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Reply #690 posted 06/13/17 8:34am

1Sasha

As we fight amongst ourselves AGAIN, can we please remember that we don't know anything except these two things: Prince is dead, and he died of a Fentanyl overdose. Everything else we think we know is really supposition. As far as Mayte is concerned: I read her book. She needs money, and she will do what she can do to get it. Just like lots of other people whose lives intertwined with Prince's at one time. From The Time to Sheila E. to Susannah Melvoin ... They all are on the Prince train. And we still don't have more than two facts to deal with.

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Reply #691 posted 06/13/17 9:06am

MMJas

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1Sasha said:

As we fight amongst ourselves AGAIN, can we please remember that we don't know anything except these two things: Prince is dead, and he died of a Fentanyl overdose. Everything else we think we know is really supposition. As far as Mayte is concerned: I read her book. She needs money, and she will do what she can do to get it. Just like lots of other people whose lives intertwined with Prince's at one time. From The Time to Sheila E. to Susannah Melvoin ... They all are on the Prince train. And we still don't have more than two facts to deal with.

Exactly. Those two facts. And i for one have accepted that i won't know much more any time soon, if ever.

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Reply #692 posted 06/13/17 9:26am

paulludvig

disch said:

How this has turned into a debtate about c-section pain management I have no idea, but there's this handy thing called Google:

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From BabyCenter: "You'll likely be given a prescription for more painkillers and a stool softener before you leave the hospital. You may need prescription painkillers for up to a week after surgery, gradually transitioning to over-the-counter pain relievers."

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From Healthline: "Depending on the level of your discomfort, the doctor might prescribe a pain reliever or advise you to take an over-the-counter NSAID (Advil, Motrin) or acetaminophen (Tylenol)"

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From AmericanPregnancy.org: "Talk with your health care provider about dealing with pain after the surgery. If medication is something you think you might want, get a prescription"

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SO: It sounds like, as with other surgeries, different people have different pain levels and they and their doctors work out an appropriate treatment plan for this which can include prescription pain killers.

laurarichardson said:

This is a serious question are you slow? I said she should not have needed to take home any pain pills from the hospital as you are given some in the hospital and that should be enough. You do realize that most people do have upper epidural? Are you having a mental health issue or something or cannot you not read what I typed below.Read the yellow part I heard that helps people with reading problems.

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laurarichardson said:

--I question the need to even have an Rx for Vicoden after a C section. Usually they give you a pain killer in the hospital and a few take home. Makes me wonder who was giving who drugs.

I really think you need to seek help for this Mayte worship. Now let us go back to Prince.org.

Mayte seems to have been using them for more than a week though.

The wooh is on the one!
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Reply #693 posted 06/13/17 9:27am

NotACleverName

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DD55 said:



moonsister said:


sonshine said:
I don't think it's sad at all. Not in the way you do. I like to look at it as his last gift to this world. The fact that he brought nuch needed attention to the subject has likely played a role in the significant increase in measures taken to combat opuate abuse and addiction. I'm sorry you find that disgusting. I choose to search for anything positive that can be taken from a devastating loss to so many. And honestly i think Prince would want his death to help others if thats possible. No one is making him a poater boy for anything and if they were so what? You need to deal woth your own personal hang ups with addiction because your attitude isnt the least bit helpful or respectful to his memory or his legacy. Your posts have done nothing but cast a dark, ugly cloud over the org and over a great man. I dont believe Prince would look upon you with favor for your imbecile and endless arguments. You aint doing him any favors.

yeahthat

Sonshine: well said. Thank you.


Yes, agree. Very well said.

It really benefits no one to sweep the cause of his death under the carpet. To whisper about it behind closed doors. It only perpetuates the stigma attached to one's confession that they might need help with one aspect of an otherwise outwardly appearance of a life seemingly under control. I only empathize with the man that, for whatever unknown reasons, he had to hide his need and dependency. It must have been a tremendous burden.
"Go placidly amid the noise and the haste, and remember what peace there may be in silence......." ~ DESIDERATA ~ Max Ehrmann
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Reply #694 posted 06/13/17 9:42am

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paulludvig said:

disch said:

How this has turned into a debtate about c-section pain management I have no idea, but there's this handy thing called Google:

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From BabyCenter: "You'll likely be given a prescription for more painkillers and a stool softener before you leave the hospital. You may need prescription painkillers for up to a week after surgery, gradually transitioning to over-the-counter pain relievers."

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From Healthline: "Depending on the level of your discomfort, the doctor might prescribe a pain reliever or advise you to take an over-the-counter NSAID (Advil, Motrin) or acetaminophen (Tylenol)"

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From AmericanPregnancy.org: "Talk with your health care provider about dealing with pain after the surgery. If medication is something you think you might want, get a prescription"

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SO: It sounds like, as with other surgeries, different people have different pain levels and they and their doctors work out an appropriate treatment plan for this which can include prescription pain killers.

Mayte seems to have been using them for more than a week though.

?How would you know? You got any facts to back up your statement?

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Reply #695 posted 06/13/17 10:24am

NotACleverName

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paulludvig said:



disch said:

How this has turned into a debtate about c-section pain management I have no idea, but there's this handy thing called Google: From BabyCenter: "You'll likely be given a prescription for more painkillers and a stool softener before you leave the hospital. You may need prescription painkillers for up to a week after surgery, gradually transitioning to over-the-counter pain relievers."From Healthline: "Depending on the level of your discomfort, the doctor might prescribe a pain reliever or advise you to take an over-the-counter NSAID (Advil, Motrin) or acetaminophen (Tylenol)"From AmericanPregnancy.org: "Talk with your health care provider about dealing with pain after the surgery. If medication is something you think you might want, get a prescription"SO: It sounds like, as with other surgeries, different people have different pain levels and they and their doctors work out an appropriate treatment plan for this which can include prescription pain killers.


Mayte seems to have been using them for more than a week though.


And, so what if she did? Her prescription. Her body. Her pain. Her choice.

What would be the purpose and value of judging another person's legitimate need to use this medication after a painful, invasive medical procedure/operation? This accusatory statement is the very thing that would cause someone to begin hiding their use of these medications. It might make a person seek out ways to eliminate any evidence of their use of these medications. Maybe they would go underground via the "dark web" to stay anonymous. They might purchase a very dangerous, lethal, deadly medication. They might "unintentionally" suffer the gravest of results from this initial judgmental attitude. They might die.

"Go placidly amid the noise and the haste, and remember what peace there may be in silence......." ~ DESIDERATA ~ Max Ehrmann
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Reply #696 posted 06/13/17 11:18am

disch

NotACleverName said:

paulludvig said:

Mayte seems to have been using them for more than a week though.

And, so what if she did? Her prescription. Her body. Her pain. Her choice. What would be the purpose and value of judging another person's legitimate need to use this medication after a painful, invasive medical procedure/operation? This accusatory statement is the very thing that would cause someone to begin hiding their use of these medications. It might make a person seek out ways to eliminate any evidence of their use of these medications. Maybe they would go underground via the "dark web" to stay anonymous. They might purchase a very dangerous, lethal, deadly medication. They might "unintentionally" suffer the gravest of results from this initial judgmental attitude. They might die.

yeahthat This is an incredibly odd tangent, not least of which because I have no idea what it has to do with the thread's subject (prince's death).

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I'm going to assume that a woman and her doctor have the best sense of her post-surgical pain-relief needs are and leave it at that. The point of me posting those links was just to show that prescription pain killers are a common option for women after a c-section and it's not inherently weird or suspicious.

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If people want to debate Mayte's 1996 post-surgical pain-management choices further, would the Associated Artists area be the right place for that?

[Edited 6/13/17 11:19am]

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Reply #697 posted 06/13/17 11:22am

laurarichardso
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disch said:

NotACleverName said:

paulludvig said: And, so what if she did? Her prescription. Her body. Her pain. Her choice. What would be the purpose and value of judging another person's legitimate need to use this medication after a painful, invasive medical procedure/operation? This accusatory statement is the very thing that would cause someone to begin hiding their use of these medications. It might make a person seek out ways to eliminate any evidence of their use of these medications. Maybe they would go underground via the "dark web" to stay anonymous. They might purchase a very dangerous, lethal, deadly medication. They might "unintentionally" suffer the gravest of results from this initial judgmental attitude. They might die.

yeahthat This is an incredibly odd tangent, not least of which because I have no idea what it has to do with the thread's subject (prince's death).

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I'm going to assume that a woman and her doctor have the best sense of her post-surgical pain-relief needs are and leave it at that. The point of me posting those links was just to show that prescription pain killers are a common option for women after a c-section and it's not inherently weird or suspicious.

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If people want to debate Mayte's 1996 post-surgical pain-management choices further, would the Associated Artists area be the right place for that?

[Edited 6/13/17 11:19am]

How about taking it to Mayte.org.

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Reply #698 posted 06/13/17 11:32am

disch

Huh???? Laura, I wasn't the one who introduced this tangent into this thread. You had given false information about about typical post-c-section surgical pain management and in an attempt to stop a pointless and highly off-topic debate from hijacking this admittedly useless thread, I did some research and shared that here. Good lord the crazy is strong today.

laurarichardson said:

disch said:

yeahthat This is an incredibly odd tangent, not least of which because I have no idea what it has to do with the thread's subject (prince's death).

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I'm going to assume that a woman and her doctor have the best sense of her post-surgical pain-relief needs are and leave it at that. The point of me posting those links was just to show that prescription pain killers are a common option for women after a c-section and it's not inherently weird or suspicious.

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If people want to debate Mayte's 1996 post-surgical pain-management choices further, would the Associated Artists area be the right place for that?

[Edited 6/13/17 11:19am]

How about taking it to Mayte.org.

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Reply #699 posted 06/13/17 11:50am

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You need to lighten the fuck up it is called a joke.

Jesus. I can only tell you my experiences with a C-Section and numerous people that I know as well as what I think it is odd or not believable. I do not think she needed to have any pain meds out of the hospital. I even explained why I though it was odd. I think she asked for them probaly did not really need them and was wrong to speculate if he took them since she did not see him take them at all. She put that shit in the book to generate interest and then gets in interviews and hardly discusses it because she has no idea about what she did with those pills. ( I think she swallowed as many as she could and was high as a kite and cannot remember what was going.)

To me it was not even relevant to bring up at all. This is what I think because I do not buy everything this women is selling. It is really funny how it perfectly fine to doubt P was ever in any pain but if this women said pigs were flying in the sky some people on this board would believe it. I do not and that is my opinion thus I think sometimes this board should be renamed Mayte.org.

I also hope all of you can get a check from the book company for your endless promotion of the book and maybe get on Mayte's payroll.

disch said:

Huh???? Laura, I wasn't the one who introduced this tangent into this thread. You had given false information about about typical post-c-section surgical pain management and in an attempt to stop a pointless and highly off-topic debate from hijacking this admittedly useless thread, I did some research and shared that here. Good lord the crazy is strong today.

laurarichardson said:

How about taking it to Mayte.org.

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Reply #700 posted 06/13/17 12:02pm

disch

Wha??? My "endless promotion" of Mayte's book? Same as you (supposedly), I read her book, and I posted a few times about it -- IN THE MAYTE BOOK THREADS. Besides that, I can't recall mentioning her.

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Now you, on the other hand... (and I'm not continuing this discussion. I'm not interested in parsing Mayte Garcia's post-surgical medical care on this thread or any other)

laurarichardson said:

You need to lighten the fuck up it is called a joke.

Jesus. I can only tell you my experiences with a C-Section and numerous people that I know as well as what I think it is odd or not believable. I do not think she needed to have any pain meds out of the hospital. I even explained why I though it was odd. I think she asked for them probaly did not really need them and was wrong to speculate if he took them since she did not see him take them at all. She put that shit in the book to generate interest and then gets in interviews and hardly discusses it because she has no idea about what she did with those pills. ( I think she swallowed as many as she could and was high as a kite and cannot remember what was going.)

To me it was not even relevant to bring up at all. This is what I think because I do not buy everything this women is selling. It is really funny how it perfectly fine to doubt P was ever in any pain but if this women said pigs were flying in the sky some people on this board would believe it. I do not and that is my opinion thus I think sometimes this board should be renamed Mayte.org.

I also hope all of you can get a check from the book company for your endless promotion of the book and maybe get on Mayte's payroll.

disch said:

Huh???? Laura, I wasn't the one who introduced this tangent into this thread. You had given false information about about typical post-c-section surgical pain management and in an attempt to stop a pointless and highly off-topic debate from hijacking this admittedly useless thread, I did some research and shared that here. Good lord the crazy is strong today.

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Reply #701 posted 06/13/17 12:18pm

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maybe you can stop projecting your experience with c-sections onto other's experiences with c-sections. Maybe instead of worrying whether Mayte should've been sent home with scripts for pain medication after her c-section, you should start worrying about the stuff you project as truth, when it isn't at all factual.

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BTW, it seems as if it's you who brings Mayte into every thread.

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And now you think that she swallowed as many as she could and was high as a kite...........Again that is not a FACT, that is only your projection, and again this is your defamation of someone.......

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You really need a reality check.

laurarichardson said:

You need to lighten the fuck up it is called a joke.

Jesus. I can only tell you my experiences with a C-Section and numerous people that I know as well as what I think it is odd or not believable. I do not think she needed to have any pain meds out of the hospital. I even explained why I though it was odd. I think she asked for them probaly did not really need them and was wrong to speculate if he took them since she did not see him take them at all. She put that shit in the book to generate interest and then gets in interviews and hardly discusses it because she has no idea about what she did with those pills. ( I think she swallowed as many as she could and was high as a kite and cannot remember what was going.)

To me it was not even relevant to bring up at all. This is what I think because I do not buy everything this women is selling. It is really funny how it perfectly fine to doubt P was ever in any pain but if this women said pigs were flying in the sky some people on this board would believe it. I do not and that is my opinion thus I think sometimes this board should be renamed Mayte.org.

I also hope all of you can get a check from the book company for your endless promotion of the book and maybe get on Mayte's payroll.

disch said:

Huh???? Laura, I wasn't the one who introduced this tangent into this thread. You had given false information about about typical post-c-section surgical pain management and in an attempt to stop a pointless and highly off-topic debate from hijacking this admittedly useless thread, I did some research and shared that here. Good lord the crazy is strong today.

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Reply #702 posted 06/13/17 12:20pm

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It is my opinion and I said so in my comments. Work on your reading.

PennyPurple said:

maybe you can stop projecting your experience with c-sections onto other's experiences with c-sections. Maybe instead of worrying whether Mayte should've been sent home with scripts for pain medication after her c-section, you should start worrying about the stuff you project as truth, when it isn't at all factual.

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BTW, it seems as if it's you who brings Mayte into every thread.

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And now you think that she swallowed as many as she could and was high as a kite...........Again that is not a FACT, that is only your projection, and again this is your defamation of someone.......

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You really need a reality check.

laurarichardson said:

You need to lighten the fuck up it is called a joke.

Jesus. I can only tell you my experiences with a C-Section and numerous people that I know as well as what I think it is odd or not believable. I do not think she needed to have any pain meds out of the hospital. I even explained why I though it was odd. I think she asked for them probaly did not really need them and was wrong to speculate if he took them since she did not see him take them at all. She put that shit in the book to generate interest and then gets in interviews and hardly discusses it because she has no idea about what she did with those pills. ( I think she swallowed as many as she could and was high as a kite and cannot remember what was going.)

To me it was not even relevant to bring up at all. This is what I think because I do not buy everything this women is selling. It is really funny how it perfectly fine to doubt P was ever in any pain but if this women said pigs were flying in the sky some people on this board would believe it. I do not and that is my opinion thus I think sometimes this board should be renamed Mayte.org.

I also hope all of you can get a check from the book company for your endless promotion of the book and maybe get on Mayte's payroll.

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Reply #703 posted 06/13/17 12:25pm

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laurarichardson said:

It is my opinion and I said so in my comments. Work on your reading.

PennyPurple said:

maybe you can stop projecting your experience with c-sections onto other's experiences with c-sections. Maybe instead of worrying whether Mayte should've been sent home with scripts for pain medication after her c-section, you should start worrying about the stuff you project as truth, when it isn't at all factual.

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BTW, it seems as if it's you who brings Mayte into every thread.

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And now you think that she swallowed as many as she could and was high as a kite...........Again that is not a FACT, that is only your projection, and again this is your defamation of someone.......

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You really need a reality check.

I really think you can't read, because I already told you it wasn't a fact, you as usual were projecting. Work on your reading, and also learn how to state facts.

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Reply #704 posted 06/13/17 12:43pm

1Sasha

At this point I am glad I never had children so I cannot participate in the conversation ...

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Reply #705 posted 06/13/17 12:51pm

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PennyPurple said:

laurarichardson said:

It is my opinion and I said so in my comments. Work on your reading.

I really think you can't read, because I already told you it wasn't a fact, you as usual were projecting. Work on your reading, and also learn how to state facts.

No I never said what I though about pain pills was a fact. I said what I think based on my experiences. You made the assumpiton that I was speaking as some pain management expert.

I simply do not believe it was neccesary for this chick to need to take home meds. This is what I think I am not saying she could not get them because she claims she did.

What we know for a fact is we have no means of verifying anything that she wrote in that book about drugs. Something you do not want to address at all.

You also refuse to read the court docs and acutally think mentioning things that are written in court docs is defamation. Something else you are wrong about and will not address.

Fact Mayte can prove nothing she wrote in that book about drugs.

Fact court docs back up what I have said about SNJ and Lonnie and Kopplecrook.

Fact I had a C-Section and much more invasive surgeries that actually did require much more pain meds then I was offered for a C-Section or even needed. I do not know anyone who spent 3 days or more in the hospital and needed to take a enough pain pills so they could not actually know how many were even in the bottle.

I am done with you, Mayte, and this topic since you are going out of your way to turn this board into Mayte org.

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Reply #706 posted 06/13/17 12:53pm

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1Sasha said:

At this point I am glad I never had children so I cannot participate in the conversation ...

Having a C-section is not that bad. Some people on here are just as mellow dramatic as Mayte.

She was dealing with other issues then physical pain and people on here are not open to understanding that at all.

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Reply #707 posted 06/13/17 12:53pm

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cloveringold85 said:

This makes me sad. sad cry


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So true ... sad bheart
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Reply #708 posted 06/13/17 1:04pm

disch

Laura, as I posted before with links to reputable sites, some women have more pain that you (or your friend) apparently had from this surgery and they get prescribed pain medication. Period.

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Can you either stop discussing this person or -- if you find yourself unable to stop talking about her -- take it to the Associated Artists section?

laurarichardson said:

1Sasha said:

At this point I am glad I never had children so I cannot participate in the conversation ...

Having a C-section is not that bad. Some people on here are just as mellow dramatic as Mayte.

She was dealing with other issues then physical pain and people on here are not open to understanding that at all.

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Reply #709 posted 06/13/17 1:06pm

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laurarichardson said:

PennyPurple said:

I really think you can't read, because I already told you it wasn't a fact, you as usual were projecting. Work on your reading, and also learn how to state facts.

No I never said what I though about pain pills was a fact. I said what I think based on my experiences. You made the assumpiton that I was speaking as some pain management expert.

I simply do not believe it was neccesary for this chick to need to take home meds. This is what I think I am not saying she could not get them because she claims she did.

What we know for a fact is we have no means of verifying anything that she wrote in that book about drugs. Something you do not want to address at all.

You also refuse to read the court docs and acutally think mentioning things that are written in court docs is defamation. Something else you are wrong about and will not address.

Fact Mayte can prove nothing she wrote in that book about drugs.

Fact court docs back up what I have said about SNJ and Lonnie and Kopplecrook.

Fact I had a C-Section and much more invasive surgeries that actually did require much more pain meds then I was offered for a C-Section or even needed. I do not know anyone who spent 3 days or more in the hospital and needed to take a enough pain pills so they could not actually know how many were even in the bottle.

I am done with you, Mayte, and this topic since you are going out of your way to turn this board into Mayte org.

NO, make no mistake about it, I didn't make the assumption that you were speaking as a pain management expert. I KNOW you are not a pain management expert or a DR. like you think you are. In fact, you don't have many facts when you make your statements.

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Please, please be done with me, dancing jig pray of course that is what you always do when the convo gets to hot for you to handle. My advice for you, is stop portraying your opinions as facts, because they are not facts, and when asked for facts, you run and hide.

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Reply #710 posted 06/13/17 1:39pm

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laurarichardson said:

I do not have a selective memory. I even say on t his thread I do not think she needed know weeks supply of pain meds. I even said I got one pill and another person said they only received a few. I think you get more if you ask for more and I am doubting she needed them for weeks and I have never and will never back down from that thought.

Here it is again for you so you get in in your head.

1) I do not think Mayte needed weeks of pain pills. ( Obvisouly she had more than a few days supply if she was taking them at home)

2) I think she abused the meds she received.

3) I think from her own comments she had post partum depression and medicated with those pills.

4) I find it odd that some of you think it is okay for her to have a supply of pain pills for a C-Section which is not anywhere near as invasive as any joint pain surgery but chastise Prince as abusing pills for grins and laughs.

5) I have had two kids and two very invasive surgeries and I did not get a big supply of pain meds for the C-section compared to what I received for the two surgeries.( In fact Gallbladder surgery you are put out of the hospital the same day and my supply of pills was small with no refill. I know other people who have had C-Section who did not get a big supply of pain pills to take home. I find her comments about it to be suspect and that is my opinion.

I hope this was clear enough for you and maybe one day you will actually answer my questions which are far from idiotic.

Why do you think that women is incapable of tellling tall tales to put money in her pocket, in capable of having abused pills or just some angel with wings flying out of her backside? Because to me that is idiotic.


PennyPurple said:

I guess she wouldn't have needed to get weeks of pain pills, had her husband not have been taking hers.....












laurarichardson said:

We do not know if her husband took any of her pills and in fact she does

not even know if he took any.

I am saying she did not need to take a large quanity of pills home in the

first place and if she had not taken a quanity home she would not be
confused about where they went.

If you are going to make an accusation be fucking factual. Which she is

not. Must have been all that hoku smoking and drunk youtube video
filming.





I have no idea what explanation there is for this necromancy. Maybe crones? confused



The world's problems like climate change can only be solved through strategic long-term thinking, not expediency. In other words all the govts. need sacking!

If you can add value to someone's life then why not. Especially if it colors their days...
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Reply #711 posted 06/13/17 2:40pm

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Purplestar88 said:

sonshine said:

laurarichardson said: I don't think it's sad at all. Not in the way you do. I like to look at it as his last gift to this world. The fact that he brought nuch needed attention to the subject has likely played a role in the significant increase in measures taken to combat opuate abuse and addiction. I'm sorry you find that disgusting. I choose to search for anything positive that can be taken from a devastating loss to so many. And honestly i think Prince would want his death to help others if thats possible. No one is making him a poater boy for anything and if they were so what? You need to deal woth your own personal hang ups with addiction because your attitude isnt the least bit helpful or respectful to his memory or his legacy. Your posts have done nothing but cast a dark, ugly cloud over the org and over a great man. I dont believe Prince would look upon you with favor for your imbecile and endless arguments. You aint doing him any favors.

It sad in a way because we still don't know all the details surrounding his death and people feel the need to label him without much details. It is not right to single out a person for their opinion. People have drag Prince though the mud over the years and I did not see anyone telling them they cast a dark and ugly cloud on Prince. neutral

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yeahthat

"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016)
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Reply #712 posted 06/13/17 2:42pm

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Laydown said:

Nobody knows much about his death or the investigation. Theres no point in us going in circles about it. We r all here for the same reason,WE LOVE PRINCE. I sit in my room thinking about the Moline incident,maybe that was the sign we all missed. He needed help then.he got it. Then theres the phone call to the doctor the night before he died. He was seeking help. By the time the doctors son arrived Prince was dead. They say he was deceased for 6 hours. And he died alone.

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'I know I shouldnt put my faith in heroes,but I cant c u any other way'

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True. None of us know what really happened or have all the facts. All we know for sure is that he died from illegal Fentanyl overdose.

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Reply #713 posted 06/13/17 2:49pm

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sonshine said:

laurarichardson said:

I read an article today in the Washington Post Express and his name was not mentioned at all.
So all you people who want his connected to the pain epidemic your wishes may not happen.

I don't think it's sad at all. Not in the way you do. I like to look at it as his last gift to this world. The fact that he brought nuch needed attention to the subject has likely played a role in the significant increase in measures taken to combat opuate abuse and addiction. I'm sorry you find that disgusting. I choose to search for anything positive that can be taken from a devastating loss to so many. And honestly i think Prince would want his death to help others if thats possible. No one is making him a poater boy for anything and if they were so what? You need to deal woth your own personal hang ups with addiction because your attitude isnt the least bit helpful or respectful to his memory or his legacy. Your posts have done nothing but cast a dark, ugly cloud over the org and over a great man. I dont believe Prince would look upon you with favor for your imbecile and endless arguments. You aint doing him any favors.

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Sonshine: Are you referring to my quote?

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If so, I think you are miunderstanding me. Personally, I don't think that what happened to Prince was his last gift to this world. And, you must be out of your mind, if you think that.

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Are you okay with people labeling Prince as a "drug addict"? confused Yes, I do find that disgusting, given the fact that Prince's death is still an ongoing investigation and none of us are privy to all the facts.

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How dare you say I'm disrespecting Prince's memory or legacy! That comment was going a bit too far!

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I don't appreciate you twisting my words and making what I said out to be more than it actually was.

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And then you go and say "So what if they are making him a poster boy!" rolleyes

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You also said this: Your posts have done nothing but cast a dark, ugly cloud over the org and over a great man. I dont believe Prince would look upon you with favor for your imbecile and endless arguments. You aint doing him any favors.

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I am casting a dark, ugly cloud over the Org? You can't be serious! Please share all the posts of me trashing Prince......

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You are rude and totally out of line, Sonshine!


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Reply #714 posted 06/13/17 2:55pm

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LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

PennyPurple said:

That's Laura's standard response, when she gets backed into a corner over something she said and gets caught trying to back track.

You guys tell Laura to shut up all the time, then she does not say enough, but she knows waaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyy more than you. She has been princes person in the midst of an army of hate since the beginning. I don't agree with everything she says, but I agree with a lot, Laura is prince's ultimate advocate and for that alone I am on her side

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Kudos to you, Lovesymbol for saying that! The truth is, Laura has always been here for Prince, 1,000%. And, she is one of the few people here who have been closely following the case and the estate fiasco, and she knows more about what's going on than most of us! thumbs up!

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Knock it off. You have enough sense to know everyone's stituation is different and that the mainstream media could less about Prince's health issues or anyone eles's for that matter. A lot of the problem with these meds is the fault of greedy pharma companies yet I do not see a whole lot of articles about that aspect of this issues.

Making Prince the poster boy for pain pills negates every other accompolishment he had in his life because if Van Jones and others were not discussing his charity projects and associates were not discussing his business or music you would not see any of this in the media at all.

More to this guy then a pill popper and you are being very naive if you think the media means well when they insert his name into this epidimic. It is not being done to be well meaning or to help anyone but for the purpose of generating revenue with sensational headlines.

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+1 for Sonshine.

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The first time I ever heard of fentanyl was in Prince's autopsy report -- and I'm sure I'm not the only one. I then looked into it and learned a whole lot about the opioid epidemic in general, and the major issue of deadly fentanyl contamination of other less-potent illegal opioids specifically.

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I think those who don't want Prince's name mentioned in discussions of the opioid epidemic feel that those all those other 50,000 Americans dying per year are (to use some of the words used here) "pill-popping" "junkies" who take drugs "for shits and giggles" and are "stoned off their asses" 24/7. Not one of those people have a thing in common with Prince's situation, I guess.

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LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

PennyPurple said: You guys tell Laura to shut up all the time, then she does not say enough, but she knows waaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyy more than you. She has been princes person in the midst of an army of hate since the beginning. I don't agree with everything she says, but I agree with a lot, Laura is prince's ultimate advocate and for that alone I am on her side

Thank you. I do not think Prince was some angel with wings coming out of his backside but I do not think it is cool to defame someone who is not around to defend themselves and to just do it to get a check.

He could have dragged his ex-wives in the media if he wanted to but he did not do it. He moved on with this life. He was a private person concerning his divorces to these women and no matter what went down you don't do what this chick is doing.

There is a wealth of info about this women's lies and some of the people she associates with are just awful but many of us orgers who know this stuff do not even post it. I am being told to be quite when I could post some stuff that would really make her look bad.

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It's okay for people to keep talking their shit about Prince, but the minute you say something about sweet little girl, Mayte.......prepare for war!! And quite frankly, a lot of us are fed up and sick of the bullshit.

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If you think Prince was a drug addict and should be labeled the poster boy for DRUGS.......then, y'all must have took a wrong turn, because this is PRINCE.ORG........

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Maybe all the haters need to start another.......PRINCE THE DRUGGIE. ORG. rolleyes

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See Clover the thing is on these threads 95% of the time it's the Mayte's haters that bring her name up. If you guys don't want to mention her name, or turn it into mayte.org, then don't keep bringing her into every thread. We have a Mayte thread, although it self locked, I can always get permission to start another one. Thread after thread, the mayte haters bring her up.

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Thank you. I do not think Prince was some angel with wings coming out of his backside but I do not think it is cool to defame someone who is not around to defend themselves and to just do it to get a check.

He could have dragged his ex-wives in the media if he wanted to but he did not do it. He moved on with this life. He was a private person concerning his divorces to these women and no matter what went down you don't do what this chick is doing.

There is a wealth of info about this women's lies and some of the people she associates with are just awful but many of us orgers who know this stuff do not even post it. I am being told to be quite when I could post some stuff that would really make her look bad.

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It's okay for people to keep talking their shit about Prince, but the minute you say something about sweet little girl, Mayte.......prepare for war!! And quite frankly, a lot of us are fed up and sick of the bullshit.

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If you think Prince was a drug addict and should be labeled the poster boy for DRUGS.......then, y'all must have took a wrong turn, because this is PRINCE.ORG........

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Maybe all the haters need to start another.......PRINCE THE DRUGGIE. ORG. rolleyes

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PHATPHUK: ARE YOU SPEAKING TO ME? BE DIRECT IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO ME. Don't be a coward and a bully; it's not attractive and speaks in volumes about your level of maturity. We know your history of trolling antics here.

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It's easy to sit behind a computer screen and act all tough, arrogant, pompous, when there is no accountability for your actions, right? loser

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sonshine said:

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sonshine said:

Not sure this is the right place to share these thoughts but im going to anyway. As someone who works in a clinical setting every day i am keenly aware of the current opioid epidemic and its a special interest of mine keeping up with the latest news. I dont think its a coincidence that in the last year there has been a deliberate and focused effort on many fronts to combat the issue. While every one of the lives lost due to this crisis is of extreme value i do believe that Prince's death has played a role in the increased awareness of the existence and seriousness of opiate abuse and addiction. Whatever the outcome of the investigation it gives me a bit of comfort knowing his death will not be totally in vain. Its still a tragedy that should never have happened, but the lessons learned from his death and so many others will surely save lives in the future. Still heartbreaking and senseless it had to come to this and that help was just a little too late for him. The opiate epidemic i believe will historically go down as the biggest tragedy (and set back) of modern medicine. It's hard to wrap my head around such an idea when I live in a country that is world renowned for it's quality of healthcare. Its going to take time, money, and effort but i believe we will eventually conquer this disasterous period. Thanks in part to Prince and many others who paid the ultimate price.

It's a terrible epidemic and it is truly sad how Prince is being used as the poster boy for opiod addiction. I've read countless articles about the Fentanyl epidemic and pain pill addiction and Prince's name is always being thrown in there. I think it's a travesty, considering Prince's death is still an ongoing investigation and we still do not know how he obtained those illegal (street drugs) Fentanyl pills, which he most-likely did not know he was taking.

What're your thoughts on people like Van Jones and his work with Advocates For Opioid Recovery?



Do you think it's a bad thing if somebody like Van Jones talks about Prince's accidental overdose when he's rallying to recruit more advocates for opioid recovery?

Not sure who you are asking but to your second question - No, I do not think it's a bad thing.



Sorry sonshine. I thought it was obvious to whom my reply was addressed.



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