laurarichardson said:

OperatingThetan said:

1Sasha said: Prince wasn't improperly dressed. It was his habit to wear his clothes backwards and this has been confirmed by friends. There's no evidence he was 'tossed' into the elevator.

No, it was only said by La La that he sometimes wore his jacket backwards. Who the hell put their socks on backwards? Especially if they are trying to walk or run to get help. Does that make any sense? All we know is the security cameras were turned off in a building that going by the Carver County Logs had people jumping the fence all the time.

"Covfefe". Prince likely put his socks on backwards. Prince likely turned the security cameras off.

Now remind me, that principle Phatphuk referred to I think... Occam's razor. Yup, the straightforward answer is the likeliest one. I predict your response will be 'covfefe'!

fortuneandserendipity said:

How is Donald Trump's stupid tweets relevant here?

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moonsister said:

herb4 said:

A lot of records that are paid for with public funds aren't publicly available to everyone: DMV records, medical records for people covered by medicare, tax returns (would help with our current president ) etc.

1Sasha said:

If the taxpayers paid for the autopsy, it should be public record.

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1Sasha said:

If the taxpayers paid for the autopsy, it should be public record.

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Minnesota law says autopsy reports are sealed for 30-years.

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I'm not sure who paid for Prince's autopsy, but I know that George Lopez paid for his cremation, which I find quite strange.

herb4 said:

When was the drug test administered to Prince?

Some more questions

1.) Doesnt music that results from 'tripping balls" usually have a trippy or experimental feel to it. It is also usually original music. Prince's last tour required him to remember a great deal of his back catalogue. It required control, precision and memory.

2.) Why do people make excuses for enablers. I get doing what your boss tells you to. But helping him break the law and helping him basically kill himself -- most people with half a conscience and half a brain would probably just give up the job at that point. After all, what good is it to have your meal ticket die and you go to jail? Enablers are probably partaking in the same behavior as the star I imagine.

3.) Yes, Prince could be "my way or the highway". But Prince going through extreme withdrawal symptoms and addiction is not going to exactly be able to keep track of what he is doing. It would be harder for him to enforce his will under those circumstances.

I do think that maybe just maybe the reason KJ's name is on the prescription pills is that he thought that offering P legitimate drugs presecriped by his doctor (Shulbarg was KJ's doctor and KJ also had dance related pain and was an athlete) would help counter or be an alternative to Prince's use of street pills. Maybe he didn't realize Prince still had all those counterfit pills in his stash. So, he enabled to a point but didn't enable the scarier usage. So the question remains, how did Prince get the scary stuff? If it wasn't KJ (I hope not) than who gave it to him? IF KJ is innocent of this, then mystery still remains. IF it obviously was KJ (which I would think would be somewhat easy to determine by the police) then why isn't that dude in jail yet?

kmama07 said:

herb4 said:

And oh yeah. People keep bringing up the lack of fentanyl in his system as some sort of red flag or contradictory evidence.

8 - 24 hours is enough to clear fentanyl from any drug test.

https://newlifehouse.com/...ur-system/


So the lack of any traces of it in his system really doesn't tell us anything beyond that he hadn't injested it within a day or 2 of the test. I seriously doubt Prince intentionally took fent. The simplest explanation for what happened is that the level of his addiciton, combined with the DEA rescheduling these drugs and making them harder to get (no matter WHO you are), led Prince to the black market where he likely enlisted the aid of a personal friend to help him procure what he needed. These (street level) drugs are not regulated at all and it's incredibly common for people who inadvertantly got hooked on hydro or percs or something to seek out anything to curb the withdrawals. Often it's black market garbage made in China.

The fact that Prince had these things laying around in vitmain bottles and shit only speaks louder to the issue of an addict who's out of control; and imagine how easy it would be to fuel this habit for someone with Prince's means, power and income level.

See also: The dramatic spike in heroin use for further evidence of what I'm talking about, which coincided chronologically with the exact moment in time that the DEA began cracking down on pill mills and Dr. Feelgoods. Like I said, his friends and his employees DID AS THEY WERE TOLD/ASKED. Full stop. Point blank. They were usually asked to sign non disclosure agreements, agree to searches and other odd things to confirm their loyalty to him. It's how he wanted it and and Prince usually got what he wanted.

His inner cirlce did what HE SAID if they wanted to stay in the Purple Party and remain employed in what must have been a pretty cool job. Playing in a tight as hell funk band with one of our generation's greatest talents and songwriters sure as shit must have beat working at WalMart.

Lastly, as "anti drug" as Prince was and proclaimed to be, when it's PRESCRIBED, to a large extent, the stigma is lifted and, in the mind of the addict, it's Not The Same Thing as pushing spikes in your arm or snorting rails off of mirrors. Or even ripping bong hits. But then, once you're hooked, you're hooked and it doesn't really matter. And Prince was hooked. The evidence is clear and it's a fucking shame but it doesn't lessen his accomplishments and we don't have to make up excuses for him nor cast wild aspersions against his friends and employers motivated by some misguided attempt to "protect his image" or his legacy. The sooner the conspiracy minded crowd around here faces up to it, the sooner you'll find peace and closure with what really happened.

Because it's all right there and plain as day.

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moonsister said:

herb4 said:

And oh yeah. People keep bringing up the lack of fentanyl in his system as some sort of red flag or contradictory evidence.

8 - 24 hours is enough to clear fentanyl from any drug test.

https://newlifehouse.com/...ur-system/


So the lack of any traces of it in his system really doesn't tell us anything beyond that he hadn't injested it within a day or 2 of the test. I seriously doubt Prince intentionally took fent. The simplest explanation for what happened is that the level of his addiciton, combined with the DEA rescheduling these drugs and making them harder to get (no matter WHO you are), led Prince to the black market where he likely enlisted the aid of a personal friend to help him procure what he needed. These (street level) drugs are not regulated at all and it's incredibly common for people who inadvertantly got hooked on hydro or percs or something to seek out anything to curb the withdrawals. Often it's black market garbage made in China.

The fact that Prince had these things laying around in vitmain bottles and shit only speaks louder to the issue of an addict who's out of control; and imagine how easy it would be to fuel this habit for someone with Prince's means, power and income level.

See also: The dramatic spike in heroin use for further evidence of what I'm talking about, which coincided chronologically with the exact moment in time that the DEA began cracking down on pill mills and Dr. Feelgoods. Like I said, his friends and his employees DID AS THEY WERE TOLD/ASKED. Full stop. Point blank. They were usually asked to sign non disclosure agreements, agree to searches and other odd things to confirm their loyalty to him. It's how he wanted it and and Prince usually got what he wanted.

His inner cirlce did what HE SAID if they wanted to stay in the Purple Party and remain employed in what must have been a pretty cool job. Playing in a tight as hell funk band with one of our generation's greatest talents and songwriters sure as shit must have beat working at WalMart.

Lastly, as "anti drug" as Prince was and proclaimed to be, when it's PRESCRIBED, to a large extent, the stigma is lifted and, in the mind of the addict, it's Not The Same Thing as pushing spikes in your arm or snorting rails off of mirrors. Or even ripping bong hits. But then, once you're hooked, you're hooked and it doesn't really matter. And Prince was hooked. The evidence is clear and it's a fucking shame but it doesn't lessen his accomplishments and we don't have to make up excuses for him nor cast wild aspersions against his friends and employers motivated by some misguided attempt to "protect his image" or his legacy. The sooner the conspiracy minded crowd around here faces up to it, the sooner you'll find peace and closure with what really happened.

Because it's all right there and plain as day.

It was the ME that said he was not a long term user of Fentenyl and I am sure their were test conducted doing the autophsy that made her come to that conclusion. In addtion, outside of the mislabled pills they found no bottles of labled Fentenyl in Paisley Park. But hey you know more than the ME.

NotACleverName said:

moonsister said:

I don't think he was murdered but I have questions about Tyka's remark about knowing for 2 years he was going to die. If drug dependency was his only health issue then you bet I'll be suspicious of her ridiculous "grief" over losing her brother and I hope Londell and Bremer and whoever else cause her to lose tons of money.

Tyka was a reformed drug addict. Would imagine she was all too intimately familiar with the signs and symptoms of one who could be abusing drugs. Would also presume, as she had most likely "lived it", that she could predict where the path of Prince's drug use might lead. In that regard, her statement is no mystery and simply reflects her knowledge of illicit drug use and it's potential outcome. Also, no one here knows if she attempted to intervene. She may have begged and pleaded with him numerous times to seek help. The fact that she isn't giving constant interviews attesting to her involvement does not indicate she was merely a complicit bystander. Furthermore, this constant rehashing of speculated unknowns (who dropped him off? why were his clothes backwards and/or inside out? why the elevator? why half and quarter pills?) about this event only serves to delay one's acceptance that Prince is forever gone.

In that regard, her statement is no mystery and simply reflects her knowledge of illicit drug use and it's potential outcome.

No it is does not. Unless you think she knew he was going to die from a drug overdoes in exactly two years.

laurarichardson said:

NotACleverName said:

laurarichardson said:

In that regard, her statement is no mystery and simply reflects her knowledge of illicit drug use and it's potential outcome.

No it is does not. Unless you think she knew he was going to die from a drug overdoes in exactly two years.

For me, it does. Aamof, if it had been one year or three years, rather than two, then she would have started by saying "I knew one year ago....."/"I knew three years ago.....". The two year statement is not rigid, it's fluid. Who's to say that she and Prince didn't have a heart to heart in 2014 when Prince admitted he knew the potential consequences of his drug use? And in that conversation, and with understanding that risk, told her he had done all he'd come to do (not verbatim, obvs). From the information that has been presented, the catalyst for the timeline fits.

The two years is not fluid if you watched the interview it is definite because she said I knew two years ago and I was still not ready. She said two and she meant two. IF he knew he was going to die in two years I doubt he would have 9 shows lined up and more in the fall with a whole another band.

There are signed contracts and promoters who have said he had future plans. Also it makes no sense to plan to die from an overdose two years ahead when their are meds to ween you off of pain meds and people only die from them when they take to many or mix them with other drugs since they usually make you vomit.

If he planned to die it was suicide but still why make any plans and why bother seeing Dr. S for withdrawals or have a meeting with Dr. K?

I firmly believe he was ill with something else and once he got his masters back he was done worrying about it. Thus taking pain killers and continuing to work until the day the end was coming. Whatever it was I believe he did not even bother seeking treatment or had some treatment in the past under an assumed name.

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NotACleverName said:

laurarichardson said:

In that regard, her statement is no mystery and simply reflects her knowledge of illicit drug use and it's potential outcome.

No it is does not. Unless you think she knew he was going to die from a drug overdoes in exactly two years.

For me, it does. Aamof, if it had been one year or three years, rather than two, then she would have started by saying "I knew one year ago....."/"I knew three years ago.....". The two year statement is not rigid, it's fluid. Who's to say that she and Prince didn't have a heart to heart in 2014 when Prince admitted he knew the potential consequences of his drug use? And in that conversation, and with understanding that risk, told her he had done all he'd come to do (not verbatim, obvs). From the information that has been presented, the catalyst for the timeline fits.

I always interpreted the remark, he has done all he has come to do as Prince was slowing down and not as creative as he once was. I never took it as he was preparing for his death or it was an indication of death.

You can help someone with an addiction if that person does not want help. Tyka is aware of that. She had to overcome her addiction. I imagine it is very hard and difficult.

Prince's death is tragic, but I do not believe it was intentional murder or some conspiracy. My heart goes out to Prince's family, particularly Tyka. She is greiving, and struggling with the Estate.

I think Prince took pain pills just for that reason, pain. To me the why is not all that important. I too in the beginning could not accept it. All this does it shows us that Prince was human and had his faults, just like everyone. I don't think Prince was a "junkie" and giving head to get a fix. I think at some point, he was cut off due to the change in laws.

I believe that he tried to withdraw by himself but couldn't between the withdrawl symptons and pain.

I believe he struggled and the last week, someone in his inner circle talked with him, the Kornfields were mentioned and Prince agreed to it. In the process, he managed his pain by self medicating. Since he was cut off, he got a supply from the street.

I think Kirk and Dr S wised up and lawyered up because when they were interviewed, 3rd degree homicide may have been mentioned and they are covering their asses.

LE is more interested in trying to find the supplier and then go up the chain to try to shut down the maker/distributor.

The illicit pills are not made at a controlled lab like regular meds. These are not pills that Wal-Greens or CVS distributes.

Tyka's remark of receiving the call saying "He is gone" is not unusual. When my dad passed, my brother called me and in essence said the same thing.

Tyka has been criticized for everything she has said or done. From the cheetos to the 2 year thing. She is coping with her loss of her brother, her blood, her family. Maybe we should take our criticisms of her and look inwards at us. We are not due or allowed the autopsy report. Prince was private, should we not respect his wishes on that? There is a lot we do not know or are privy to.

Sorry to rant and vent. Splitting hairs on labels and defining addiction and junkie or druggie has got to stop.

Perhaps Prince took pain pills so he could continue to work and perform. And no, I am not saying high, but free of pain. I do not know why he took the meds, but I am sure he had some logic to it. I have never met the man. All I can say is that the public will have their opinion of Prince regardless. Prince never worried about what others thought or labeled him. Why should we? I thought that Prince would live forever. I was shocked and hurt just like everyone else. But in true Prince fashion, he is living forever in his work and philnanthropy.

As fans, fams, whatever, we should continue his legacy by supporting his music, PP and allowing future generations to enjoy what we has the privilige and honor to witness, Prince and his artistic creations.

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OperatingThetan said:

There is nothing to suggest Tyka is a reliable source or that Prince even spoke to her in the context of his possible death. As his passing was caused by an accidental overdose her comment doesn't really make any sense anyway. If Tyka does this reality show we'll see her for how unreliable and untrustworthy she really is as nothing could be further from Prince's values and wishes and she knows it.

She is his sister and that makes her a reliable source and she has said that he told her he did not want an elaborate funeral thus cremation so they did talk about his passing.

Her comment does not make sense concerning the overdose because she was not expecting him to die from an overdose. She expected him to die from something else she just did not know when or he told her he was going to kill himself. Her answer only makes sense for those two senerios.

He was preparing for something and we will know if the Tidal suit goes to court because they claim that he gave someone the POA for him. Do you really think Prince would give anyone POA if he thought he was going to be around or conscious.

Tidal has a court date set and they would not be moving forward to a trial if they did not have some proof of their claims. Since we now know about the fraud by Lonnie and Kopplecrock we can only assume that Tidal claims may very well be true.

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laurarichardson said:

OperatingThetan said:

There is nothing to suggest Tyka is a reliable source or that Prince even spoke to her in the context of his possible death. As his passing was caused by an accidental overdose her comment doesn't really make any sense anyway. If Tyka does this reality show we'll see her for how unreliable and untrustworthy she really is as nothing could be further from Prince's values and wishes and she knows it.

She is his sister and that makes her a reliable source and she has said that he told her he did not want an elaborate funeral thus cremation so they did talk about his passing.

Her comment does not make sense concerning the overdose because she was not expecting him to die from an overdose. She expected him to die from something else she just did not know when or he told her he was going to kill himself. Her answer only makes sense for those two senerios.

He was preparing for something and we will know if the Tidal suit goes to court because they claim that he gave someone the POA for him. Do you really think Prince would give anyone POA if he thought he was going to be around or conscious.

Tidal has a court date set and they would not be moving forward to a trial if they did not have some proof of their claims. Since we now know about the fraud by Lonnie and Kopplecrock we can only assume that Tidal claims may very well be true.

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and there you have it

Agreed.

