rdhull said:

--Co-sign Thanks for posting this.

laurarichardson said:

rdhull said:

1. She is not psychologically unstable. I know her. Intermittent posts online do not make someone psychologically unstable. You guys are such laymen.

2.She hasnt invested too much in Prince, shes simply reporting what she knows and her felings like all of you do about things and situations. And you're assumong a lot with the rest you posted.

3.People who know nothing of people imvolved or psychology are so quick to label/dismiss someone as 'crazy'..it's crazy. Please stop dping that. It's disrese[ctful to people as well as stigmatizes those who are mentally ill as well.

--Co-sign Thanks for posting this.

Strikethrough. Thanks for wasting valueable org space (not).

rdhull said:

midnightmover said:

No, but I haven't met Donald Trump either and I know that he is an insecure narcissist. He telegraphs it. Similarly, Jill's hysterical ravings betray that she has invested far too much of her self image in Prince. And the truth is that Prince just saw her as another item on the payroll.

She'd be better off just letting it go, or at least just relaxing a little, but she wants everyone to endorse her deranged fantasies. The fact that they will not do so infuriates her.

btw, this has nothing to do with specific vocal parts she may have done on specific tracks. I'm not talking about that.

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1. She is not psychologically unstable. I know her. Intermittent posts online do not make someone psychologically unstable. You guys are such laymen.

2.She hasnt invested too much in Prince, shes simply reporting what she knows and her feelings like all of you do about things and situations. And you're assuming a lot with the rest you posted as shes received a degree and has her own business since her days with Prince.

3.People who know nothing of people imvolved or of psychology (beyond an intro textbook) are so quick to label/dismiss someone as 'crazy'..it's crazy. Please stop doing that. It's disresepctful to people as well as stigmatizes those who are mentally ill as well.

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But it's ok for her to call Suzan an idiot? Pot, let me introduce you to kettle.

pricetag said:

Get over it these 3 points end this debate.
[Edited 8/14/17 8:28am]

Rebeljuice said:

rdhull said:

1. She is not psychologically unstable. I know her. Intermittent posts online do not make someone psychologically unstable. You guys are such laymen.

2.She hasnt invested too much in Prince, shes simply reporting what she knows and her feelings like all of you do about things and situations. And you're assuming a lot with the rest you posted as shes received a degree and has her own business since her days with Prince.

3.People who know nothing of people imvolved or of psychology (beyond an intro textbook) are so quick to label/dismiss someone as 'crazy'..it's crazy. Please stop doing that. It's disresepctful to people as well as stigmatizes those who are mentally ill as well.

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[Edited 8/13/17 18:28pm]

But it's ok for her to call Suzan an idiot? Pot, let me introduce you to kettle.

Except in reply#44 I said "I agree she shouldnt call Susan an idiot, but should choose more careful words abouther displeasure when it comes to a person"..so please stop arguing about something that is sound overall and do better if you try to one up me. Some of you appear to want to just be 'right' ..be sure to tell your children that your busy arguing against appropriate behavior with another person on the internet. Geeze.

laurarichardson said:

This was a lot of things, darlin', but a 'debate' was not one of them.

pricetag said:

laurarichardson said:

Get over it these 3 points end this debate. [Edited 8/14/17 8:28am]

This was a lot of things, darlin', but a 'debate' was not one of them.

Your wrong deal with it.

laurarichardson said:

pricetag said:

laurarichardson said: This was a lot of things, darlin', but a 'debate' was not one of them.

Your wrong deal with it.

Deal with what? My statement that this wasn't a debate? The post from the other person? You don't even know how incoherent you are. What a mess.

pricetag said:

laurarichardson said:

Your wrong deal with it.

Deal with what? My statement that this wasn't a debate? The post from the other person? You don't even know how incoherent you are. What a mess.

Did you not type the comments below?

If nature had taken its course, Jill Jones would have disappeared into the ether. Now, with the advent of social media, we get to hear her increasingly unstable rants. What a bore.

Sounds like a toxic, bitter woman. Avoid.

Agreed. Presentation is the thing. I can only assume she doesn't want to be heard. Seriously. What's more effective towards getting important people to listen? A calm, reasoned point-of-view OR incoherent trash talk? Isn't it obvious? What a tiresome individual.

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If so you now know how foolish those comments were based on the three comments below.

1. She is not psychologically unstable. I know her. Intermittent posts online do not make someone psychologically unstable. You guys are such laymen. ( answer to your toxic nonsense)

2.She hasnt invested too much in Prince, shes simply reporting what she knows and her felings like all of you do about things and situations. And you're assumong a lot with the rest you posted.

( Backs up that you have no idea what she knows and she has a right say what she likes)

3.People who know nothing of people imvolved or psychology are so quick to label/dismiss someone as 'crazy'..it's crazy. Please stop dping that. It's disrese[ctful to people as well as stigmatizes those who are mentally ill as well.

laurarichardson said:

pricetag said:

Deal with what? My statement that this wasn't a debate? The post from the other person? You don't even know how incoherent you are. What a mess.

Did you not type the comments below?

If nature had taken its course, Jill Jones would have disappeared into the ether. Now, with the advent of social media, we get to hear her increasingly unstable rants. What a bore.

Sounds like a toxic, bitter woman. Avoid.

Agreed. Presentation is the thing. I can only assume she doesn't want to be heard. Seriously. What's more effective towards getting important people to listen? A calm, reasoned point-of-view OR incoherent trash talk? Isn't it obvious? What a tiresome individual.

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If so you now know how foolish those comments were based on the three comments below.

1. She is not psychologically unstable. I know her. Intermittent posts online do not make someone psychologically unstable. You guys are such laymen. ( answer to your toxic nonsense)

2.She hasnt invested too much in Prince, shes simply reporting what she knows and her felings like all of you do about things and situations. And you're assumong a lot with the rest you posted.

( Backs up that you have no idea what she knows and she has a right say what she likes)

3.People who know nothing of people imvolved or psychology are so quick to label/dismiss someone as 'crazy'..it's crazy. Please stop dping that. It's disrese[ctful to people as well as stigmatizes those who are mentally ill as well.

Deals with your comments about ( incoherent trash talk, toxic, bitter woman and unstable rants.)

Doesn't "deal with" it in the slightest. It just says that you think she's not unstable and you think people should be kinder (which is a riot coming from you). Now, if that's what you think is an argument, then god help you. Personally, I think she's a whack-job (have you seen the dark circles under her eyes) but at least I'm prepared to say that's what I think; and not have it constitute an argument. Deal with that. Oh, and by the way, I still have no idea why you brought Susannah into all of this. I expect you don't either.

rdhull said:

Rebeljuice said:

But it's ok for her to call Suzan an idiot? Pot, let me introduce you to kettle.

Except in reply#44 I said "I agree she shouldnt call Susan an idiot, but should choose more careful words abouther displeasure when it comes to a person"..so please stop arguing about something that is sound overall and do better if you try to one up me. Some of you appear to want to just be 'right' ..be sure to tell your children that your busy arguing against appropriate behavior with another person on the internet. Geeze.

Trying to one up you? Please... I put more effort into choosing what cereal to eat in the morning. And if you don't mind, I will tell my children what I choose to tell them, not what you "instruct" me to tell them. Now if it is ok with you, I need to move on and start being right about everything again. this distraction had me wobbling with my righteousness for a second there.

now now Boys and Girls....

why do we always have to be right ?

pricetag said:

laurarichardson said:

Did you not type the comments below?

If nature had taken its course, Jill Jones would have disappeared into the ether. Now, with the advent of social media, we get to hear her increasingly unstable rants. What a bore.

Sounds like a toxic, bitter woman. Avoid.

Agreed. Presentation is the thing. I can only assume she doesn't want to be heard. Seriously. What's more effective towards getting important people to listen? A calm, reasoned point-of-view OR incoherent trash talk? Isn't it obvious? What a tiresome individual.

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If so you now know how foolish those comments were based on the three comments below.

1. She is not psychologically unstable. I know her. Intermittent posts online do not make someone psychologically unstable. You guys are such laymen. ( answer to your toxic nonsense)

2.She hasnt invested too much in Prince, shes simply reporting what she knows and her felings like all of you do about things and situations. And you're assumong a lot with the rest you posted.

( Backs up that you have no idea what she knows and she has a right say what she likes)

3.People who know nothing of people imvolved or psychology are so quick to label/dismiss someone as 'crazy'..it's crazy. Please stop dping that. It's disrese[ctful to people as well as stigmatizes those who are mentally ill as well.

Deals with your comments about ( incoherent trash talk, toxic, bitter woman and unstable rants.)

Doesn't "deal with" it in the slightest. It just says that you think she's not unstable and you think people should be kinder (which is a riot coming from you). Now, if that's what you think is an argument, then god help you. Personally, I think she's a whack-job (have you seen the dark circles under her eyes) but at least I'm prepared to say that's what I think; and not have it constitute an argument. Deal with that. Oh, and by the way, I still have no idea why you brought Susannah into all of this. I expect you don't either.

Someone who knows her told you she is not crazy and Jill owns her own business and managed to go back to school and get an education. I doubt she is mentally unstable if she can manage all of that I doubt she is crazy. Oh and people who actually have jobs and log long hours usually do have dark circles under their eyes it is called being tired.

You should also realize calling a women crazy because you want her to shut up is as old as the hills and tired.

I brought up Susannah as a comparision. ( Why does this have to be explained to you) She has said and does things that are bat shit crazy and I do not see anyone suggesting that she is mentally ill. Jill is not selling coffee mugs and ugly ass prints. Jill is not acting as if she and Prince were best buds in the later years of his life. In fact Jill is very honest about the ups and downs of their relationship which is more than I can say for many other delusional women that are not being called crazy.

You do not like what she has to say because it is a good chance that it is all true and it does not fit the narrative in your mind because trust me if she was talking out of her ass no one would care what she has to say. Not t he Melvions and not disgruntled fans who want Prince in death to be their Sammy Lunchmeat.

Rebeljuice said:

rdhull said:

Except in reply#44 I said "I agree she shouldnt call Susan an idiot, but should choose more careful words abouther displeasure when it comes to a person"..so please stop arguing about something that is sound overall and do better if you try to one up me. Some of you appear to want to just be 'right' ..be sure to tell your children that your busy arguing against appropriate behavior with another person on the internet. Geeze.

Trying to one up you? Please... I put more effort into choosing what cereal to eat in the morning. And if you don't mind, I will tell my children what I choose to tell them, not what you "instruct" me to tell them. Now if it is ok with you, I need to move on and start being right about everything again. this distraction had me wobbling with my righteousness for a second there.

Yeah, you sound real calm and assured here chief

laurarichardson said:

This response depresses me. You talk about two people as if you know them...when you're just a fan clicking away on their keyboard out of Donkeydick, Delaware.

pricetag said:

laurarichardson said:

Someone who knows her told you she is not crazy and Jill owns her own business and managed to go back to school and get an education. I doubt she is mentally unstable if she can manage all of that I doubt she is crazy. Oh and people who actually have jobs and log long hours usually do have dark circles under their eyes it is called being tired.

You should also realize calling a women crazy because you want her to shut up is as old as the hills and tired.

I brought up Susannah as a comparision. ( Why does this have to be explained to you) She has said and does things that are bat shit crazy and I do not see anyone suggesting that she is mentally ill. Jill is not selling coffee mugs and ugly ass prints. Jill is not acting as if she and Prince were best buds in the later years of his life. In fact Jill is very honest about the ups and downs of their relationship which is more than I can say for many other delusional women that are not being called crazy.

You do not like what she has to say because it is a good chance that it is all true and it does not fit the narrative in your mind because trust me if she was talking out of her ass no one would care what she has to say. Not t he Melvions and not disgruntled fans who want Prince in death to be their Sammy Lunchmeat.

This response depresses me. You talk about two people as if you know them...when you're just a fan clicking away on their keyboard out of Donkeydick, Delaware.

You must not have any mirrors in your house.

rdhull said:

pricetag said:

laurarichardson said: This response depresses me. You talk about two people as if you know them...when you're just a fan clicking away on their keyboard out of Donkeydick, Delaware.

You must not have any mirrors in your house.

In my brief time spent on Prince.org, I've noticed that most of the commentary here comes from a very small number of people (maybe five/six?). The opinions of these people cannot be taken seriously. They're out of the game. Their opinions of Prince and the rest, by definition, is unable to be objective when so much of their time (their whole waking lives?) is defined by him. Go outside for a bit, see what happens.

laurarichardson said:

Someone who knows her told you she is not crazy and Jill owns her own business and managed to go back to school and get an education. I doubt she is mentally unstable if she can manage all of that I doubt she is crazy. Oh and people who actually have jobs and log long hours usually do have dark circles under their eyes it is called being tired.

You should also realize calling a women crazy because you want her to shut up is as old as the hills and tired.

I brought up Susannah as a comparision. ( Why does this have to be explained to you) She has said and does things that are bat shit crazy and I do not see anyone suggesting that she is mentally ill. Jill is not selling coffee mugs and ugly ass prints. Jill is not acting as if she and Prince were best buds in the later years of his life. In fact Jill is very honest about the ups and downs of their relationship which is more than I can say for many other delusional women that are not being called crazy.

You do not like what she has to say because it is a good chance that it is all true and it does not fit the narrative in your mind because trust me if she was talking out of her ass no one would care what she has to say. Not t he Melvions and not disgruntled fans who want Prince in death to be their Sammy Lunchmeat.

Which includes Jill saying he looked like Little Richard with his clown makeup, and insinuating he was physically abusive toward women? There are many more despicable things she said about P while P was alive and I dont think I would categorize them as "ups and downs."

wait...hold up..... how can ANYONE speak ANY ill will about a woman so amazingly beautiful???... any negative portrayal of Jill Jones is an act of blasphemy...

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

--She was upset with him and he was upset with her so yes they had ups and downs.

pricetag said:

If my responses depresses you then should get a life. I am repeating what is known by anyone that can read or think. I am not spending my time psycho analyzing people via the Internet.

pricetag said:

rdhull said:

You must not have any mirrors in your house.

In my brief time spent on Prince.org,

not brief enough

pricetag signed up to troll...look at his posting history..why he isnt banned is beyond me

RJOrion said:

wait...hold up..... how can ANYONE speak ANY ill will about a woman so amazingly beautiful???... any negative portrayal of Jill Jones is an act of blasphemy...

laurarichardson said:

pricetag said:

This response depresses me. You talk about two people as if you know them...when you're just a fan clicking away on their keyboard out of Donkeydick, Delaware.

If my responses depresses you then should get a life. I am repeating what is known by anyone that can read or think. I am not spending my time psycho analyzing people via the Internet.

Funnily enough this didn't do the trick. You still depress me.

rdhull said:

pricetag signed up to troll...look at his posting history..why he isnt banned is beyond me

RJOrion said:

wait...hold up..... how can ANYONE speak ANY ill will about a woman so amazingly beautiful???... any negative portrayal of Jill Jones is an act of blasphemy...

What number are you up to now? Post 5 billion and 21? Like I said, commentary in this place feels dominated by a shady cabal of sycophants. Someone has to put a stop to it.

[Edited 8/15/17 20:14pm]

KoolEaze said:

Jill´s reaction are often a bit over the top but I don´t mind and I like that she speaks her mind. It is very refreshing to see someone be so open and honest, even if I don´t agree with everything she says.

I think she was treated very unfairly in the past and she should make sure she gets compensated for her work.

Don´t get me wrong, I don´t dislike those people that she speaks out against but I can clearly see where she´s coming from and can relate to most of what she says. And she is one of my all time favorite associated artists.

A little bit of rage every now and then is not such a bad thing. She brings some balance to the Prince universe.

