PurpleDiamonds1 said:

Mumio said:

Disagree. We know no such thing about any of it.

But we do know and an associate called Dr K and he sent Andrew for a gravely ill P...we know P was not gravely ill as Andrews Attny had stated and whoever called him knew ahead of time that P was going to have bad pills on the 20th.

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

So the Watson 353 could have come from Dr S or Andrews backpack... Whoever brought those to P had to have known they were bad pills and was careful handling them because no one else was sick or dead except Prince.

We know no such thing. This is speculation.

muleFunk said:

I first believed that Prince was sick and had cancer or leukemia and my best friend who is a pathologist has stated that he looked like someone with acute myeloid leukemia which is a fast acting and deadly form of the disease. If you listen to Art Official Age I felt there were messages in that album about illness.

I could believe Prince had an underlying condition, but if so, why is that kept from us now? There's no shame in cancer or leukemia. I find it hard to believe that family and friends would allow the general public to believe Prince died purely from a drug overdose when there was a legitimate reason to be taking pills. The exception to this would be AIDS. While I don't see the shame in it, I could imagine Prince being ashamed or embarassed and wanting to keep that quiet.

Personally I believe that he had pain issues, became dependant and it got out of control.

I certainly don't believe that he was deliberately murdered by someone.

moonsister said:

TheEnglishGent said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

moonsister said:

PennyPurple said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

But we do know and an associate called Dr K and he sent Andrew for a gravely ill P...we know P was not gravely ill as Andrews Attny had stated and whoever called him knew ahead of time that P was going to have bad pills on the 20th.

How do we know that? Where was it ever mentioned that whoever called Dr. K, knew ahead of time that P was going to have bad pills on the 20th? Do you have a link? Because I have a feeling that is NOT true.

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

So the Watson 353 could have come from Dr S or Andrews backpack... Whoever brought those to P had to have known they were bad pills and was careful handling them because no one else was sick or dead except Prince.

? Huh? There is a detailed report on what was in Andrews backpack, it's called the warrant. Again can you provide a link for your accusations?

zenarose said:

PennyPurple said:

At this point, it's hearsay. Let's get some links. I want to see it in writing. And how would LE collect them, because to them, they were just pills. If they were deadly to the touch why did no LE come down ill?

Why?? Because when investigators are at the scene of a crime or potential crime, they glove up and put on shoe covers ect. to preserve the integrity of the scene.

No, with something that deadly and such a high dose of fentanyl, they would have to almost wear haz-mat suits. And they would have to wear an entire mask for their heads.

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

So the Watson 353 could have come from Dr S or Andrews backpack... Whoever brought those to P had to have known they were bad pills and was careful handling them because no one else was sick or dead except Prince.

I do not know if they came from Andrew but I find it hard to believe that if these pills made him sick on the plane htat he would be taking them again since he had access to real pain pills via Kirk/Dr. S.

Why go to Dr. S for legitmate pills and other meds which appear to be for withdrawals and continue to take something off the streets? It just does not make any sense at all.

If he had pain or just bad withdrawals he had legitmate meds that he just got that day why make a trip to the doctor have something written in another person's name and not take them?

If the Reelz network is accurate ( could be bull but if people want to belive TMZ why not a TV network) and he had no opiods in his system from previous test and he was going thru a relapse once again he had legitmate pills maybe Dr. S gave those to him via Kirk just to get him to the next day but why did he not take them? I believe this is the reason the investigation is dragging along the stituation is not typical for an overdose of these meds and there is addtional things going on with Prince that has not been reveled.

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laurarichardson said:

I do not know if they came from Andrew but I find it hard to believe that if these pills made him sick on the plane htat he would be taking them again since he had access to real pain pills via Kirk/Dr. S.

Why go to Dr. S for legitmate pills and other meds which appear to be for withdrawals and continue to take something off the streets? It just does not make any sense at all.

If he had pain or just bad withdrawals he had legitmate meds that he just got that day why make a trip to the doctor have something written in another person's name and not take them?

If the Reelz network is accurate ( could be bull but if people want to belive TMZ why not a TV network) and he had no opiods in his system from previous test and he was going thru a relapse once again he had legitmate pills maybe Dr. S gave those to him via Kirk just to get him to the next day but why did he not take them?

I thought the pills that Dr. S gave Kirk in Kirk's name, were the ones P took when he OD on the plane? I'm sure if that is the case, those pain pills were already gone by the 20th.

PennyPurple said:

PennyPurple said:

laurarichardson said:

I do not know if they came from Andrew but I find it hard to believe that if these pills made him sick on the plane htat he would be taking them again since he had access to real pain pills via Kirk/Dr. S.

Why go to Dr. S for legitmate pills and other meds which appear to be for withdrawals and continue to take something off the streets? It just does not make any sense at all.

If he had pain or just bad withdrawals he had legitmate meds that he just got that day why make a trip to the doctor have something written in another person's name and not take them?

If the Reelz network is accurate ( could be bull but if people want to belive TMZ why not a TV network) and he had no opiods in his system from previous test and he was going thru a relapse once again he had legitmate pills maybe Dr. S gave those to him via Kirk just to get him to the next day but why did he not take them?

I thought the pills that Dr. S gave Kirk in Kirk's name, were the ones P took when he OD on the plane? I'm sure if that is the case, those pain pills were already gone by the 20th.

I am referencing the pain pills with Kirk's name on them you know the ones that Kirk is saying were really written for Prince that Dr. S is saying were written for Kirk on the 20th.

zenarose said:

PennyPurple said:

No, with something that deadly and such a high dose of fentanyl, they would have to almost wear haz-mat suits. And they would have to wear an entire mask for their heads.

But see here we go Penny...we know that LE takes precautions. And you state "would have almost had to have". It is all in the perception. We dont know the Fentanyl levels in the other pills as it has not been revealed yet. So we cant just say one way or the other. We just have to look at it from different angles. When we open our minds we can see things more clearly. All things need to be evaluated and not so quickly dismissed. It's tough to do sometimes but in order to find the truth that is what we have to do.

This is what LE and ME's do. They do not accpet the crime scence as it is. They investigate and look at all the angles even the ones that do not seem plausible.

If I told someone about the Tusekgee Experiment and they did not know it was true they would think I was telling a fictional tale of some mad sciencetist but I would be telling the truth.

You have to use critical thinking skills to think outside of the box. Even if Prince took the fatal dose by his own hand laws have been broken and people are responsible for manufacturing and distrubuting this stuff. Those people need to be punished. If anyone helped him get this stuff they were distrubing and they need to be punished.

Anyone that had an axe to grind with him or something to gain will be looked at as a suspect.

None of the things we have discussed are any different then what law enforcement is doing or has done.

Just think about that: if someone really did intend to kill Prince, and it worked. Oh my God ... Like you have said, open your mind to any possibility and it is an incredible feeling to consider what might have happened. Oh my God ...

zenarose said:

PennyPurple said:

No, with something that deadly and such a high dose of fentanyl, they would have to almost wear haz-mat suits. And they would have to wear an entire mask for their heads.

But see here we go Penny...we know that LE takes precautions. And you state "would have almost had to have". It is all in the perception. We dont know the Fentanyl levels in the other pills as it has not been revealed yet. So we cant just say one way or the other. We just have to look at it from different angles. When we open our minds we can see things more clearly. All things need to be evaluated and not so quickly dismissed. It's tough to do sometimes but in order to find the truth that is what we have to do.

What I'm trying to say, is that LE had no way of knowing at the time the possible high doses of fentanyl that were in those pills, when they collected them, so I doubt that they had full haz-mat suits on.

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I am aware that there are different angles to look at things. And that's why I'm trying to figure out how LE was able to handle those pills with just gloves and shoe covers...

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We all seen what happened last week to a LE officer when they made a traffic stop and powdered fentanyl was all over the car, and he just touched the powder unknowingly. He just about died. UNLESS maybe in pill form, it's not so dangerous to the touch?? I don't know. That's what I'm trying to figure out.

laurarichardson said:

This is what LE and ME's do. They do not accpet the crime scence as it is. They investigate and look at all the angles even the ones that do not seem plausible.

If I told someone about the Tusekgee Experiment and they did not know it was true they would think I was telling a fictional tale of some mad sciencetist but I would be telling the truth.

You have to use critical thinking skills to think outside of the box. Even if Prince took the fatal dose by his own hand laws have been broken and people are responsible for manufacturing and distrubuting this stuff. Those people need to be punished. If anyone helped him get this stuff they were distrubing and they need to be punished.

Anyone that had an axe to grind with him or something to gain will be looked at as a suspect.

None of the things we have discussed are any different then what law enforcement is doing or has done.

I agree, the makers of those pills and everyone down the chain needs to be punished.

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When Prince was at Walgreens on the 20th, was the pain pills for Kirk picked up on the 20th? Or were they picked up when he OD on the plane? I know P picked up some scripts from walgreens on the 20th, but what were those scripts?

PennyPurple said:

TheEnglishGent said:

PennyPurple said:

PennyPurple said:

PennyPurple said:

zenarose said:

Mumio said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

PennyPurple said:

? Huh? There is a detailed report on what was in Andrews backpack, it's called the warrant. Again can you provide a link for your accusations?

Penny ...if Andrew brought the laced pills and planted them in PP they would no longer be in his backpack. Remember they don't know who or how those pills got placed where they did.

OH for God's sake. Stop accusing innocent people. This is the kind of crap that ruins an innocents person career.

PennyPurple said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

zenarose said:

Im wondering the same thing. Whatever they were....they were not prescribed to Prince. In the search warrants re items found does not mention any scripts with P's name on them whether or not controlled substances. Dr S stated that he prescribed "to Prince scripts that were not controlled to be picked up at Walgreens". Where are those scripts? They were not found.

Yes ... Agree where were those scripts? Nothing is on the warrants stating they were found

If they were not controlled substances there would be no need for the police to confiscate them, and there would be no reason to list them in a search warrant.

There is no indication KirkyJ was given a script on the 20th.

The search warrant states they could only find 1 script for KirkyJ in the Minnesota registry.

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

PennyPurple said:

OH for God's sake. Stop accusing innocent people. This is the kind of crap that ruins an innocents person career.

Andrew is not innocent he has lied and he brought meds illegally on a plane and into PP ... You know where the links are [Edited 5/25/17 10:06am]

Now, show me where Andrew brought the fentanyl laced pills and planted them at PP.

http://www.mncourts.gov/M...rince.aspx