laurarichardson said:

TheEquilizer said:

laurarichardson said:

We know who you are and what you are up to. You need to realize that despite the efforts to breach the WB deal it is not going to happen. What is done is done and the fact that blood sucking vultures want go agaisnt Prince's wishes for the sole purpose of lining their pockets is disgusting. It is not your music and you and the rest of the vultures are not going to get the final word. I hope if the WSJ article was correct and that WB does have the license to some albums forever just so the gravey train riders do not get their hands on anything. If the deal was structed so different albums have different start and end dates with some going forever so be it. What does that mean to you if he wanted WB to have the license to the soundtracks forever? It means you and the vultures do not get to have a say. [Edited 10/2/17 5:05am]

You are very amusing with your comments and I applaud you for your passion even though it's strictly based on opinion and what if. Contrary to what you may think, not everyone involved is a vulture looking for money, the principle of doing what's right is what is important.

If people are getting a commission for the deals that can get it is for the money. If not for the money why not just bill by the hour like most consultants?

Getting a commission is extra incentive to just grab a deal to get paid even if it means breaching contracts that are already in place which is exactly what almost happend with WB.

How about shutting down NPG Publishing and sending the admin to UMG which appears to be incapable of sending take down notices to YOUTUBE to the point of the estate of Prince Rogers Nelson having to do themselves.

How about the 4 crap shirts that UMG is selling while all over the internet people stick P's face and symbol on toilet bowls and shower curtians with not one penny of that money going to the estate.

How about the Equalizer actually not being happy that music is being licensed in a movie because I guess actually having the estate earn money is a problem when the funds are not going into the pockest of the vultures.

I am not trying to be amusing I have speaking on events that have actually occured. What right does anyone have to come in after the fact and try to destroy deals Prince had in place before he died?

If Tidal or WB breached their end of the deals a court can take a look and decide. From what we have viewed it was a chosen few who decided to try and breach these deals for the sole purpose of putting a commission in their pocket and possiblity hooking up friends and associates at UMG and Breamer.

[Edited 10/2/17 5:57am]

laurarichardson said:

TheEquilizer said:

laurarichardson said: You are very amusing with your comments and I applaud you for your passion even though it's strictly based on opinion and what if. Contrary to what you may think, not everyone involved is a vulture looking for money, the principle of doing what's right is what is important.

If people are getting a commission for the deals that can get it is for the money. If not for the money why not just bill by the hour like most consultants?

Getting a commission is extra incentive to just grab a deal to get paid even if it means breaching contracts that are already in place which is exactly what almost happend with WB.

How about shutting down NPG Publishing and sending the admin to UMG which appears to be incapable of sending take down notices to YOUTUBE to the point of the estate of Prince Rogers Nelson having to do themselves.

How about the 4 crap shirts that UMG is selling while all over the internet people stick P's face and symbol on toilet bowls and shower curtians with not one penny of that money going to the estate.

How about the Equalizer actually not being happy that music is being licensed in a movie because I guess actually having the estate earn money is a problem when the funds are not going into the pockest of the vultures.

I am not trying to be amusing I have speaking on events that have actually occured. What right does anyone have to come in after the fact and try to destroy deals Prince had in place before he died?

If Tidal or WB breached their end of the deals a court can take a look and decide. From what we have viewed it was a chosen few who decided to try and breach these deals for the sole purpose of putting a commission in their pocket and possiblity hooking up friends and associates at UMG and Breamer.

[Edited 10/2/17 5:57am]

Would it surprise you to find out that at this very moment there is an appointee by the powers that be that gets a salary and high commission but is clueless in that role, hence no new music for us fans, but you can see Prince's likeness on a slot machine?

Most people are only aware of the fact that P entered into the 2014 deal with WB, P got his masters back, what does that really mean, under what circumstances, at what cost? If I understand correctly, there were some social justice advocates who befriended P with no music business experience who he trusted who happened to negotiate on his behalf, but the question is did they know what they were actually doing? Would we all be surprised to learn that the deal did not secure all of the rights in P's best interest? Can you say Hoodwinked, Bamboozled, Led Astray, Misinformed! " By the way, anybody seen or heard from, she's been missing in action?"

As for shutting down infringement and sending take down notices, I think that once again may fall under the responsibilities of those in charge of the estate. Would you say they are doing an awesome job, I mean they must be getting paid extremely well? Anybody want to buy a Pantone Purple and Orange striped toilet seat?

As for the 4 crap shirts and no money for the estate, that goes back to the question, what are those people in charge doing for all that money they are being paid?

To your comment regarding the The Equilizer not being happy that music is being licensed in a movie, to put it simply it's the understanding of the movie and knowing the artist. H'mmm, I wonder why it wasn't placed in Kingsman 1, that came out in 2014 right? Something tells me people knew better to even ask. Well the licensing that is being granted will eventually result in distribution to the heirs, as it should.

What right, destroy deals, not sure what you are getting at with this one?

As for your comment regarding Tidal or WB breaching, and sole purpose of putting a commission in their pockets I'm going to assume based on other comments you have made, that this comment was brought about by your antipathy for your secret lover Lonny! "Secret Lovers, that's what you are", that's Atlantic Star, I love me some Atlantic Star!!!!!

Old people cant read your small print. Try again.

TheEquilizer said:

laurarichardson said:

If people are getting a commission for the deals that can get it is for the money. If not for the money why not just bill by the hour like most consultants?

Getting a commission is extra incentive to just grab a deal to get paid even if it means breaching contracts that are already in place which is exactly what almost happend with WB.

How about shutting down NPG Publishing and sending the admin to UMG which appears to be incapable of sending take down notices to YOUTUBE to the point of the estate of Prince Rogers Nelson having to do themselves.

How about the 4 crap shirts that UMG is selling while all over the internet people stick P's face and symbol on toilet bowls and shower curtians with not one penny of that money going to the estate.

How about the Equalizer actually not being happy that music is being licensed in a movie because I guess actually having the estate earn money is a problem when the funds are not going into the pockest of the vultures.

I am not trying to be amusing I have speaking on events that have actually occured. What right does anyone have to come in after the fact and try to destroy deals Prince had in place before he died?

If Tidal or WB breached their end of the deals a court can take a look and decide. From what we have viewed it was a chosen few who decided to try and breach these deals for the sole purpose of putting a commission in their pocket and possiblity hooking up friends and associates at UMG and Breamer.

[Edited 10/2/17 5:57am]

Would it surprise you to find out that at this very moment there is an appointee by the powers that be that gets a salary and high commission but is clueless in that role, hence no new music for us fans, but you can see Prince's likeness on a slot machine?

Most people are only aware of the fact that P entered into the 2014 deal with WB, P got his masters back, what does that really mean, under what circumstances, at what cost? If I understand correctly, there were some social justice advocates who befriended P with no music business experience who he trusted who happened to negotiate on his behalf, but the question is did they know what they were actually doing? Would we all be surprised to learn that the deal did not secure all of the rights in P's best interest? Can you say Hoodwinked, Bamboozled, Led Astray, Misinformed! " By the way, anybody seen or heard from, she's been missing in action?"

As for shutting down infringement and sending take down notices, I think that once again may fall under the responsibilities of those in charge of the estate. Would you say they are doing an awesome job, I mean they must be getting paid extremely well? Anybody want to buy a Pantone Purple and Orange striped toilet seat?

As for the 4 crap shirts and no money for the estate, that goes back to the question, what are those people in charge doing for all that money they are being paid?

To your comment regarding the The Equilizer not being happy that music is being licensed in a movie, to put it simply it's the understanding of the movie and knowing the artist. H'mmm, I wonder why it wasn't placed in Kingsman 1, that came out in 2014 right? Something tells me people knew better to even ask. Well the licensing that is being granted will eventually result in distribution to the heirs, as it should.

What right, destroy deals, not sure what you are getting at with this one?

As for your comment regarding Tidal or WB breaching, and sole purpose of putting a commission in their pockets I'm going to assume based on other comments you have made, that this comment was brought about by your antipathy for your secret lover Lonny! "Secret Lovers, that's what you are", that's Atlantic Star, I love me some Atlantic Star!!!!!

Laziness..not a good sign

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Old people cant read your small print. Try again.

TheEquilizer said:

Would it surprise you to find out that at this very moment there is an appointee by the powers that be that gets a salary and high commission but is clueless in that role, hence no new music for us fans, but you can see Prince's likeness on a slot machine?

Most people are only aware of the fact that P entered into the 2014 deal with WB, P got his masters back, what does that really mean, under what circumstances, at what cost? If I understand correctly, there were some social justice advocates who befriended P with no music business experience who he trusted who happened to negotiate on his behalf, but the question is did they know what they were actually doing? Would we all be surprised to learn that the deal did not secure all of the rights in P's best interest? Can you say Hoodwinked, Bamboozled, Led Astray, Misinformed! " By the way, anybody seen or heard from, she's been missing in action?"

As for shutting down infringement and sending take down notices, I think that once again may fall under the responsibilities of those in charge of the estate. Would you say they are doing an awesome job, I mean they must be getting paid extremely well? Anybody want to buy a Pantone Purple and Orange striped toilet seat?

As for the 4 crap shirts and no money for the estate, that goes back to the question, what are those people in charge doing for all that money they are being paid?

To your comment regarding the The Equilizer not being happy that music is being licensed in a movie, to put it simply it's the understanding of the movie and knowing the artist. H'mmm, I wonder why it wasn't placed in Kingsman 1, that came out in 2014 right? Something tells me people knew better to even ask. Well the licensing that is being granted will eventually result in distribution to the heirs, as it should.

What right, destroy deals, not sure what you are getting at with this one?

As for your comment regarding Tidal or WB breaching, and sole purpose of putting a commission in their pockets I'm going to assume based on other comments you have made, that this comment was brought about by your antipathy for your secret lover Lonny! "Secret Lovers, that's what you are", that's Atlantic Star, I love me some Atlantic Star!!!!!

TheEquilizer said:

laurarichardson said:

If people are getting a commission for the deals that can get it is for the money. If not for the money why not just bill by the hour like most consultants?

Getting a commission is extra incentive to just grab a deal to get paid even if it means breaching contracts that are already in place which is exactly what almost happend with WB.

How about shutting down NPG Publishing and sending the admin to UMG which appears to be incapable of sending take down notices to YOUTUBE to the point of the estate of Prince Rogers Nelson having to do themselves.

How about the 4 crap shirts that UMG is selling while all over the internet people stick P's face and symbol on toilet bowls and shower curtians with not one penny of that money going to the estate.

How about the Equalizer actually not being happy that music is being licensed in a movie because I guess actually having the estate earn money is a problem when the funds are not going into the pockest of the vultures.

I am not trying to be amusing I have speaking on events that have actually occured. What right does anyone have to come in after the fact and try to destroy deals Prince had in place before he died?

If Tidal or WB breached their end of the deals a court can take a look and decide. From what we have viewed it was a chosen few who decided to try and breach these deals for the sole purpose of putting a commission in their pocket and possiblity hooking up friends and associates at UMG and Breamer.

[Edited 10/2/17 5:57am]

Would it surprise you to find out that at this very moment there is an appointee by the powers that be that gets a salary and high commission but is clueless in that role, hence no new music for us fans, but you can see Prince's likeness on a slot machine?

Most people are only aware of the fact that P entered into the 2014 deal with WB, P got his masters back, what does that really mean, under what circumstances, at what cost? If I understand correctly, there were some social justice advocates who befriended P with no music business experience who he trusted who happened to negotiate on his behalf, but the question is did they know what they were actually doing? Would we all be surprised to learn that the deal did not secure all of the rights in P's best interest? Can you say Hoodwinked, Bamboozled, Led Astray, Misinformed! " By the way, anybody seen or heard from, she's been missing in action?"

As for shutting down infringement and sending take down notices, I think that once again may fall under the responsibilities of those in charge of the estate. Would you say they are doing an awesome job, I mean they must be getting paid extremely well? Anybody want to buy a Pantone Purple and Orange striped toilet seat?

As for the 4 crap shirts and no money for the estate, that goes back to the question, what are those people in charge doing for all that money they are being paid?

To your comment regarding the The Equilizer not being happy that music is being licensed in a movie, to put it simply it's the understanding of the movie and knowing the artist. H'mmm, I wonder why it wasn't placed in Kingsman 1, that came out in 2014 right? Something tells me people knew better to even ask. Well the licensing that is being granted will eventually result in distribution to the heirs, as it should.

What right, destroy deals, not sure what you are getting at with this one?

As for your comment regarding Tidal or WB breaching, and sole purpose of putting a commission in their pockets I'm going to assume based on other comments you have made, that this comment was brought about by your antipathy for your secret lover Lonny! "Secret Lovers, that's what you are", that's Atlantic Star, I love me some Atlantic Star!!!!!