NotACleverName said:

pricetag said: This woman has some serious rage that appears to be bubbling up to the surface in ways not complimentary to her very self. I don't berate anyone their opinion but one can get a point across w/o attacking another. ON PURPLE RAIN DELUXE EDITION CREDITS NPG And Warner Bros Records you are on notice. You liberally think its ok to use someones voice and NOT CREDIT them on their work? How much more revisionist history and alternative facts do you think you will continue to create about Prince’s music, songs and life? Do YOU EVEN KNOW WHO IS REALLY SINGING ON THOSE SONGS? I have a journal if you are interested. How long do you guys want to keep fucking me? Has it really felt that good to you people? I never signed anything. And frankly they do not have permission to have my voice on it. My contract with Prince was not until very very much later than these songs recording dates. I also would say that if whomever went in and reviewed the mixes, the engineers usually wrote down on the reports who were in attendance on these sessions. It was usually part of the job. To be truthful, in the early days Prince was pretty good about writing that down or Peggy or Susan. Its their job essentially. The tracks also indicate. Yes its a lot of homework, but thats what doing research is about I think. I am very pissed off. Livid. ON SUSAN ROGERS She’s an idiot. Now people should reevaluate her little fucking know all assumptions and bullshit observations with her conjecture. Truthfully Prince barely talked to her. She was green. He worked her like a dog and I see that clearly she wasn’t doing her job. Useless. And for the record Wally isn’t THAT great of a song and IT WASNT ERASED. She needed to be working rather than pontificating about the interpersonal relationships she knew NOTHING about! That woman has been so mf ng busy whitewashing the life and music of Prince I can’t even see straight. I wish I knew who she thought was doing the top line in “We can fuck”? Cause it sure wasn’t Lisa Coleman! No disrespect but damn. These people just pick up dust themselves off and go do a fucking lecture on Prince and spread more misinformation like a fucking STD. Everyone knows I was THE REAL SLAVE. Lets not get it twisted. Fuck all of em." -Jill Jones , 2017

Ok so your voice is on a few songs, however your voice doesnt hold up in the Library Of Congress as a publisher. Henceforth if this was an issue, this is something that she should have brought up to Prince a LONG time ago.

pricetag said:

rdhull said:

pricetag signed up to troll...look at his posting history..why he isnt banned is beyond me

What number are you up to now? Post 5 billion and 21? Like I said, commentary in this place feels dominated by a shady cabal of sycophants. Someone has to put a stop to it.

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and each of those billion and 21 (now 22) were given with that same love and thrusts of the Lady Cab Driver sex pumps..I gave my all

rdhull said:

pricetag said:

What number are you up to now? Post 5 billion and 21? Like I said, commentary in this place feels dominated by a shady cabal of sycophants. Someone has to put a stop to it.

[Edited 8/15/17 20:14pm]

and each of those billion and 21 (now 22) were given with that same love and thrusts of the Lady Cab Driver sex pumps..I gave my all

Someone should have told you how worn those heels look.

pricetag said:

laurarichardson said:

pricetag said: If my responses depresses you then should get a life. I am repeating what is known by anyone that can read or think. I am not spending my time psycho analyzing people via the Internet.

Funnily enough this didn't do the trick. You still depress me.

Then go get on your meds.

paisleypark4 said:

KoolEaze said:

Jill´s reaction are often a bit over the top but I don´t mind and I like that she speaks her mind. It is very refreshing to see someone be so open and honest, even if I don´t agree with everything she says.

I think she was treated very unfairly in the past and she should make sure she gets compensated for her work.

Don´t get me wrong, I don´t dislike those people that she speaks out against but I can clearly see where she´s coming from and can relate to most of what she says. And she is one of my all time favorite associated artists.

A little bit of rage every now and then is not such a bad thing. She brings some balance to the Prince universe.

Ok so your voice is on a few songs, however your voice doesnt hold up in the Library Of Congress as a publisher. Henceforth if this was an issue, this is something that she should have brought up to Prince a LONG time ago.

Lies are lies and the Melvoin and Coleman have been flapping their lips too long. If she has a log she was on more than a few songs and should she get credit for her work. If the estate gets in bed with W&L only I suspect all hell is going to break loose.

You cannot erase people and try to whitewash the past to suit your purpose. Londell tried to just that and it did not work out so well.