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paulludvig said:

herb4 said:

It's not. It all makes perfect sense. We know 99% of what happened. Only thing left is to figure out who bough the "hot" black market pills. And I think we even know the answer to that too.

This entire scenario really isn't that complicated.

Again - bloodtests showed he had not been taking opioids since the Moline incident. Why wasn't he suffering serious withdrawal symptoms?

That's a great question.

Another reason to release the autopsy report. Why the family does not want to end all speculation is beyond me, unless he had a medical condition they do not want the public to know about. With the six heirs split three v. three, who knows who will control this information in the future. I know that I am honestly tired wondering what happened. We don't have any concrete information except the ultimate cause of death.

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paulludvig said:

Again - bloodtests showed he had not been taking opioids since the Moline incident. Why wasn't he suffering serious withdrawal symptoms?

I never heard anything about those blood tests other then the fact they didn't show fentanyl in his system.

1Sasha said:

kmama07 said:

1Sasha said:

Another reason to release the autopsy report. Why the family does not want to end all speculation is beyond me, unless he had a medical condition they do not want the public to know about. With the six heirs split three v. three, who knows who will control this information in the future. I know that I am honestly tired wondering what happened. We don't have any concrete information except the ultimate cause of death.

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Yup. I think someone is going to get their feathers ruffled and blow things out of the water eventually. More $$$ via tabloids, books, etc

Yes, I agree with you. If the estate isn't paying out hard cash to them, someone will do something to earn money.

Why do you think releasing the full autopsy would end all speculation about his death? The key conclusions from the autopsy are already public, and other info about the exact level of drugs in his system have leaked. Half the speculation is from people who believe he was the victim of a murder plot; what might be in the full autopsy that could change their minds on that?

1Sasha said:

Another reason to release the autopsy report. Why the family does not want to end all speculation is beyond me, unless he had a medical condition they do not want the public to know about. With the six heirs split three v. three, who knows who will control this information in the future. I know that I am honestly tired wondering what happened. We don't have any concrete information except the ultimate cause of death.

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If someone slipped him bad pills it is a murder plotted or not. Many people believe he had other issues with his health perhaps due to the pills and the full report would clear that up however, I can understand why the family would not release it.

disch said:

Why do you think releasing the full autopsy would end all speculation about his death? The key conclusions from the autopsy are already public, and other info about the exact level of drugs in his system have leaked. Half the speculation is from people who believe he was the victim of a murder plot; what might be in the full autopsy that could change their minds on that?

1Sasha said:

Another reason to release the autopsy report. Why the family does not want to end all speculation is beyond me, unless he had a medical condition they do not want the public to know about. With the six heirs split three v. three, who knows who will control this information in the future. I know that I am honestly tired wondering what happened. We don't have any concrete information except the ultimate cause of death.

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1Sasha said:

kmama07 said:

1Sasha said: Yup. I think someone is going to get their feathers ruffled and blow things out of the water eventually. More $$$ via tabloids, books, etc

Yes, I agree with you. If the estate isn't paying out hard cash to them, someone will do something to earn money.

This is true. Why let some asshole make money off of the news. We already have had the toxicology report leaked so what is going to be next.

I wish the family would hire someone to help them deal with the media. They are so gunning for these people.

But how would the full autopsy tell us if "someone slipped him bad pills"?

laurarichardson said:

If someone slipped him bad pills it is a murder plotted or not. Many people believe he had other issues with his health perhaps due to the pills and the full report would clear that up however, I can understand why the family would not release it.

disch said:

Why do you think releasing the full autopsy would end all speculation about his death? The key conclusions from the autopsy are already public, and other info about the exact level of drugs in his system have leaked. Half the speculation is from people who believe he was the victim of a murder plot; what might be in the full autopsy that could change their minds on that?

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Sigh. Ok, we're back to the "grins and giggles" discussion, he was suffering from chronic disease no way was he some disgusting strung-out druggie like those people I saw that time on a reality TV show etc, etc. yada yada discussion. I think we've all gone over this about a million times and no need to keep at it.

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Anyway, I can't imagine the full autopsy will be released so folks will have to find other ways to come to a place of acceptance without it, I would imagine.

laurarichardson said:

The full report would tells us if he had other medical issues which might explain why he had the illegal pills in the first place. More going on with him then just taking these pills for grins and giggles. He could have been experiencing serious pain and wanted to keep his issues private. I hope you knew this already as his being sick does not mean someone could have gotten one over on him. In fact it would make it more likely that someone was up to something. I have been saying all you have to do is follow the money. We already know about Patrick Cousins who else was stealing? Where did the Tidal money go? What about the money from the last concerts? How had POA? said:

But how would the full autopsy tell us if "someone slipped him bad pills"?

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We still do not know if Prince ingested the drugs laced with Fentanyl accidentally or deliberately. I know what the ME said; I think she should rescind her finding that it was accidental because even she does not know. Look at everything that has come out since she completed her task. Was it bad hips and/or knees? Was it a liver ailment? Was it some type of cancer? Right now he looks like just another rock star druggie whose last days/months were spent in the abyss of addiction. And NO ONE is doing one damn thing to change that perception "officially." That is why the full autopsy report is critical, in my opinion, to determine why the greatest entertainer of our age was found basically tossed in an elevator with his clothes on improperly and a massive amount of a killer drug in his system.

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But nothing has come out publicly since he died. Various tabloid reports and Facebook pages and what not allege a whole range of diseases, ailments, plots etc but there's been absolutely nothing that tells us the didn't accidently self-administer the fentanyl that killed him (through, most likely, lookalike illegal pills that he didn't know were laced).

1Sasha said:

We still do not know if Prince ingested the drugs laced with Fentanyl accidentally or deliberately. I know what the ME said; I think she should rescind her finding that it was accidental because even she does not know. Look at everything that has come out since she completed her task. Was it bad hips and/or knees? Was it a liver ailment? Was it some type of cancer? Right now he looks like just another rock star druggie whose last days/months were spent in the abyss of addiction. And NO ONE is doing one damn thing to change that perception "officially." That is why the full autopsy report is critical, in my opinion, to determine why the greatest entertainer of our age was found basically tossed in an elevator with his clothes on improperly and a massive amount of a killer drug in his system.

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So you think the report should stay sealed for this reason?

disch said:

But nothing has come out publicly since he died. Various tabloid reports and Facebook pages and what not allege a whole range of diseases, ailments, plots etc but there's been absolutely nothing that tells us the didn't accidently self-administer the fentanyl that killed him (through, most likely, lookalike illegal pills that he didn't know were laced).

1Sasha said:

We still do not know if Prince ingested the drugs laced with Fentanyl accidentally or deliberately. I know what the ME said; I think she should rescind her finding that it was accidental because even she does not know. Look at everything that has come out since she completed her task. Was it bad hips and/or knees? Was it a liver ailment? Was it some type of cancer? Right now he looks like just another rock star druggie whose last days/months were spent in the abyss of addiction. And NO ONE is doing one damn thing to change that perception "officially." That is why the full autopsy report is critical, in my opinion, to determine why the greatest entertainer of our age was found basically tossed in an elevator with his clothes on improperly and a massive amount of a killer drug in his system.

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This is the narrative that is out in the public. I did not put out in the public it is out there. You are not paying any attention to what is going on but constantly are critizing.

disch said:

Sigh. Ok, we're back to the "grins and giggles" discussion, he was suffering from chronic disease no way was he some disgusting strung-out druggie like those people I saw that time on a reality TV show etc, etc. yada yada discussion. I think we've all gone over this about a million times and no need to keep at it.

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Anyway, I can't imagine the full autopsy will be released so folks will have to find other ways to come to a place of acceptance without it, I would imagine.

laurarichardson said:

The full report would tells us if he had other medical issues which might explain why he had the illegal pills in the first place. More going on with him then just taking these pills for grins and giggles. He could have been experiencing serious pain and wanted to keep his issues private. I hope you knew this already as his being sick does not mean someone could have gotten one over on him. In fact it would make it more likely that someone was up to something. I have been saying all you have to do is follow the money. We already know about Patrick Cousins who else was stealing? Where did the Tidal money go? What about the money from the last concerts? How had POA? said: [Edited 5/30/17 10:54am]

laurarichardson said:

The full report would tells us if he had other medical issues which might explain why he had the illegal pills in the first place. More going on with him then just taking these pills for grins and giggles. He could have been experiencing serious pain and wanted to keep his issues private. I hope you knew this already as his being sick does not mean someone could have gotten one over on him. In fact it would make it more likely that someone was up to something. I have been saying all you have to do is follow the money. We already know about Patrick Cousins who else was stealing? Where did the Tidal money go? What about the money from the last concerts? How had POA? said:

But how would the full autopsy tell us if "someone slipped him bad pills"?

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I have reviewed numerous autopsy reports.

I can attest you dont want to see his autopsy report.

I am assuming the money from his last concerts and the Tidal money, etc went into the LLC's for tax purposes. P would not have deposited them into his personal financial accounts. Those line items for the LLCs were redacted from the Inventory.

1Sasha said:

We still do not know if Prince ingested the drugs laced with Fentanyl accidentally or deliberately. I know what the ME said; I think she should rescind her finding that it was accidental because even she does not know. Look at everything that has come out since she completed her task. Was it bad hips and/or knees? Was it a liver ailment? Was it some type of cancer? Right now he looks like just another rock star druggie whose last days/months were spent in the abyss of addiction. And NO ONE is doing one damn thing to change that perception "officially." That is why the full autopsy report is critical, in my opinion, to determine why the greatest entertainer of our age was found basically tossed in an elevator with his clothes on improperly and a massive amount of a killer drug in his system.

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But the ME has all of the info, and that's how she made her determination. She knows if he had a disease or not, and doesn't have to make that part public. If it was suicide, then she would've ruled it a suicide.Believe me, the ME knows what happened.

