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Reply #91 posted 07/16/17 3:27am
imago |
EddieC said:
imago said:
I like it. It made my tits milk, even though I’m a dude. I’m not doubting it is his most personal song. But, it just doesn’t sound like that. I love U But I Don’t Trust U Anymore from Rave has a far more confessional feel. Wally is great because it has that Sign Of the Times era feel to me. Gotta go. I need to pat my tits with Kleenex. [Edited 7/15/17 19:45pm]
I Love U But I Don't Trust U Anymore always felt more like a pose to me. Not bad, it just didn't ever really strike me.
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Reply #92 posted 07/16/17 3:36am
BlueShakooo
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Everytime he sings "what am I gonna do?" (on 2:31),I'm thinking of "Poom Poom"... |
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Reply #93 posted 07/16/17 3:41am
Hamad |
Man, how can anybody not like this song? Listen to this again without the backhistory, assumptions & expectations aside. Such a bittersweet piece of music |
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Reply #94 posted 07/16/17 3:51am
Hamad |
djThunderfunk said:
HatrinaHaterwitz said:
Duh, I get that but in 1991 he was coming from Graffiti Bridge going into Diamonds and Pearls and to me, musically speaking, it just doesn't seem to fit. It sounds more to me like what he was doing in 1986 going into 1987.
Fair enough, but, it's not from 86/87, whether it sounds like it or not.
As for her comparison to the original, she says it has similar lyrics but different instruments and a different tone.
This is from The Vault site:
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Reply #95 posted 07/16/17 4:12am
robertgeorge |
Astonishing
Worth the wait. An amazing song, that for me is a classic. Worth waiting for. It certainly has that emotional resonance.
Thank you, Prince, and of course the uploaders. |
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Reply #96 posted 07/16/17 4:19am
Splanknasty2 |
The song's a classic. Regardless of what we were expecting, or what it's supposed to represent, it's completely fantastic. I keep reading peoplel saying they're underwhelmed, but if it had been on any album (and I can't think which it might have fitted, Sign 'o' the Times maybe? Parade?) it would be a stand out tune. It's brilliant. |
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Reply #97 posted 07/16/17 4:37am
Thewooh |
Not disappointed. Great song. This is Adonis&Bathsheba and Crucial territory, which I personally love. |
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Reply #98 posted 07/16/17 4:46am
thisisreece
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Whether or not it has the emotional impact of the version Susan Rodgers speaks of, this is still an incredible song. For me, it lives up to the hype.
As I said in the other thread - before it got deleted? - this song succeeds in being totally bombastic and personal at the same time. The story-telling is original and heartfelt. The 'Oh my la-di-da' hits a nerve. Prince's singing is full of emotion. The music is pure passion.
Some of the outtakes have been a bit of a dissappointment recently. Many of them have been nice, but far from essential. From the sample, I'd expected this to be the same, but in fact it surpasses my expectations of what the rerecorded 'inferior' Wally would be. It's songs like this that remind me why I'm a Prince fan. Hundalasiliah! |
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Reply #99 posted 07/16/17 4:59am
cbarnes3121 |
this version thats out now is not the version i heard and have from back in the early 90. the version i have doesnt have horns and is very stripped down and simple and the friend that sent it to me called it wallys galsses |
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Reply #100 posted 07/16/17 5:08am
tab32792 |
djThunderfunk said:
OnlyNDaUsa said:
sulls said:
"Oh my, la-di-daaa"
i mean in addition to that? she is giving a talk right now! maybe it will come up and she will listen to it
Susan Rogers said that regardless of what the date on the file says, it was recorded after '87 for sure. She thinks it's from 1991, but could not say for certain. She is certain it's NOT 1986 and it's after she left in 1987.
[Edited 7/15/17 22:28pm] His guitar didn't sound like that anymore in 91. So I highly doubt that |
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Reply #101 posted 07/16/17 6:32am
leadline |
The song is definitely not complete. It starts abruptly as if we are missing the beginning of the song.
[Edited 7/16/17 6:46am] "You always get the dream that you deserve, from what you value the most" -Prince 2013 |
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Reply #102 posted 07/16/17 6:34am
OnlyNDaUsa
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Thewooh said:
Not disappointed. Great song. This is Adonis&Bathsheba and Crucial territory, which I personally love.
for sure "Keep on shilling for Big Pharm!" |
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Reply #103 posted 07/16/17 6:35am
OnlyNDaUsa
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BlueShakooo said:
Everytime he sings "what am I gonna do?" (on 2:31),I'm thinking of "Poom Poom"...
Didn't Cat ask Wally that same question in the SOTT movie? "Keep on shilling for Big Pharm!" |
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Reply #104 posted 07/16/17 7:32am
HatrinaHaterwi tz |
OnlyNDaUsa said:
BlueShakooo said:
Everytime he sings "what am I gonna do?" (on 2:31),I'm thinking of "Poom Poom"...
Didn't Cat ask Wally that same question in the SOTT movie?
Right before ICNTTPOYM.
I knew from the start that I loved you with all my heart. |
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Reply #105 posted 07/16/17 7:51am
Mindbells9
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tab32792 said: djThunderfunk said:
OnlyNDaUsa said:
sulls said:
"Oh my, la-di-daaa"
i mean in addition to that? she is giving a talk right now! maybe it will come up and she will listen to it
Susan Rogers said that regardless of what the date on the file says, it was recorded after '87 for sure. She thinks it's from 1991, but could not say for certain. She is certain it's NOT 1986 and it's after she left in 1987.
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His guitar didn't sound like that anymore in 91. So I highly doubt that
Wally has the actual cassette Prince gave to him back in 1987. It has this version on it. He played it for me about 10 years ago when I interviewed him. He told me the story behind it and I held the cassette in my hands. This version os definitely not from 1991. It's the re-record from 86/87. Wally can confirm this. [Edited 7/16/17 7:52am] |
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Reply #106 posted 07/16/17 8:28am
fakir |
Check the bridge...Some funny voices too... The Ignorant asserts,The learned doubts,The wise thinks.
Aristotle |
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Reply #107 posted 07/16/17 8:40am
Revolution81
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Mindbells9 said:
tab32792 said:
His guitar didn't sound like that anymore in 91. So I highly doubt that
Wally has the actual cassette Prince gave to him back in 1987. It has this version on it. He played it for me about 10 years ago when I interviewed him. He told me the story behind it and I held the cassette in my hands. This version os definitely not from 1991. It's the re-record from 86/87. Wally can confirm this. [Edited 7/16/17 7:52am]
Bitch this ain't the movies |
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Reply #108 posted 07/16/17 8:44am
EddieC |
rdhull said:
I'm going to need some of that titty milk because I don't feel it yet
I'm sorry, but this comment, combined with your avatar--I just can't. This is too much. |
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Reply #109 posted 07/16/17 8:48am
EddieC |
imago said:
EddieC said:
I Love U But I Don't Trust U Anymore always felt more like a pose to me. Not bad, it just didn't ever really strike me.
lawd, now do you insert images in iOS? [Edited 7/16/17 3:33am]
What on earth happened while I was gone? What are you talking about? |
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Reply #110 posted 07/16/17 8:50am
EddieC |
Mindbells9 said:
tab32792 said:
His guitar didn't sound like that anymore in 91. So I highly doubt that
Wally has the actual cassette Prince gave to him back in 1987. It has this version on it. He played it for me about 10 years ago when I interviewed him. He told me the story behind it and I held the cassette in my hands. This version os definitely not from 1991. It's the re-record from 86/87. Wally can confirm this. [Edited 7/16/17 7:52am]
So where's the orger who works out with Wally? Who was that? |
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Reply #111 posted 07/16/17 8:55am
CandyCool |
EddieC said:
Mindbells9 said: tab32792 said:
His guitar didn't sound like that anymore in 91. So I highly doubt that Wally has the actual cassette Prince gave to him back in 1987. It has this version on it. He played it for me about 10 years ago when I interviewed him. He told me the story behind it and I held the cassette in my hands. This version os definitely not from 1991. It's the re-record from 86/87. Wally can confirm this. [Edited 7/16/17 7:52am]
So where's the orger who works out with Wally? Who was that? Datdude http://prince.org/msg/7/443411 |
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Reply #112 posted 07/16/17 9:09am
purplerabbitho le |
I like it but think it would probably be a bit better without the horns. . I imagine the original was quite moving but the slightly tongue in cheek attitude of this version doesnt drown out the underlining sadness and I do think its a geniunely great melody with some honest lyrics.
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Reply #114 posted 07/16/17 11:35am
babynoz |
rdhull said:
I'm going to need some of that titty milk because I don't feel it yet
Me either. I actually prefer Cold Coffee and Cocaine or Me Touch Myself.
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Reply #115 posted 07/16/17 11:49am
Splanknasty2 |
It's clearly closer to 'Adore' than 'Insatiable'. I don't believe for a second that a tune with Leeds and Bliss and those horns on it is from the 1990s.
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Reply #116 posted 07/16/17 12:06pm
JellyJam |
fen said:
SchlomoThaHomo said:
Lives up to the hype I'd say. Can't imagine what the allegedly superior deleted version sounded like when this one sounds so great.
Yes, this version still retains some of the sadness, honesty and sly self-ridicule that Susan spoke of (the tiger impression preceding “I’m on the prowl tonight”). Musically, it’s as though the structure is constantly of the verge of collapse, only to be rescued by those sweeping, emotional musical swells. It’s quite remarkable. I imagine that the original lyrics were simply more brutal and unflinching – Prince acknowledging how ridiculous he appeared to himself at that moment.
Superb description.
Love this track, it's really growing on me.
Some very interesting leaks going on right now... |
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Reply #117 posted 07/16/17 12:18pm
morningsong |
I like it ok. Glad to finally hear it. |
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Reply #118 posted 07/16/17 4:13pm
BoraBora |
I have to be honest..... in my opinion this is one of the times in which the myth surpasses the real thing.
If released back in the time in SOTT, I think "Wally" would be regarded now as one of the lesser songs of the album.
Nice little song, but not a lost masterpiece and surely nothing deserving the fuss of all these years. We have many many better P songs, obviously official released tracks but also unreleased outtakes.
Just my opinion.
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Reply #119 posted 07/16/17 4:21pm
love2thenines2 003 |
BoraBora said:
I have to be honest..... in my opinion this is one of the times in which the myth surpasses the real thing.
If released back in the time in SOTT, I think "Wally" would be regarded now as one of the lesser songs of the album.
Nice little song, but not a lost masterpiece and surely nothing deserving the fuss of all these years. We have many many better P songs, obviously official released tracks but also unreleased outtakes.
Just my opinion.
MY OPINION 2...nice one but not a winner as one of his best ones! |
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