cloveringold85 said: Okay, so it was Kirkie who made those statements about Prince having "withdrawals"/"struggling with opiate abuse." This just reaffirms what I thought about him all along. He hasn't been truthful to us. Explains why he fled to Switzerland and got himself a Lawyer. .
[Edited 5/23/17 17:38pm] Yes....yes....yes it was also KJ that mentioned Percocet on the plane. | |
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laurarichardson said:
MTO has no credialbilty at all. I would go with the Crazy Days and Nights revealing the blind item about the Sephis. They actually named him and I cannot see that happening if they were not sure.
They could have been sued by putting his name out like that and they did it anyway. -- Any way the same questions keep going around in my mind and maybe new orgers can bring a fresh set of thoughts.
1) The interview with Adrian Crutchfield who said that he use to sell drugs and that he could spot a drug addict a mile away and that the person he looked in the face for 4 years was not a drug addict. He also said that Prince called him before the Atlanta show to let him know there would be no after show in Atlanta because he still did not feel 100% and he was going to hold off on additional shows until he saw his doctor. What drug addict does not know why he does not feel well. They take more drugs to get well or the decide to get off of them. You do not need to go to your doctor to be told your are on drugs or dying of AIDS.
2) He told the Atlanta promoter the same thing about holding off on the shows while he went to see his doctor and said he stomach was hurting when he left the stage yet Judith Hill said he was eating pasta and laughing and talking with her on the plane WTF.
3) Why did the Dr. S write a pain med for Kirk or Prince if he was supposed to be helping with the withdrawals and why are the drugs he prescribed sometimes used by cancer patients and why does Dr. S have no background in addiction or pain management at all?
4) Who is seriously and gravely ill and getting around in the manner that Prince was in his final days. Why was his stomach not still hurting if he was still popping pills. Tolerence does not wipe out the side effects of these meds. If he was not eating, withdrawing or just chopping down pills how was he out and about.
Keep in mind I do not think anyone thinks he was not using these meds but too many things just do not make any sense.
Agree... I am not sure if or what meds he was taking To your #3 I don't think there were any withdrawals going on...that is what KJ wanted us to believe | |
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moonsister said: laurarichardson said:
No, because the police are looking at it as a murder. Not sure why this is so hard to understand. Murder if they can find the person who gave or sold him the fentanyl laced illicit Vicodin. Some people think someone went into his home clandestinely and place JUST fentanyl laced pills in with his other illicit pills. Understand? I agree you are correct in that someone surrepticiously placed a "kill pill" in such a position that Prince would accidently take it. If it was a street drug the batch would have more deaths noted from such a batch and this has not been indicated. THE pill was a plant in my opinion. Who would gain most from his death and who was fearful of what he was doing to protect his music and income keeping it under " lock and key" as the saying goes. Who receives a phone call when a family member dies with two words, "he's gone" and knows what that means without any other explanantion as was expressed by the person who received the call. The murderer is close to home and had everything to gain and nothing to lose. Prince was making attempts to attend his health. There WAS a Will made up that week and plans being put inplace that did not suit certain people. Prince had a close call and would have acted on it as far as his business was concerned. He was an astute business man and had gone to great lengths to control his business. He was attempting to treat his addiction so was not planning to go anywhere. He was betrayed by the people he trusted or perhaps did not trust. All will come out as time moves on.I do not think his older siblings knew what was going on and are merely caught up in the sitauation.They had very little to do with Prince. I do not trust anyone born after Prince. I do not believe the record company WB or illuminati or whatever people think were invovled. It was murder motivated by simple greed and fear of where Prince was activelt putting his music and money from copyrights. I only hope he named beneficiaries in his LLC that will benefit from his future income and not the undeserved whoever they are. One thing for sure, if he did not name his family as beneficiaries then Prince has left the best clue as to his demise. | |
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Maybe you are right about new org members giving fresh insight...but I have yet to see it. Welcome to "the org", Mumio…they can have you, but I'll have your love in the end | |
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Welcome to "the org", Mumio…they can have you, but I'll have your love in the end | |
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margi said: moonsister said: Murder if they can find the person who gave or sold him the fentanyl laced illicit Vicodin. Some people think someone went into his home clandestinely and place JUST fentanyl laced pills in with his other illicit pills. Understand? I agree you are correct in that someone surrepticiously placed a "kill pill" in such a position that Prince would accidently take it. If it was a street drug the batch would have more deaths noted from such a batch and this has not been indicated. THE pill was a plant in my opinion. Who would gain most from his death and who was fearful of what he was doing to protect his music and income keeping it under " lock and key" as the saying goes. Who receives a phone call when a family member dies with two words, "he's gone" and knows what that means without any other explanantion as was expressed by the person who received the call. The murderer is close to home and had everything to gain and nothing to lose. Prince was making attempts to attend his health. There WAS a Will made up that week and plans being put inplace that did not suit certain people. Prince had a close call and would have acted on it as far as his business was concerned. He was an astute business man and had gone to great lengths to control his business. He was attempting to treat his addiction so was not planning to go anywhere. He was betrayed by the people he trusted or perhaps did not trust. All will come out as time moves on.I do not think his older siblings knew what was going on and are merely caught up in the sitauation.They had very little to do with Prince. I do not trust anyone born after Prince. I do not believe the record company WB or illuminati or whatever people think were invovled. It was murder motivated by simple greed and fear of where Prince was activelt putting his music and money from copyrights. I only hope he named beneficiaries in his LLC that will benefit from his future income and not the undeserved whoever they are. One thing for sure, if he did not name his family as beneficiaries then Prince has left the best clue as to his demise. You have picked a suspect with a motive. It's not like WB or UMG is going anywhere near broke without Prince's vault. [Edited 5/23/17 20:55pm] | |
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There it is, very well said! Now who or whom is the MF/MFs???!!!! | |
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RIP | |
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Has anyone else ever heard that Prince was drawing up a will that week?? . There have been a lot of deaths from those street drugs. They just aren't as high profile as Prince's was. | |
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TheEnglishGent said:
^^this | |
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Why would CDAN put Prince 's name out there back in 2014. when he was alive and well. Maybe he was in the hospital for Sephis.
Why Are People with Cancer at High Risk?There are several reasons why people with cancer may be at higher risk of developing sepsis than people who don’t have cancer. These include:
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I have my doubts about the withdrawals as well because all of the info so far came from Kirk who at one time also told the police he knew litlt about Prince's health issues outside of refering him to Dr. S for hip pain issues but obviously was telling lies.
I think Prince was either not in withdrawals at all or had gone thru the worst of it and was concerned about relasping. If we got the word from the Dr. himself about what exactly he was treating Prince for that would clear things up for good.
I keep thinking that Dr. S was treating him for something other than pain pills and someone took advantage of a person with compromised health.
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TheEnglishGent said:
The same person was most likely involved in both incidents... The same person that has lied and won't cooperate with LE [Edited 5/24/17 9:15am] | |
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laurarichardson said:
I have my doubts about the withdrawals as well because all of the info so far came from Kirk who at one time also told the police he knew litlt about Prince's health issues outside of refering him to Dr. S for hip pain issues but obviously was telling lies.
I think Prince was either not in withdrawals at all or had gone thru the worst of it and was concerned about relasping. If we got the word from the Dr. himself about what exactly he was treating Prince for that would clear things up for good.
I keep thinking that Dr. S was treating him for something other than pain pills and someone took advantage of a person with compromised health.
Agree...the truth would have been nice. | |
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It would have been. And what would be the harm in telling the truth? Unless it would expose someone to legal action - someone would be liable for providing the drug supply. In my mind there have always been four potential sources: Kirk, that Grand Slam former manager who died or his supplier, or someone in the family. | |
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2.I have no idea how P could've been eating pasta with stomach issues. From what has been said he was only requesting smoothies and such...speaking of...the chef stated the last meal he prepared for P (which P did not eat) was a RED PEPPER BISQUE! WTH?
edit:to correct spelling [Edited 5/24/17 11:20am] | |
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Who's the common denominator in ALL of this? And who has stated P had a dependency/withdrawl problem? It WASN'T Prince- he left the hospital AMA. | |
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Thank you for bringing that Dr. S was listed as a critical care physician I brought this up about six months ago and had my head chopped off. No one seems to think a physician with his type of practice is out of his lane handling withdrawals and joints problems
It does not make sense that Prince was only seeing him for those reasons. Prince had enough money to go out of the country and seek treatment even under another name why a critical care doctor? | |
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Where was Dr S billed as a "critical care physician"? The only places I can find that list his speciality (such as his license info, or this profile, which quotes his former employer's website as saying that he "“provides the full spectrum of family practice, including obstetrics, pediatric and adult medicine, office procedures and preventive health services”) say "family medicine." According to the info (the warrant) we have, Dr. S saw Prince only twice: April 7 and April 20. Do you have info that they had a relationship beyond those April visits? - I'm not saying whether Dr. S. was "out of his lane" or not. Prince was the one who chose to see Dr. S. for those couple visits, and why he chose him specifically, and for what exact complaints, we don't know.
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It was on a website last year that he was certified as a critical care physician before he went off line. Also if Prince was getting meds under an assumed name due to privacy why could have not been seeing doctors under an assumed name. If he had hip surgery he used a surgeon so he had a doctor. He had B-12 shots in his concert riders meaning he had script for it and some medical professional administering the shot. According to the warrants and KJ he was in the hospital in 2014 and 2015 if he was in a hospital he saw a physician.
See if you stop and think and stop beliving everything that is being spoon fed by the media you will see the problems with the story. In addition, KJ said he took Prince to see Dr. S for hip problems does Dr. K have a back ground in orthepedics, joint issues, or pain management. How could he help P with withdrawals when cannot legally administer the meds that are used for withdrawals.
Maybe Prince was not seeing him for withdrawals only or at all. What we know is Dr. S is still practicing medience and has felt good enough about his status concerning this case to send out a press release. So the police are not looking at him for wrong doing.
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delete -- I almost got baited to Laura-land. Anyone who's interested in Dr. S. can feel free to follow my links in reply #168 that have information about him from his Minnesota medical license, the search warrants, and the website of his former employer. Laura, feel free to provide links to sources about Dr. S. that you think tell a different story about him and his relationship to Prince.
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Dr S was Kirks doctor and Prince for whatever reason decided to see him on April 7th and the 20th. So the two times Prince saw Dr S he went from feeling so sick on the 7th he had to cancel the Atlanta show then his second visit is on the 20th and Prince is found dead. | |
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. I agree; I also believe that someone preyed on Prince when he was in a weakened physical state. . Ever see an injured animal in the wild? What happens to them? The stronger animals will prey on them and go in for the attack because they know that the injured/weak animal will not be able to defend themselves. . I think this is what happned to Prince. Someone saw an opportunity to do him harm, and they seized the moment to do it.
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Now you are seeing that I have been correct on this subject. | |
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PurpleDiamonds1 said: Dr S was Kirks doctor and Prince for whatever reason decided to see him on April 7th and the 20th. So the two times Prince saw Dr S he went from feeling so sick on the 7th he had to cancel the Atlanta show then his second visit is on the 20th and Prince is found dead. Dr S was so damn shady, take a look at this greasey guy, you wouldn't have sat in the same room with him. Kirk went to him specifically because he was shady and would prescribe meds for Prince in Kirk's name. Every big city has a Dr like this, in it for the money not to help sick people. And crutchfeild could have been wrong about Prince's addiction, and Prince could have been lying about his health issues because he didn't want to admit to drug dependency or withdrawal. | |
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The Moline incident was a seperate situation from the eventual OD. I tend to believe that he had a interaction with cold medication with those Percocets which is very similar to what happened to Gerald Levert. | |
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I know what I saw with my own eyeballs and it is gone now maybe the info on the website was wrong but it was there and everything else I have said about Dr.S is true the whole Dr. S was treating Prince for withdrawals is shady and so is Dr. S and K.J. said: delete -- I almost got baited to Laura-land. Anyone who's interested in Dr. S. can feel free to follow my links in reply #168 that have information about him from his Minnesota medical license, the search warrants, and the website of his former employer. Laura, feel free to provide links to sources about Dr. S. that you think tell a different story about him and his relationship to Prince.
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Let me recap my belief that something unusual occured and if you go and look at my posts on this subject you will see similar things.
I first believed that Prince was sick and had cancer or leukemia and my best friend who is a pathologist has stated that he looked like someone with acute myeloid leukemia which is a fast acting and deadly form of the disease. If you listen to Art Official Age I felt there were messages in that album about illness.
The stories about drug use that hit after the Moline incident from people like Micheal Padden made me very suspicious about a number of things. One it seemed like a cover story was laid out for the public. Secondly there was no will.
Then the August 21 story in the Star Tribune announced that Fentanyl was the cause of death. I recieved a message on Facebook from a person who told me that the level of Fentanyl found in Prince's system would have killed the offensive line of the Dallas Cowboys less alone someone the size of Prince. I talked to my friends in law enforcement about the deaths they are seeing and one detective told me that they hadn't seen levels that high in their fatalities.
This led me to believe that someone did this to him purposely. The DEA has not seen these Watson 385 pills show up anywhere else since he has died.
When the search warrants were released you have no prescriptions for Prince in the United States but there were several bottles of Percocet prescribed to Kirk Johnson at PP when the police searched the place on May 10th. Dr. S has stated that he prescribed medications to Prince on April 20.
Now assuming that Prince is a drug addict like Micheal Jackson or Elvis was presented to be there are no prescriptions under assumed identities and the only meds are there under Kirk Johnson's name. As far as amounts are concerned you have a 90 day supply of pain meds which is not a lot. The problem again goes to the bottles of Advil and Bayer that had lethal amounts of Fentanyl in them.
If he got these pills from the street you would have found more Watson 385 pills laced with Fentanyl showing up. This most certanly would have been printed in media and announced on TV.
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I agree with you on thst one Mule. Especially your last paragraph [Edited 5/24/17 15:07pm] | |
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. Great post, Mulefunk!! . The amount of Fentanyl that was found in Prince's body was enough to kill an elephant. This stuff is not for human consumption! It's used to sedate Elephants. That's why this stuff is so incredibly dangerous to be on the streets! And, this is why I do not believe that Prince would ever take this poision on purpose. . No doctor should be giving any patient a 90-day supply of pain pills. That's dangerous. Pain meds are highly addictive and should only be given in small quantities. . I also agree with the Watson 385 pills, and Precioux mentioned here yesterday that they found Watson pills with the numbers reversed "stamped" as 358 instead of 385. . .
[Edited 5/24/17 15:22pm] [Edited 5/24/17 15:23pm] "With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016) | |
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