Mumio said:

fortuneandserendipity said:

I think the funniest thing LR says are her frequent accusations that some orgers (namely, any supporting theory 'P had drug addiction problems')

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Yes, he was a 'functioning' addict.

So he did not have problems, right?

Until he died because of his addiction.

One problem too many.

udo said:

fortuneandserendipity said:

I think the funniest thing LR says are her frequent accusations that some orgers (namely, any supporting theory 'P had drug addiction problems')

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Yes, he was a 'functioning' addict.

So he did not have problems, right?

Until he died because of his addiction.

One problem too many.

Sadly, for LR, Prince didn’t vaporize into heaven at the height of his physical beauty, artistic achievements and global popularity so we are left to process what DID happen, in all its shocking, messy, humanity.

To insist that Prince should be remembered only for his work ethic, creativity and the joy he brought countless millions is ignoring reality. We all wish the narrative was different, but in fact, Prince was the only one who could have made the story end differently.

Rather than deny and banish the image of Prince choosing to put deadly street drugs into his body, we should strive to lovingly put that act in context so it doesn’t overwhelm the true and uplifting arc of his prolific genius.

That way, his art will not have been in vain…and neither will his death.

Bodhitheblackdog said:

udo said:

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Yes, he was a 'functioning' addict.

So he did not have problems, right?

Until he died because of his addiction.

One problem too many.

Sadly, for LR, Prince didn’t vaporize into heaven at the height of his physical beauty, artistic achievements and global popularity so we are left to process what DID happen, in all its shocking, messy, humanity.

To insist that Prince should be remembered only for his work ethic, creativity and the joy he brought countless millions is ignoring reality. We all wish the narrative was different, but in fact, Prince was the only one who could have made the story end differently.

Rather than deny and banish the image of Prince choosing to put deadly street drugs into his body, we should strive to lovingly put that act in context so it doesn’t overwhelm the true and uplifting arc of his prolific genius.

That way, his art will not have been in vain…and neither will his death.

Nice...except for the bolded

WE DO NOT KNOW that those street drugs were Princes choice !

The ongoing investigations suggests that he may NOT have known...alongside the accidental ruling.

Further there is a whole lot of Questionable .....ummm...evidence ???

Like...

yeah right..Prince kept a stash of pills in the Laundry ROOM...JUST IN CASE HE FELT THE NEED to "dose up "while he was rinsing out his socks and boxers !!!!!!!

Lovejunky said:

Bodhitheblackdog said:

Sadly, for LR, Prince didn’t vaporize into heaven at the height of his physical beauty, artistic achievements and global popularity so we are left to process what DID happen, in all its shocking, messy, humanity.

To insist that Prince should be remembered only for his work ethic, creativity and the joy he brought countless millions is ignoring reality. We all wish the narrative was different, but in fact, Prince was the only one who could have made the story end differently.

Rather than deny and banish the image of Prince choosing to put deadly street drugs into his body, we should strive to lovingly put that act in context so it doesn’t overwhelm the true and uplifting arc of his prolific genius.

That way, his art will not have been in vain…and neither will his death.

Nice...except for the bolded

WE DO NOT KNOW that those street drugs were Princes choice !

The ongoing investigations suggests that he may NOT have known...alongside the accidental ruling.

Further there is a whole lot of Questionable .....ummm...evidence ???

Like...

yeah right..Prince kept a stash of pills in the Laundry ROOM...JUST IN CASE HE FELT THE NEED to "dose up "while he was rinsing out his socks and boxers !!!!!!!

It was the laundry room/wardrobe room.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Lovejunky said:

Nice...except for the bolded

WE DO NOT KNOW that those street drugs were Princes choice !

The ongoing investigations suggests that he may NOT have known...alongside the accidental ruling.

Further there is a whole lot of Questionable .....ummm...evidence ???

Like...

yeah right..Prince kept a stash of pills in the Laundry ROOM...JUST IN CASE HE FELT THE NEED to "dose up "while he was rinsing out his socks and boxers !!!!!!!

It was the laundry room/wardrobe room.

In my world Laundry room is where clothes are washed....

Do you mean that in the documents outlining where the pills were found they made a mistake and meant WARDROBE ?

Or Does Laundry room MEAN Wardrobe in America....?

Where Im looking at things from...keeping pills where other people are likely to find them is ...well....something in the water if you get my drift.

Is it possible for the homicide investigation to be terminated and Carver County to say it was a accidental suicide? I doubt they would. US FANS WANT AND NEED CLOSURE

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'I know I shouldnt put my faith in heroes,but I cant c u any other way' RIP P

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Suicide is NEVER Accidental Dear....

Lovejunky said:

^

Suicide is NEVER Accidental Dear....

are there any absolutes? I just lost a coworker to a drowning. when i was told a couple hours ago, i said i didn't want to be insensitive but it had crossed my mind more than a couple times that the guy was self-destructive as I'd seen him do some risky things before. People aren't always even in touch with their impulses so I do think the "death wish" idea has a lot of truth to it. And it never seems to really make any logic, the guy died in front of his own kid. last week we had a black woman killed by the police which is pretty clearly a suicide by cop, here in seattle, she pulled knife out of the blue, it makes no sense, her kids were right there. So for all of us wanting answers in Prince's death, there might not be too many, people are complicated.

Lovejunky said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

It was the laundry room/wardrobe room.

In my world Laundry room is where clothes are washed....

Do you mean that in the documents outlining where the pills were found they made a mistake and meant WARDROBE ?

Or Does Laundry room MEAN Wardrobe in America....?

Where Im looking at things from...keeping pills where other people are likely to find them is ...well....something in the water if you get my drift.

Here is the thing that people are missing. He has 110 pills I am told that people who are prescribed these pills get a 90 day supply so he did not have an outragerous amount of pills.

The pills were found in his living quarters which I am assuming includes the laundry area. He could have left some in there mistakenly it does not mean that was a stash area.

If they said they found pills in the studios or other locations in Paisley Park I would say yes he stashing all over the place. It appears he just had pills in his living quarters. Nothing weird about that or strange. What is strange is that the police did not have to look to hard to find them especially since he had been involved in the Moline incident. The police could have come knocking at anytime on his door so I find the fact that the pills were not hidden better to be odd. It is a 65k foot facility he could hide stuff in that place that nobody could find.

Add to the mix we don't know if anything was in any other part or parts of the building complex because the whole place was not searched until, IIRC, sometime in May. The place was not on lockdown. People could have come in and removed whatever they found. Be that as it may, he was so meticulous about the persona he presented to the world, perhaps the pills found in disarray were just a peek into the disarray in his personal life.

1Sasha said:

Add to the mix we don't know if anything was in any other part or parts of the building complex because the whole place was not searched until, IIRC, sometime in May. The place was not on lockdown. People could have come in and removed whatever they found. Be that as it may, he was so meticulous about the persona he presented to the world, perhaps the pills found in disarray were just a peek into the disarray in his personal life.

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If the pills were all in his living quaters they were not in disarray. If he had pills stuffed all over Paisley Park then that would be disarray. I noticed in the search warrant it did not say anything about if the rest of the facility was searched or even if his cars or other homes were searched.

I find the neatness and easy find of the pills to strange. I keep remembering the picture of one of Whitney Houston's rooms in house being a dirty and filty disaster area.

It's as if the whole thing was staged. And by disarray - probably used the wrong word. I meant that the pills were in plain sight but various bottles.

1Sasha said:

It's as if the whole thing was staged. And by disarray - probably used the wrong word. I meant that the pills were in plain sight but various bottles.

Out in plain sight when the whole world knew a week ago he had a problem with meds from the Moline incident. The whole story that he had a rack of drugs in his airplane as if carrying around illegal drugs in a plane going across state lines would be overlooked by the police.

Combined with Romero his other body guard stating the packed P's bags up until the last week and he never saw any drugs.

laurarichardson said:

Dibblekins said:

herb4 said:

Great post (I weeded some of it) but you also left out the officially announced memior he had planned, which was so far out of character for the Prince I knew for 35+ years that I was stunned when I learned of it. That smacks of someone who wants to get a story out before they run out of time.

Agree about the lack of a will too. It's be just like Prince to "let God handle it".

I didn't leave it out - you missed it amidst my meanderings.

oops. I sure did. my bad.

laurarichardson said:

1Sasha said:

It's as if the whole thing was staged. And by disarray - probably used the wrong word. I meant that the pills were in plain sight but various bottles.

Out in plain sight when the whole world knew a week ago he had a problem with meds from the Moline incident. The whole story that he had a rack of drugs in his airplane as if carrying around illegal drugs in a plane going across state lines would be overlooked by the police.

Combined with Romero his other body guard stating the packed P's bags up until the last week and he never saw any drugs.

No. But he saw vitamin bottles...

laurarichardson said:

Lovejunky said:

In my world Laundry room is where clothes are washed....

Do you mean that in the documents outlining where the pills were found they made a mistake and meant WARDROBE ?

Or Does Laundry room MEAN Wardrobe in America....?

Where Im looking at things from...keeping pills where other people are likely to find them is ...well....something in the water if you get my drift.

Here is the thing that people are missing. He has 110 pills I am told that people who are prescribed these pills get a 90 day supply so he did not have an outragerous amount of pills.

30. At least in Florida.

laurarichardson said:

Bodhitheblackdog said:

stuff

Prince was not like Rick James he was not throwing joints into the audience and promoting drugs use. Not sure why people want destroy his legacy with this nonsense.

Why do you keep posting this like you have a personal stake in Prince's reputation? Nobody is doing that (except for some shitty tabloids but that's what they do). If anything, Prince's death has not only helped call attention to the opiod problem but his legacy and reputation have actually gained in stature.

Bodhitheblackdog said:

herb4 said:

laurarichardson said:

Here is the thing that people are missing. He has 110 pills I am told that people who are prescribed these pills get a 90 day supply so he did not have an outragerous amount of pills.

30. At least in Florida.

I had surgery last summer and the doctor prescribed 12 - just 12 - for me to pick up when I went home.

herb4 said:

laurarichardson said:

Here is the thing that people are missing. He has 110 pills I am told that people who are prescribed these pills get a 90 day supply so he did not have an outragerous amount of pills.

30. At least in Florida.

Correct. A normal script for a 30 day period would be 90 pills. I don't think legally a script for opiate narcotics can be written in excess of a month period.

1Sasha said:

herb4 said:

30. At least in Florida.

I had surgery last summer and the doctor prescribed 12 - just 12 - for me to pick up when I went home.

herb4 is referencing "pain management" clinics. Do you have ongoing pain in which you are prescribed pain meds on a monthly basis?

precioux said:

herb4 said:

30. At least in Florida.

Correct. A normal script for a 30 day period would be 90 pills. I don't think legally a script for opiate narcotics can be written in excess of a month period.

So he had 12 more than he would have had if he had an RX.

Lovejunky said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

It was the laundry room/wardrobe room.

In my world Laundry room is where clothes are washed....

Do you mean that in the documents outlining where the pills were found they made a mistake and meant WARDROBE ?

Or Does Laundry room MEAN Wardrobe in America....?

Where Im looking at things from...keeping pills where other people are likely to find them is ...well....something in the water if you get my drift.

laurarichardson said:

precioux said:

Correct. A normal script for a 30 day period would be 90 pills. I don't think legally a script for opiate narcotics can be written in excess of a month period.

So he had 12 more than he would have had if he had an RX.

IF he had ever gone through pain management, this is the norm. If he was cut off and was trying to "self-medicate" based off of a normal Rx, then yes- it was only 10-12 off. This is all hypothetically of course.

precioux said:

laurarichardson said:

So he had 12 more than he would have had if he had an RX.

IF he had ever gone through pain management, this is the norm. If he was cut off and was trying to "self-medicate" based off of a normal Rx, then yes- it was only 10-12 off. This is all hypothetically of course.

Well having surgery would mean he may gone throught pain management at some point.

laurarichardson said:

precioux said:

IF he had ever gone through pain management, this is the norm. If he was cut off and was trying to "self-medicate" based off of a normal Rx, then yes- it was only 10-12 off. This is all hypothetically of course.

Well having surgery would mean he may gone throught pain management at some point.

Exactly

herb4 said: