laurarichardson said:

morningsong said:

I don't know, doesn't seem like they are involved. I may be remembering wrong if Hit N' Run was somehow connected to UMG before Prince died. From the court proceedings their argument was they wanted certain portions of the pie which turns out to be owned by WB until 2020 as opposed to 2018, and because of that they wanted completely out of the agreement they signed because "the value of an artist music who is deceased decreases over time", which the judge granted. I don't see anything that says they are partically handling anything, that was what they barked about in the first place they didn't go into this expecting only particial control. From reading I got the impressing it was an all or nothing deal. I think a whole new agreement would have to be drawn up for partial control and I don't see where that's been done.

Hit N' Run was somehow connected to UMG before Prince died.

No it was not. Prince cut ties with UMG as his admin to start NPG Publishing. He brought the adminstration in house for all his music. Why would the most recent work be administerd by the company he just finished doing business with.

Now all of the music is being admin by UMG. The deal had 3 separate parts. The merchandising, Admin and licensing. The licensing got rescinded not the other two parts. Lonnie gave his friends at UMG Prince catalogue to make money off of after Prince left this same company a short while before.

See artilce below about the other separate deals. The other two deals are only for five years.

https://www.spin.com/2017/05/universal-prince-estate-deal-cancelled/

"The timing is key as UMG’s separate merchandise and music-publishing deals with the estate aren’t guaranteed beyond the next five years, according to sources."

------ See the article below from Rolling Out about publishing going away from UMG to NPG.

Take a look at the date. Just two years and a week and he was dead. It also states a schedule of songs so maybe not all back at that time but I am sure they have all been scooped up Universal by this time.

https://rollingout.com/2014/04/05/princes-entire-catalog-now-controlled-npg-music-publishing/

Popular music icon Prince has announced that his massive catalog of classic material is now under the control of his own NPG Music Publishing. This is the first time Prince’s publishing has been controlled independently; for the better part of two decades it has been controlled and administered by Universal Music Group. Prince established NPG Music Publishing a little over a month ago as an LLC.

The announcement was made via press release confirming that “the terms of the deal are not public” and that “it includes a schedule of songs that Prince considers ‘fit 4 eternal publication.'” It also, somewhat quizzically, states that NPG Music Publishing was founded “by Artists for Artists.”

Prince is currently signed to Epic Records, with NPG Music Publishing assisting on the release of “FALLINLOVE2NITE,” the Prince single that was featured during his much-hyped guest appearance on FOX’s New Girl in February. With his publishing now firmly in his control, NPG Music Publishing will now “actively [seek] placement for some of Prince’s best-loved songs in film, television, video games and the commercial realm.”

Prince has famously fought for control of his music and brand for years. He drew the world’s attention to his battle with Warner Bros. in the mid-1990s when he began performing with “SLAVE” scrawled across his cheek and went so far as to cease performing under the name “Prince” for several years–changing his stage moniker to an unpronounceable symbol–due to conflicts with his label.

---

See article below listing the period of performance of Prince publishing deal.

http://tcbmag.com/news/articles/2016/universal-chosen-as-the-exclusive-publisher-of-pri

"UMPG at one point held a publishing contract with Prince in 2001. That contract ended in 2014 with Prince and his staff taking over management of his own publishing catalog."

[Edited 9/19/17 12:15pm]

This is going to take me a while to get through, just wanted to say thanks for providing this info.

Folks getting fined?

morningsong said:

Folks getting fined?

So Mixed Blood received a settlement. So who does that leave for claims?

I remember the Eight Day Sound people but I have not seen any doc about their claim in a while.

Are any claims or suits left outside of the Tidal suit?

laurarichardson said:

morningsong said:

Folks getting fined?

So Mixed Blood received a settlement. So who does that leave for claims?

I remember the Eight Day Sound people but I have not seen any doc about their claim in a while.

Are any claims or suits left outside of the Tidal suit?

The Wheaton sanctions, it won't let me copy and paste anything, but each lawyer is gettting sanctioned.

morningsong said:

laurarichardson said:

So Mixed Blood received a settlement. So who does that leave for claims?

I remember the Eight Day Sound people but I have not seen any doc about their claim in a while.

