Does anyone have the list for the orignal configuration for the TGE? I heard Acknowledge Me and Days of Wild were supposed to be on it.

Was Love Sign ever intended for TGE?

Thanks

hhhhdmt said:

databank said:

hhhhdmt said:

Does anyone have the list for the orignal configuration for the TGE? I heard Acknowledge Me and Days of Wild were supposed to be on it.

Was Love Sign ever intended for TGE?

Thanks

http://princevault.com/in...Experience

thanks alot

Personally, i would go with the following

1. Endorphinmachine (the Dawn version, without the cowbells)

2. Days of Wild

3. Dolphin

4. 319

5. The Most Beautiful Girl in the World

6. Chaos and Disorder

7. Interactive

8. Shy

9. Eye Hate You

10. Gold

I think that would be a spectacular record. Plenty of raw and heavy rock, some funky stuff, good ballads, the whole mix.

I know "Zanalee" wasn't intended for this project but such a cool blues rocker would fit in there as well.

dance4me3121 said:

databank said:

• March 1994, configuration

1. NPG Operator
2. Interactive (shorter version)
3. NPG Operator
4. Days Of Wild
5. NPG Operator
6. The Most Beautiful Girl In The World
7. NPG Operator
8. Now
9. Acknowledge Me
10. Ripopgodazippa
11. NPG Operator
12. 319
13. NPG Operator
14. Shy
15. Billy Jack Bitch
16. Hate U
17. NPG Operator
18. Gold

This March 1994 configuration is the one I like best.I love the songs "Days Of Wild" and "Ripopgodazippa" and I was mad when Prince removed those songs from the final tracklist

SoulAlive said:

iveivan said:

SoulAlive said:

• March 1994, configuration

1. NPG Operator
2. Interactive (shorter version)
3. NPG Operator
4. Days Of Wild
5. NPG Operator
6. The Most Beautiful Girl In The World
7. NPG Operator
8. Now
9. Acknowledge Me
10. Ripopgodazippa
11. NPG Operator
12. 319
13. NPG Operator
14. Shy
15. Billy Jack Bitch
16. Hate U
17. NPG Operator
18. Gold

This March 1994 configuration is the one I like best.I love the songs "Days Of Wild" and "Ripopgodazippa" and I was mad when Prince removed those songs from the final tracklist

Can’t believe We March and Pussy Control were added

yeah,those songs really aren't that great."P Control",in particular,is a really annoying song imo.

SoulAlive said:

yeah,I hate that he removed "Days Of Wild" from the album! I think that's one of his most convincing hip-hop tracks.

"Hide The Bone" would have been a perfect opening track! much much better than "P Control"

SoulAlive said:

dance4me3121 said:

databank said:

http://princevault.com/index.php?title=Album:_Crystal_Ball

It doesn't say anything about the longer version.Thanks for the link though.It was cool reading about how Prince held back the revolution tracks and I'm glad I didn't order my copy of crystal ball online.i actually found a copy at my local record store when it was released.

I'm a little confused by your reply. If u have CB then u have the longer version of Interactive.

SoulAlive said:

iveivan said:

SoulAlive said: Can’t believe We March and Pussy Control were added

yeah,those songs really aren't that great."P Control",in particular,is a really annoying song imo.

P Control really is one of the strongest, most original songs of that era. I think it's highly misunderstood because it's too weird, but Prince recognized its strengh to the point that he gave-up on the Interactive opener, which fit the whole TGE concept, to make P Control the new opener.

SoulAlive said:

• March 1994, configuration

1. NPG Operator
2. Interactive (shorter version)
3. NPG Operator
4. Days Of Wild
5. NPG Operator
6. The Most Beautiful Girl In The World
7. NPG Operator
8. Now
9. Acknowledge Me
10. Ripopgodazippa
11. NPG Operator
12. 319
13. NPG Operator
14. Shy
15. Billy Jack Bitch
16. Hate U
17. NPG Operator
18. Gold

This March 1994 configuration is the one I like best.I love the songs "Days Of Wild" and "Ripopgodazippa" and I was mad when Prince removed those songs from the final tracklist

Wow, that would probably have been my favourtite Prince album. Very glad he put those songs on Crystal Ball.

SoulAlive said:

• March 1994, configuration

1. NPG Operator
2. Interactive (shorter version)
3. NPG Operator
4. Days Of Wild
5. NPG Operator
6. The Most Beautiful Girl In The World
7. NPG Operator
8. Now
9. Acknowledge Me
10. Ripopgodazippa
11. NPG Operator
12. 319
13. NPG Operator
14. Shy
15. Billy Jack Bitch
16. Hate U
17. NPG Operator
18. Gold

This March 1994 configuration is the one I like best.I love the songs "Days Of Wild" and "Ripopgodazippa" and I was mad when Prince removed those songs from the final tracklist

I agree that it was a strong album and that getting rid of Ripop and DOW (as well as Acknowledge Me and Interactive) was heartbreaking. It's actually easy to reconstruct that original configuration given that we have all the tracks: I have and it flows well.

I'd have a hard time deciding which is best, though. That original config was more RéB while there's more "power rock" in the final one. The whole of the material was so strong that it's hard to decide what to sacrifice: Endorphinmachine, Dolphin, P Control and Shhh were very strong cuts as well. It would also have made sense to have Love Sign on it, and Hide The Bone is an incredibly funky number. On the other hand I guess most Prince albums could have been double CD's if you added the strongest outtakes to the set. The only painful thing there is that we knew all the tracks before the album's release, so we all had our wishlist of favorite tracks.

coldasice said:

SoulAlive said:

yeah,I hate that he removed "Days Of Wild" from the album! I think that's one of his most convincing hip-hop tracks.

The studio version is flat and lacking though. It never had the effect it had live. I think he tinkered with overdubs on it many times & finally just released that single at Xenophobia as the official version in 02. I personally like the Beautiful Experience version with the guitar track overdubbed on a live version.

It was released on CB first.

DOW suffered the exact same fate as Xenophobia (the track), actually: Prince felt that the original studio version lacked energy and felt dramatically bland by comparison to what he'd done to the track on stage, so he finally decided to release a live version of it instead.

Multiple versions of the track were made available thru one channel or another thru the years:

- The original studio cut on the 1994 studio promo tape

- The original live performance on the 1994 live promo tape, and a remix of it on the TBE promo film

- The 1995 rerecording (actually a new studio cut rather than a live performance) on the L4OA promo film, and that one is really funky, it would have worked on the album IMHO

- The 1996 live performance on CB

- 3 different mixes/edits of the 2002 version on the 2 DOW singles

- The Days Of Wild & loose reherasal version, in 2012 or 2013 (I'd have to check)

I may be forgetting one or 2 others?

In terms of bootlegs, the 1994 Stars & Bars Monte Carlo/Monaco rendition was remarkable. I wish a soundboard of this would exist

databank said:

databank said:

Marco81 said:

databank said:

The 1995 rerecording (actually a new studio cut rather than a live performance) on the L4OA promo film, and that one is really funky, it would have worked on the album IMHO

Wrong, that's another live take (5 august 1995 show at Paisley Park) edited down in the studio for length. Check the bootleg The Park Voll 1. [Edited 9/25/17 0:38am]

Good job, thx for the correction! According to Pvault the video is not from that show, it's a proper music video, but indeed lip-synched on a live recording. I'll correct the discog site entry immediately!

dance4me3121 said:

databank said:

I'm a little confused by your reply. If u have CB then u have the longer version of Interactive.

The version on CB is a little over 3 minutes.do you know how the long the short version was? In the first link you shared under the album configurations it says there was a shorter version and long version of "Interactive" [Edited 9/24/17 22:36pm]

The short version is 2:53, including the NPG Operator segues.

The long version is 3:01, without any such segues.

Both have been released, the first on the Interactive CD-Rom, the second on Crystal Ball.

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No other studio version is known to exist (though the one in the Beautiful Experience film is a slightly different mix, with live crowd overdubs, of the short version).

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I've always suspected, however, that the long version included on that May 1994 configuration of TGE was the long version WITH the NPG Operator segues, as it wouldn't have made much sense to remove the segues entirely in that specific context. But no such version has been documented to exist, which may mean that I'm totally wrong OR that only the tracklist is known (i.e. neither elite collectors nor the Uptown team are in possession of any recording of it, therefore they couldn't tell).

wouldve been a perfect album

Marco81 said:

Yeah the video was from a proper video shoot that took place in early October, I think the 7th. They shot Days of Wild, Gold and Rock n Roll is Alive

I was there for the Gold video shoot. It was pretty cool.

databank said:

Personally, if ´Days of Wild´, ´The Ride´ and ´Interactive´(full versions) replaced ´We march´(love political songs, but didnt like the production on that one), ´Shy´ and ´319´, it would have been perfect for me.

SoulAlive said:

• March 1994, configuration

1. NPG Operator
2. Interactive (shorter version)
3. NPG Operator
4. Days Of Wild
5. NPG Operator
6. The Most Beautiful Girl In The World
7. NPG Operator
8. Now
9. Acknowledge Me
10. Ripopgodazippa
11. NPG Operator
12. 319
13. NPG Operator
14. Shy
15. Billy Jack Bitch
16. Hate U
17. NPG Operator
18. Gold

This March 1994 configuration is the one I like best.I love the songs "Days Of Wild" and "Ripopgodazippa" and I was mad when Prince removed those songs from the final tracklist

I was confused by this move too. Especially after viewing the Beautiful Experience at Glam Slam so many years ago. Pussy Control is good(better as a B-side IMO), but kicking off TGE with "Interactive" and "Days of Wild"...damn that was brilliant!