Lovejunky said:

No Hologram for me... it's BS like the Undertaker cashing in for the final cent

OperatingThetan said:

Why not just render some of the unreleased concerts on 3D? Prince would likely have had no objection to that but I guess it's not such a large revenue stream.

Because while Prince was alive and had ridiculous amounts of what would become...money-making...golden-opportunities...being offered his way.

He flat out refused...like the whole 'Guitar Hero' phenomena...that HE could have very easily RULED...for instance?

[Edited 8/24/17 20:55pm]

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

Tacky people shouldn't be left in control of Prince's legacy. This is an awful idea.

LittlePurpleYoda said:

Tacky people shouldn't be left in control of Prince's legacy. This is an awful idea.

OperatingThetan said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

Because while Prince was alive and had ridiculous amounts of what would become...money-making...golden-opportunities...being offered his way.

He flat out refused...like the whole 'Guitar Hero' phenomena...that HE could have very easily RULED...for instance?

[Edited 8/24/17 20:55pm]

I agree. But I mean in preference to a hologram he definitely wouldn't have approved of. A 3D concert release seems to be more of a happy medium.

Yes, this was what I was suggesting above. The technology isn't quite there yet, but had he lived, Prince could have performed in the most intimate of environments and allowed countless people to partake of the experience. Set up a camera array next to Prince playing the piano for example, and the viewer would find themselves sitting with him as he performed. Thinking about the websites that he developed in the mid-late 90s, he seemed to like the idea of creating environments for people to explore and experience, so I'm surprised that he was so dismissive of the technology. Tools like this are only as benign or malevolent as the people using them, and it has the potential to be an interesting means of delivering artistic content.

It's not really possible to simply convert existing 2D footage into true 3D though, you need to shoot with a stereo camera (a 360 degree stereo camera array for VR).

I've converted video into a 3D mesh from pixel data before now - it's an interesting effect, but not true 3D. It yields results similar to Radiohead's “House Of Card's” video, but with much less depth:

As far as I know, when you see the MJ or Tupac holograms dancing, it's not actually them but motion capture performed by a body double and applied to a detailed 3D mesh. They then stitch the faces on, so they're a Frankenstein's monster of sorts. They always have a slightly unnerving, uncanny quality, and that's aside from the moral and philosophical questions it raises.

fen said:

OperatingThetan said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said: I agree. But I mean in preference to a hologram he definitely wouldn't have approved of. A 3D concert release seems to be more of a happy medium.

Yes, this was what I was suggesting above. The technology isn't quite there yet, but had he lived, Prince could have performed in the most intimate of environments and allowed countless people to partake of the experience. Set up a camera array next to Prince playing the piano for example, and the viewer would find themselves sitting with him as he performed. Thinking about the websites that he developed in the mid-late 90s, he seemed to like the idea of creating environments for people to explore and experience, so I'm surprised that he was so dismissive of the technology. Tools like this are only as benign or malevolent as the people using them, and it has the potential to be an interesting means of delivering artistic content.

It's not really possible to simply convert existing 2D footage into true 3D though, you need to shoot with a stereo camera (a 360 degree stereo camera array for VR).

I've converted video into a 3D mesh from pixel data before now - it's an interesting effect, but not true 3D. It yields results similar to Radiohead's “House Of Card's” video, but with much less depth:

As far as I know, when you see the MJ or Tupac holograms dancing, it's not actually them but motion capture performed by a body double and applied to a detailed 3D mesh. They then stitch the faces on, so they're a Frankenstein's monster of sorts. They always have a slightly unnerving, uncanny quality, and that's aside from the moral and philosophical questions it raises.

I believe Prince did see the Tupac hologram, and told his friends, "Please don't let them do that to me."

dumbest shit ever

sag10 said:

fen said:

As far as I know, when you see the MJ or Tupac holograms dancing, it's not actually them but motion capture performed by a body double and applied to a detailed 3D mesh. They then stitch the faces on, so they're a Frankenstein's monster of sorts. They always have a slightly unnerving, uncanny quality, and that's aside from the moral and philosophical questions it raises.

I believe Prince did see the Tupac hologram, and told his friends, "Please don't let them do that to me."

I can believe that, and he was right.

[Edited 8/25/17 11:25am]

Hey, maybe we can get Mark Anthony to be the body double!

HerecomethePurpleYoda said:

Hey, maybe we can get Mark Anthony to be the body double!

That man can’t dance for shit. Coming from a chubby, middle-aged man who's let himself go, that’s really saying something. Christ, if looks, ethnicity, size and stamp are irrelevant when it comes motion capture, even I’d be a better candidate! I say that with complete confidence, that’s how bad Mark Anthony is.

[Edited 8/25/17 13:42pm]

Only thing making me not have a strong opinion about it at the moment is that so far the stuff we thought the family were going to do hasn't turned out to be exactly how we thought they were going to do it. *fingers crossed* for the moment.

I am in the middle on this. I am not so sure that the way Prince felt in 1998 is still the way he felt almost 20 years later. It's unfortunate that we do not have a more current opinion about this from Prince. The man embraced technology so I find it hard to believe he'd still feel this way if he'd been asked about it again.

Mumio said:

Absolutely disgusting idea. Like a lot of others have said, why do this when there's so much (unseen) footage to be shown? This idea makes me really nervous about what is yet to come from the estate.

Freek99999 said:

Absolutely disgusting idea. Like a lot of others have said, why do this when there's so much (unseen) footage to be shown? This idea makes me really nervous about what is yet to come from the estate.

Don't worry. The estate arent that stupid to tarnish is image with some bs like hologram oncerts

Holograms are like watching a ghost, don't do this to Prince.

Prince as a hologram

jjam said:

No.

Too creepy.