According to court documents Comerica is getting a flat rate for their work. If you are referring to Troy maybe he will actually earn his commission instead of causing lawsuits.

Most people are only aware of the fact that P entered into the 2014 deal with WB, P got his masters back, what does that really mean, under what circumstances, at what cost? If I understand correctly, there were some social justice advocates who befriended P with no music business experience who he trusted who happened to negotiate on his behalf, but the question is did they know what they were actually doing? Would we all be surprised to learn that the deal did not secure all of the rights in P's best interest? Can you say Hoodwinked, Bamboozled, Led Astray, Misinformed! " By the way, anybody seen or heard from, she's been missing in action?"

It does not matter Prince signed and agreed to the terms of the deal. Do you honestly think that WB was going to give him all those masters back at one time and not get anything out of the deal? Sometimes you have to give up something to get something. If Prince agreed to allow WB to license out the soundtracks forever so what he agreed to it and nobody put a gun to his head and made him sign.

It is ethically wrong to try and undue what he agreed to just to ferry work back to UMG a company he no longer wanted to work with.

As for the 4 crap shirts and no money for the estate, that goes back to the question, what are those people in charge doing for all that money they are being paid?

They cannot do anything regarding merchandise because a certain person put a deal together with UMG/Bravado. The new people in charge have to live with it which is unfortunate since Prince had trademarked various art work that could be used. Only the Graceland people have enough sense to use at least one of those estate owned trademarked images. If you go to Bravdo’s website and look under Prince’s name there is nothing to purchase.

To your comment regarding the The Equilizer not being happy that music is being licensed in a movie, to put it simply it's the understanding of the movie and knowing the artist. H'mmm, I wonder why it wasn't placed in Kingsman 1, that came out in 2014 right? Something tells me people knew better to even ask. Well the licensing that is being granted will eventually result in distribution to the heirs, as it should.

Once again does not matter at all about the first movie it matters now because the estate needs revenue and while Prince may have been pickey about what films the music went in there is not proof that he had a problem with violence. He had music in Scandal which has violence and a song in the Equalizer which is also a violent film and he was alive and well at the time.

What right, destroy deals, not sure what you are getting at with this one?

As for your comment regarding Tidal or WB breaching, and sole purpose of putting a commission in their pockets I'm going to assume based on other comments you have made, that this comment was brought about by your antipathy for your secret lover Lonny! "Secret Lovers, that's what you are", that's Atlantic Star, I love me some Atlantic Star!!!!!

Would it surprise you to find out that at this very moment there is an appointee by the powers that be that gets a salary and high commission but is clueless in that role, hence no new music for us fans, but you can see Prince's likeness on a slot machine?

Your comments just let everyone know you have no ability to do any critical thinking or had no idea what has been going on with the estate. I will make it easy for you to understand and then I am done with you.

1. A certain administrator tried to go around the WB deal only to have WB threaten to sue the estate.
2. A certain administrator was involved in stopping NPG Publishing from being the administrator so UMG can be the admin.
3. A certain admin has caused a lawsuit with Tidal a company Prince promoted right up until a week before his death.
4. A certain admin wanted to make the public believe that Prince never received money for his work from Tidal and was some how unaware of the business arrangements with Tidal. As if he gave music to this platform against his will. ( He had better hope that the rumors that all Tidal meeting were recorded is not true).
5. The Jobu/Tribute concert lawsuit
   
   

[Edited 10/3/17 6:30am]

laurarichardson said:

TheEquilizer said:

laurarichardson said:

According to court documents Comerica is getting a flat rate for their work. If you are referring to Troy maybe he will actually earn his commission instead of causing lawsuits.

Most people are only aware of the fact that P entered into the 2014 deal with WB, P got his masters back, what does that really mean, under what circumstances, at what cost? If I understand correctly, there were some social justice advocates who befriended P with no music business experience who he trusted who happened to negotiate on his behalf, but the question is did they know what they were actually doing? Would we all be surprised to learn that the deal did not secure all of the rights in P's best interest? Can you say Hoodwinked, Bamboozled, Led Astray, Misinformed! " By the way, anybody seen or heard from, she's been missing in action?"

It does not matter Prince signed and agreed to the terms of the deal. Do you honestly think that WB was going to give him all those masters back at one time and not get anything out of the deal? Sometimes you have to give up something to get something. If Prince agreed to allow WB to license out the soundtracks forever so what he agreed to it and nobody put a gun to his head and made him sign.

It is ethically wrong to try and undue what he agreed to just to ferry work back to UMG a company he no longer wanted to work with.

As for the 4 crap shirts and no money for the estate, that goes back to the question, what are those people in charge doing for all that money they are being paid?

They cannot do anything regarding merchandise because a certain person put a deal together with UMG/Bravado. The new people in charge have to live with it which is unfortunate since Prince had trademarked various art work that could be used. Only the Graceland people have enough sense to use at least one of those estate owned trademarked images. If you go to Bravdo’s website and look under Prince’s name there is nothing to purchase.

To your comment regarding the The Equilizer not being happy that music is being licensed in a movie, to put it simply it's the understanding of the movie and knowing the artist. H'mmm, I wonder why it wasn't placed in Kingsman 1, that came out in 2014 right? Something tells me people knew better to even ask. Well the licensing that is being granted will eventually result in distribution to the heirs, as it should.

Once again does not matter at all about the first movie it matters now because the estate needs revenue and while Prince may have been pickey about what films the music went in there is not proof that he had a problem with violence. He had music in Scandal which has violence and a song in the Equalizer which is also a violent film and he was alive and well at the time.

What right, destroy deals, not sure what you are getting at with this one?

As for your comment regarding Tidal or WB breaching, and sole purpose of putting a commission in their pockets I'm going to assume based on other comments you have made, that this comment was brought about by your antipathy for your secret lover Lonny! "Secret Lovers, that's what you are", that's Atlantic Star, I love me some Atlantic Star!!!!!

Would it surprise you to find out that at this very moment there is an appointee by the powers that be that gets a salary and high commission but is clueless in that role, hence no new music for us fans, but you can see Prince's likeness on a slot machine?

Your comments just let everyone know you have no ability to do any critical thinking or had no idea what has been going on with the estate. I will make it easy for you to understand and then I am done with you.

1. A certain administrator tried to go around the WB deal only to have WB threaten to sue the estate.
2. A certain administrator was involved in stopping NPG Publishing from being the administrator so UMG can be the admin.
3. A certain admin has caused a lawsuit with Tidal a company Prince promoted right up until a week before his death.
4. A certain admin wanted to make the public believe that Prince never received money for his work from Tidal and was some how unaware of the business arrangements with Tidal. As if he gave music to this platform against his will. ( He had better hope that the rumors that all Tidal meeting were recorded is not true).
5. The Jobu/Tribute concert lawsuit
   
   

[Edited 10/3/17 6:30am]

Lol, you and critical thinking, is that what you call what your trying to convey? Now that's really funny! I've given you some real insight, but you're lost in the weeds once again your comments reflect back to talking about a certain administrator. [Edited 10/3/17 6:53am]

You have not given me any insight because everything I have written is backed up by court documents and actually taking place right now.

I have documented facts and all you have is your opinion.

Anyone who thinks you can breach and contract because after the fact it was not in one's parties best interest is delusional.

Prince signed that contract and unless he signed it under duress it is not going anywhere. Deal with it. The same goes for any other contracts he may have had.

They are not going to be breached because some back seat driver lawyer thinks they were not good deals.

laurarichardson said:

TheEquilizer said:

laurarichardson said: Lol, you and critical thinking, is that what you call what your trying to convey? Now that's really funny! I've given you some real insight, but you're lost in the weeds once again your comments reflect back to talking about a certain administrator. [Edited 10/3/17 6:53am]

You have not given me any insight because everything I have written is backed up by court documents and actually taking place right now.

I have documented facts and all you have is your opinion.

Anyone who thinks you can breach and contract because after the fact it was not in one's parties best interest is delusional.

Prince signed that contract and unless he signed it under duress it is not going anywhere. Deal with it. The same goes for any other contracts he may have had.

They are not going to be breached because some back seat driver lawyer thinks they were not good deals.

BUT you've asserted repeatedly that a Will, another type of legal contract, COULD be breached by greedy sibs and that's WHY Prince didn't have a Will because he knew it could/would be successfully (?) challenged. Isn't this a major contradiction?

I don't even know why we are debating these issues. I am so disheartened, probably because what is most important to me (the death investigation) appears to be over. The estate settlement - I don't even care now. I am going to play my records and watch the movies and that will be it. Oh ... and if I have a spare $75K maybe buy a pair of his shoes along the way.

Bodhitheblackdog said:

laurarichardson said:

You have not given me any insight because everything I have written is backed up by court documents and actually taking place right now.

I have documented facts and all you have is your opinion.

Anyone who thinks you can breach and contract because after the fact it was not in one's parties best interest is delusional.

Prince signed that contract and unless he signed it under duress it is not going anywhere. Deal with it. The same goes for any other contracts he may have had.

They are not going to be breached because some back seat driver lawyer thinks they were not good deals.

BUT you've asserted repeatedly that a Will, another type of legal contract, COULD be breached by greedy sibs and that's WHY Prince didn't have a Will because he knew it could/would be successfully (?) challenged. Isn't this a major contradiction?

No, a will can be contested and while almost never successful it has and will continue to keep estates tied up in court.

If you breach a contract there is going to be a lawsuit and the distinct possibility that the one doing the breaching could lose the suit especially if the breaching has nothing to do with the other party holding up their end and just being breached because one party just wants to get out of the deal.

Look at what happed in the MJ Estate lawsuit with Quincy Jones. The estate did not want to honor the contract MJ had with Quincy to do the remixes because they simply did not want to pay Q.

He sued and won. Now Quincy is not doing any remixing but the estate had to pay him 9 million dollars.

Anyway WB said they would sue if the estate tried to break the contract and the contract still stands and will until the period of performance ends.

Notice that it only took the threat of a lawsuit to put a stop to the shennagins.

Notice a settelment in the Mixed Blood and Make A Wish suits.

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1Sasha said:

I don't even know why we are debating these issues. I am so disheartened, probably because what is most important to me (the death investigation) appears to be over. The estate settlement - I don't even care now. I am going to play my records and watch the movies and that will be it. Oh ... and if I have a spare $75K maybe buy a pair of his shoes along the way.

Unfortunatly, the only thing anyone cares about is money. Prince was just a big piggy bank to some people.

laurarichardson said:

1Sasha said:

I don't even know why we are debating these issues. I am so disheartened, probably because what is most important to me (the death investigation) appears to be over. The estate settlement - I don't even care now. I am going to play my records and watch the movies and that will be it. Oh ... and if I have a spare $75K maybe buy a pair of his shoes along the way.

Unfortunatly, the only thing anyone cares about is money. Prince was just a big piggy bank to some people.

You are absolutely right, LR.

TheEquilizer said:

laurarichardson said:

If people are getting a commission for the deals that can get it is for the money. If not for the money why not just bill by the hour like most consultants?

Getting a commission is extra incentive to just grab a deal to get paid even if it means breaching contracts that are already in place which is exactly what almost happend with WB.

How about shutting down NPG Publishing and sending the admin to UMG which appears to be incapable of sending take down notices to YOUTUBE to the point of the estate of Prince Rogers Nelson having to do themselves.

How about the 4 crap shirts that UMG is selling while all over the internet people stick P's face and symbol on toilet bowls and shower curtians with not one penny of that money going to the estate.

How about the Equalizer actually not being happy that music is being licensed in a movie because I guess actually having the estate earn money is a problem when the funds are not going into the pockest of the vultures.

I am not trying to be amusing I have speaking on events that have actually occured. What right does anyone have to come in after the fact and try to destroy deals Prince had in place before he died?

If Tidal or WB breached their end of the deals a court can take a look and decide. From what we have viewed it was a chosen few who decided to try and breach these deals for the sole purpose of putting a commission in their pocket and possiblity hooking up friends and associates at UMG and Breamer.

[Edited 10/2/17 5:57am]

Would it surprise you to find out that at this very moment there is an appointee by the powers that be that gets a salary and high commission but is clueless in that role, hence no new music for us fans, but you can see Prince's likeness on a slot machine?

Most people are only aware of the fact that P entered into the 2014 deal with WB, P got his masters back, what does that really mean, under what circumstances, at what cost? If I understand correctly, there were some social justice advocates who befriended P with no music business experience who he trusted who happened to negotiate on his behalf, but the question is did they know what they were actually doing? Would we all be surprised to learn that the deal did not secure all of the rights in P's best interest? Can you say Hoodwinked, Bamboozled, Led Astray, Misinformed! " By the way, anybody seen or heard from, she's been missing in action?"

As for shutting down infringement and sending take down notices, I think that once again may fall under the responsibilities of those in charge of the estate. Would you say they are doing an awesome job, I mean they must be getting paid extremely well? Anybody want to buy a Pantone Purple and Orange striped toilet seat?

As for the 4 crap shirts and no money for the estate, that goes back to the question, what are those people in charge doing for all that money they are being paid?

To your comment regarding the The Equilizer not being happy that music is being licensed in a movie, to put it simply it's the understanding of the movie and knowing the artist. H'mmm, I wonder why it wasn't placed in Kingsman 1, that came out in 2014 right? Something tells me people knew better to even ask. Well the licensing that is being granted will eventually result in distribution to the heirs, as it should.

What right, destroy deals, not sure what you are getting at with this one?

As for your comment regarding Tidal or WB breaching, and sole purpose of putting a commission in their pockets I'm going to assume based on other comments you have made, that this comment was brought about by your antipathy for your secret lover Lonny! "Secret Lovers, that's what you are", that's Atlantic Star, I love me some Atlantic Star!!!!!

What's up with referring to yourself in the 3rd person?

"To your comment regarding the The Equalizer not being happy..."

If you know something enlighten us, otherwise get off the 'you're in the know' BS.

laurarichardson said:

Bodhitheblackdog said:

BUT you've asserted repeatedly that a Will, another type of legal contract, COULD be breached by greedy sibs and that's WHY Prince didn't have a Will because he knew it could/would be successfully (?) challenged. Isn't this a major contradiction?

No, a will can be contested and while almost never successful it has and will continue to keep estates tied up in court.

If you breach a contract there is going to be a lawsuit and the distinct possibility that the one doing the breaching could lose the suit especially if the breaching has nothing to do with the other party holding up their end and just being breached because one party just wants to get out of the deal.

Look at what happed in the MJ Estate lawsuit with Quincy Jones. The estate did not want to honor the contract MJ had with Quincy to do the remixes because they simply did not want to pay Q.

He sued and won. Now Quincy is not doing any remixing but the estate had to pay him 9 million dollars.

Anyway WB said they would sue if the estate tried to break the contract and the contract still stands and will until the period of performance ends.

Notice that it only took the threat of a lawsuit to put a stop to the shennagins.

Notice a settelment in the Mixed Blood and Make A Wish suits.

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Great point, LR, thanks.

Rev said:

TheEquilizer said:

Would it surprise you to find out that at this very moment there is an appointee by the powers that be that gets a salary and high commission but is clueless in that role, hence no new music for us fans, but you can see Prince's likeness on a slot machine?

Most people are only aware of the fact that P entered into the 2014 deal with WB, P got his masters back, what does that really mean, under what circumstances, at what cost? If I understand correctly, there were some social justice advocates who befriended P with no music business experience who he trusted who happened to negotiate on his behalf, but the question is did they know what they were actually doing? Would we all be surprised to learn that the deal did not secure all of the rights in P's best interest? Can you say Hoodwinked, Bamboozled, Led Astray, Misinformed! " By the way, anybody seen or heard from, she's been missing in action?"

As for shutting down infringement and sending take down notices, I think that once again may fall under the responsibilities of those in charge of the estate. Would you say they are doing an awesome job, I mean they must be getting paid extremely well? Anybody want to buy a Pantone Purple and Orange striped toilet seat?

As for the 4 crap shirts and no money for the estate, that goes back to the question, what are those people in charge doing for all that money they are being paid?

To your comment regarding the The Equilizer not being happy that music is being licensed in a movie, to put it simply it's the understanding of the movie and knowing the artist. H'mmm, I wonder why it wasn't placed in Kingsman 1, that came out in 2014 right? Something tells me people knew better to even ask. Well the licensing that is being granted will eventually result in distribution to the heirs, as it should.

What right, destroy deals, not sure what you are getting at with this one?

As for your comment regarding Tidal or WB breaching, and sole purpose of putting a commission in their pockets I'm going to assume based on other comments you have made, that this comment was brought about by your antipathy for your secret lover Lonny! "Secret Lovers, that's what you are", that's Atlantic Star, I love me some Atlantic Star!!!!!

What's up with referring to yourself in the 3rd person?

"To your comment regarding the The Equalizer not being happy..."

If you know something enlighten us, otherwise get off the 'you're in the know' BS.

Hell Yeah!

laurarichardson said:

TheEquilizer said:

laurarichardson said:

TheEquilizer said:

So let me get this straight, everything you have written is backed up by court documents, what did you do when you got to all those redacted parts? [Edited 10/3/17 16:00pm]

Now we know you really do not know anything. Financial matters are redacted but the rest of the information is not. Do some research and come back with something other than cryptic comments.

laurarichardson said:

TheEquilizer said:

laurarichardson said:

Now we know you really do not know anything. Financial matters are redacted but the rest of the information is not. Do some research and come back with something other than cryptic comments.

Actually upon closer review there is more than just financial matters redacted. Are you selectively choosing things to support your opinion? You also used the term maybe, which says to us there is uncertainty in knowing. But again, I applaud your passion, for trying. More facts, less emotional opinion! LR says, "According to court documents Comerica is getting a flat (financial matter) rate for their work. If you are referring to Troy maybe he will actually earn his commission instead of causing lawsuits.

The flat fee was pointed out by our resident laywer on this thread. It was actually mentioned in the court docs. The only thing I mentioned that was not in the court docs was the info from the WSJ article about the rights to license for the soundtracks being forever and different albums having different period of performance dates for the license. It is the WSJ so I trust they would not have printed it if they did not have a good source and we now know that UMG backed out of the deal because they would not have had the license to all of the WB catalogue.

It is obvious that UMG would be interested in the soundtracks more so then anything.

The lawsuits that Lonnie and Breamer caused are also in the court docs.

As well as Tidal claims and the estates claims in that lawsuit.

Do some reading and come back sweetie. We got it under control on the org and Facebook pages have even more info.

TheEquilizer said:

laurarichardson said:

Now we know you really do not know anything. Financial matters are redacted but the rest of the information is not. Do some research and come back with something other than cryptic comments.

Actually upon closer review there is more than just financial matters redacted. Are you selectively choosing things to support your opinion? You also used the term maybe, which says to us there is uncertainty in knowing. But again, I applaud your passion, for trying. More facts, less emotional opinion! LR says, "According to court documents Comerica is getting a flat (financial matter) rate for their work. If you are referring to Troy maybe he will actually earn his commission instead of causing lawsuits.

"upon closer review" I'm not a lawyer, but I would think that only people sitting at the big table would have view of the contracts and the non redacted court documents. If you have this info, what the hell are doing here? Trolling fans that follow this thread in hopes of hearing as much as Prince's gift as possible. Get back to work solving the problem or getting out of the way.

"Jubliant Judas" perhaps

Norman Carthens wants a copy of all documents filed in the Probate case.

He is in prison. He claims to be a child.

There are over 2,062 pages of documents x $10 per page = $20,620 plus postage.

Judge Eide's law clerk said he could file a fee waiver but it would have to be approved by the Judge.

smfh

S&S Design claim has been settled.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Norman Carthens wants a copy of all documents filed in the Probate case.

He is in prison. He claims to be a child.

There are over 2,062 pages of documents x $10 per page = $20,620 plus postage.

Judge Eide's law clerk said he could file a fee waiver but it would have to be approved by the Judge.

smfh

Since Judge Eide has declared the heirs, I do not see how or why Norman needs the documents. He filed an heir claim in the beginning and appearantly was ruled not to be an heir.

Waste of time and effort.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

S&S Design claim has been settled.

It seems Comerica is trying to settle a lot of things, probably to reduce cost for fees and awards. Seems like they are on the right track.

nelcp777 said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Norman Carthens wants a copy of all documents filed in the Probate case.

He is in prison. He claims to be a child.

There are over 2,062 pages of documents x $10 per page = $20,620 plus postage.

Judge Eide's law clerk said he could file a fee waiver but it would have to be approved by the Judge.

smfh

Since Judge Eide has declared the heirs, I do not see how or why Norman needs the documents. He filed an heir claim in the beginning and appearantly was ruled not to be an heir.

Waste of time and effort.

He is in prison and has loads of free time.

nelcp777 said:

laurarichardson said:

1Sasha said:

I don't even know why we are debating these issues. I am so disheartened, probably because what is most important to me (the death investigation) appears to be over. The estate settlement - I don't even care now. I am going to play my records and watch the movies and that will be it. Oh ... and if I have a spare $75K maybe buy a pair of his shoes along the way.

Unfortunatly, the only thing anyone cares about is money. Prince was just a big piggy bank to some people.

Sadly that´s the only true conclusion many of us can take out of all this mess. There is lonely indeed...