that's pretty much what I heard too, it makes sense, it's got to be surreal to come upon Prince dead, i could see them being smart enough to see he was already gone and try to set things up, but on the other side of the coin, the authorities said he had drugs "on him" which usually, people tend to get rid of inspite of the tests bearing it out anyway. Lots of strange shit.

laurarichardson said:

sonshine said:

laurarichardson said: Where did you get the 45 minute piece? Thats inaccurate. You post things that aren't true and run with it. I hope finally people see what we've been saying for over a year about the incorrect info you post all over these threads. So much of it is just plain wrong. How do you know what time Andrew arrived? Its not like there is an official record of his arrival. Geesh. You aren't the clever sleuth you try to present as. [Edited 6/23/17 18:40pm]

Andrew arrived around 9:00 am. Prince was found around 9:45am. He was pronounced dead at 10:07 this is in the search warrants. See below.This is the last time you are going to call me liar. Tired of this crap when you can just look things up for yourself. His best friend did not think it was odd that Prince was not at the 9:00 meeting and did not go to his living quarters to look for him for 45 minutes despite the fact that he was ill. Nothing strange about that.

http://www.mncourts.gov/mncourtsgov/media/CIOMediaLibrary/Documents/Index-1.pdf

herb4 made a comment concerning Mumio (it sounds like they have Prince.org history as evidenced by Mumio's "before I have to report you again" comment. Mumio responded to herb4's comment as it appeared that she did not appreciate it.

THIS is strange sh*t? Sounds like an internet message board to me.

Bodhitheblackdog said:

Mumio said:

What I do or don't know isn't something that will ever be directly revealed to you. The last time I reported you for stalking you apparently heard enough feedback to keep your distance. I have not directly engaged you, yet here you are again...coming for me. Step the fuck back Herb4 before I have to report you again. I am not afraid of you nor am I in any way intimidated by you. Don't be bitter because you are being left out of the discussions you are so desperate to hear. You mean nothing to me. What a sad man you are

Wow, this is some strange shit. I think I need a nap...and I'm not the only one.

Me too, PeteSilas.

PeteSilas said:

that's pretty much what I heard too, it makes sense, it's got to be surreal to come upon Prince dead, i could see them being smart enough to see he was already gone and try to set things up, but on the other side of the coin, the authorities said he had drugs "on him" which usually, people tend to get rid of inspite of the tests bearing it out anyway. Lots of strange shit.

laurarichardson said:

Andrew arrived around 9:00 am. Prince was found around 9:45am. He was pronounced dead at 10:07 this is in the search warrants. See below.This is the last time you are going to call me liar. Tired of this crap when you can just look things up for yourself. His best friend did not think it was odd that Prince was not at the 9:00 meeting and did not go to his living quarters to look for him for 45 minutes despite the fact that he was ill. Nothing strange about that.

http://www.mncourts.gov/mncourtsgov/media/CIOMediaLibrary/Documents/Index-1.pdf

PeteSilas said:

uh, what did i do to you to get out of my lane? Shall we squabble? You should be bothered by my theories about as much as I'm bothered by yours, which I haven't really even taken notice of.

sonshine said:

PeteSilas said:

that's pretty much what I heard too, it makes sense, it's got to be surreal to come upon Prince dead, i could see them being smart enough to see he was already gone and try to set things up, but on the other side of the coin, the authorities said he had drugs "on him" which usually, people tend to get rid of inspite of the tests bearing it out anyway. Lots of strange shit.

Andrew arrived AROUND 9 am. The body was discovered AROUBD 9:45. Just keeping it real. There is a lot of room for variance there. Stay in your own lane. (Gosh i've been waiting for a chance to say that too.)

PeteSilas said:

sonshine said:

PeteSilas said:

uh, what did i do to you to get out of my lane? Shall we squabble? You should be bothered by my theories about as much as I'm bothered by yours, which I haven't really even taken notice of.

Oops, i'm sorry. That wasnt directed at you. Ever since ive seen LR sling it out there i wanted to use it. Sorry again. Its best i bow put for the night. Im getting wiggy after a very budy exhsusting day of work on two hpurs of sleep since yesterdsy morning. See? I cant even be bothered to fix my typos. [Edited 6/23/17 19:42pm]

ya i figured, i was just being pissy.

said:

sonshine said:

And once again for the record the reason no one is talking (for those of you desperate still all these months later for all the personal details) is out of respect for Prince's life long appeal for privacy. He was very clear about that and his family and friends are trying to maintain the high road and not betray their beloved. I get that and i don't have a problem with them keeping it to themselves. In the end why do you need to know any more than we already do? What possible difference does it make? What purpose does it serve. The people who like to snipe and argue with everyone will still find reasons to do so here no matter how much is revealed about his death. It will never be enough. Its unsettling how nosey and in his business some of you are. In fact many orgers still active in these threads have made up their minds ans have stated so. I think now would be a good time to agree to disagree.

laurarichardson said:

Sorry I couldn't reply before, i live in Europe.

Concerning his clothes backward and inside out it could be they dressed him as soon as they found him, but remember there were supposed to be 3 people in that moment, one of them was a doctor, I don't see anybody touching him before the police to come, guess everybody was aware a deep investigation could happen..I don't have any truth in my pocket unfortunately

The only thing I get for granted is he had a pain killer addiction since a long time, I didn't see him swallow any pill but, as told before, somebody I really trust after 20 years told me so.

The reasons took me to the suicide side are so many..hard to explain here all of them, but I understand there are other options on the table but after analizying all one by one for what i know there is a really good chance it was his decision, as almost everything in his life..

laurarichardson said:

I will have to go back and look at the search warrant again but I do not remember anything about drugs being on his person. said:

that's pretty much what I heard too, it makes sense, it's got to be surreal to come upon Prince dead, i could see them being smart enough to see he was already gone and try to set things up, but on the other side of the coin, the authorities said he had drugs "on him" which usually, people tend to get rid of inspite of the tests bearing it out anyway. Lots of strange shit.

i remember simply because it was in the first reports. someone on here speculated that "on him" could mean anything, pills in pocket or patches. also, I always thought the lyrics "u got the look" in his briefcase, may have been a tease on whoever found the case as in "you got to look".

I really could see suicide but not in a wimpy way, more in a way where he knew he was just going to another plane and not reallydying. His reaons, whether they were pain, vanity (I cannot see him accepting old age at all), depression (which I don't think is the reason, but maybe). Susan Rogers said that Prince didn't talk about sickness when she knew him, she suppossed that was the reason that so many people were surprised that he was in pain. I understand that, I think all of you do too, I feel things all the time but I don't share them, sometimes I feel so tired of life but really feel stuck in it right now but not really being interested in it. Who do you tell that to? People might worry, be judgemental, misunderstand or what have you, so, like Prince, I just push on as far as I can. Life ain't easy for nobody.

it's ok, i appreciate your perspective. Thank you.

pupa1 said:

Sorry I couldn't reply before, i live in Europe.

Concerning his clothes backward and inside out it could be they dressed him as soon as they found him, but remember there were supposed to be 3 people in that moment, one of them was a doctor, I don't see anybody touching him before the police to come, guess everybody was aware a deep investigation could happen..I don't have any truth in my pocket unfortunately

The only thing I get for granted is he had a pain killer addiction since a long time, I didn't see him swallow any pill but, as told before, somebody I really trust after 20 years told me so.

The reasons took me to the suicide side are so many..hard to explain here all of them, but I understand there are other options on the table but after analizying all one by one for what i know there is a really good chance it was his decision, as almost everything in his life..

PeteSilas said:

laurarichardson said:

I will have to go back and look at the search warrant again but I do not remember anything about drugs being on his person. said:

i remember simply because it was in the first reports. someone on here speculated that "on him" could mean anything, pills in pocket or patches. also, I always thought the lyrics "u got the look" in his briefcase, may have been a tease on whoever found the case as in "you got to look".

I really could see suicide but not in a wimpy way, more in a way where he knew he was just going to another plane and not reallydying. His reaons, whether they were pain, vanity (I cannot see him accepting old age at all), depression (which I don't think is the reason, but maybe). Susan Rogers said that Prince didn't talk about sickness when she knew him, she suppossed that was the reason that so many people were surprised that he was in pain. I understand that, I think all of you do too, I feel things all the time but I don't share them, sometimes I feel so tired of life but really feel stuck in it right now but not really being interested in it. Who do you tell that to? People might worry, be judgemental, misunderstand or what have you, so, like Prince, I just push on as far as I can. Life ain't easy for nobody.

I am with you with the reasons I see behind his decision, he was also stuck in his way to live his life, he has lost a lot of people who could love him during his life, he knew that but he couldn't change his way to live his relationship with people, particularly women, almost none of them could stand it..so at the end he had always new ones, young ones...he wanted real love but he could't make it last even if he tryed...more he was aging, not at my eyes, but he felt that..possibly he could have some kind of illness nobody know, but i get nothing proving it..

pupa1 said:

Sorry I couldn't reply before, i live in Europe.

Concerning his clothes backward and inside out it could be they dressed him as soon as they found him, but remember there were supposed to be 3 people in that moment, one of them was a doctor, I don't see anybody touching him before the police to come, guess everybody was aware a deep investigation could happen..I don't have any truth in my pocket unfortunately

The only thing I get for granted is he had a pain killer addiction since a long time, I didn't see him swallow any pill but, as told before, somebody I really trust after 20 years told me so.

The reasons took me to the suicide side are so many..hard to explain here all of them, but I understand there are other options on the table but after analizying all one by one for what i know there is a really good chance it was his decision, as almost everything in his life..

Ive thought his death was his decision since I heard the words 'accidental overdose'. Thank you for sharing your thoughts

moonsister said:

leec1 said:

Great video. Thanks

I would be interested in seeing the vids and pics that make you think he was high. In this vid I posted that I think is out of this world stellar I wonder if he was tired and operating on a less than alert but somehow uninhibited genius level as a direct result of the tiredness, or high or ? He seems hoarse to me that's why I think he may be tired.

Try the link below and I hope this works to show some images.

http://tinypic.com/1r55h5x2

pupa1 said:

Sorry I couldn't reply before, i live in Europe.

Concerning his clothes backward and inside out it could be they dressed him as soon as they found him, but remember there were supposed to be 3 people in that moment, one of them was a doctor, I don't see anybody touching him before the police to come, guess everybody was aware a deep investigation could happen..I don't have any truth in my pocket unfortunately

The only thing I get for granted is he had a pain killer addiction since a long time, I didn't see him swallow any pill but, as told before, somebody I really trust after 20 years told me so.

The reasons took me to the suicide side are so many..hard to explain here all of them, but I understand there are other options on the table but after analizying all one by one for what i know there is a really good chance it was his decision, as almost everything in his life..

There was no doctor of the three who found him. You are thinking of Kornfeld's son, Andrew Kornfeld. He is not a doctor.

PeteSilas said:

paisleypearl said:

pupa1 said: No no no nope he would have made a will, he had too many assets and reasons to live. There is no way he would have had on yesterday's clothes for the biggest exit of his life.

you ever wonder if maybe someone dressed him before the medics came?

I think they would have taken more care to get it right. Dressing him incorrectly would be more suspicious than him not being dressed at all if foul play were involved and it were staged.

PeteSilas said:

DD55 said:

Pete,

I did wonder about that, then discounted it. Remember it was April not August, that huge building in MN would be to expensive to heat for him to be comfortable walking around in underwear or less in April.

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That is what logic tells me, but we are talking about Prince so who knows. What was the thermostat set to? Interesting Question.

.

regards, DD55

I don't know, I do know, I've put on my clothes backwards, sorry folks, full disclosure, i've had my clothes on all fucked up a couple times leaving a woman place after some funny business, so I can tell you it does happen when you're not thinking too clearly. the last one had to really insist because i was about to go out with my shit inside out, i said "no i like it like this" not realizing it was inside out, she said "Ok, you are special then" like i was retarded, which, lets face it, women tend to make us guys.

[Edited 6/23/17 16:42pm]

Yeah, but PRince was a fashion freak and a real clothes horse. Very conscious about this appearance. I tend to believe he hastily and loopily tried to cobble some clothes together once the drugs kicked in and was practically incohereht by then.

Mumio said:

herb4 said:

oooooooooo.....so mysterious.

I haven't read one single thing you've contributed to any of these dicsussions/threads beyond cryptic "behind the scenes" innuendo, hints at "insider information", suggestions to "read between the lines" and a sort of weird, off putting Puppet Master style of disseminating "information", such as it is. By which I mean "no information or ideas at all" and "complete nonsense" disguised as hipster chic. If you have posted anything relevant, I've certainly missed it so maybe you can climb down off the purple throne you built for yourself, descend from the paisley clouds and share it with us?

Or dig through your post history and tell us what we should be looking at? I've already done it and, aside from being way cooler than me, you fundamentally have added only two things (by my count) relevant to this discussion:

1.Jack
2.Shit

At least from what I've been able to find but maybe I missed a golden nugget somewhere. Enlighten us, wise one. It's been over a year and you're still trying to be mystic by posting in riddles.

What I do or don't know isn't something that will ever be directly revealed to you. The last time I reported you for stalking you apparently heard enough feedback to keep your distance. I have not directly engaged you, yet here you are again...coming for me. Step the fuck back Herb4 before I have to report you again. I am not afraid of you nor am I in any way intimidated by you. Don't be bitter because you are being left out of the discussions you are so desperate to hear. You mean nothing to me. What a sad man you are

oooooo...Oh oh. Now I'm in trouble. Shit.

Seriously though, is that the rule? We're only allowed to respond to people that engage us? Because you quote severla people that weren't addressing you either so I'm confused. I'll post when and wherever I like, thank you very much, and I have never been so much as warned (save for a few "snips" over the years) for the content of my writing so report away.

No one's trying to intimidate or frighten you. Where'd you get that? If you have sopmething to say, fucking say it. Your cryptic drive by style is annoying and devoid of content so I'm having a hard time seeing what you chiming in here to tell us all we know nothing and how smart you are seems counter productive.

At least most of the posters I engage with whom I disagree post SOMETHING of substance. You, on the other hand, add nothing to the discussion except to appear all knowing, coy and smug.

herb4 said:

PeteSilas said:

I don't know, I do know, I've put on my clothes backwards, sorry folks, full disclosure, i've had my clothes on all fucked up a couple times leaving a woman place after some funny business, so I can tell you it does happen when you're not thinking too clearly. the last one had to really insist because i was about to go out with my shit inside out, i said "no i like it like this" not realizing it was inside out, she said "Ok, you are special then" like i was retarded, which, lets face it, women tend to make us guys.

[Edited 6/23/17 16:42pm]

Yeah, but PRince was a fashion freak and a real clothes horse. Very conscious about this appearance. I tend to believe he hastily and loopily tried to cobble some clothes together once the drugs kicked in and was practically incohereht by then.

.

This could mean that KAJ was involved in the death:

His name was found on pots with pills and via his business he quite likely has access to pills too.

Mumio said:

pupa1 said:

Sorry I couldn't reply before, i live in Europe.

Concerning his clothes backward and inside out it could be they dressed him as soon as they found him, but remember there were supposed to be 3 people in that moment, one of them was a doctor, I don't see anybody touching him before the police to come, guess everybody was aware a deep investigation could happen..I don't have any truth in my pocket unfortunately

The only thing I get for granted is he had a pain killer addiction since a long time, I didn't see him swallow any pill but, as told before, somebody I really trust after 20 years told me so.

The reasons took me to the suicide side are so many..hard to explain here all of them, but I understand there are other options on the table but after analizying all one by one for what i know there is a really good chance it was his decision, as almost everything in his life..

There was no doctor of the three who found him. You are thinking of Kornfeld's son, Andrew Kornfeld. He is not a doctor.

Oh yes you are right, he is not a doctor, but he is working in a rehab structure. So there were 3 people, two from prince entourage and one not at all, this is the reason why I guess nobody touched anything at that point

Pupa, the last time you spoke to him, did he say goodbye to you? Did you feel like you would never see him again?

herb4 said:

Bassette said:

Pupa, the last time you spoke to him, did he say goodbye to you? Did you feel like you would never see him again?

there was no goodbye and I thought to see him again..I was wrong... after his death I had a different perception about the last time we saw each other..just to be clear the relation with him was never physical...I was only so lucky to have the money to follow my love for him..and year after year we built a kind of strange friendship/relationship..this is the reason why I saw so many things for more than 25 years..band members,crew, bodyguards, womens, wiwes...

pupa1 said:

Bassette said:

Pupa, the last time you spoke to him, did he say goodbye to you? Did you feel like you would never see him again?

there was no goodbye and I thought to see him again..I was wrong... after his death I had a different perception about the last time we saw each other..just to be clear the relation with him was never physical...I was only so lucky to have the money to follow my love for him..and year after year we built a kind of strange friendship/relationship..this is the reason why I saw so many things for more than 25 years..band members,crew, bodyguards, womens, wiwes...

I wish you'd reveal who you are? do you know Morris Hayes by any chance... roadie member... one of the sound engineers?

pupa, i should warn you, it gets very nasty in here so it's up to you what you reveal/don't reveal but you might want to duck out at some point.

fortuneandserendipity said:

pupa1 said:

there was no goodbye and I thought to see him again..I was wrong... after his death I had a different perception about the last time we saw each other..just to be clear the relation with him was never physical...I was only so lucky to have the money to follow my love for him..and year after year we built a kind of strange friendship/relationship..this is the reason why I saw so many things for more than 25 years..band members,crew, bodyguards, womens, wiwes...

I wish you'd reveal who you are? do you know Morris Hayes by any chance... roadie member... one of the sound engineers?

sonshine said: