MendesCity said:

So...I know I just said on another thread it was hard to imagine complaining about this release, but finally got to DVD. I'd never seen it, so I'm glad to have done so, but yeah, the quality is absolute garbage. Surely, there are higher quality concert vids from this era?

Also, the middle of this show was a pretentious snooze - made me not feel so bad that I didn't see this tour when I was 13

All that said, it's almost all worth it for those last two numbers. I never thought I'd enjoy another performance of Purple Rain, but that was about as close to a religious experience as I've ever had.

that pretentious shit worked when I was a teenager, when I got to be 19, 20, with a real job, not so much.

Don't feel like searching through the whole thread, but what's with the poorly mixed "1999" backing vocals towards the end of that song? Who was that, Fink or Bobby Z or someone else? It's so hilariously loud in the mix and it sounds awful

mbdtyler said:

Don't feel like searching through the whole thread, but what's with the poorly mixed "1999" backing vocals towards the end of that song? Who was that, Fink or Bobby Z or someone else? It's so hilariously loud in the mix and it sounds awful

it was always like that, so it was done live, ya, sounds pretty bad, i think it's mark but it might be fink.

I wonder if that cheeky little kid in the show is still around in the Prince community. Is he on this page?

embmmusic said:

I wonder if that cheeky little kid in the show is still around in the Prince community. Is he on this page?

i wondered about that too, i doubt he's here, he was probably related to someone in the camp, little fat fuck.

embmmusic said:

I wonder if that cheeky little kid in the show is still around in the Prince community. Is he on this page?

i wonder if that is the same kid mentioned in the 1985 rolling stone interview?

I finally popped it in today. I almost turned it right off, as the sound and visuals are such trash. But Prince's performance kept me from doing so. I didn't end up finishing it though.

I wonder if a full concert of that MD show, which the I Would Die 4 U and Baby I'm A Star videos are sourced from, exists, and what kind of state it is in.

SchlomoThaHomo said:

I finally popped it in today. I almost turned it right off, as the sound and visuals are such trash. But Prince's performance kept me from doing so. I didn't end up finishing it though.

I wonder if a full concert of that MD show, which the I Would Die 4 U and Baby I'm A Star videos are sourced from, exists, and what kind of state it is in.

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The sound is "trash"? BEG TO DIFFER

CAL3 said:

SchlomoThaHomo said:

I finally popped it in today. I almost turned it right off, as the sound and visuals are such trash. But Prince's performance kept me from doing so. I didn't end up finishing it though.

I wonder if a full concert of that MD show, which the I Would Die 4 U and Baby I'm A Star videos are sourced from, exists, and what kind of state it is in.

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The sound is "trash"? BEG TO DIFFER

Yea. I thought the vocal sounded kind of muddy from the very first word Prince utters, and it didn't get much better from there. To be fair, I haven't played the original in eons, so maybe it sounds better than that. But I'm used to the sound of my SOTT DVD, and it's not even close to that. Even the SOTT VHS sounds better.

OnlyNDaUsa said:

embmmusic said:

I wonder if that cheeky little kid in the show is still around in the Prince community. Is he on this page?

i wonder if that is the same kid mentioned in the 1985 rolling stone interview?

refresh my memory?

PeteSilas said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

i wonder if that is the same kid mentioned in the 1985 rolling stone interview?

refresh my memory?

it just mentions a kid waving to him like it was no big thing...

OnlyNDaUsa said:

PeteSilas said:

refresh my memory?

it just mentions a kid waving to him like it was no big thing...

i'll have to check the interview.

SchlomoThaHomo said:

CAL3 said:

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The sound is "trash"? BEG TO DIFFER

Yea. I thought the vocal sounded kind of muddy from the very first word Prince utters, and it didn't get much better from there. To be fair, I haven't played the original in eons, so maybe it sounds better than that. But I'm used to the sound of my SOTT DVD, and it's not even close to that. Even the SOTT VHS sounds better.

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Ah yeah, well compared SOTT sure - which of course wasn't a straightahead "live" recording. Overdubbed, re-recorded, sweetened, etc for theatrical exhibition.

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But compared to the VHS of Syracuse, I was extremely pleased with the relative clarity and definition of the DVD mix!

CAL3 said:

SchlomoThaHomo said:

Yea. I thought the vocal sounded kind of muddy from the very first word Prince utters, and it didn't get much better from there. To be fair, I haven't played the original in eons, so maybe it sounds better than that. But I'm used to the sound of my SOTT DVD, and it's not even close to that. Even the SOTT VHS sounds better.

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Ah yeah, well compared SOTT sure - which of course wasn't a straightahead "live" recording. Overdubbed, re-recorded, sweetened, etc for theatrical exhibition.

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But compared to the VHS of Syracuse, I was extremely pleased with the relative clarity and definition of the DVD mix!

I totally agree with that! SOTT went through a lot of post production work!

The DVD transfer for Syracuse is fantastic and could have gone to blu ray.

Sadly the 'problems' with the 'quality' are due to the creative choices on the night, some poor technical judgement when setting up cameras and the fact this was a live transmission with only a small delay.

In general, the image issues are caused by blue and red gells, hot flood lights and a rediculous amount of smoke. By combining these 'poor' creative choices we have the resulting poor image quality.

That smoke machine is in hyperdrive! This may be good to create shafts of light for the audience watching, but for filming this is a nightmare!

I've been listening a lot to an audio rip of the DVD and it sounds great - bearing in mind this is mixed live on the fly for a stereo broadcast.

Last weekend I watched (for the first time in years) the welll known lazerdisc rip. The rip is technically great but the image is shockingly bad - but bear in mind lazerdiscs are the same technical spec as VHS.

All-in-all this DVD is great and I hope we get more - such as the Parade birthday concert.

They frequently showed this concert on Super Channel in the UK which was a predecessor to sky in around '86 or '87.

My first memory of Prince was when they showed the video for When Doves Cry at the end of Top of the Pops when it was no. 1 in the US and I only vaguely recognised the tune when it came on in the concert.