OperatingThetan said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

OperatingThetan said:

There is nothing to suggest Tyka is a reliable source or that Prince even spoke to her in the context of his possible death. As his passing was caused by an accidental overdose her comment doesn't really make any sense anyway. If Tyka does this reality show we'll see her for how unreliable and untrustworthy she really is as nothing could be further from Prince's values and wishes and she knows it.

Agree...Tyka and KJs words about Prince came after he is no longer here to tell the truth. Still not buying either of their stories.

How eles would her comment make sense?

nelcp777 said:

NotACleverName said:

laurarichardson said: For me, it does. Aamof, if it had been one year or three years, rather than two, then she would have started by saying "I knew one year ago....."/"I knew three years ago.....". The two year statement is not rigid, it's fluid. Who's to say that she and Prince didn't have a heart to heart in 2014 when Prince admitted he knew the potential consequences of his drug use? And in that conversation, and with understanding that risk, told her he had done all he'd come to do (not verbatim, obvs). From the information that has been presented, the catalyst for the timeline fits.

I always interpreted the remark, he has done all he has come to do as Prince was slowing down and not as creative as he once was. I never took it as he was preparing for his death or it was an indication of death.

You can help someone with an addiction if that person does not want help. Tyka is aware of that. She had to overcome her addiction. I imagine it is very hard and difficult.

Prince's death is tragic, but I do not believe it was intentional murder or some conspiracy. My heart goes out to Prince's family, particularly Tyka. She is greiving, and struggling with the Estate.

I think Prince took pain pills just for that reason, pain. To me the why is not all that important. I too in the beginning could not accept it. All this does it shows us that Prince was human and had his faults, just like everyone. I don't think Prince was a "junkie" and giving head to get a fix. I think at some point, he was cut off due to the change in laws.

I believe that he tried to withdraw by himself but couldn't between the withdrawl symptons and pain.

I believe he struggled and the last week, someone in his inner circle talked with him, the Kornfields were mentioned and Prince agreed to it. In the process, he managed his pain by self medicating. Since he was cut off, he got a supply from the street.

I think Kirk and Dr S wised up and lawyered up because when they were interviewed, 3rd degree homicide may have been mentioned and they are covering their asses.

LE is more interested in trying to find the supplier and then go up the chain to try to shut down the maker/distributor.

The illicit pills are not made at a controlled lab like regular meds. These are not pills that Wal-Greens or CVS distributes.

Tyka's remark of receiving the call saying "He is gone" is not unusual. When my dad passed, my brother called me and in essence said the same thing.

Tyka has been criticized for everything she has said or done. From the cheetos to the 2 year thing. She is coping with her loss of her brother, her blood, her family. Maybe we should take our criticisms of her and look inwards at us. We are not due or allowed the autopsy report. Prince was private, should we not respect his wishes on that? There is a lot we do not know or are privy to.

Sorry to rant and vent. Splitting hairs on labels and defining addiction and junkie or druggie has got to stop.

Perhaps Prince took pain pills so he could continue to work and perform. And no, I am not saying high, but free of pain. I do not know why he took the meds, but I am sure he had some logic to it. I have never met the man. All I can say is that the public will have their opinion of Prince regardless. Prince never worried about what others thought or labeled him. Why should we? I thought that Prince would live forever. I was shocked and hurt just like everyone else. But in true Prince fashion, he is living forever in his work and philnanthropy.

As fans, fams, whatever, we should continue his legacy by supporting his music, PP and allowing future generations to enjoy what we has the privilige and honor to witness, Prince and his artistic creations.

[Edited 6/1/17 8:23am]

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It seems to me that when Tyka got the call that Prince was "Gone", that they were awaiting his death. This also suggests to me that Prince was terminally-ill and in the "end stage" of his life. Maybe he was dying with a disease and he chose to spend his last days at Paisley Park?

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One of the things I have a problem with is the way he died (and being alone), and how he was found (elevator).

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But like other's have said, a lot of Tyka's statements are questionable.

cloveringold85 said:

nelcp777 said:

I always interpreted the remark, he has done all he has come to do as Prince was slowing down and not as creative as he once was. I never took it as he was preparing for his death or it was an indication of death.

You can help someone with an addiction if that person does not want help. Tyka is aware of that. She had to overcome her addiction. I imagine it is very hard and difficult.

Prince's death is tragic, but I do not believe it was intentional murder or some conspiracy. My heart goes out to Prince's family, particularly Tyka. She is greiving, and struggling with the Estate.

I think Prince took pain pills just for that reason, pain. To me the why is not all that important. I too in the beginning could not accept it. All this does it shows us that Prince was human and had his faults, just like everyone. I don't think Prince was a "junkie" and giving head to get a fix. I think at some point, he was cut off due to the change in laws.

I believe that he tried to withdraw by himself but couldn't between the withdrawl symptons and pain.

I believe he struggled and the last week, someone in his inner circle talked with him, the Kornfields were mentioned and Prince agreed to it. In the process, he managed his pain by self medicating. Since he was cut off, he got a supply from the street.

I think Kirk and Dr S wised up and lawyered up because when they were interviewed, 3rd degree homicide may have been mentioned and they are covering their asses.

LE is more interested in trying to find the supplier and then go up the chain to try to shut down the maker/distributor.

The illicit pills are not made at a controlled lab like regular meds. These are not pills that Wal-Greens or CVS distributes.

Tyka's remark of receiving the call saying "He is gone" is not unusual. When my dad passed, my brother called me and in essence said the same thing.

Tyka has been criticized for everything she has said or done. From the cheetos to the 2 year thing. She is coping with her loss of her brother, her blood, her family. Maybe we should take our criticisms of her and look inwards at us. We are not due or allowed the autopsy report. Prince was private, should we not respect his wishes on that? There is a lot we do not know or are privy to.

Sorry to rant and vent. Splitting hairs on labels and defining addiction and junkie or druggie has got to stop.

Perhaps Prince took pain pills so he could continue to work and perform. And no, I am not saying high, but free of pain. I do not know why he took the meds, but I am sure he had some logic to it. I have never met the man. All I can say is that the public will have their opinion of Prince regardless. Prince never worried about what others thought or labeled him. Why should we? I thought that Prince would live forever. I was shocked and hurt just like everyone else. But in true Prince fashion, he is living forever in his work and philnanthropy.

As fans, fams, whatever, we should continue his legacy by supporting his music, PP and allowing future generations to enjoy what we has the privilige and honor to witness, Prince and his artistic creations.

[Edited 6/1/17 8:23am]

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It seems to me that when Tyka got the call that Prince was "Gone", that they were awaiting his death. This also suggests to me that Prince was terminally-ill and in the "end stage" of his life. Maybe he was dying with a disease and he chose to spend his last days at Paisley Park?

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One of the things I have a problem with is the way he died (and being alone), and how he was found (elevator).

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But like other's have said, a lot of Tyka's statements are questionable.

But who tells someone their brother is dead by simply stating their gone? Like I said before he gave anyone POA that will tell us something.

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laurarichardson said:

cloveringold85 said:

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It seems to me that when Tyka got the call that Prince was "Gone", that they were awaiting his death. This also suggests to me that Prince was terminally-ill and in the "end stage" of his life. Maybe he was dying with a disease and he chose to spend his last days at Paisley Park?

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One of the things I have a problem with is the way he died (and being alone), and how he was found (elevator).

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But like other's have said, a lot of Tyka's statements are questionable.

But who tells someone their brother is dead by simply stating their gone? Like I said before he gave anyone POA that will tell us something.

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I agree. I find her comment perplexing, to say the least. Like I said, given the words they chose, it seems like they were expecting him to go at any time. If you have a loved one who is terminaly-ill and in the hospital and you know their days are numbered, then that is a different story, but out of nowhere it's like Prince is gone, and saying "he's gone" makes it sound like they knew it was going to happen.

cloveringold85 said:

laurarichardson said:

But who tells someone their brother is dead by simply stating their gone? Like I said before he gave anyone POA that will tell us something.

[Edited 6/1/17 12:34pm]

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I agree. I find her comment perplexing, to say the least. Like I said, given the words they chose, it seems like they were expecting him to go at any time. If you have a loved one who is terminaly-ill and in the hospital and you know their days are numbered, then that is a different story, but out of nowhere it's like Prince is gone, and saying "he's gone" makes it sound like they knew it was going to happen.

Exactly unless you are planning to overdose on drugs and giving people the day and time it had to be an illness that was going on.

If it was suicide then that means he sat it up to look like an o.d which I find hard to believe just because of the plans he had for the next day and obvisoulsy not getting more things stituated as only a few things appear to be in place.

Also Meriam and KJ are screaming their heads off on that 911 tape so I doubt they were in on any sucide plan.

laurarichardson said:

cloveringold85 said:

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I agree. I find her comment perplexing, to say the least. Like I said, given the words they chose, it seems like they were expecting him to go at any time. If you have a loved one who is terminaly-ill and in the hospital and you know their days are numbered, then that is a different story, but out of nowhere it's like Prince is gone, and saying "he's gone" makes it sound like they knew it was going to happen.

Exactly unless you are planning to overdose on drugs and giving people the day and time it had to be an illness that was going on.

If it was suicide then that means he sat it up to look like an o.d which I find hard to believe just because of the plans he had for the next day and obvisoulsy not getting more things stituated as only a few things appear to be in place.

Also Meriam and KJ are screaming their heads off on that 911 tape so I doubt they were in on any sucide plan.

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Agreed. They must have known that something was going to happen, because she said they "prepared" and 'knew for 2 years'. I also find it hard to believe that he would o/d on-purpose.

NotACleverName said:

Perhaps I didn't explain myself clearly. My intent was to simply illustrate another possibility. Something other than the fact that the "two year statement" clearly proves (to some but definitely not me) she knew there was something more at play than the pain med factor. Her statement could have been one year or three years but due to the timing, it happened in two. In other words, Tyka was aware of Prince obtaining meds via other avenues (on the streets, per se) and outside of a doctor's care. Knowing this, at some point in 2014, she addressed her concern with Prince by saying something like "you know Prince I have been there, done that and you are playing with fire by seeking out pain meds on the street due to the fact that you don't know how pure (or clean, however you want to define it) they are" to which Prince replied something along the lines of, "you know sis, I understand the hazards but I feel I have done everything I have come here to do and am ok with any potential risks". Unfortunately, he passes in 2016, hence the two year statement. If Prince died in 2017, she would have said "I have known for the past three years.....". To add to this, I believe Kirk was very aware of what was going on and that is why he informed Tyka with two words...."he's gone". To clarify, I believe this was a tragic accident as I don't subscribe to the notion he committed suicide, murder theories or any other scenarios, for that matter. I also don't believe Prince was suffering from any ailment, illness, etc. other than dependency. He was not given a diagnosis of AIDS, cancer, Hep C, etc. and given a potential life expectancy prediction of two years. And I would imagine there has not been, nor will there be, any statement from the family because everything that is relevant to the death of Prince is already out there.

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Agreed. Maybe Tyka knew her brother's drug dependency was spiraling out of control 2-years ago, and she knew that he would eventually die from an accidental overdose. This seems plausible, but don't you think that he would have overdosed on Fentanyl a long time ago if that was the case?

cloveringold85 said:

laurarichardson said:

But who tells someone their brother is dead by simply stating their gone? Like I said before he gave anyone POA that will tell us something.

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I agree. I find her comment perplexing, to say the least. Like I said, given the words they chose, it seems like they were expecting him to go at any time. If you have a loved one who is terminaly-ill and in the hospital and you know their days are numbered, then that is a different story, but out of nowhere it's like Prince is gone, and saying "he's gone" makes it sound like they knew it was going to happen.

To be fair, my experience with my Pops, he was in hospice and it was expected. So, with that, I agree with you and your conclusion.