Reply #30 posted 09/10/17 10:32am
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Who you chose to be offended by is odd to me. . Are you really more offended by my stating that Prince may have been a bit paranoid (even though Chaka Khan, herself, used that very word to describe him while also stating how humane and warm he had also become.) than all the other crap that is routinely stated about him on here even to this day. I over-defend Prince most of the time. . Ask most people here. I am not even criticizing Prince with the statement but I will agree that maybe this wasn't the place for it.
So for that reason, here are some more clips.
https://www.youtube.com/w...f-0V87BgYU
https://www.youtube.com/w...kYYS6OvryU
poppys said:
purplerabbithole said:
Let me ask you in all seriousness. Are you chastising the folks on that godawful "If Ahmir had lived" thread? Are you chastising folks on those threads which indicate that Prince was a heartless womanizer with a harem of dumb ambitious chicks.? Any indications that Prince might have had some weakness or vulnerability or mental illness and people get their panties in a bunch. But depict him as a heartless pimp/svengali and no one seems to get defensive. Really which one is worse--a heartless prick or a man with some mental struggles (like many many people in the world) and a complex personal life? I have more compassion for the latter.
This is not about another thread. It's about what is coming out of your mouth on YOUR thread. To paraphrase Prince. this says a lot more about you than it does him. Read your title again and maybe say something nice.
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Reply #31 posted 09/10/17 11:00am
poppys |
Yeah, no. I can scan youtube all by myself with no commentary.
Now he was "a bit paranoid"? Problems, but not mine. Peace out. "if you can't clap on the one, then don't clap at all" |
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Reply #32 posted 09/10/17 12:26pm
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respect! thanks for the videos... |
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Reply #33 posted 09/10/17 12:41pm
dodger |
I know he had his reasons (mainly $) for his YouTube stance but I think he definitely shot himself in the foot and missed out on gaining a lot of new fans. . I know of a few people who have become fans since watching/hearing a lot of stuff on there since he passed. . A friend of mine is hooked now and is constantly asking me questions about his career. He randomly text me today asking why Acknowledge Me never made an album after seeing the Soul Train performance on YouTube |
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Reply #34 posted 09/11/17 8:35am
Vannormal
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Stuning !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972) |
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Reply #35 posted 09/11/17 11:02am
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purplerabbithole said: So, ageism justifies ignoring great performances? the lack of attention is criminal because the amount of skill required for him to do what he did. I don't like Swift. I do respect Ed Sheeren. There are performances by modern musicians I like. So, I am not pitting old musicians against young ones. . I am currently a teacher's aide in middle school. I like the youth of this country. But music did not begin with their era and they simply need to open their minds to all eras. I grew up listening to many eras of music. I really branched out to 60's rock when I was around 15 and I didn't need youtube to branch out to 60's rock etc. I grew up in the 80's and90's but understood that my generation was not the only cool one. By the way, my kids love Prince and don't think of him as an old fart because I exposed them to his music. I recently found out that my 14 year old niece likes Prince and knows the song Sexy MF. I could't believe she knew that song and i also wondered how she stumbled upon the song. I didn't get a chance to ask.
Yewdale said:
When you say criminally low hits, and then explain it by measuring Prince's hits on Youtube against those of Taylor Swift.... you are not comparing like for like.
One man or woman's outstanding live clip, is another kid's boring old fart playing weird old music that is of no relevance to them.
Had Youtube been around in 1984, I'm not sure old grainy concert footage of Nat King Cole, Frank Sinatra or B.B King from the 1950's would have torn me away from watching When Doves Cry or Let's Go Crazy over and over, no matter how much my dad assured me I was missing out on some of the best music of all time (he was right) .... so why should it be different for the majority of today's kids?
For some fans it might feel a shame that not more people are exposed to the genius and joy or Prince, but Taylor Swift and Ed Sheeran mean something NOW to tens of millions of people around the world, and Prince, when it comes to the Youtube audience, obviously doesn't. That's fine by me. He didn't gear his career towards the Youtube generation/model, or measure his own success by it. If he didn't care I'm damned if I'm going to, lol.
Those live experiences were appreciated and loved when it really mattered to Prince.... in the moment they happened, by those who were there. If people today can get a kick out of watching old Youtube clips of him... great. If not, it's no biggie.
[Edited 9/8/17 4:16am] [Edited 9/8/17 4:18am] Every generation tells the next generation to listen to their music. Its always the same. Why cant we just let people enjoy what they like. So they wanna see taylor swift and not prince, so what? Its their taste. You can never change somebody's taste |
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Reply #36 posted 09/11/17 12:26pm
Yewdale |
nextedition said:
purplerabbithole said:
So, ageism justifies ignoring great performances? the lack of attention is criminal because the amount of skill required for him to do what he did. I don't like Swift. I do respect Ed Sheeren. There are performances by modern musicians I like. So, I am not pitting old musicians against young ones. . I am currently a teacher's aide in middle school. I like the youth of this country. But music did not begin with their era and they simply need to open their minds to all eras. I grew up listening to many eras of music. I really branched out to 60's rock when I was around 15 and I didn't need youtube to branch out to 60's rock etc. I grew up in the 80's and90's but understood that my generation was not the only cool one.
By the way, my kids love Prince and don't think of him as an old fart because I exposed them to his music. I recently found out that my 14 year old niece likes Prince and knows the song Sexy MF. I could't believe she knew that song and i also wondered how she stumbled upon the song. I didn't get a chance to ask.
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Every generation tells the next generation to listen to their music. Its always the same. Why cant we just let people enjoy what they like. So they wanna see taylor swift and not prince, so what? Its their taste. You can never change somebody's taste
Yup
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Reply #37 posted 09/11/17 4:38pm
purplerabbitho le |
They are not exposed to most of Prince's music. If they still don't like it for whatever reason after being exposed to it, then fine. BUt the little attention it gets from music critics etc gets on my nerves. I am not talking about kid's tastes. You are right. Its hard to get people to like music they don't like. But what's wrong with encouraging young folks to branch out beyond what's right in front of their faces and only catered toward them. I was grateful for the eclectic music I was exposed to as a kid. It enriched my life to listen to older music, just as it is exciting to discover the next big thing.
nextedition said:
purplerabbithole said:
So, ageism justifies ignoring great performances? the lack of attention is criminal because the amount of skill required for him to do what he did. I don't like Swift. I do respect Ed Sheeren. There are performances by modern musicians I like. So, I am not pitting old musicians against young ones. . I am currently a teacher's aide in middle school. I like the youth of this country. But music did not begin with their era and they simply need to open their minds to all eras. I grew up listening to many eras of music. I really branched out to 60's rock when I was around 15 and I didn't need youtube to branch out to 60's rock etc. I grew up in the 80's and90's but understood that my generation was not the only cool one.
By the way, my kids love Prince and don't think of him as an old fart because I exposed them to his music. I recently found out that my 14 year old niece likes Prince and knows the song Sexy MF. I could't believe she knew that song and i also wondered how she stumbled upon the song. I didn't get a chance to ask.
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Every generation tells the next generation to listen to their music. Its always the same. Why cant we just let people enjoy what they like. So they wanna see taylor swift and not prince, so what? Its their taste. You can never change somebody's taste
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