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

laurarichardson said:

The full report would tells us if he had other medical issues which might explain why he had the illegal pills in the first place. More going on with him then just taking these pills for grins and giggles. He could have been experiencing serious pain and wanted to keep his issues private. I hope you knew this already as his being sick does not mean someone could have gotten one over on him. In fact it would make it more likely that someone was up to something. I have been saying all you have to do is follow the money. We already know about Patrick Cousins who else was stealing? Where did the Tidal money go? What about the money from the last concerts? How had POA? said: [Edited 5/30/17 10:54am]

I have reviewed numerous autopsy reports.

I can attest you dont want to see his autopsy report.

I am assuming the money from his last concerts and the Tidal money, etc went into the LLC's for tax purposes. P would not have deposited them into his personal financial accounts. Those line items for the LLCs were redacted from the Inventory.

What about the claim by Londell and company that Tidal only sent 750k? When Tidal is claiming they sent 3 million with the last payment going out in November of 2016!

Tidal is moving forward with their suit and saying they are owed another album since they paid the money they want their album. If the money from Tidal went into the LLC for tax purposes which is what I would expect as I have never wondered why his checking accounts were low. Why did the estate not seem to know about the Tidal money? Did some one have POA? Would Prince let someone have POA if everything was okay with his health?

Why were associates (only two) making so many calls and texts while P was laying dead in the floor? So many the police even felt it was weird enough to do a data dump on the phones?

Who was handling Prince's money in the last month's of his life? Because the Australian promoter kept mentioning a business manager, a bodyguard and a sound tech on that tour. So we know someone was traveling with him at least in Australia that was handling money.

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1Sasha said:

We still do not know if Prince ingested the drugs laced with Fentanyl accidentally or deliberately. I know what the ME said; I think she should rescind her finding that it was accidental because even she does not know. Look at everything that has come out since she completed her task. Was it bad hips and/or knees? Was it a liver ailment? Was it some type of cancer? Right now he looks like just another rock star druggie whose last days/months were spent in the abyss of addiction. And NO ONE is doing one damn thing to change that perception "officially." That is why the full autopsy report is critical, in my opinion, to determine why the greatest entertainer of our age was found basically tossed in an elevator with his clothes on improperly and a massive amount of a killer drug in his system.

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Well spoken!! Tell it, Sista!!

The bottom like folks is that the full autopsy is never going to be released, and the family is not going to request that it be released. As you know, MN law states; full autopsy reports are "sealed" for 30-years!

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Until then, expect more controversy and rumors--this is what we are left with, and we just have to accept it.

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As long as this is still an ongoing homicide investigation, we aren't going to get any real information.

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Releasing the full autopsy report will put a lot of these rumors to rest!

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And for those of you who think keeping his autopsy sealed is respecting his privacy, I beg to differ. A deceased person no longer has any rights!

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Besides, what is the harm if they release the full autopsy, really? So what if we find out he had a terminal illness? That's not going to change the love we had for the man! Sheesh! smh

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

cloveringold85 said:

moonsister said:

moonsister said:

cloveringold85 said:

The bottom like folks is that the full autopsy is never going to be released, and the family is not going to request that it be released. As you know, MN law states; full autopsy reports are "sealed" for 30-years!

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Until then, expect more controversy and rumors--this is what we are left with, and we just have to accept it.

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As long as this is still an ongoing homicide investigation, we aren't going to get any real information.

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Releasing the full autopsy report will put a lot of these rumors to rest!

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And for those of you who think keeping his autopsy sealed is respecting his privacy, I beg to differ. A deceased person no longer has any rights!

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Besides, what is the harm if they release the full autopsy, really? So what if we find out he had a terminal illness? That's not going to change the love we had for the man! Sheesh! smh

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What would make a family clam up like this? Cancer? No family I know would think cancer is something to hide. Hep C? Maybe. HIV? Probably. But we may never know, and the vast majority of people don't care, they know of the drug addiction death and nothing else mattered.

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Perhaps some people don't care to know, and that's okay, but a majority of people do care. Releasing the full autopsy will put an end to all these rumors. What are they hiding? Whatever it is, certainly isn't going to change my opinion, love and respect for Prince.

Ditto.

So the family is to be viewed with suspicion and "hiding something" because they don't publicize his full autopsy? If a loved one of mine died, I would personally not publicize their full autopsy, which is full of all kinds of incredibly intimate, gory details. I would let my loved one have some dignity in their death, if the law permits it. The pertinant facts have already been made public. They are not obligated to share this kind of detail and it's not suspicious if they choose not to.

cloveringold85 said:

moonsister said:

cloveringold85 said: What would make a family clam up like this? Cancer? No family I know would think cancer is something to hide. Hep C? Maybe. HIV? Probably. But we may never know, and the vast majority of people don't care, they know of the drug addiction death and nothing else mattered.

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Perhaps some people don't care to know, and that's okay, but a majority of people do care. Releasing the full autopsy will put an end to all these rumors. What are they hiding? Whatever it is, certainly isn't going to change my opinion, love and respect for Prince.

1Sasha said: