Reply #30 posted 10/05/17 8:19am
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Nicole Nodland "if you can't clap on the one, then don't clap at all" |
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Reply #31 posted 10/05/17 8:28am
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"if you can't clap on the one, then don't clap at all" |
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Reply #32 posted 10/05/17 8:59am
poppys |
This is pretty literal.
[Edited 10/5/17 9:18am] "if you can't clap on the one, then don't clap at all" |
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Reply #34 posted 10/05/17 4:20pm
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poppys said:
Nicole Nodland
Il Capitano did not have a consistent dress code, but he did have a consistent costume theme. He wore the current soldiers' outfit from a foreign country. Sometimes his clothes were slashed to show that he had been in battle. His hat was overdone and typically had large feathers sticking out of it. Ribbons and shiny buttons often cluttered his clothes. He always carried a sword, and in the seventeenth century the sword upgraded to a gun. Every Il Capitano costume also included a coat or cloak, that he could fling off in a moment of rage or passion. https://en.wikipedia.org/...ell%27arte
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Reply #35 posted 10/05/17 4:23pm
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purplefam99 said:
great great thread CherryMoon57!!!!
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Reply #36 posted 10/05/17 4:39pm
poppys |
Chaplin worked that hat too. Archetypes.
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Reply #37 posted 10/05/17 4:49pm
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jaawwnn said:
There was a lot of good theatrical clothing in 80's pop wasn't there? Prince really blended a lot of stuff to make it his own. I often wonder if he was just winging it or if he had a grand plan for each look.
I am wondering too. His outfits continued to match more comedia del arte characters description beyond the eighties though. Perhaps these personas just naturally came to him... Life Matters |
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Reply #38 posted 10/05/17 4:58pm
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One of the most interesting threads I have seen on the org. Thank you💜 |
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Reply #39 posted 10/05/17 5:03pm
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You're welcome Stella, glad you appreciate it! Life Matters |
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Reply #40 posted 10/05/17 5:20pm
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Adam Ant is more of a classic 'Il Capitano'
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Reply #41 posted 10/05/17 5:24pm
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CherryMoon57 said:
Adam Ant is more of a classic 'Il Capitano'
So pretty! "if you can't clap on the one, then don't clap at all" |
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Reply #42 posted 10/05/17 5:41pm
OldFriends4Sal e |
love this thread CherryMoon
I talked about this some years ago the Pierrot the Pirate the Buccaneer
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Reply #43 posted 10/05/17 5:42pm
OldFriends4Sal e |
not a regular circus clown but the Pierrot
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Reply #45 posted 10/05/17 6:07pm
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poppys said:
Chaplin worked that hat too. Archetypes.
Great thread! If I'm not mistaken, Cat Glover said that she gifted Prince this "captain's" hat or one like it. [Edited 10/5/17 18:08pm] |
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Reply #46 posted 10/05/17 6:09pm
OldFriends4Sal e |
Can you explain? I've been 'studying' this outfit for a few weeks now
poppys said:
This is pretty literal.
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Reply #48 posted 10/05/17 6:19pm
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purplethunder3121 said:
CherryMoon57 said:
Glad you're enjoying this thread Charlie Chaplin apparently learned his comedy style and technique from the British Harlequinade (a modern version of the Comedia Del Arte) and later weaved the Harlequin 'Lazzi' comedic routines into the Pierrot character to create his very own tragicomedy style...
I had read somewhere about Prince being influenced by Charlie Chaplin (lots of performers were) so this makes sense. A really interesting and different topic. I wonder if Prince had any influence from David Bowie (who studied mime, etc.). I think there might have been threads on that in the past. Thanks to CatB for pointing out the Adam Ant connections...
Yes, even Miles Davis commented that Prince was channelling Charlie Chaplin during Under the Cherry Moon
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Reply #50 posted 10/05/17 7:28pm
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Reply #51 posted 10/05/17 7:37pm
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OldFriends4Sale said:
Can you explain? I've been 'studying' this outfit for a few weeks now
poppys said:
This is pretty literal.
I see this look as it pertains to this thread as clown/jester/troubadour persona. Has all the elements. Looks like the juggler, aka the magus or the magician in the tarot deck - one who manipulates energy.
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Reply #52 posted 10/05/17 7:47pm
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This one reminds me of a Moko Jumbie - Afro-Caribbean trickster spirit. Playful and serious at the same time. Moko Jumbie artists perform on stilts with an edgy/clown vibe.
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Reply #53 posted 10/05/17 7:59pm
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FlyOnTheWall said:
poppys said:
Chaplin worked that hat too. Archetypes.
Great thread! If I'm not mistaken, Cat Glover said that she gifted Prince this "captain's" hat or one like it.
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Reply #54 posted 10/05/17 8:23pm
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FlyOnTheWall said:
poppys said:
Chaplin worked that hat too. Archetypes.
Great thread! If I'm not mistaken, Cat Glover said that she gifted Prince this "captain's" hat or one like it.
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Reply #55 posted 10/05/17 9:38pm
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Best thread it keeps Getting better!!! Love that pic of P and cat!! |
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Reply #56 posted 10/06/17 1:56am
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CherryMoon57 said:
Adam Ant is more of a classic 'Il Capitano'
The picture you posted was his Dandy Highwayman persona. His Prince Charming image was modeled after the commedia dell'arte. His words.
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Reply #57 posted 10/06/17 1:58am
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OldFriends4Sale said:
not a regular circus clown but the Pierrot
I was actually going to post this next This is one of the three main types of clowns, the whiteface (the other ones being the Auguste and the Tramp). The whiteface clown's origins can be traced back to Greek theatre but the first character that started whitening his face with flour was the Pierrot of the Comedia del arte, which the whiteface clown is said to have originated from. In France we simply call it 'le clown blanc' (the white clown).
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Reply #58 posted 10/06/17 2:06am
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OldFriends4Sale said:
purplethunder3121 said:
I had read somewhere about Prince being influenced by Charlie Chaplin (lots of performers were) so this makes sense. A really interesting and different topic. I wonder if Prince had any influence from David Bowie (who studied mime, etc.). I think there might have been threads on that in the past. Thanks to CatB for pointing out the Adam Ant connections...
Yes, even Miles Davis commented that Prince was channelling Charlie Chaplin during Under the Cherry Moon
^This is an interesting picture as it shows how Prince's onstage persona, just like Chaplin's, incorporated all three types of clowns: the Auguste, the Whiteface (stemmed from the Pierrot/Harlequin duo) as well as the Tramp (a US creation).
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Reply #59 posted 10/06/17 2:08am
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Prince as a Tramp in 'The One' video.
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