As we fight amongst ourselves AGAIN, can we please remember that we don't know anything except these two things: Prince is dead, and he died of a Fentanyl overdose. Everything else we think we know is really supposition. As far as Mayte is concerned: I read her book. She needs money, and she will do what she can do to get it. Just like lots of other people whose lives intertwined with Prince's at one time. From The Time to Sheila E. to Susannah Melvoin ... They all are on the Prince train. And we still don't have more than two facts to deal with. | |
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Exactly. Those two facts. And i for one have accepted that i won't know much more any time soon, if ever. | |
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Mayte seems to have been using them for more than a week though. The wooh is on the one! | |
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Sonshine: well said. Thank you. Yes, agree. Very well said. It really benefits no one to sweep the cause of his death under the carpet. To whisper about it behind closed doors. It only perpetuates the stigma attached to one's confession that they might need help with one aspect of an otherwise outwardly appearance of a life seemingly under control. I only empathize with the man that, for whatever unknown reasons, he had to hide his need and dependency. It must have been a tremendous burden. "Go placidly amid the noise and the haste, and remember what peace there may be in silence......." ~ DESIDERATA ~ Max Ehrmann | |
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?How would you know? You got any facts to back up your statement? | |
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Mayte seems to have been using them for more than a week though. And, so what if she did? Her prescription. Her body. Her pain. Her choice. What would be the purpose and value of judging another person's legitimate need to use this medication after a painful, invasive medical procedure/operation? This accusatory statement is the very thing that would cause someone to begin hiding their use of these medications. It might make a person seek out ways to eliminate any evidence of their use of these medications. Maybe they would go underground via the "dark web" to stay anonymous. They might purchase a very dangerous, lethal, deadly medication. They might "unintentionally" suffer the gravest of results from this initial judgmental attitude. They might die. "Go placidly amid the noise and the haste, and remember what peace there may be in silence......." ~ DESIDERATA ~ Max Ehrmann | |
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This is an incredibly odd tangent, not least of which because I have no idea what it has to do with the thread's subject (prince's death). - I'm going to assume that a woman and her doctor have the best sense of her post-surgical pain-relief needs are and leave it at that. The point of me posting those links was just to show that prescription pain killers are a common option for women after a c-section and it's not inherently weird or suspicious. - If people want to debate Mayte's 1996 post-surgical pain-management choices further, would the Associated Artists area be the right place for that? [Edited 6/13/17 11:19am] | |
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How about taking it to Mayte.org. | |
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Huh???? Laura, I wasn't the one who introduced this tangent into this thread. You had given false information about about typical post-c-section surgical pain management and in an attempt to stop a pointless and highly off-topic debate from hijacking this admittedly useless thread, I did some research and shared that here. Good lord the crazy is strong today.
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You need to lighten the fuck up it is called a joke.
Jesus. I can only tell you my experiences with a C-Section and numerous people that I know as well as what I think it is odd or not believable. I do not think she needed to have any pain meds out of the hospital. I even explained why I though it was odd. I think she asked for them probaly did not really need them and was wrong to speculate if he took them since she did not see him take them at all. She put that shit in the book to generate interest and then gets in interviews and hardly discusses it because she has no idea about what she did with those pills. ( I think she swallowed as many as she could and was high as a kite and cannot remember what was going.)
To me it was not even relevant to bring up at all. This is what I think because I do not buy everything this women is selling. It is really funny how it perfectly fine to doubt P was ever in any pain but if this women said pigs were flying in the sky some people on this board would believe it. I do not and that is my opinion thus I think sometimes this board should be renamed Mayte.org.
I also hope all of you can get a check from the book company for your endless promotion of the book and maybe get on Mayte's payroll.
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Wha??? My "endless promotion" of Mayte's book? Same as you (supposedly), I read her book, and I posted a few times about it -- IN THE MAYTE BOOK THREADS. Besides that, I can't recall mentioning her. - Now you, on the other hand... (and I'm not continuing this discussion. I'm not interested in parsing Mayte Garcia's post-surgical medical care on this thread or any other)
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maybe you can stop projecting your experience with c-sections onto other's experiences with c-sections. Maybe instead of worrying whether Mayte should've been sent home with scripts for pain medication after her c-section, you should start worrying about the stuff you project as truth, when it isn't at all factual. . BTW, it seems as if it's you who brings Mayte into every thread. . And now you think that she swallowed as many as she could and was high as a kite...........Again that is not a FACT, that is only your projection, and again this is your defamation of someone....... . You really need a reality check.
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It is my opinion and I said so in my comments. Work on your reading.
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I really think you can't read, because I already told you it wasn't a fact, you as usual were projecting. Work on your reading, and also learn how to state facts. | |
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At this point I am glad I never had children so I cannot participate in the conversation ... | |
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No I never said what I though about pain pills was a fact. I said what I think based on my experiences. You made the assumpiton that I was speaking as some pain management expert.
I simply do not believe it was neccesary for this chick to need to take home meds. This is what I think I am not saying she could not get them because she claims she did.
What we know for a fact is we have no means of verifying anything that she wrote in that book about drugs. Something you do not want to address at all.
You also refuse to read the court docs and acutally think mentioning things that are written in court docs is defamation. Something else you are wrong about and will not address.
Fact Mayte can prove nothing she wrote in that book about drugs. Fact court docs back up what I have said about SNJ and Lonnie and Kopplecrook.
Fact I had a C-Section and much more invasive surgeries that actually did require much more pain meds then I was offered for a C-Section or even needed. I do not know anyone who spent 3 days or more in the hospital and needed to take a enough pain pills so they could not actually know how many were even in the bottle.
I am done with you, Mayte, and this topic since you are going out of your way to turn this board into Mayte org.
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Having a C-section is not that bad. Some people on here are just as mellow dramatic as Mayte.
She was dealing with other issues then physical pain and people on here are not open to understanding that at all. | |
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cloveringold85 said: This makes me sad. .
So true ... | |
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Laura, as I posted before with links to reputable sites, some women have more pain that you (or your friend) apparently had from this surgery and they get prescribed pain medication. Period. - Can you either stop discussing this person or -- if you find yourself unable to stop talking about her -- take it to the Associated Artists section?
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NO, make no mistake about it, I didn't make the assumption that you were speaking as a pain management expert. I KNOW you are not a pain management expert or a DR. like you think you are. In fact, you don't have many facts when you make your statements. . Please, please be done with me, of course that is what you always do when the convo gets to hot for you to handle. My advice for you, is stop portraying your opinions as facts, because they are not facts, and when asked for facts, you run and hide. | |
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The world's problems like climate change can only be solved through strategic long-term thinking, not expediency. In other words all the govts. need sacking!
If you can add value to someone's life then why not. Especially if it colors their days... | |
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"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016) | |
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. True. None of us know what really happened or have all the facts. All we know for sure is that he died from illegal Fentanyl overdose.
"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016) | |
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. Sonshine: Are you referring to my quote? . If so, I think you are miunderstanding me. Personally, I don't think that what happened to Prince was his last gift to this world. And, you must be out of your mind, if you think that. . Are you okay with people labeling Prince as a "drug addict"? Yes, I do find that disgusting, given the fact that Prince's death is still an ongoing investigation and none of us are privy to all the facts. . How dare you say I'm disrespecting Prince's memory or legacy! That comment was going a bit too far! . I don't appreciate you twisting my words and making what I said out to be more than it actually was. . And then you go and say "So what if they are making him a poster boy!" . You also said this: Your posts have done nothing but cast a dark, ugly cloud over the org and over a great man. I dont believe Prince would look upon you with favor for your imbecile and endless arguments. You aint doing him any favors. . I am casting a dark, ugly cloud over the Org? You can't be serious! Please share all the posts of me trashing Prince...... . You are rude and totally out of line, Sonshine!
. [Edited 6/13/17 14:50pm] "With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016) | |
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. Kudos to you, Lovesymbol for saying that! The truth is, Laura has always been here for Prince, 1,000%. And, she is one of the few people here who have been closely following the case and the estate fiasco, and she knows more about what's going on than most of us!
"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016) | |
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"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016) | |
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. It's okay for people to keep talking their shit about Prince, but the minute you say something about sweet little girl, Mayte.......prepare for war!! And quite frankly, a lot of us are fed up and sick of the bullshit. . If you think Prince was a drug addict and should be labeled the poster boy for DRUGS.......then, y'all must have took a wrong turn, because this is PRINCE.ORG........ . Maybe all the haters need to start another.......PRINCE THE DRUGGIE. ORG.
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See Clover the thing is on these threads 95% of the time it's the Mayte's haters that bring her name up. If you guys don't want to mention her name, or turn it into mayte.org, then don't keep bringing her into every thread. We have a Mayte thread, although it self locked, I can always get permission to start another one. Thread after thread, the mayte haters bring her up.
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PHATPHUK: ARE YOU SPEAKING TO ME? BE DIRECT IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO ME. Don't be a coward and a bully; it's not attractive and speaks in volumes about your level of maturity. We know your history of trolling antics here. . It's easy to sit behind a computer screen and act all tough, arrogant, pompous, when there is no accountability for your actions, right? .
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. . TROLL ALERT -- TROLL ALERT -- TROLL ALERT -- TROLL ALERT "With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016) | |
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