OperatingThetan said:

1Sasha said: Prince wasn't improperly dressed. It was his habit to wear his clothes backwards and this has been confirmed by friends. There's no evidence he was 'tossed' into the elevator.

laurarichardson said:

No, it was only said by La La that he sometimes wore his jacket backwards. Who the hell put their socks on backwards? Especially if they are trying to walk or run to get help. Does that make any sense? All we know is the security cameras were turned off in a building that going by the Carver County Logs had people jumping the fence all the time.

fortuneandserendipity said:

"Covfefe". Prince likely put his socks on backwards. Prince likely turned the security cameras off.

Now remind me, that principle Phatphuk referred to I think... Occam's razor. Yup, the straightforward answer is the likeliest one. I predict your response will be 'covfefe'!

laurarichardson said:

No one said he did not turn off the cameras or put his socks on backwards it is weird that is all that was said go back to not paying attention to what is being discussed and sticking your head in the sand.

No sense as usual

You conspiracy nuts have insinuated many times on these threads that the security cameras were turned off surreptitiously allowing alleged murderer to cover his tracks... And that the backwards clothes found on Prince was not his doing. Stupid conspiracy nonsense

It's actually offensive to see some of this rubbish over and over again. (Not dissimilar really to holocaust denial or 9/11 being an inside job). Do you actually think any one of his remaining family, or closest associates are happy to entertain your rubbish?

Laydown said:

Prince died of drugs. Unfortunate as it is no one made him take drugs so how can it be a homicide?

Quite. Probably the only people not accepting of this theory are those with personality disorders

fortuneandserendipity said:

Laydown said:

Prince died of drugs. Unfortunate as it is no one made him take drugs so how can it be a homicide?

Quite. Probably the only people not accepting of this theory are those with personality disorders

The word homicide is a sort of a catch-all term, there are various degrees of homicide. You both should read this and see that it does indeed apply to this situation: http://www.nolo.com/legal...32637.html

Mumio said:

Laydown said:

Yes, it's true that as far as we know there's an ongoing investigation, likely into the source Prince used to supply him with illegal drugs. But we all know there's a differnece between trying to identify and charge Prince's drug dealer(s), and someone intentionally plotting the death of Prince. It's the latter that people here are disputing.

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Obviously, if Prince bought/accepted illegal drugs, by definition ("illegal") that's a crime (committed by Prince, as well as by the provider). That scenario is not a point of dispute or debate by a single person.

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And there's no need to be snide and sarcastic. Why not make the choice to speak nicely to people?

laurarichardson said:

Laydown said:

Prince died of drugs. Unfortunate as it is no one made him take drugs so how can it be a homicide?

--What part of this do you not understand? The police have called this an active homicide investigation and in Minnesota if the find the person who sold Prince the drugs they can be charged with third degree murder. This is not made up and has nothing to do with any conspiracy this is information that came from the police and can be easily researched rather then wasting your time saying how can it be? It is the law.

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disch said:

Laydown said:

Laydown said:

Laydown said:

Not even accesory to manslaughter if there is such a thing. That would mean bog pharma could get sued all the time.

Sorry, but you are wrong. Carver County has identified this as an active homicide investigation. Here's a link for you: http://www.fox9.com/news/...1412-story and here is the related prosecutor's request to reseal the documents: http://www.mncourts.gov/m...ex-26.pdf

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Mumio said:

Laydown said:

Not even accesory to manslaughter if there is such a thing. That would mean bog pharma could get sued all the time.

Sorry, but you are wrong. Carver County has identified this as an active homicide investigation. Here's a link for you: http://www.fox9.com/news/...1412-story

they've had Kirk's phone for months now and he is still free. Sorry, but he ain't the murderer. I have read Mexico also has big illegal opioid operations, as well as China. Could be Prince used throw away phones for drug purchases.

moonsister said:

Mumio said:

Sorry, but you are wrong. Carver County has identified this as an active homicide investigation. Here's a link for you: http://www.fox9.com/news/...1412-story

they've had Kirk's phone for months now and he is still free. Sorry, but he ain't the murderer. I have read Mexico also has big illegal opioid operations, as well as China. Could be Prince used throw away phones for drug purchases.

What are you talking about?

Mumio said:

Laydown said:

Toxocologist said it was a tragic accident bordering on homicide.

Laydown said:

Someone gave those drugs to Prince. He wasn't on the street scoring himself. He didn't have boxes shipped in from Mexico or China that Meron signed for from UPS or FedEx or whatever. Who physically handed over the drugs to Prince? That is the issue here. Prince did ingest them, but that last night ... Too many unanswered questions.

1Sasha said:

Someone gave those drugs to Prince. He wasn't on the street scoring himself. He didn't have boxes shipped in from Mexico or China that Meron signed for from UPS or FedEx or whatever. Who physically handed over the drugs to Prince? That is the issue here. Prince did ingest them, but that last night ... Too many unanswered questions.

I know but we have people on this board who are contiuning to ignore actual police statements and court documents.

laurarichardson said:

1Sasha said:

Someone gave those drugs to Prince. He wasn't on the street scoring himself. He didn't have boxes shipped in from Mexico or China that Meron signed for from UPS or FedEx or whatever. Who physically handed over the drugs to Prince? That is the issue here. Prince did ingest them, but that last night ... Too many unanswered questions.

I know but we have people on this board who are contiuning to ignore actual police statements and court documents.

If anyone knows anything they wont tell. Let me ask u this. if u were in PP and u knew who it was would u give the person up to the cops?

1Sasha said:

Someone gave those drugs to Prince. He wasn't on the street scoring himself. He didn't have boxes shipped in from Mexico or China that Meron signed for from UPS or FedEx or whatever. Who physically handed over the drugs to Prince? That is the issue here. Prince did ingest them, but that last night ... Too many unanswered questions.

The photo of him walking over to the car looks like hes carrying something.

Laydown said:

laurarichardson said:

I know but we have people on this board who are contiuning to ignore actual police statements and court documents.

If anyone knows anything they wont tell. Let me ask u this. if u were in PP and u knew who it was would u give the person up to the cops?

Damn straight I would. My loyalty would have been to the man, not the paycheck he gave me.

1Sasha said:

Laydown said:

laurarichardson said:

I know but we have people on this board who are contiuning to ignore actual police statements and court documents.

If anyone knows anything they wont tell. Let me ask u this. if u were in PP and u knew who it was would u give the person up to the cops?

In a New York minute. Maybe because I make my own way in life and I am not a vultrue seeking joy and profit in someone's death.

moonsister said:

1Sasha said:

Damn straight I would. My loyalty would have been to the man, not the paycheck he gave me.

You'd be looking over your shoulder the rest of your life.

loyalty is everything but paisley seemed like the kind of place where its all about Prince and his privacy. Dont think he'd want you to go to the police to report on someone,espcially about a drug problem no one ever knew he had. Ive loved Prince for more than 25 years,i never wouldve guessed he'd die from drugs.

I have been saying this for a long time ... "Those people" - the ones who saw him everyday or nearly every day knew what was going on. They had to. And they put their paychecks and his privacy concerns apparently ahead of his health. There is an interview making the rounds with a Scottie Baldwin (I think I have the name right) who left Prince during the Australian P + A M tour. Prince begged him to come back and this fellow said he was glad he left because of what was happening (I am paraphrasing). He said he was the one who said "no." "No" to what he didn't say, but I think we can all guess what was going on. Anyone who looked at Prince - even in photos - those last six months had to know he was in trouble.

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1Sasha said:

I have been saying this for a long time ... "Those people" - the ones who saw him everyday or nearly every day knew what was going on. They had to. And they put their paychecks and his privacy concerns apparently ahead of his health. There is an interview making the rounds with a Scottie Baldwin (I think I have the name right) who left Prince during the Australian P + A M tour. Prince begged him to come back and this fellow said he was glad he left because of what was happening (I am paraphrasing). He said he was the one who said "no." "No" to what he didn't say, but I think we can all guess what was going on. Anyone who looked at Prince - even in photos - those last six months had to know he was in trouble.

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I live with people in my house and they never knew i had a drug problem until i decided to give up and then i told them. Drug addiction is easier to hide if people are unaware of it.

1Sasha said:

I have been saying this for a long time ... "Those people" - the ones who saw him everyday or nearly every day knew what was going on. They had to. And they put their paychecks and his privacy concerns apparently ahead of his health. There is an interview making the rounds with a Scottie Baldwin (I think I have the name right) who left Prince during the Australian P + A M tour. Prince begged him to come back and this fellow said he was glad he left because of what was happening (I am paraphrasing). He said he was the one who said "no." "No" to what he didn't say, but I think we can all guess what was going on. Anyone who looked at Prince - even on photos - those last six months had to know he was in trouble.

Yes, but Scottie did an interview with Dr. Funkenberry and he and Prince got into all the time. He had worked for Prince off and on for almost 30 years and he did say in the Podcast he fully expected to come back and work for him again. He had complained in the Funk podcast that Prince would often change the setlist at the last minute and go off if the sound was not right.

He may have left because he got tired of his demands. The truth of the matter is we know what he died from so no need for people to stick to their stories about never seeing him high. It is possible that he had an RX and a dependency on the pain pills and things had only recently taken a turn for the worst. I believe people when they say he they never saw him take drugs ( would he have been so stupid to do it in front of people? ) I believe Andrian Crutchfield when he said he never saw him hight in 3 years that he worked for him. I do not believe Prince was abusing pain pills for decades but I do believe something happend that caused him to excelerate his use of these meds and I keep wondering if he may have been in a no-win stituation where not using them at all was not an option.

I know a no option stituation would be the only reason I would not be talking to the cops anything else I would talk in a minute.

This is the main reason I believe he had an underlying illness. Anyway it does not matter because everybody is out to make a buck right now so it is obvious he had very few real friends.

These people could open their mouths and explain what "We don't know the whole story means" but they are too busy writting books and standing in Prince's place on stage being deluded.

Laydown said:

1Sasha said:

I have been saying this for a long time ... "Those people" - the ones who saw him everyday or nearly every day knew what was going on. They had to. And they put their paychecks and his privacy concerns apparently ahead of his health. There is an interview making the rounds with a Scottie Baldwin (I think I have the name right) who left Prince during the Australian P + A M tour. Prince begged him to come back and this fellow said he was glad he left because of what was happening (I am paraphrasing). He said he was the one who said "no." "No" to what he didn't say, but I think we can all guess what was going on. Anyone who looked at Prince - even in photos - those last six months had to know he was in trouble.

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I live with people in my house and they never knew i had a drug problem until i decided to give up and then i told them. Drug addiction is easier to hide if people are unaware of it.

These are people in the entertainment industry they are not unaware of drug use.

1Sasha said: