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Reply #450 posted 11/19/17 8:23am

1Sasha

I am not privy to private information regarding the vault or vaults or storage areas pre-2016, but from what I have read numerous people did have access to all of them, and they - like other parts of PP - were in disrepair. I realize PP is sacred ground to many people, and that Prince did not make any mistakes according to many others, but the most precious part of PP today had to be protected. The process by which Comerica did this seems to have been handled properly in all aspects. It is just unfortunate that it had not been protected over the years.

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Reply #451 posted 11/21/17 5:23am

pps

Hi this is Dave Hampton and I have re activated my original membership since my time at Paisley. I have been trying to read and catch up on all the outlooks that people have about this situation. While I do not know everything I have experience in this area, and as someone who honors my time with Prince I feel it's necessary to speak truth to what I know from my time with him as well as the events that have happenned since his passing.

Great insights by everyone. In particular the "transparency "issue is something that is a matter of record. If the court assigns Comerica and their actions are reported to the family and thier atorneys then one would have to ask is Lawndell actually telling his clients everything, or is he telling them only what he wishes them to know. Remember that this same attorney is the former special advisor who's actions are under examination because of several accusatiotions of financial impropriaty. So we have the older siblings who possibly during his later creative life may not have had the access and connection to him, being represented and informed by a "Former Lawyer" of P's. As of my arrival in 2003 I never heard him speak of or say anything about him(lawndell) and all the lawyers that we were in contact with changed often. He didn't like lawyers or contracts.What he did with him was in the past and as we know he didn't like to spend alot of time there. He was too busy breaking new ground and making things easier for all artists in the future. Transparency is good for all involved. Possibly if Coppleman and Lawndell had been more transparent in their construction of the UMG deal they might have better optics in the court of public opinion.

Iron Mountain doesn't make a move without all pieces in place. Permission and legal authorization is at the top of the list.

The MN facilities are primarily for business documents. The LosAngeles facility is specifically for Entertainment related assetts. Furthermore the storage was the primary purpose for the move. any other work on the Vault materials has to again have the next level of outside authorization. So it is stored there because someone gave permission. It has the potential of going under further examination for any variety of procedures but that too will be authorized. The arfguments filed seem more like the attorney trying to create the shadow of impropriaty around a comerica descission because he is under review about his questionable activity during the first period of advisement following Prince's passing. If Comerica were to hit back then it would look like they were taking revenge, because they were legally attacking the same former advisor who now serves as a attorney of record. The problem is that legally Mc Millian can make moves and do what ever because of two things. 1. Prince is gone. 2. In the end the bills are paid and negotiated as reimbursement for time. The family literally has no money to pay him for services. So unless he is working for free the bills will be sent to the Estate. He has nothing to loose by filing frivolous law suits because it does not come out of his clients it comes from the families collective shared holdings. Please remember that all of the deals that he and Copplemen crafted have them attached to the deals for life by name. This means that the museum and all the deals that were "advised"on by the pair will always attach them to this estates activity.

I am not a lawyer but my observational insight from 40 years in entertainment have helped me craft my outlook on this situation. I hope you don't mind me commenting and I hope my comments get thru I am not familiar with all the ways to use this site.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Hi Lonny! I have been waiting for you to make an appearance over here.

blunt

TheEquilizer said:

FlyOnTheWall makes a valid point! Transparency and respect toward the heirs would go a long way. Sources say, Comerica represented themselves to the heirs one way to get appointed and are now doing what they want now that they are in control without consideration of the heirs and with the intent of prolonging the closing of the estate. Simply put, they should have informed the court due to the value of the contents, but they didn't according to 2 heirs, they just emptied the vault, and they intended to keep the siblings in the dark about moving the stuff which is suspect. Now they got their name all up in the news and now they want to talk restoration. How hard would it have been to document and say "Heirs we are concerned for the content of the vault and we would like to consider using Iron Mountain a facility that is used to store...... Sounds pretty simple and transparent to me. I 'm sure we would be just as upset if someone moved estate assets of ours without us having any knowledge. I'm wondering if they did it because the heirs have been vocal about considering releasing the music to the fans a la an NPG Music Club type format directly without them or the present entertainment advisors involvement? It's funny how things get when something is put in the press, now the violators want to play nice and bend the truth. I recall a similar stunt occured with Bremer when they were considering selling Prince's mothers house which Omar lives in, that is until he went to TMZ. "Oh Omar, we didn't mean it, you can stay in the house." Transparency and respect goes a long way and would have kept Comerica out of the media, they are heirs and it's quite obvious they are not being treated as such.