Are any claims or suits left outside of the Tidal suit?

The Wheaton sanctions, it won't let me copy and paste anything, but each lawyer is gettting sanctioned.

I have an updated sheet I will publish this week at this time I cannot place Terrance Davis.

morningsong said:

laurarichardson said:

So Mixed Blood received a settlement. So who does that leave for claims?

I remember the Eight Day Sound people but I have not seen any doc about their claim in a while.

Are any claims or suits left outside of the Tidal suit?

The Wheaton sanctions, it won't let me copy and paste anything, but each lawyer is gettting sanctioned.

The Judge vacated Wheaton's sanctions.

Bruntjen already paid his sanctions.

I think the Boxhill case is still pending but not in Probate Court.

O'Conner, Wheaton and Bruntjen's Appeal is still pending.


Crooked Cousins Appeal is still pending.

The time has not ran yet for the others to file an Appeal to the Supreme Court of Minnesota.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

morningsong said:

The Wheaton sanctions, it won't let me copy and paste anything, but each lawyer is gettting sanctioned.

The Judge vacated Wheaton's sanctions.

Bruntjen already paid his sanctions.

I think the Boxhill case is still pending but not in Probate Court.

O'Conner, Wheaton and Bruntjen's Appeal is still pending.


Crooked Cousins Appeal is still pending.

The time has not ran yet for the others to file an Appeal to the Supreme Court of Minnesota.

O'Conner, Wheaton and Bruntjen's Appeal is still pending

What are they appealing ? I know I missed their drama.

Did Cousin's have his 500k legal bill turned away because he had no actual invoice for services? Is this what he is appealing?

laurarichardson said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

The Judge vacated Wheaton's sanctions.

Bruntjen already paid his sanctions.

I think the Boxhill case is still pending but not in Probate Court.

O'Conner, Wheaton and Bruntjen's Appeal is still pending.


Crooked Cousins Appeal is still pending.

The time has not ran yet for the others to file an Appeal to the Supreme Court of Minnesota.

O'Conner, Wheaton and Bruntjen's Appeal is still pending

What are they appealing ? I know I missed their drama.

Did Cousin's have his 500k legal bill turned away because he had no actual invoice for services? Is this what he is appealing?

Cousins was booted because his claim was disallowedby the Estate, and he missed the deadline to object to the disallowance. Also there is a 6 year statute of limitations on the contract claim for his attorney fees.

Cousins is saying he knows a lot of things but he is being quiet since the case is being followed closely by the media, so he is keeping information about P "close to the cuff." He does say he had other things to get done in relation to the divorce and P wasnt going to pay him until he got it done.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

laurarichardson said:

O'Conner, Wheaton and Bruntjen's Appeal is still pending

What are they appealing ? I know I missed their drama.

Did Cousin's have his 500k legal bill turned away because he had no actual invoice for services? Is this what he is appealing?

Cousins was booted because his claim was disallowedby the Estate, and he missed the deadline to object to the disallowance. Also there is a 6 year statute of limitations on the contract claim for his attorney fees.

Cousins is saying he knows a lot of things but he is being quiet since the case is being followed closely by the media, so he is keeping information about P "close to the cuff." He does say he had other things to get done in relation to the divorce and P wasnt going to pay him until he got it done.

Oh.....the Intrigue.............

Lovejunky said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Cousins was booted because his claim was disallowedby the Estate, and he missed the deadline to object to the disallowance. Also there is a 6 year statute of limitations on the contract claim for his attorney fees.

Cousins is saying he knows a lot of things but he is being quiet since the case is being followed closely by the media, so he is keeping information about P "close to the cuff." He does say he had other things to get done in relation to the divorce and P wasnt going to pay him until he got it done.

Oh.....the Intrigue.............

I think he is just telling tall tales so he can get his claim in within the 6 year statute of limitations.

I remembered one more case.

The Jobu case is still pending.

In other estates without a will and testament, things might not go so well: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-09-27/jpmorgan-ordered-pay-over-4-billion-widow-and-family

Things do not always go so good when people have wills and trust either. Read about Ray Charles who had a trust. His kids have gone out of the way to stop the money from his royalties from going to charity.

http://www.wealthmanagement.com/high-net-worth/ray-charles-foundation-and-children-rekindle-copyright-fight

Late last week, the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit issued a decision that breathed new life into a case highlighting an interesting intersection of the worlds of estate planning and copyright law. The case in question was initiated in 2012 by the Ray Charles Foundation, which supports the vision- and hearing-impaired, against 7 of the musician’s 12 children, to block their attempted terminations of copyrights in 51 of Charles’ songs, including “I Got A Woman” and “Hallelujah, I Love Her So.” The foundation was Charles’ sole heir and received the entirety of his estate, including the rights to receive royalties for his songs. It’s forbidden from accepting private donations and draws all of its revenue from these royalties. His children, on the other hand, each got a trust worth $500,000 apiece shortly before his death and were required to sign written contracts effectively waiving their rights to any other inheritance.

Things go great when people are not being crooked and trying to steal. Think about the lawsuits in Prince's estate being caused by crooked lawyers trying to make a buck. Maybe if some people had just been ethical these lawsuits would not exisit. Prince had no pending lawsuits when he died and only the lighting and sound company claims appear to actually be bills pertaining to his business.

I think Comerica is making a good effort in resolving things that were caused by Breamer and Co.

udo said:

In other estates without a will and testament, things might not go so well: http://www.zerohedge.com/...and-family

[Edited 9/27/17 6:58am]

Lovejunky said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Cousins was booted because his claim was disallowedby the Estate, and he missed the deadline to object to the disallowance. Also there is a 6 year statute of limitations on the contract claim for his attorney fees.

Cousins is saying he knows a lot of things but he is being quiet since the case is being followed closely by the media, so he is keeping information about P "close to the cuff." He does say he had other things to get done in relation to the divorce and P wasnt going to pay him until he got it done.

Oh.....the Intrigue.............

Ya know.

laurarichardson said:

Things do not always go so good when people have wills and trust either. Read about Ray Charles who had a trust. His kids have gone out of the way to stop the money from his royalties from going to charity.

http://www.wealthmanagement.com/high-net-worth/ray-charles-foundation-and-children-rekindle-copyright-fight

Late last week, the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit issued a decision that breathed new life into a case highlighting an interesting intersection of the worlds of estate planning and copyright law. The case in question was initiated in 2012 by the Ray Charles Foundation, which supports the vision- and hearing-impaired, against 7 of the musician’s 12 children, to block their attempted terminations of copyrights in 51 of Charles’ songs, including “I Got A Woman” and “Hallelujah, I Love Her So.” The foundation was Charles’ sole heir and received the entirety of his estate, including the rights to receive royalties for his songs. It’s forbidden from accepting private donations and draws all of its revenue from these royalties. His children, on the other hand, each got a trust worth $500,000 apiece shortly before his death and were required to sign written contracts effectively waiving their rights to any other inheritance.

Things go great when people are not being crooked and trying to steal. Think about the lawsuits in Prince's estate being caused by crooked lawyers trying to make a buck. Maybe if some people had just been ethical these lawsuits would not exisit. Prince had no pending lawsuits when he died and only the lighting and sound company claims appear to actually be bills pertaining to his business.

I think Comerica is making a good effort in resolving things that were caused by Breamer and Co.

udo said:

In other estates without a will and testament, things might not go so well: http://www.zerohedge.com/...and-family

[Edited 9/27/17 6:58am]

WHAT WAS THE DECISION???

I believe the kids lost but are appealing. The foundation cannot take private funds all of the money must come from Ray Charles's royatlies. In order for the foundation to operate they have to have those royatlties.

Bodhitheblackdog said:

laurarichardson said:

Things do not always go so good when people have wills and trust either. Read about Ray Charles who had a trust. His kids have gone out of the way to stop the money from his royalties from going to charity.

http://www.wealthmanagement.com/high-net-worth/ray-charles-foundation-and-children-rekindle-copyright-fight

Late last week, the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit issued a decision that breathed new life into a case highlighting an interesting intersection of the worlds of estate planning and copyright law. The case in question was initiated in 2012 by the Ray Charles Foundation, which supports the vision- and hearing-impaired, against 7 of the musician’s 12 children, to block their attempted terminations of copyrights in 51 of Charles’ songs, including “I Got A Woman” and “Hallelujah, I Love Her So.” The foundation was Charles’ sole heir and received the entirety of his estate, including the rights to receive royalties for his songs. It’s forbidden from accepting private donations and draws all of its revenue from these royalties. His children, on the other hand, each got a trust worth $500,000 apiece shortly before his death and were required to sign written contracts effectively waiving their rights to any other inheritance.

Things go great when people are not being crooked and trying to steal. Think about the lawsuits in Prince's estate being caused by crooked lawyers trying to make a buck. Maybe if some people had just been ethical these lawsuits would not exisit. Prince had no pending lawsuits when he died and only the lighting and sound company claims appear to actually be bills pertaining to his business.

I think Comerica is making a good effort in resolving things that were caused by Breamer and Co.

[Edited 9/27/17 6:58am]

WHAT WAS THE DECISION???

Update. Some people have no idea about their status. Of course we also have 7 people who had DNA test that are under seal.

Lily Cassandra Alphonsis – Inmate – dismissed

Maleikia s. Mosley- Prince held her hostage

Marjorie L Frazier Prince’s wife – disallowed

Patrick S. Cousins – Crooked lawyer who wants to be paid for 10 year old invoice

Joshua M Essex- Claims he is a son. Not sure what is going on with claim filed past deadline.

Regina L. Jensen Sorenson- claims half –sister. I think thrown out

Sharon Hughes- Ice Cream Castle background singer wants her 5 cents an album- thrown out

Terrance Davis- Can’t find out who he is or what his claim was

Xavier A. Powell- worked for Keri Gordy who worked at PP and feels she should be compensated- thrown out

James Brandon- Claims he wrote Girl Six- Case not heard by court two days before Prince died. Brandon then filed a claim again. Not sure of status.

Fiduciary Trust Company International (Wealth Management Firm) - At one point they represented Tyka but I am not sure if they still are representing her.

Suzanne Viveros – Claim dismissed

Shawnetta T. Graham- Claims dismissed

Ricky Barron- Make A Wish promoter – settled

Eight Day Sound System Inc- Not sure what happened with this claim.

Rodney H. Dixon- claims he bought everything from Prince for a dollar- thrown out.

Carlin Q Williams- Inmate claims son- failed DNA test

Estabon Bennermon- not given a DNA test due to being adopted.

Gresham gang – thrown out

Corey Simmons- Claimed he was the son of Duane but he was not

Venita- Jackson – Leverette – Claimed Prince’s half sister – thrown out

Claire- thrown out claims she is Prince’s wife.

Claimants Filed Under Seal

Elaine Whigham Williams Not sure

Claimant 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7,

Anthony M Steman- failed DNA test

Xavier Powell- claims he wrote songs

Mixed Blood Theatre- Settled

Taz Laeni Walker- had DNA test back in 2002 was turned down for second test.

People who I am not sure what there claims are or status.

1) Jonette M Carter

2) Karie Clay

3) Michael John Darling

4) Mia M. Stamper Dragojevich –

5) Rev. Dennis W. Earle -- Think he might have been one of the second cousins that got dismissed. Update.

6) Lorraine M. Huddleston - dismissed. Second cousin Update.

7) R. Kerr – AIN Solutions Recordings

8) Roskco A. Motes

9) Dana Samules Nettles

I think these people filed late claims claiming to be children. Not sure

10) Kimberly Felecia Potts

11) Martha L. Samueles

12) April Lashaun Seward

13) Maurice Lee Soledad

14) Nicole P. White

Don’t know what their claims are or the status

15) Priscilla S. Williams

16) James Austin Womack

[Edited 9/29/17 19:26pm]

laurarichardson said:

Update. Some people have no idea about their status. Of course we also have 7 people who had DNA test that are under seal.

Lily Cassandra Alphonsis – Inmate – dismissed

Maleikia s. Mosley- Prince held her hostage

Marjorie L Frazier Prince’s wife – disallowed

Patrick S. Cousins – Crooked lawyer who wants to be paid for 10 year old invoice

Joshua M Essex- Claims he is a son. Not sure what is going on with claim filed past deadline.

Regina L. Jensen Sorenson- claims half –sister. I think thrown out

Sharon Hughes- Ice Cream Castle background singer wants her 5 cents an album- thrown out

Terrance Davis- Can’t find out who he is or what his claim was

Xavier A. Powell- worked for Keri Gordy who worked at PP and feels she should be compensated- thrown out

James Brandon- Claims he wrote Girl Six- Case not heard by court two days before Prince died. Brandon then filed a claim again. Not sure of status.

Fiduciary Trust Company International (Wealth Management Firm) - At one point they represented Tyka but I am not sure if they still are representing her.

Suzanne Viveros – Claim dismissed

Shawnetta T. Graham- Claims dismissed

Ricky Barron- Make A Wish promoter – settled

Eight Day Sound System Inc- Not sure what happened with this claim.

Rodney H. Dixon- claims he bought everything from Prince for a dollar- thrown out.

Carlin Q Williams- Inmate claims son- failed DNA test

Estabon Bennermon- not given a DNA test due to being adopted.

Gresham gang – thrown out

Corey Simmons- Claimed he was the son of Duane but he was not

Venita- Jackson – Leverette – Claimed Prince’s half sister – thrown out

Claire- thrown out claims she is Prince’s wife.

Claimants Filed Under Seal

Elaine Whigham Williams Not sure

Claimant 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7,

Anthony M Steman- failed DNA test

Xavier Powell- claims he wrote songs

Mixed Blood Theatre- Settled

Taz Laeni Walker- had DNA test back in 2002 was turned down for second test.

People who I am not sure what there claims are or status.

1) Jonette M Carter

2) Karie Clay

3) Michael John Darling

4) Mia M. Stamper Dragojevich –

5) Rev. Dennis W. Earle -- Think he might have been one of the second cousins that got dismissed. Update.

6) Lorraine M. Huddleston - dismissed. Second cousin Update.

7) R. Kerr – AIN Solutions Recordings

8) Roskco A. Motes

9) Dana Samules Nettles

I think these people filed late claims claiming to be children. Not sure

10) Kimberly Felecia Potts

11) Martha L. Samueles

12) April Lashaun Seward

13) Maurice Lee Soledad

14) Nicole P. White

Don’t know what their claims are or the status

15) Priscilla S. Williams

16) James Austin Womack

[Edited 9/29/17 19:26pm]

Gee, impressive work, LR...(are you tearing your hair out yet over these low lifes?)

"News Flash" Incompetence is running rampant with the estate! Comerica makes a really bad move, stay tuned! "THEY DID WHAT?"

TheEquilizer said:

"News Flash" Incompetence is running rampant with the estate! Comerica makes a really bad move, stay tuned! "THEY DID WHAT?"

Why do we have to "stay tuned?"

Put a fork in me, Im done with cryptic messages from all peeps on this board.

TheEquilizer said:

"News Flash" Incompetence is running rampant with the estate! Comerica makes a really bad move, stay tuned! "THEY DID WHAT?"

Is that you Londell?

https://twitter.com/Londe...7361857536

laurarichardson said:

Update. Some people have no idea about their status. Of course we also have 7 people who had DNA test that are under seal.

Lily Cassandra Alphonsis – Inmate – dismissed

Maleikia s. Mosley- Prince held her hostage

Marjorie L Frazier Prince’s wife – disallowed

Patrick S. Cousins – Crooked lawyer who wants to be paid for 10 year old invoice

Joshua M Essex- Claims he is a son. Not sure what is going on with claim filed past deadline.

Regina L. Jensen Sorenson- claims half –sister. I think thrown out

Sharon Hughes- Ice Cream Castle background singer wants her 5 cents an album- thrown out

Terrance Davis- Can’t find out who he is or what his claim was

Xavier A. Powell- worked for Keri Gordy who worked at PP and feels she should be compensated- thrown out

James Brandon- Claims he wrote Girl Six- Case not heard by court two days before Prince died. Brandon then filed a claim again. Not sure of status.

Fiduciary Trust Company International (Wealth Management Firm) - At one point they represented Tyka but I am not sure if they still are representing her.

Suzanne Viveros – Claim dismissed

Shawnetta T. Graham- Claims dismissed

Ricky Barron- Make A Wish promoter – settled

Eight Day Sound System Inc- Not sure what happened with this claim.

Rodney H. Dixon- claims he bought everything from Prince for a dollar- thrown out.

Carlin Q Williams- Inmate claims son- failed DNA test

Estabon Bennermon- not given a DNA test due to being adopted.

Gresham gang – thrown out

Corey Simmons- Claimed he was the son of Duane but he was not

Venita- Jackson – Leverette – Claimed Prince’s half sister – thrown out

Claire- thrown out claims she is Prince’s wife.

Claimants Filed Under Seal

Elaine Whigham Williams Not sure

Claimant 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7,

Anthony M Steman- failed DNA test

Xavier Powell- claims he wrote songs

Mixed Blood Theatre- Settled

Taz Laeni Walker- had DNA test back in 2002 was turned down for second test.

People who I am not sure what there claims are or status.

1) Jonette M Carter

2) Karie Clay

3) Michael John Darling

4) Mia M. Stamper Dragojevich –

5) Rev. Dennis W. Earle -- Think he might have been one of the second cousins that got dismissed. Update.

6) Lorraine M. Huddleston - dismissed. Second cousin Update.

7) R. Kerr – AIN Solutions Recordings

8) Roskco A. Motes

9) Dana Samules Nettles

I think these people filed late claims claiming to be children. Not sure

10) Kimberly Felecia Potts

11) Martha L. Samueles

12) April Lashaun Seward

13) Maurice Lee Soledad

14) Nicole P. White

Don’t know what their claims are or the status

15) Priscilla S. Williams

16) James Austin Womack

[Edited 9/29/17 19:26pm]

Thank You

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

laurarichardson said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Why do we have to "stay tuned?"

Put a fork in me, Im done with cryptic messages from all peeps on this board.

Because the equalizer works for SNJ. The Equalizer would like to continue to cash checks and ride the purple gravy train for the rest of his days. Making deals with his friends at UMG.

LR, Please stop with your conjecture and spread of misinformation, as much as you would like it to be true, I don't work for SNJ. As for the purple gravy train comment, T. Carter is the one your assesment acurrately depicts, but he's definitely no deal maker which is why it is taking 4ever to hear new Prince music.

TheEquilizer said:

laurarichardson said:

TheEquilizer said:

LR, Please stop with your conjecture and spread of misinformation, as much as you would like it to be true, I don't work for SNJ. As for the purple gravy train comment, T. Carter is the one your assesment acurrately depicts, but he's definitely no deal maker which is why it is taking 4ever to hear new Prince music.

1. You are on this board promoting John's music 2. You seem to know what is going on with the house in Turks and Caicos 3. You are commenting on estate affairs. What picture do you think you are drawing?

H'mmmm, now that you've highlighted those points, come to think of it, it does kinda sound like I do know a lil something regarding the facts about what is really going on.

laurarichardson said:

TheEquilizer said:

LR, Please stop with your conjecture and spread of misinformation, as much as you would like it to be true, I don't work for SNJ. As for the purple gravy train comment, T. Carter is the one your assesment acurrately depicts, but he's definitely no deal maker which is why it is taking 4ever to hear new Prince music.

1. You are on this board promoting John's music 2. You seem to know what is going on with the house in Turks and Caicos 3. You are commenting on estate affairs. What picture do you think you are drawing?

I've got your back Laura.

I see we are being infiltrated by the LonnieLurvers.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

laurarichardson said:

TheEquilizer said: 1. You are on this board promoting John's music 2. You seem to know what is going on with the house in Turks and Caicos 3. You are commenting on estate affairs. What picture do you think you are drawing?

I've got your back Laura.

I see we are being infiltrated by the LonnieLurvers.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

laurarichardson said:

TheEquilizer said: 1. You are on this board promoting John's music 2. You seem to know what is going on with the house in Turks and Caicos 3. You are commenting on estate affairs. What picture do you think you are drawing?

I've got your back Laura.

I see we are being infiltrated by the LonnieLurvers.

Not a Lonnie Lover OR Haters myself, but sinceI have limited vision

into what is really going on, Im remaining o p e n

Id like to hear what the Equailizer has to say !

TheEquilizer said: