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Thread started 06/26/17 12:51am

thedance

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Prince singing.. "it's in his -will- I've read it.." (Facedown), shocking P forgot a will himself..

Please note, the Face Down-video is kind offensive now.. "dead like Elvis" sad sad



However, P is singing
: " its' in his will I read it " eek





^ great song, here is the short + rare "Acoustic" (A Capella) version, from the vinyl 12"...... heart

Please.................... any positive comments are welcome?


- it is a bit strange about the missing will, isn't it.. question

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Reply #1 posted 06/26/17 1:18am

TheEnglishGent

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Prince was married to Mayte when he sang that. I was under the impression that Mayte said he had a will while they were married? This also isn't the only time he's sung aboout a will either is it? I'm certain he's mentioned them a few times.

But yeah, completely crazy that he didn't have one.

RIP sad
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Reply #2 posted 06/26/17 1:55am

thedance

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thanks, for the reply EnglishGent.. about P & Mayte..

Yeah Prince did not derserve all that turmoil, after his sad passing..

whatever, maybe we (fans) should not think too much, better to ignorre it.. (turmoil in the press etc..)..

but I mean, it is strange, still - about the missing will..?

Everything would have been easier, if the will had been made.

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Reply #3 posted 06/26/17 8:43am

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TheEnglishGent said:


Prince was married to Mayte when he sang that. I was under the impression that Mayte said he had a will while they were married? This also isn't the only time he's sung aboout a will either is it? I'm certain he's mentioned them a few times.

But yeah, completely crazy that he didn't have one.


--He had an LLC and he had contracts for his music with WB and Tidal. He would have had to get rid of any will with his ex-wives involved immediately after the divorces and I believe he did not draft another one because he wanted to go with LLC and contracts to handle license and distrubution for the catalog. If the contracts are as complicated as media reports he did it on purpose to make sure only WB has an interest in the material. While I think they did a shitty job with the marketing and packaging they did get two out in a year and if he had not signed that deal with them and Tidal there would be much less revenue coming in to the estate. I think he saw what happened with JB and Ray Charles estate and went in a different direction.
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Reply #4 posted 06/26/17 9:00am

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Well if he did have a will as Mayte said then wouldn't that still stand today unless it was superseded by another one OR he specifically requested it be destroyed? If he did make such a request then surely someone would have a record of that?!

It's very odd, particularly in light of the fact he was always so legal over everything. Even though you could argue he was in denial about ageing etc and didn't want to think about these things, if he was ill long term as everyone keeps alluding to then surely he would have made plans?

I can't see him happy about WB doing what they like with his vault, nor cat fights in the family over his estate. Unless he really was very spiritual and the things left behind on earth didn't concern him anymore and so left them for others to resolve?

But that sounds out of character to me, bearing in mind he liked to keep a tight grip on things.

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Reply #5 posted 06/26/17 9:24am

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TheFreakerFantastic said:

Well if he did have a will as Mayte said then wouldn't that still stand today unless it was superseded by another one OR he specifically requested it be destroyed? If he did make such a request then surely someone would have a record of that?!

It's very odd, particularly in light of the fact he was always so legal over everything. Even though you could argue he was in denial about ageing etc and didn't want to think about these things, if he was ill long term as everyone keeps alluding to then surely he would have made plans?

I can't see him happy about WB doing what they like with his vault, nor cat fights in the family over his estate. Unless he really was very spiritual and the things left behind on earth didn't concern him anymore and so left them for others to resolve?

But that sounds out of character to me, bearing in mind he liked to keep a tight grip on things.

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He got rid of any will that his wives were in and do not believe the media reports that he never had a will or attorneys.

There is a record of wills that he had that were removed when got those divorces. Once again no one put a gun to his head and made him sign those deals with WB. His family can do very little about these deals if courts find them valid and his family could have contested a will and kept things tied up in court forever just like the James Brown and Ray Charles both artist had wills and family memeber or going againt their wishes and destroying the value of their estate with 10 year court battles.

I think Prince still has a tight grip on things with very complicated contracts and putting his family members and greedy lawyers in a position of not being able to do anything about it

I do not think he cared about the money as it does appear he gave a lot of it away to charities or just out of his pocket to people.

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Reply #6 posted 06/26/17 9:28am

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We still don't know for a fact that he did forget. That is just what we have been told.

Mayte confirmed the existance of several wills in the 90's, whether he had one now or not, who knows, but it does show he had a track record for wanting things to be in order upon his passing, at least back then.

The discerning person who knows what Prince is all about would have to agree that he would not leave this all up to chance. Prince was no idiot.


[Edited 6/26/17 9:30am]

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Reply #7 posted 06/26/17 9:29am

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laurarichardson said:

TheFreakerFantastic said:

Well if he did have a will as Mayte said then wouldn't that still stand today unless it was superseded by another one OR he specifically requested it be destroyed? If he did make such a request then surely someone would have a record of that?!

It's very odd, particularly in light of the fact he was always so legal over everything. Even though you could argue he was in denial about ageing etc and didn't want to think about these things, if he was ill long term as everyone keeps alluding to then surely he would have made plans?

I can't see him happy about WB doing what they like with his vault, nor cat fights in the family over his estate. Unless he really was very spiritual and the things left behind on earth didn't concern him anymore and so left them for others to resolve?

But that sounds out of character to me, bearing in mind he liked to keep a tight grip on things.

[Edited 6/26/17 9:07am]

I do not think he cared about the money as it does appear he gave a lot of it away to charities or just out of his pocket to people.

forget about the money, what about the legacy of his children..is songs? surely he must have cared about that

"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #8 posted 06/26/17 9:31am

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I do not think he forgot anything. He sent out the pl ans for Paisley which according to his wished put in place. He sat up his LLC which at this point has not be dismantled. He had his deals with Tidal and WB. It is obvious he was winding things done and possible that he made have run out of time to tie up a few loose ends but I do not think he forgot anything.

leadline said:

We still don't know for a fact that he did forget. That is just what we have been told.

Mayte confirmed the existance of several wills in the 90's, whether he had one now or not, who knows, but it does show he had a track record for wanting things to be in order upon his passing, at least back then.




[Edited 6/26/17 9:29am]

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Reply #9 posted 06/26/17 10:25am

precioux

thedance said:

Please note, the Face Down-video is kind offensive now.. "dead like Elvis" sad sad



However, P is singing
: " its' in his will I read it " eek





^ great song, here is the short + rare "Acoustic" (A Capella) version, from the vinyl 12"...... heart

Please.................... any positive comments are welcome?


- it is a bit strange about the missing will, isn't it.. question



Nevermind the eeriness of Graceland Holdings now running PP. eek


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Reply #10 posted 06/27/17 8:58am

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rdhull said:

laurarichardson said:

I do not think he cared about the money as it does appear he gave a lot of it away to charities or just out of his pocket to people.

forget about the money, what about the legacy of his children..is songs? surely he must have cared about that

They are in the LLC with a license and distrubution deal already in place with WB. The estate owns the master tapes.

If rumors are true the contract with WB is complicated with multiple end and start dates for different albums and with the estate owning the masters who is going to be interested in the catalogue and who wants to just license if you can't get the masters and who wants the masters if you can not license.

These contracts can just be broken because Prince died Old Lonnie has found that out the hard way.

I do not believe these contracts were structured in this matter for no reason. I believe Prince knew his days were numbered and wanted to make sure everything did not get sold off by his sibs. Who once they inheirt everything they are free to do so. The contracts will make it extremely difficult to do since you cannot sell somehing if no one wants to buy it.

I think we will find out more about his reasons when and if the Tidal suit goes to trial. Tidal is claiming someone had Power of Attorney to sign documents. I cannot see Prince giving anyone POA unless something was seriously wrong.

I also saw in the court docs that Pheadra is trying to get idemification for something she did.

[Edited 6/27/17 9:01am]

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Reply #11 posted 06/27/17 9:43am

annalizer

thedance said:

Please note, the Face Down-video is kind offensive now.. "dead like Elvis" sad sad



However, P is singing
: " its' in his will I read it " eek





^ great song, here is the short + rare "Acoustic" (A Capella) version, from the vinyl 12"..... heart

Please..... any positive comments are welcome?


- it is a bit strange about the missing will, isn't it.. question



You might be correct, although it wouldn't surprise me if since he refers to the Devil and, possibly, "will" meaning Gods will, then "I read it" meaning the Bible. Idk, just a thought with the issue with WB, good v evil, during his spiritual journey at the time.
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Reply #12 posted 06/27/17 10:09am

leecaldon

He also talks about a will in Colonized Mind.

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Reply #13 posted 06/29/17 1:47am

TheEnglishGent

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leecaldon said:

He also talks about a will in Colonized Mind.

That's the one I couldn't think of, thank you!

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Reply #14 posted 06/29/17 3:29am

FlyOnTheWall

I will never believe that Prince had no last will and testament.

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Reply #15 posted 07/03/17 8:47am

leecaldon

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I will never believe that Prince had no last will and testament.

So how is it possible that no one knows of the existence of one.

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Reply #16 posted 07/03/17 1:33pm

rdhull

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FlyOnTheWall said:

I will never believe that Prince had no last will and testament.

Believe it.

"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #17 posted 07/03/17 3:41pm

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leecaldon said:

He also talks about a will in Colonized Mind.


Not to mention he wrote a song called I Will









LOOK I'M JUST SAYIN'
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Reply #18 posted 07/03/17 3:50pm

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leecaldon said:[quote]



FlyOnTheWall said:


I will never believe that Prince had no last will and testament.




So how is it possible that no one knows of the existence of one.

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Could have been destroyed on purpose by someone who would benefit from it not existing...
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Reply #19 posted 07/03/17 4:19pm

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laurarichardson said:

I do not think he forgot anything. He sent out the pl ans for Paisley which according to his wished put in place. He sat up his LLC which at this point has not be dismantled. He had his deals with Tidal and WB. It is obvious he was winding things done and possible that he made have run out of time to tie up a few loose ends but I do not think he forgot anything.


Agreed.

Welcome to "the org", Mumio…they can have you, but I'll have your love in the end nod
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Reply #20 posted 07/03/17 4:23pm

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So, if all things were set in place, why all the publicized estate drama?

"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #21 posted 07/03/17 4:37pm

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The joke of the lyric is that "Prince" is dead and prince is carrying out his wishes.



"It's in his will. I read it. Shoot to kill. He said it. To all those who know the number and don't call...fuck all y'all"

How people take that as sign Prince actually had a will is beyond me.

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Reply #22 posted 07/04/17 5:07am

thedance

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rdhull said:

So, if all things were set in place, why all the publicized estate drama?

Good question..



thanks... wink

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Reply #23 posted 07/04/17 6:36am

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thedance said:

rdhull said:

So, if all things were set in place, why all the publicized estate drama?

Good question..



thanks... wink

Because things were not even vaguely set in place. Did he really intend for a huge portion of his estate to go on unnecessary tax? Did he really intend for there to be a spat that lasted more than a year over who will inherit his estate? The Tidal deal does not seem to have been in any kind of watertight contract.

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Reply #24 posted 07/04/17 6:38am

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My mom doesn't even believe he didn't have a will, and she's not even a fan.

Don't hate your neighbors. Hate the media that tells you to hate your neighbors.
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Reply #25 posted 07/04/17 6:38am

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I think we all should just be glad that he didn't leave a will naming the Jehovas Witnesses as inherits...

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Reply #26 posted 07/04/17 6:47am

BlueShakooo

djThunderfunk said:

My mom doesn't even believe he didn't have a will, and she's not even a fan.

When Michael Jackson was asked (I think in 2002) how he wants to be buried he said something like:

"I don't ever want to be buried. I would like to live forever".

I think he just didn't want to think about dying.

I read that Michael only left a will, because it was demanded by the corporation that wanted to set up the last shows with him....

So maybe Prince was just a very optimistic man...

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Reply #27 posted 07/04/17 7:02am

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thedance said:

Please note, the Face Down-video is kind offensive now.. "dead like Elvis" sad sad



However, P is singing: " its' in his will I read it " eek





^ great song, here is the short + rare "Acoustic" (A Capella) version, from the vinyl 12"...... heart

Please.................... any positive comments are welcome?


- it is a bit strange about the missing will, isn't it.. question

.

Don't forget that Prince was a huge Elvis fan as a kid, and definitely pulled quite a few Elvis inspired moves onstage.

"He's a musician's musician..."
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