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Reply #452 posted 11/21/17 5:54am

pps

Hi Laura, this is Dave Hampton. The reason why I said that is because the studios are able to record music to an extent. The studios are not in shape to a level necessary for the proper handelling of the materials right now. If Prince were alive it would just be a process that would be undertaken to modify for doing this work as well as continue to support the other work. Due to the fact that he is gone every time the tapes are touched in reference to any reason special procedures must be taken because these are now "Historical Documents of Greater Significance". To open any tape and try to play it back without proper procedures Destroy's History and destroys the potential value of the assett.

You are also corrwct in asking who would pay. Well part of the reason why things have been so stretched out is because when P died the proper order of events was not followed. His estate never had a proper evaluation from Bremer and the special advisors it would seem had created specific activity to help with funding the Paisley Park opertional cost and at the same time shifting the focus. All the relatives were now on course to poissibly get paid but they had to wait to be made official by the court. Then all the potential people who claimed father ship, husbandship, and other all hadto hav etheir day i court. This BS take money and time and distracts.

Part of the reasonw why I as well as long time caretaker and facilities mgr Rick Peloquin are not around is because we know what we know and it makes many uncomfortable. Rick wasprobably there with P the most and was privey to many of P's wishes.

laurarichardson said:

udo said:

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As if buying the right oven for baking is a big deal.

They have the (original) tape machines to play the tapes.

They can digitise materials.

What is missing?

Personnel?

The original machince can not transfer the tapes to a digital format or restore them. Why would personal come to Minneapolis to work on them. Who would pay their room, board and salaries?

Once again we have no way of knowing if an insurance company would even allow the items to stay in Paisley Park. Do not be fooled this is LM using the older sibs to get his foot back in the door.

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Reply #453 posted 11/21/17 7:17am

Mumio

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pps said:

Hi Laura, this is Dave Hampton. The reason why I said that is because the studios are able to record music to an extent. The studios are not in shape to a level necessary for the proper handelling of the materials right now. If Prince were alive it would just be a process that would be undertaken to modify for doing this work as well as continue to support the other work. Due to the fact that he is gone every time the tapes are touched in reference to any reason special procedures must be taken because these are now "Historical Documents of Greater Significance". To open any tape and try to play it back without proper procedures Destroy's History and destroys the potential value of the assett.

You are also corrwct in asking who would pay. Well part of the reason why things have been so stretched out is because when P died the proper order of events was not followed. His estate never had a proper evaluation from Bremer and the special advisors it would seem had created specific activity to help with funding the Paisley Park opertional cost and at the same time shifting the focus. All the relatives were now on course to poissibly get paid but they had to wait to be made official by the court. Then all the potential people who claimed father ship, husbandship, and other all hadto hav etheir day i court. This BS take money and time and distracts.

Part of the reasonw why I as well as long time caretaker and facilities mgr Rick Peloquin are not around is because we know what we know and it makes many uncomfortable. Rick wasprobably there with P the most and was privey to many of P's wishes.



Hello Dave. Thanks for adding some further clarity about the vault. But why wouldn't input from the both of you be welcomed? That seems like it's not the smartest move/best interests of the estate given the knowledge you both would have.



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Reply #454 posted 11/21/17 7:38am

laurarichardso
n

Thank you for your response. Has either you or Rick tried to reach out to Comerica as they seem to be on the ball and headed in the right direction.

pps said:

Hi Laura, this is Dave Hampton. The reason why I said that is because the studios are able to record music to an extent. The studios are not in shape to a level necessary for the proper handelling of the materials right now. If Prince were alive it would just be a process that would be undertaken to modify for doing this work as well as continue to support the other work. Due to the fact that he is gone every time the tapes are touched in reference to any reason special procedures must be taken because these are now "Historical Documents of Greater Significance". To open any tape and try to play it back without proper procedures Destroy's History and destroys the potential value of the assett.

You are also corrwct in asking who would pay. Well part of the reason why things have been so stretched out is because when P died the proper order of events was not followed. His estate never had a proper evaluation from Bremer and the special advisors it would seem had created specific activity to help with funding the Paisley Park opertional cost and at the same time shifting the focus. All the relatives were now on course to poissibly get paid but they had to wait to be made official by the court. Then all the potential people who claimed father ship, husbandship, and other all hadto hav etheir day i court. This BS take money and time and distracts.

Part of the reasonw why I as well as long time caretaker and facilities mgr Rick Peloquin are not around is because we know what we know and it makes many uncomfortable. Rick wasprobably there with P the most and was privey to many of P's wishes.

laurarichardson said:

The original machince can not transfer the tapes to a digital format or restore them. Why would personal come to Minneapolis to work on them. Who would pay their room, board and salaries?

Once again we have no way of knowing if an insurance company would even allow the items to stay in Paisley Park. Do not be fooled this is LM using the older sibs to get his foot back in the door.

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Reply #455 posted 11/21/17 7:47am

laurarichardso
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Neversin said:

laurarichardson said:

And physical access was strict when he was alive because he was the only one who knew the combo.


Bullshit...
Prince sent numerous members of his staff and band members in there to get him stuff...
The vault combination was known to at least 6 engineers who worked for him on and off in the last 25 years...
When the vault was in full lockdown he had one of his minions get the keys from his office and gave them the combination when he needed something from in there...
Plus nobody said the entire vault and it's contents were moldy or damaged so stop clinging to shit nobody said to validate your assumptions and half baked theories based on 20% of "facts" in documents and hearsay...

Neversin.

Actually Mr. Bullshit I never believed all of the vault was moldy because I took the time to read the actual court docs and I do not get all my info from some news blog. I believe Comerica used some instances of damages as an example of why things were moved.

I do not believe everything in the vault was ruined or they would not have bothered to move all of it. (Duh)

We know there was flooding so that is not news and it is possible the climate controls were broken after all Prince said he was not going to do anythng with the Vault and someone else would take care of it. Once again his call not ours.

Sorry but it was said by people who worked there that he had the combo and of course he would let in people who worked for him. ( Duh!!) How would they know that he had his own catalogue system in his head if they were never in the vault with him or that he had sent them in to get stuff. It does not mean the door were wide open and guess what combo's can be changed.

At the end of the day it was his music to do as he pleased not yours and not mine. You sound like another delusional bitter ex-employee or associate who thinks that owned something or ran something when you were an employee getting a check. End of story.

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Reply #456 posted 11/21/17 7:51am

laurarichardso
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TheEquilizer said:

laurarichardson said:

Go sit down somewhere or take the time to read the docs. We are not going to get anything until everything has been catalogued and cleaned up. Even then you need to find a means for distrubing it. Also try reading the attached article about the problems the MJ estate is having with the IRS. Comerica explains that they are watching this carefully to avoid the same hugh tax bill that the MJ estate may be dealing with.

These people are accountants and business people they are not morons and they are actually working on a flat fee so they are not making a fortune.

Go sit down somewhere, LR, is that a nice thing to say? I'm simply stating in agreement with UDO that the music should be available to the fans? 10 months in and all we get is the Purple Rain Deluxe? We all know that there is content ready to go right now. Oh well, no new NPG Music Club for now. "We now return to the regular scheduled program, hold on to your wigs!"

It will be out for fans once it has been orgainized and cleaned up. I know Lonnie you and SNJ are licking your chops for money but dumping this stuff on some streaming site in an unorganized and cheap fashion is not going to happen.

Why do you think Iron Mountain was brough in for grins and giggles? Let me know when Lonnie and SNJ can show their background in estate management and tax law.

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Reply #457 posted 11/21/17 8:38am

1Sasha

I am so grateful for Dave's comments. He is one person whose expertise in these matters I would trust. Thank you, Dave.

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Reply #458 posted 11/21/17 8:58am

2freaky4church
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Still nothing in the pipeline. Sad.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #459 posted 11/21/17 10:30am

rogifan

Can I just say thank you to Dave Hampton for your insights. I wish you were an advisor to the Estate. They need people with your knowledge involved this process. I shudder to think who they will engage once they get to a point of wanting to release vault material. smh
Paisley Park is in your heart
#PrinceForever 💜
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Reply #460 posted 11/21/17 11:17am

Germanegro

2freaky4church1 said:

Still nothing in the pipeline. Sad.

It will be a while. Not sad--that's just life. Sit and wait and find some other music to help make yourself happy by, I'd suggest, and/or do your own, 'cause life is short. And bring popcorn to help satisfy your hunger as we follow the convo in this place!

popcorn beer

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Reply #461 posted 11/21/17 11:37am

Germanegro

pps said:

Hi this is Dave Hampton and I have re activated my original membership since my time at Paisley. I have been trying to read and catch up on all the outlooks that people have about this situation. While I do not know everything I have experience in this area, and as someone who honors my time with Prince I feel it's necessary to speak truth to what I know from my time with him as well as the events that have happenned since his passing.

Thank you Mr. Hampton for chiming in for all of our sakes, to better our understanding of circumstances at PP and the Vault, and offering us your perspective toward the unfolding events. I hope that at some point your expertise may be utilized by the estate and/or heirs of Prince in the technical management processes of the historic recorded material. Like you say, you possess valuable practical experience and knowledge, and share history with the PP site and its founder.

stirthepot

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Reply #462 posted 11/21/17 1:52pm

dg42819

Kobe said:

Prince's heart was ripped out from Paisley Park... now the building is just nothing that is waiting to be demolished. After all there are no rules at Paisley Park.



Yes I agree. Prince's heart was ripped out from Paisley Park! They need to bring everything back to. This was his whole life. I hope they respect him and bring it all back.
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Reply #463 posted 11/21/17 4:15pm

bonatoc

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dg42819 said:

Kobe said:

Prince's heart was ripped out from Paisley Park... now the building is just nothing that is waiting to be demolished. After all there are no rules at Paisley Park.

Yes I agree. Prince's heart was ripped out from Paisley Park! They need to bring everything back to. This was his whole life. I hope they respect him and bring it all back.


Oh my. Here come the zealots.


The Colors R brighter, the Bond is much tighter
No Child's a failure
Until the Blue Sailboat sails him away from his dreams
Don't Ever Lose, Don't Ever Lose
Don't Ever Lose Your Dreams
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Reply #464 posted 11/21/17 8:00pm

Mumio

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bonatoc said:

dg42819 said:

Kobe said: Yes I agree. Prince's heart was ripped out from Paisley Park! They need to bring everything back to. This was his whole life. I hope they respect him and bring it all back.


Oh my. Here come the zealots.



lol

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Reply #465 posted 11/21/17 9:14pm

ISaidLifeIsJus
tAGame

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Thanks for your insight Dave!

pps said:

Hi this is Dave Hampton and I have re activated my original membership since my time at Paisley. I have been trying to read and catch up on all the outlooks that people have about this situation. While I do not know everything I have experience in this area, and as someone who honors my time with Prince I feel it's necessary to speak truth to what I know from my time with him as well as the events that have happenned since his passing.

Great insights by everyone. In particular the "transparency "issue is something that is a matter of record. If the court assigns Comerica and their actions are reported to the family and thier atorneys then one would have to ask is Lawndell actually telling his clients everything, or is he telling them only what he wishes them to know. Remember that this same attorney is the former special advisor who's actions are under examination because of several accusatiotions of financial impropriaty. So we have the older siblings who possibly during his later creative life may not have had the access and connection to him, being represented and informed by a "Former Lawyer" of P's. As of my arrival in 2003 I never heard him speak of or say anything about him(lawndell) and all the lawyers that we were in contact with changed often. He didn't like lawyers or contracts.What he did with him was in the past and as we know he didn't like to spend alot of time there. He was too busy breaking new ground and making things easier for all artists in the future. Transparency is good for all involved. Possibly if Coppleman and Lawndell had been more transparent in their construction of the UMG deal they might have better optics in the court of public opinion.

Iron Mountain doesn't make a move without all pieces in place. Permission and legal authorization is at the top of the list.

The MN facilities are primarily for business documents. The LosAngeles facility is specifically for Entertainment related assetts. Furthermore the storage was the primary purpose for the move. any other work on the Vault materials has to again have the next level of outside authorization. So it is stored there because someone gave permission. It has the potential of going under further examination for any variety of procedures but that too will be authorized. The arfguments filed seem more like the attorney trying to create the shadow of impropriaty around a comerica descission because he is under review about his questionable activity during the first period of advisement following Prince's passing. If Comerica were to hit back then it would look like they were taking revenge, because they were legally attacking the same former advisor who now serves as a attorney of record. The problem is that legally Mc Millian can make moves and do what ever because of two things. 1. Prince is gone. 2. In the end the bills are paid and negotiated as reimbursement for time. The family literally has no money to pay him for services. So unless he is working for free the bills will be sent to the Estate. He has nothing to loose by filing frivolous law suits because it does not come out of his clients it comes from the families collective shared holdings. Please remember that all of the deals that he and Copplemen crafted have them attached to the deals for life by name. This means that the museum and all the deals that were "advised"on by the pair will always attach them to this estates activity.

I am not a lawyer but my observational insight from 40 years in entertainment have helped me craft my outlook on this situation. I hope you don't mind me commenting and I hope my comments get thru I am not familiar with all the ways to use this site.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Hi Lonny! I have been waiting for you to make an appearance over here.

blunt

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Reply #466 posted 11/21/17 10:21pm

udo

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dg42819 said:

Yes I agree. Prince's heart was ripped out from Paisley Park!

.

If you sonsider those tapes to be PP's heart then the heart was not properly cared for.

It needs some surgery and perhaps a pacemaker to sustain it's task for a while longer.

The mess needs to be cleaned up, order needs to be restored.

Susan did some work in this area when she was involved, but who relaly started neglecting this part of the job?

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #467 posted 11/21/17 10:58pm

FlyOnTheWall

pps said:

Hi this is Dave Hampton and I have re activated my original membership since my time at Paisley. I have been trying to read and catch up on all the outlooks that people have about this situation. While I do not know everything I have experience in this area, and as someone who honors my time with Prince I feel it's necessary to speak truth to what I know from my time with him as well as the events that have happenned since his passing.

Great insights by everyone. In particular the "transparency "issue is something that is a matter of record. If the court assigns Comerica and their actions are reported to the family and thier atorneys then one would have to ask is Lawndell actually telling his clients everything, or is he telling them only what he wishes them to know. Remember that this same attorney is the former special advisor who's actions are under examination because of several accusatiotions of financial impropriaty. So we have the older siblings who possibly during his later creative life may not have had the access and connection to him, being represented and informed by a "Former Lawyer" of P's. As of my arrival in 2003 I never heard him speak of or say anything about him(lawndell) and all the lawyers that we were in contact with changed often. He didn't like lawyers or contracts.What he did with him was in the past and as we know he didn't like to spend alot of time there. He was too busy breaking new ground and making things easier for all artists in the future. Transparency is good for all involved. Possibly if Coppleman and Lawndell had been more transparent in their construction of the UMG deal they might have better optics in the court of public opinion.

Iron Mountain doesn't make a move without all pieces in place. Permission and legal authorization is at the top of the list.

The MN facilities are primarily for business documents. The LosAngeles facility is specifically for Entertainment related assetts. Furthermore the storage was the primary purpose for the move. any other work on the Vault materials has to again have the next level of outside authorization. So it is stored there because someone gave permission. It has the potential of going under further examination for any variety of procedures but that too will be authorized. The arfguments filed seem more like the attorney trying to create the shadow of impropriaty around a comerica descission because he is under review about his questionable activity during the first period of advisement following Prince's passing. If Comerica were to hit back then it would look like they were taking revenge, because they were legally attacking the same former advisor who now serves as a attorney of record. The problem is that legally Mc Millian can make moves and do what ever because of two things. 1. Prince is gone. 2. In the end the bills are paid and negotiated as reimbursement for time. The family literally has no money to pay him for services. So unless he is working for free the bills will be sent to the Estate. He has nothing to loose by filing frivolous law suits because it does not come out of his clients it comes from the families collective shared holdings. Please remember that all of the deals that he and Copplemen crafted have them attached to the deals for life by name. This means that the museum and all the deals that were "advised"on by the pair will always attach them to this estates activity.

I am not a lawyer but my observational insight from 40 years in entertainment have helped me craft my outlook on this situation. I hope you don't mind me commenting and I hope my comments get thru I am not familiar with all the ways to use this site.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Hi Lonny! I have been waiting for you to make an appearance over here.

blunt

Hi, Mr. Hampton. Thank you for sharing your firsthand knowledge of Prince, Paisley Park, and his Vault. Based on your observations, approximately what percentage of the master tapes stored in the Vault would you say was compromised? I know you can't say with absolute certainty, but could you give us a rough estimate based on circumstances at the time of your last stint at Paisley? Thanks in advance for any insight you can give in this regard.

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Reply #468 posted 11/22/17 6:43am

pps

Mumio said:

pps said:

Hi Laura, this is Dave Hampton. The reason why I said that is because the studios are able to record music to an extent. The studios are not in shape to a level necessary for the proper handelling of the materials right now. If Prince were alive it would just be a process that would be undertaken to modify for doing this work as well as continue to support the other work. Due to the fact that he is gone every time the tapes are touched in reference to any reason special procedures must be taken because these are now "Historical Documents of Greater Significance". To open any tape and try to play it back without proper procedures Destroy's History and destroys the potential value of the assett.

You are also corrwct in asking who would pay. Well part of the reason why things have been so stretched out is because when P died the proper order of events was not followed. His estate never had a proper evaluation from Bremer and the special advisors it would seem had created specific activity to help with funding the Paisley Park opertional cost and at the same time shifting the focus. All the relatives were now on course to poissibly get paid but they had to wait to be made official by the court. Then all the potential people who claimed father ship, husbandship, and other all hadto hav etheir day i court. This BS take money and time and distracts.

Part of the reasonw why I as well as long time caretaker and facilities mgr Rick Peloquin are not around is because we know what we know and it makes many uncomfortable. Rick wasprobably there with P the most and was privey to many of P's wishes.



Hello Dave. Thanks for adding some further clarity about the vault. But why wouldn't input from the both of you be welcomed? That seems like it's not the smartest move/best interests of the estate given the knowledge you both would have.

Great question. Well it's not up to us to seek them out it's up to them(originally Bremmer, and now Comerica) to gather the correct information and reach to us. In life that's how many of us came to the situation ....Prince called us. If it were truly important to them then they would do it.

If these factions as well as the family value truth then I as well as others will be close and gladly talk. Please rememeber that we are aware of truths that they have not or do not know so it is to the benifit of the story that they are trying to tell to keep us far from the situation. When I got to Paisley Park in 2003 the studio was down to one room (studio B) with one two inch machine with 14 of the 24 channels working and an intermittent console. Imaging how Rick and I feel walking thru a building that we brought back on line and working and having others tell us half truths and stories about it's operation and evvoloution. In the end it's not about me and Rick it's about what do all of us do now to preserve the truth.Well my energy gooes into PRN Alumni Foundation and talking to and with fans about Prince and Paisley Park Studios.

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Reply #469 posted 11/22/17 6:58am

pps

Mumio said:



Hmmmm, seems to me that if any of the heirs have legitimate concerns over what Comerica is doing and if they are "playing" by the rules, they need to address that with the judge presiding over the case, Judge Eide, at the Carver County District Court, since he is the one watching over the estate proceedings, right? He's the decider lol . They shouldn't be running to the court of public opinion though, as this last incident has shown that was a bad decision and upset fans needlessly. Who could be advising that course of action though and why would they do that given there is legal recourse to resolve their concerns? The fans can't fix anything for them.



[Edited 10/14/17 6:15am]

Great observation! LM is totally playing th court of public opinion. In the end his legal status is and will always be overshadowed by his quest for financial involvement at any cost with the estate of prince. "Family" = all of the siblings tha the court has ruled are heirs. If he were truly about upjholding the "law" then LM would drop the divide and conquer strategy he has in keeping the family members seperated and bring them together for closure.

Fans trust is eroded every time the now divided house of Prince attempts to do something. I recently saw a FB post of someone telling about attending the O2 exihibition and touching the garments on display. Lot's of loose ends and the Judge should be the final word much of this.

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Reply #470 posted 11/24/17 12:28am

TheVaultKeeper

dg42819 said:

Kobe said:

Prince's heart was ripped out from Paisley Park... now the building is just nothing that is waiting to be demolished. After all there are no rules at Paisley Park.

Yes I agree. Prince's heart was ripped out from Paisley Park! They need to bring everything back to. This was his whole life. I hope they respect him and bring it all back.

Sorry, but Prince was letting his so-called heart rot and decay for years at Paisley Park, and if it's brought back, it will just continue to rot and decay further! Since it was his whole life, as you say, why would you not want it to be properly protected? Personally, I think his audio and video assets being moved to Iron Mountain and stored under climate-controlled conditions coupled with the fact that the assets that were identified as having degraded or suffered mold and water damage have been segregated from the other assets in order to protect the integrity of the remaining assets in the archive is the best news I've heard since his death.

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Reply #471 posted 11/24/17 5:58am

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OK, so what about NORAD?
That shit must be quakeproof.


The Colors R brighter, the Bond is much tighter
No Child's a failure
Until the Blue Sailboat sails him away from his dreams
Don't Ever Lose, Don't Ever Lose
Don't Ever Lose Your Dreams
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Reply #472 posted 11/24/17 7:23am

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laurarichardson said:

Neversin said:


Bullshit...
Prince sent numerous members of his staff and band members in there to get him stuff...
The vault combination was known to at least 6 engineers who worked for him on and off in the last 25 years...
When the vault was in full lockdown he had one of his minions get the keys from his office and gave them the combination when he needed something from in there...
Plus nobody said the entire vault and it's contents were moldy or damaged so stop clinging to shit nobody said to validate your assumptions and half baked theories based on 20% of "facts" in documents and hearsay...

Neversin.

Actually Mr. Bullshit I never believed all of the vault was moldy because I took the time to read the actual court docs and I do not get all my info from some news blog. I believe Comerica used some instances of damages as an example of why things were moved.

I do not believe everything in the vault was ruined or they would not have bothered to move all of it. (Duh)

We know there was flooding so that is not news and it is possible the climate controls were broken after all Prince said he was not going to do anythng with the Vault and someone else would take care of it. Once again his call not ours.

Sorry but it was said by people who worked there that he had the combo and of course he would let in people who worked for him. ( Duh!!) How would they know that he had his own catalogue system in his head if they were never in the vault with him or that he had sent them in to get stuff. It does not mean the door were wide open and guess what combo's can be changed.

At the end of the day it was his music to do as he pleased not yours and not mine. You sound like another delusional bitter ex-employee or associate who thinks that owned something or ran something when you were an employee getting a check. End of story.


Nice backpedalling and twisting of words...
You know full well you were linking unrelated "facts" to create and validate your bullshit theories...

And for the rest of your incoherent ramblings above; you need to get yourself checked because the foam out your mouth in penetrating you empty skull...
As for who you think I am doesn't matter, in the end all that matters is that I was there for a moment and you were not... I'm not bitter nor am I someone who thinks he's owed something, I just state facts and don't make them up like you do...

Neversin.

O(+>NIИ<+)O

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Reply #473 posted 11/25/17 8:07pm

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I am so grateful for Dave's comments. He is one person whose expertise in these matters I would trust. Thank you, Dave.

Me too.

Dave, I heard from someone I know in the industry who knew someone who worked as an engineer at Paisley Park in the early 2000s that the multitracks for Prince's albums up to that point had been digitally transferred. Was this definitely done?

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Reply #474 posted 11/26/17 5:17am

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It is comforting that gems like the recently leaked IWD4U (82-2-15) are safe(r) now, but details about the processes amd steps towards a release of anything from the vault would be welcome.

I.e.: when will we see them bills from IMEwhatever for restauration processings?

When will we get details on how many hours -per category of live recording, studio work, etc- are salvaged, digitized, etc?

When will we know what the idea of the (big) label is towards releasing this material?

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #475 posted 11/26/17 6:55pm

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Comerica May have blown the damage to the vault out of promotion

https://m.youtube.com/wat...6GrpNvWQt0
This is from the YouTube Channel Prince’s Friend. Check out at 5:30 point 12 if Iron Moutain’s deposition which discuss the security of the vault and the only damaged items appearing to the items in the office.

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Reply #476 posted 11/26/17 8:05pm

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laurarichardson said:

Comerica May have blown the damage to the vault out of promotion


https://m.youtube.com/wat...6GrpNvWQt0
This is from the YouTube Channel Prince’s Friend. Check out at 5:30 point 12 if Iron Moutain’s deposition which discuss the security of the vault and the only damaged items appearing to the items in the office.



He just posted this as a follow up though:

https://m.youtube.com/wat...vDApO664lM
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Reply #477 posted 11/26/17 9:08pm

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anangellooksdown said:

laurarichardson said:

Comerica May have blown the damage to the vault out of promotion

https://m.youtube.com/wat...6GrpNvWQt0
This is from the YouTube Channel Prince’s Friend. Check out at 5:30 point 12 if Iron Moutain’s deposition which discuss the security of the vault and the only damaged items appearing to the items in the office.

He just posted this as a follow up though: https://m.youtube.com/wat...vDApO664lM

Does anyone know who this person is?

He makes a video to cause the masses to become hysterical and then issues a retraction?

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Reply #478 posted 11/26/17 10:48pm

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

anangellooksdown said:

laurarichardson said: He just posted this as a follow up though: https://m.youtube.com/wat...vDApO664lM

Does anyone know who this person is?

He makes a video to cause the masses to become hysterical and then issues a retraction?



Is that Youtube channel monetized? Because if it is, then that's your answer. I'm not impressed.

Welcome to "the org", Mumio…they can have you, but I'll have your love in the end nod
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Reply #479 posted 11/27/17 3:24am

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Mumio said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Does anyone know who this person is?

He makes a video to cause the masses to become hysterical and then issues a retraction?



Is that Youtube channel monetized? Because if it is, then that's your answer. I'm not impressed.

This guy is reading docs without fact checking. He means well but he is dangerious. By his own admission "he didn't read it corrrectly". He has limited knowledge and has never been there so when he says that Comerica is lying he is also calling all of us engineers a lie as well when it comes to the conditions of the Vault. The fact is the tapes are at Iron Mountain and to continue to slander them should be something that stops. now he is taking Sharon's statements ands trying to blame Comerica for the failed UMG deal. The failure lies on the special advisors and Bremer. The problem is that Sharon and her legal advisors have to take a stance so they attack, attack, and attack all who are "presently", responsible instead of making the original people who fucked up accountable. They almost have to do that since one of Sharons advisors was one of the same advisors who originally was involved in the messed up the UMG deal. It's all legal posturing. In the end advisors and lawsuits will cheat the family out of precious time and whatever money that's left. If Comerica stopped tomorrow and it was all turned over to the family would they have a plan? would they be able to work together? We don't know. With each day time moves on and so does a large amoiunt of Princes unhandelled business. Please call people on their Bullshit do not let the validation of unsound theories keep going on. It's waisted air.

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