alandail said:

Still #1 on Amazon (updated hourly)

Now #17 for the year on Amazon (update daily)

If it stays near the top for 9 more days, it should sell quite a few on Amazon Prime day.

Does any one have any ideas why it is doing so much better on Amazon than Itunes. Cheaper? Better displayed?

gandorb said:

mdmeridius said:

gandorb said:

Does any one have any ideas why it is doing so much better on Amazon than Itunes. Cheaper? Better displayed?

The deomographic for Prince's music are older people, who tend to buy physical copies instead of downloads or streaming.

Ouch, yes that is true. i hadn't thought of that difference since I buy all my downloads from Amazon. Given that so many people want the physical PR Deluxe, I coulod see where itunes would underestimate overall activity for this release.

So the first week U.S. sales numbers are finally in, according to HitsDailyDouble

PURPLE RAIN DELUXE is at #4 with 51,008 copies sold. The official BILLBOARD numbers will be a little bit higher. But over 50,000 sales is not bad at all, especially with no promotion at all. The first world wide sales numbers should be in this week with an estimate of 70,000 or more.

And when the WORLDWIDE totals come in, it looks like it will sell more than the Sgt Peppers Reissue, and it sold more than RADIOHEAD and U2 JOSHUSA TREE reissue, for first week sales...

RODSERLING said:

That's really a disappointment that the 3 CD version is counted appart the 2 cd version and the original album.

It could have been #4.

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If there was promotion, people would have listened to it on streaming services and it would have gone higher.

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I predict 55/60.000 sales woldwide for the first week, below U2's Joshua Tree (not even talking about Sgt Peppers). Shame on WB.

PURPLE RAIN DELUXE sold 52,000 in the U.S. alone for the first week. So the world wide total sales will be much more...

Just with the U.K. and U.S. sales alone it stands at 61,000 copies sold, not including all the other countires sales...

The first week WORLD WIDE sales will be updated in a few days by media traffic.

Also in this case, it will sell more than U2's Joshua Tree reissue for first week sales.

[Edited 7/2/17 19:56pm]

The officiall BILLBOARD numbers just in:

BILLBOARD 200 - PURPLE RAIN DELUXE - #4

1ST WEEK U.S. SALES - 52.000

BILLBOARD:

Prince and the Revolution’s Purple Rain soundtrack, first released in 1984, re-enters the list straight in at No. 4, following its deluxe remastered reissue on June 23. The album — combining all versions of Purple Rain, past and present — earned 52,000 units in the tracking frame (of which 48,000 were in traditional album sales). The set collected a 3,633 percent gain in units for the week, and a 4,767 percent leap in album sales.

^ coool...

feeluupp said:

The officiall BILLBOARD numbers just in:

BILLBOARD 200 - PURPLE RAIN DELUXE - #4

1ST WEEK U.S. SALES - 52.000

BILLBOARD:

Prince and the Revolution’s Purple Rain soundtrack, first released in 1984, re-enters the list straight in at No. 4, following its deluxe remastered reissue on June 23. The album — combining all versions of Purple Rain, past and present — earned 52,000 units in the tracking frame (of which 48,000 were in traditional album sales). The set collected a 3,633 percent gain in units for the week, and a 4,767 percent leap in album sales.

Good news:))

Shows there is a market for his music and reissues...

Top Ten (or Top 20) worldwide for a 33 year old record is fantastic...

Surely they did not do a lot of promotion in the classic sense, but there has been lots of

reports in the media and online...so people know about the release...

One big single like dance electric or wonderful ass with a video would have been nice!

feeluupp said:

ROD I'm beginning to think you're just a troll. Ever since you joined this site... Your only posts have ever been about how Prince doesn't sell anywhere besides the U.S.

1. PRINCE 4EVER has been certified GOLD in the U.K. with over 100,000 copies sold alone.

2. HitnRun Phase Two peaked at #40 and has sold 57,000 copies in the U.S. as of November 2016.

3. HitnRun Phase Two was released before his death on TIDAL it was released in December 12, 2015, and a world wide physical release May 6 2016, after his death.

You're gonna stop insulting me and being agressive now, please, if there is a troll here you're the one, giving fake numbers and sales (I remember you claimed BATMAN sold 11 millions worldwide, Purple rain 25 millions, etc.)

1. 4EVER was certified gold in the Uk, I never claimed the contrary. But it was a flop eveywhere else besides US and netherlands, in spite of a huge promotion campaign.

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2. You're incredible claimed HNR2 peaked at #3, and now that you understood you were completely wrong, you do as if you never said that.

You have no source to claim that HNR2 sold 57.000 in the US as of november 2016...Moreover, 57.000 is still a flop for a first post-death release, I'm sorry. Even the new Chuck Berry made a better beginning all around the world !

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3. Of course it was released on Tidal in december 2015...I never claimed the contrary. I only said the worldwide physical release was just after his death. Nobody bought it on Tidal, it never made the top 200, or even sub-charts such as independant album, streaming charts, etc.

renfield said:

HNR2 was released physically in December 2015. I know, because I had a copy of it then...ordered it through Elecrtic Fetus. It had a staggered, non-promoted release to Tidal and retail and thus never charted. Following his death it entered the BB200 then moved to number 40 the following week (the first full week of sales after he passed). No one in this thread has been completely correct about this release.

Of course, you think the common man could buy HNR 2 as a physical or even digital release before may 2016 ? Nobody bought it before may 2016 (or maybe 3000 people in the world), so this had zero impact when the physical release came out in may 2016.

feeluupp said:

And when the WORLDWIDE totals come in, it looks like it will sell more than the Sgt Peppers Reissue, and it sold more than RADIOHEAD and U2 JOSHUSA TREE reissue, for first week sales...

The US numbers are better than expected, but SGT PEPPERS sold 180.000 the first week worldwide. No way that Purple Rain could achieve that.

OK COMPUTER sold already more in the US and UK than Purple rain (34 k in the US + 30 k in the Uk = 64 k) and outcharted Purple Rain everywhere in the world.

[Edited 7/3/17 1:27am]

feeluupp said:

Also in this case, it will sell more than U2's Joshua Tree reissue for first week sales.

[Edited 7/2/17 19:56pm]

That's true, there is at least some kind of justice in the charts.

Australia : #13 http://www.ariacharts.com...bums-chart

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OK COMPUTER is #6

I remember you Rodserling saying - after Billboard changed the rules for his album chart- Prince will never have a top 10 album again because of streaming etc.

So here we are in 2017 and he has another Top 5 album...

I personally don`t care if Sgt. pepper is selling more records by the way

linus4000 said:

I remember you Rodserling saying - after Billboard changed the rules for his album chart- Prince will never have a top 10 album again because of streaming etc.

So here we are in 2017 and he has another Top 5 album...

I personally don`t care if Sgt. pepper is selling more records by the way

Strange that you say that, i would have preferred Prince alive, and his album being flops.

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I said that in early 2015, when they changed the rules, (that still prevent older artist to go higher in the charts). In fact, I even said he would never make the top 200 again, alive. His deal with Warner was dead, and he had hard time to find a record company to release plectrum Electrum. He screwed up every major record companies, and everybody knew in the music industry that Prince will never promote his new stuff.

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Since Prince died, of course he made the top 200 again.

Prince, alive, would have never released 4EVER and Purple Rain deluxe.

HNR2, released in december 2015 on Tidal and in some obscure record store, never made the top 200, until it was released physically after his death.

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It's your right to not care about SGT PEPPERS selling more, but as a reedition released last month, it's a good opportunity to compare their sales. Just like Ok COMPUTER, released the same day as Purple Rain.

Of course, Peppers benefited from huge promotion, but is priced higher too.

OK computer sold only 6 millions worldwide witout a real hit (except in the Uk) such as When Doves Cry, Purple Rain or Lets go crazy, so it's kind of unexpected to see it selling more than PR today.

RODSERLING said:

feeluupp said:

And when the WORLDWIDE totals come in, it looks like it will sell more than the Sgt Peppers Reissue, and it sold more than RADIOHEAD and U2 JOSHUSA TREE reissue, for first week sales...

The US numbers are better than expected, but SGT PEPPERS sold 180.000 the first week worldwide. No way that Purple Rain could achieve that.

OK COMPUTER sold already more in the US and UK than Purple rain (34 k in the US + 30 k in the Uk = 64 k) and outcharted Purple Rain everywhere in the world.

[Edited 7/3/17 1:27am]

They are only better than expected to you. Prince sold a shit load of music last year and has a much larger fanbase then you or even WB realized. If the estate and WB can get their shit together we should be able to get one or two projects a year for the next 20 years. just in time for the generation that grew up with him to retire and plenty of time for younger people to discover his music.

In the end if things are done right Prince could be up there with the Beatles. More people will know "Purple Rain" than" I am the eggman".

RODSERLING said:

linus4000 said:

I remember you Rodserling saying - after Billboard changed the rules for his album chart- Prince will never have a top 10 album again because of streaming etc.

So here we are in 2017 and he has another Top 5 album...

I personally don`t care if Sgt. pepper is selling more records by the way

Strange that you say that, i would have preferred Prince alive, and his album being flops.

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I said that in early 2015, when they changed the rules, (that still prevent older artist to go higher in the charts). In fact, I even said he would never make the top 200 again, alive. His deal with Warner was dead, and he had hard time to find a record company to release plectrum Electrum. He screwed up every major record companies, and everybody knew in the music industry that Prince will never promote his new stuff.

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Since Prince died, of course he made the top 200 again.

Prince, alive, would have never released 4EVER and Purple Rain deluxe.

HNR2, released in december 2015 on Tidal and in some obscure record store, never made the top 200, until it was released physically after his death.

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It's your right to not care about SGT PEPPERS selling more, but as a reedition released last month, it's a good opportunity to compare their sales. Just like Ok COMPUTER, released the same day as Purple Rain.

Of course, Peppers benefited from huge promotion, but is priced higher too.

OK computer sold only 6 millions worldwide witout a real hit (except in the Uk) such as When Doves Cry, Purple Rain or Lets go crazy, so it's kind of unexpected to see it selling more than PR today.

Wrong if Prince had a contract with WB those projects would have come out sooner or later. WB would not have let the contract laspe without trying to make some money out of it and the Deluxe was already planned. I also love how you get letting the fact that Prince put out some much music without a major lable behind him and that was a hugh factor in his lack of chart success in the later part of his carreer.

With the right marketing and payola anyone can have chart success.

I Am The Walrus is the title..

Brilliant psycadelic pop-song.. (Beatles is = amazing music for sure)..

( sorry if I'm off topic )

laurarichardson said:

RODSERLING said:

The US numbers are better than expected, but SGT PEPPERS sold 180.000 the first week worldwide. No way that Purple Rain could achieve that.

OK COMPUTER sold already more in the US and UK than Purple rain (34 k in the US + 30 k in the Uk = 64 k) and outcharted Purple Rain everywhere in the world.

[Edited 7/3/17 1:27am]

They are only better than expected to you. Prince sold a shit load of music last year and has a much larger fanbase then you or even WB realized. If the estate and WB can get their shit together we should be able to get one or two projects a year for the next 20 years. just in time for the generation that grew up with him to retire and plenty of time for younger people to discover his music.

In the end if things are done right Prince could be up there with the Beatles. More people will know "Purple Rain" than" I am the eggman".

I'm sorry, but his fanbase is smaller than Radiohead, as shown in the charts. I agree though, that with smart promotion, it would have sold way better. It"s really sad to see that.

laurarichardson said:

Wrong if Prince had a contract with WB those projects would have come out sooner or later. WB would not have let the contract laspe without trying to make some money out of it and the Deluxe was already planned. I also love how you get letting the fact that Prince put out some much music without a major lable behind him and that was a hugh factor in his lack of chart success in the later part of his carreer.

With the right marketing and payola anyone can have chart success.

You're saying exactly what I'm saying concerning payola and promotion.

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BUT without much more promotion, guys like Beck, Bob Dylan, D'Angelo, Roger Waters, etc. sell way more than Prince, and worldwide, whereas Prince has a 80 % audience in the US.

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Moreover, for an independant artist, he partnered a lot of record company :

EMANCIPATION was released with EMI,

RAVE with Arista,

Musicology and Planet Earth with Sony,

3121 with Universal,

AOA and Plectrum with WB,

and even LOTUS FLOWER with

.

WB would have never released PR deluxe with Prince alive, and you know it. They even had to wait 14 months after his death, because they were desperatly looking for unreleased stuff. Same thing with 4EVER.

thedance said:

I Am The Walrus is the title..

Brilliant psycadelic pop-song.. (Beatles is = amazing music for sure)..

( sorry if I'm off topic )

It is horrible and there is really nothing else to say about it.

RODSERLING said:

laurarichardson said:

Wrong if Prince had a contract with WB those projects would have come out sooner or later. WB would not have let the contract laspe without trying to make some money out of it and the Deluxe was already planned. I also love how you get letting the fact that Prince put out some much music without a major lable behind him and that was a hugh factor in his lack of chart success in the later part of his carreer.

With the right marketing and payola anyone can have chart success.

You're saying exactly what I'm saying concerning payola and promotion.

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BUT without much more promotion, guys like Beck, Bob Dylan, D'Angelo, Roger Waters, etc. sell way more than Prince, and worldwide, whereas Prince has a 80 % audience in the US.

.

Moreover, for an independant artist, he partnered a lot of record company :

EMANCIPATION was released with EMI,

RAVE with Arista,

Musicology and Planet Earth with Sony,

3121 with Universal,

AOA and Plectrum with WB,

and even LOTUS FLOWER with

.

WB would have never released PR deluxe with Prince alive, and you know it. They even had to wait 14 months after his death, because they were desperatly looking for unreleased stuff. Same thing with 4EVER.

No we are not saying the same thing unless your long rambling post about P's poor sales are so vast you have no idea what your point is anymore?

Prince would have had no chance of seeing big sales after he left WB as an independent artist. Even when he had P&D deals with major companies what is the incentive for those companies to spend a lot of money promoting the product when they will never own the master recording or have any rights to license the music after the terms of the P&D deals ends. With a decline in music sales record companies are not interested in P&D deals they are interested in 360 deals were they have a chance of re-couping their outlay of cash on the project.

WB would not have let their deal with Prince expire without exploting it in some manner. We would have got the remaster it just would have been with the one disc and not the extra tracks which apparently is what Prince wanted. WB had to pull tracks from their own vault because P did not give them access to his and appears they still do not have access at this time. So we would have got it without the extra tracks.

RODSERLING said:

laurarichardson said:

They are only better than expected to you. Prince sold a shit load of music last year and has a much larger fanbase then you or even WB realized. If the estate and WB can get their shit together we should be able to get one or two projects a year for the next 20 years. just in time for the generation that grew up with him to retire and plenty of time for younger people to discover his music.

In the end if things are done right Prince could be up there with the Beatles. More people will know "Purple Rain" than" I am the eggman".

I'm sorry, but his fanbase is smaller than Radiohead, as shown in the charts. I agree though, that with smart promotion, it would have sold way better. It"s really sad to see that.

If he is fanbase is small who the hell brought all that music last year? Ghost consumers? Most fans can go to YOUTUBE and listen to anything they want without having to pay for it because UMG has done nothing about the massive copyright infringement and bootlegging that has been running unchecked since he died.

How is it one guy can hire a company to have stuff taken down off YOUTUBE and UMG who are getting paid can't manage it? It effects sales as most people are not going to spend money on the same 7 inch singles and hits they have already or that they can listen to for free.

I can go to YOUTUBE right now and listen to the entire remaster project for free.

laurarichardson said:

RODSERLING said:

You're saying exactly what I'm saying concerning payola and promotion.

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BUT without much more promotion, guys like Beck, Bob Dylan, D'Angelo, Roger Waters, etc. sell way more than Prince, and worldwide, whereas Prince has a 80 % audience in the US.

.

Moreover, for an independant artist, he partnered a lot of record company :

EMANCIPATION was released with EMI,

RAVE with Arista,

Musicology and Planet Earth with Sony,

3121 with Universal,

AOA and Plectrum with WB,

and even LOTUS FLOWER with

.

WB would have never released PR deluxe with Prince alive, and you know it. They even had to wait 14 months after his death, because they were desperatly looking for unreleased stuff. Same thing with 4EVER.

No we are not saying the same thing unless your long rambling post about P's poor sales are so vast you have no idea what your point is anymore?

Prince would have had no chance of seeing big sales after he left WB as an independent artist. Even when he had P&D deals with major companies what is the incentive for those companies to spend a lot of money promoting the product when they will never own the master recording or have any rights to license the music after the terms of the P&D deals ends. With a decline in music sales record companies are not interested in P&D deals they are interested in 360 deals were they have a chance of re-couping their outlay of cash on the project.

WB would not have let their deal with Prince expire without exploting it in some manner. We would have got the remaster it just would have been with the one disc and not the extra tracks which apparently is what Prince wanted. WB had to pull tracks from their own vault because P did not give them access to his and appears they still do not have access at this time. So we would have got it without the extra tracks.

We are really saying the same thing.

Prince was not really independant at all, and to sell he had to partner with record companies he criticized so much.

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What you're saying about Purple Rain is really strange : WB would have released PR without unreleased track ? What was the point of it? That would have been such a letdown, and this would have been highly criticized. So much negative publicity for nothing. Hey, that's why they never released it until now.

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Even with tons of unreleased stuff and with Prince considered as a legend since he is dead, only 50.000 people bought it. You're not realistic at all.

laurarichardson said:

RODSERLING said:

I'm sorry, but his fanbase is smaller than Radiohead, as shown in the charts. I agree though, that with smart promotion, it would have sold way better. It"s really sad to see that.

If he is fanbase is small who the hell brought all that music last year? Ghost consumers? Most fans can go to YOUTUBE and listen to anything they want without having to pay for it because UMG has done nothing about the massive copyright infringement and bootlegging that has been running unchecked since he died.

How is it one guy can hire a company to have stuff taken down off YOUTUBE and UMG who are getting paid can't manage it? It effects sales as most people are not going to spend money on the same 7 inch singles and hits they have already or that they can listen to for free.

I can go to YOUTUBE right now and listen to the entire remaster project for free.

Hey, 90 % of the sales came from the greatest hits compilations and Purple Rain.

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You really think there was 500.000 fans of Prince last year that bought Purple Rain because they forgot to buy it before ?

You think that 700.000 US fans bought The Very best of last year, but only 30.000 of them bought HNR 2 ?

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OMG, That makes absolutely no sense at all.

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People who bought Prince stuff last year were not the fans , but casual buyers because of the publicity surrounding his death.

RODSERLING said:

laurarichardson said:

If he is fanbase is small who the hell brought all that music last year? Ghost consumers? Most fans can go to YOUTUBE and listen to anything they want without having to pay for it because UMG has done nothing about the massive copyright infringement and bootlegging that has been running unchecked since he died.

How is it one guy can hire a company to have stuff taken down off YOUTUBE and UMG who are getting paid can't manage it? It effects sales as most people are not going to spend money on the same 7 inch singles and hits they have already or that they can listen to for free.

I can go to YOUTUBE right now and listen to the entire remaster project for free.

Hey, 90 % of the sales came from the greatest hits compilations and Purple Rain.

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You really think there was 500.000 fans of Prince last year that bought Purple Rain because they forgot to buy it before ?

You think that 700.000 US fans bought The Very best of last year, but only 30.000 of them bought HNR 2 ?

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OMG, That makes absolutely no sense at all.

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People who bought Prince stuff last year were not the fans , but casual buyers because of the publicity surrounding his death.

Blah bah blah ROD. Same post for 4 years. Prince sales are low, no one buys his music. Not an insult. It's facts. Lets check your last 20 posts on the org and copy and paste them into one thread... Yes, it is considered TROLLING.

RODSERLING said:

feeluupp said:

ROD I'm beginning to think you're just a troll. Ever since you joined this site... Your only posts have ever been about how Prince doesn't sell anywhere besides the U.S.

1. PRINCE 4EVER has been certified GOLD in the U.K. with over 100,000 copies sold alone.

2. HitnRun Phase Two peaked at #40 and has sold 57,000 copies in the U.S. as of November 2016.

3. HitnRun Phase Two was released before his death on TIDAL it was released in December 12, 2015, and a world wide physical release May 6 2016, after his death.

You're gonna stop insulting me and being agressive now, please, if there is a troll here you're the one, giving fake numbers and sales (I remember you claimed BATMAN sold 11 millions worldwide, Purple rain 25 millions, etc.)

1. 4EVER was certified gold in the Uk, I never claimed the contrary. But it was a flop eveywhere else besides US and netherlands, in spite of a huge promotion campaign.

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2. You're incredible claimed HNR2 peaked at #3, and now that you understood you were completely wrong, you do as if you never said that.

You have no source to claim that HNR2 sold 57.000 in the US as of november 2016...Moreover, 57.000 is still a flop for a first post-death release, I'm sorry. Even the new Chuck Berry made a better beginning all around the world !

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3. Of course it was released on Tidal in december 2015...I never claimed the contrary. I only said the worldwide physical release was just after his death. Nobody bought it on Tidal, it never made the top 200, or even sub-charts such as independant album, streaming charts, etc.

I don't insult you, you were the one that called me drunk remember...

I just call you out on your posts all being the same for four years.

I nver claimed BATMAN sold 11 million world wide, I made a thread about BATMAN because that is one of his misclaimed numbers for sales, what I did post was there have been claims BATMAN has sold 4 million, 6 million and 11 million according to its WIKIPEDIA page, and I wanted to know what was the exact number as it was a huge film back in 89 and the album was selling well.

Yes PURPLE RAIN has sold estimated over 25 million plus around the world, including the non certified millions and millions it sold since 1996.

1. 4EVER is still selling consistantly, these compilations sell slow but consistant.

2. I didn't claim anything, yes it was a typo, it didn't peak at #3 but #4 on the R&B charts, and #40 on the pop charts, I edited the post but you obviously responded before I edited it. The source is BillBoard ROD, HNR 2 has sold 57,000 in the U.S.A. since November 16. You are the one with no sources always estimating numbers.

When I report facts, you just ramble with estimates and estimates all the time. You estimated PR DELUXE would sell no more than 60,000 world wide... It has surpassed that number with just two countires (U.S. and U.K.) Stop estimating, and stop posting that his sales are low no one buys his music, we get it.

[Edited 7/3/17 6:45am]

feeluupp said:

RODSERLING said:

Hey, 90 % of the sales came from the greatest hits compilations and Purple Rain.

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You really think there was 500.000 fans of Prince last year that bought Purple Rain because they forgot to buy it before ?

You think that 700.000 US fans bought The Very best of last year, but only 30.000 of them bought HNR 2 ?

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OMG, That makes absolutely no sense at all.

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People who bought Prince stuff last year were not the fans , but casual buyers because of the publicity surrounding his death.

Blah bah blah ROD. Same post for 4 years. Prince sales are low, no one buys his music. Not an insult. It's facts. Lets check your last 20 posts on the org and copy and paste them into one thread... Yes, it is considered TROLLING.

I only respond to the posts that quote me, without understanding what I'm saying, and ignoring facts, sales, charts and numbers.

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You are a troll, because you make up numbers and sales out of nowhere : BATMAN sold 11 millions, PURPLe rain sold 25 millions, HNR2 was #3 in the US, etc.

Last year you confounded streaming and physical sales, and even albums and singles sales (you and Laura claimed that prince sold 5 millions albums the week after his death, etc.).

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