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Reply #270 posted 05/25/17 2:32pm

laurarichardso
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muleFunk said:



cloveringold85 said:


The revelation that Prince may have been a long-term drug user didn’t surprise Michael Padden, an attorney who represented the musician’s half-brother and half-sister in litigation previously – some against Prince himself.


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“The way it was described to me was that, yes, it was something that was consistent use,” Padden said.


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Prince’s siblings had mentioned his drug use in the course of conversation, unrelated to litigation, suggesting he had used cocaine and Percocet since the 1980s.


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“It wasn’t just casual,” Padden said. “Something I want to make clear: Prince used because it’d make him a better performer; he wasn’t doing it just for kicks.”




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http://www.irishtimes.com...-1.2631019





Please understand that Duane and Lornia Nelson had outstanding debt to Michael Padden and he is using Prince's death to recoup losses. He also was a main contributor to the book Possessed which has very little credibility to many.



In other words he is a lawyer who used Prince's dead siblings to cash in on Prince's death.


Everything that has been given to the media in regards to a drug addicted Prince has been through Michael Padden who is also a regular visitor to Prince.org.


Who the hell would say drugs would make anyone a better performer? What does that tell you about this scum? What he is saying is the exact opposite of what at least a 100 other people are saying. Also Duane was a drug addicted, violent and mentally unstable man. He threw a women out of Paisley Park on her face, beat another women up in a bar and pointed a gun at a process server. He spent time in prison and time in a mental facility.
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Reply #271 posted 05/25/17 2:35pm

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

muleFunk said:

Please understand that Duane and Lornia Nelson had outstanding debt to Michael Padden and he is using Prince's death to recoup losses. He also was a main contributor to the book Possessed which has very little credibility to many.

In other words he is a lawyer who used Prince's dead siblings to cash in on Prince's death.

Everything that has been given to the media in regards to a drug addicted Prince has been through Michael Padden who is also a regular visitor to Prince.org.

You are correct MuleFunk and I am surprised he is being quoted on the org.

What is his handle on the org?

A good magician never reveals his secrets but he's on here now along with other questionable individuals who will be called out later.

[Edited 5/25/17 14:37pm]

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Reply #272 posted 05/25/17 2:36pm

leec1

laurarichardson said:[quote]

leec1 said:



precioux said:




laurarichardson said:



But Dr. S went so far as to issue a press releash stating that he wrote pain meds for Kirk. Kirk said Dr. S wrote the pain med for Prince. We did not get a date on when this pain med Rx was written by I am going to assume this all took place on the 20th when the doctor said he wrote those other Rxs for Prince under Kirk's name even if the pain pills were written on the 7th why did Prince have problems on the plane and supposely tell the doctors in Moline he took two percocets.



Would two percocets make a person with ( orger words not mine) with such a high tolerence o.d?



Why did he not take the real pills if he had them on the plane and if they were really for Kirk what is wrong with him that he needs to take pain pills?



It does not make any sense and I am sure the police have looked at all pills, assumed names and medical files to piece the story together.







Bolded:
1. Exactly-the script could've been written at an earler date even, but not filled until the 20th (it's possible), fact is we don't know when the script WAS FILLED

2.To clarify: KJ is the one who stated Prince "took one or two pills"

3. NO! ...actually, hell no. ESPECIALLY if Prince supposedly had a high tolerance. Which gives me pause and I have a reason to believe what he OD'd on the plane was not the Percocet prescribed by Dr.S, but possibly the Fentanyl laced pills. We don't know the amounts of Fentanyl that was in the tested pills. We don't know how many pills P took to quantify the absurd amount of Fentanyl found in his system, either.



I went back and re-read the 6/8 search warrant and it indicated that the doctor who treated Prince stated that it was an opiate overdose so it isn't just KJ saying that the plane incident involved opiod use.

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Do you think two percocets caused a overdose?

The amount of drugs taken was not shown in the warrant
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Reply #273 posted 05/25/17 2:37pm

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cloveringold85 said:



laurarichardson said:


leec1 said:


I went back and re-read the 6/8 search warrant and it indicated that the doctor who treated Prince stated that it was an opiate overdose so it isn't just KJ saying that the plane incident involved opiod use.



Do you think two percocets caused a overdose?

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I was interested also, so I looked it up:


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The vast majority of drug poisoning deaths are unintentional. There are a lot of different reasons why someone might accidentally overdose on Percocet. First, the oxycodone in Percocet creates a physical tolerance over time. After taking Percocet for an extended period, you may no longer be getting adequate pain relief from your prescribed dose and need more to achieve analgesic effect. But it only takes one or two extra pills to overdose on the acetaminophen in Percocet, even thought the amount of oxycodone is likely to still be safe. So, increasing the frequency or amount of medication each day is an easy way to unintentionally overdose on Percocet.


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http://prescription-drug....cet-to-od/



--Interesting because I remember Dr. Drew said that most people do not overdose on just plain pain meds because they make you throw up and people usually overdose when the pills are mixed with other substances or alcohol. Makes you wonder if the doctor only respeated what he was told by KJ.
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Reply #274 posted 05/25/17 2:39pm

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leec1 said:[quote]

laurarichardson said:

leec1 said:



precioux said:




laurarichardson said:



But Dr. S went so far as to issue a press releash stating that he wrote pain meds for Kirk. Kirk said Dr. S wrote the pain med for Prince. We did not get a date on when this pain med Rx was written by I am going to assume this all took place on the 20th when the doctor said he wrote those other Rxs for Prince under Kirk's name even if the pain pills were written on the 7th why did Prince have problems on the plane and supposely tell the doctors in Moline he took two percocets.



Would two percocets make a person with ( orger words not mine) with such a high tolerence o.d?



Why did he not take the real pills if he had them on the plane and if they were really for Kirk what is wrong with him that he needs to take pain pills?



It does not make any sense and I am sure the police have looked at all pills, assumed names and medical files to piece the story together.







Bolded:
1. Exactly-the script could've been written at an earler date even, but not filled until the 20th (it's possible), fact is we don't know when the script WAS FILLED

2.To clarify: KJ is the one who stated Prince "took one or two pills"

3. NO! ...actually, hell no. ESPECIALLY if Prince supposedly had a high tolerance. Which gives me pause and I have a reason to believe what he OD'd on the plane was not the Percocet prescribed by Dr.S, but possibly the Fentanyl laced pills. We don't know the amounts of Fentanyl that was in the tested pills. We don't know how many pills P took to quantify the absurd amount of Fentanyl found in his system, either.



I went back and re-read the 6/8 search warrant and it indicated that the doctor who treated Prince stated that it was an opiate overdose so it isn't just KJ saying that the plane incident involved opiod use.

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Do you think two percocets caused a overdose?

The amount of drugs taken was not shown in the warrant

I will go back and look but remember seeing a mention of two. I do not see Prince getting thru that show gobbling down a handful of pills.
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Reply #275 posted 05/25/17 2:41pm

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1Sasha said:

But that brings me to a point I made here some time ago: if Prince ingested Fentanyl at all on the plane, he would have been dead by the time the plane landed. I don't care that he got two Narcan doses on the tarmac - if there is someone here with a medical background who can dispute that, please do. I am willing to listen to anything at this point. That plane didn't land immediately, and he was out cold.

If he took what was said to have been found in his bags on the plane he would have been dead.

I don't think that the plane incident and April 21 was the same type of medical issue.

I'm thinking that he took opiates with cold medication and it caused him to pass out.

If you look at the levels of Fentanyl in those bottles if he would have touched that medication he could have died.

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Reply #276 posted 05/25/17 2:55pm

leec1

laurarichardson said:

leec1 said:


The amount of drugs taken was not shown in the warrant

I will go back and look but remember seeing a mention of two. I do not see Prince getting thru that show gobbling down a handful of pills.

When I state the number of pills is not shown I am referring to the statement from the doctor only.
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Reply #277 posted 05/25/17 2:59pm

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precioux said:



Bolded:
1. Exactly-the script could've been written at an earler date even, but not filled until the 20th (it's possible), fact is we don't know when the script WAS FILLED

2.To clarify: KJ is the one who stated Prince "took one or two pills"

3. NO! ...actually, hell no. ESPECIALLY if Prince supposedly had a high tolerance. Which gives me pause and I have a reason to believe what he OD'd on the plane was not the Percocet prescribed by Dr.S, but possibly the Fentanyl laced pills. We don't know the amounts of Fentanyl that was in the tested pills. We don't know how many pills P took to quantify the absurd amount of Fentanyl found in his system, either.

Yes, I agree with you.

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Reply #278 posted 05/25/17 3:02pm

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PennyPurple said:



precioux said:






Bolded:
1. Exactly-the script could've been written at an earler date even, but not filled until the 20th (it's possible), fact is we don't know when the script WAS FILLED

2.To clarify: KJ is the one who stated Prince "took one or two pills"

3. NO! ...actually, hell no. ESPECIALLY if Prince supposedly had a high tolerance. Which gives me pause and I have a reason to believe what he OD'd on the plane was not the Percocet prescribed by Dr.S, but possibly the Fentanyl laced pills. We don't know the amounts of Fentanyl that was in the tested pills. We don't know how many pills P took to quantify the absurd amount of Fentanyl found in his system, either.



Yes, I agree with you.


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Reply #279 posted 05/25/17 3:02pm

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PennyPurple said:



precioux said:






Bolded:
1. Exactly-the script could've been written at an earler date even, but not filled until the 20th (it's possible), fact is we don't know when the script WAS FILLED

2.To clarify: KJ is the one who stated Prince "took one or two pills"

3. NO! ...actually, hell no. ESPECIALLY if Prince supposedly had a high tolerance. Which gives me pause and I have a reason to believe what he OD'd on the plane was not the Percocet prescribed by Dr.S, but possibly the Fentanyl laced pills. We don't know the amounts of Fentanyl that was in the tested pills. We don't know how many pills P took to quantify the absurd amount of Fentanyl found in his system, either.



Yes, I agree with you.



I don't see where KJ said Princ took one or two pills, will you tell me where?
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Reply #280 posted 05/25/17 3:07pm

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PurpleDiamonds1 said:

Well it does happen....and some get away with it. He was brought in and IMO helped do harm. Still think he was not yet charged for bringing the meds because LE is trying to see if he did more. Again JMO I am on this site to defend Prince not anyone else...it is beyond sad that he is no longer here. I feel it is wrong and disrespectful for anyone to defend someone that did not belong in Princes house at the time he was pronounced dead as if it was ok and claim he is innocent... [Edited 5/25/17 12:45pm]

Prince's people BROUGHT him into Prince's house. Andrew never even saw Prince alive. Andrew has stated that another Dr. was going to give Prince the suboxone( sp?), even if that wasn't the case, Andrew still didn't give Prince or anybody else, anything.

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I don't believe anybody will be charged in this case.

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Reply #281 posted 05/25/17 3:21pm

precioux

leec1 said:



precioux said:




laurarichardson said:



But Dr. S went so far as to issue a press releash stating that he wrote pain meds for Kirk. Kirk said Dr. S wrote the pain med for Prince. We did not get a date on when this pain med Rx was written by I am going to assume this all took place on the 20th when the doctor said he wrote those other Rxs for Prince under Kirk's name even if the pain pills were written on the 7th why did Prince have problems on the plane and supposely tell the doctors in Moline he took two percocets.



Would two percocets make a person with ( orger words not mine) with such a high tolerence o.d?



Why did he not take the real pills if he had them on the plane and if they were really for Kirk what is wrong with him that he needs to take pain pills?



It does not make any sense and I am sure the police have looked at all pills, assumed names and medical files to piece the story together.







Bolded:
1. Exactly-the script could've been written at an earler date even, but not filled until the 20th (it's possible), fact is we don't know when the script WAS FILLED

2.To clarify: KJ is the one who stated Prince "took one or two pills"

3. NO! ...actually, hell no. ESPECIALLY if Prince supposedly had a high tolerance. Which gives me pause and I have a reason to believe what he OD'd on the plane was not the Percocet prescribed by Dr.S, but possibly the Fentanyl laced pills. We don't know the amounts of Fentanyl that was in the tested pills. We don't know how many pills P took to quantify the absurd amount of Fentanyl found in his system, either.



I went back and re-read the 6/8 search warrant and it indicated that the doctor who treated Prince stated that it was an opiate overdose so it isn't just KJ saying that the plane incident involved opiod use.




That's not what I said- I said "to clarify: KJ stated Prince took 1-2 pills"...meaning that Prince did not actually admit this himself, rather this statement was KJ's response to the Dr.'s question in regards to what Prince took and what was going on. Furthermore, I'm quite sure the Dr. came to this conclusion as a direct result of KJ's answer, and as LR is alluding to....ain't nobody ODing on "one or two" Percocet. Unless of course this was yet another lie by KJ and he actually knew how many Prince took..and it wasn't 1 or 2 eek




Edit to add: just had another thought. Since KJ was the one answering all the questions, and stated Prince had only taken 1 or 2...IF KJ had knowledge that the pill was actually Fentanyl laced, then YES! Prince would've OD'd on one..think about that for a second. Again-we don't know the Fentanyl levels in the other 2 dozen pills tested, no do we know how many Fentanyl laced pills P took on the 20/21st
[Edited 5/25/17 15:47pm]
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Reply #282 posted 05/25/17 3:35pm

precioux

cloveringold85 said:



laurarichardson said:


leec1 said:


I went back and re-read the 6/8 search warrant and it indicated that the doctor who treated Prince stated that it was an opiate overdose so it isn't just KJ saying that the plane incident involved opiod use.



Do you think two percocets caused a overdose?

.


I was interested also, so I looked it up:


.


The vast majority of drug poisoning deaths are unintentional. There are a lot of different reasons why someone might accidentally overdose on Percocet. First, the oxycodone in Percocet creates a physical tolerance over time. After taking Percocet for an extended period, you may no longer be getting adequate pain relief from your prescribed dose and need more to achieve analgesic effect. But it only takes one or two extra pills to overdose on the acetaminophen in Percocet, even thought the amount of oxycodone is likely to still be safe. So, increasing the frequency or amount of medication each day is an easy way to unintentionally overdose on Percocet.


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http://prescription-drug....cet-to-od/






Hey Clover!

Key word in your highlighted sentence is "extra"...it was stated that Prince had ONLY taken 1 or 2...not 1 or 2 extra. It's not actually the ingredient oxycodone in Percocet that is dangerous in high quantities, but rather the acetaminophen as your article states above
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Reply #283 posted 05/25/17 3:46pm

1Sasha

muleFunk said:

1Sasha said:

But that brings me to a point I made here some time ago: if Prince ingested Fentanyl at all on the plane, he would have been dead by the time the plane landed. I don't care that he got two Narcan doses on the tarmac - if there is someone here with a medical background who can dispute that, please do. I am willing to listen to anything at this point. That plane didn't land immediately, and he was out cold.

If he took what was said to have been found in his bags on the plane he would have been dead.

I don't think that the plane incident and April 21 was the same type of medical issue.

I'm thinking that he took opiates with cold medication and it caused him to pass out.

If you look at the levels of Fentanyl in those bottles if he would have touched that medication he could have died.

That's where I am at, too.

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Reply #284 posted 05/25/17 3:58pm

precioux

1Sasha said:



muleFunk said:




1Sasha said:


But that brings me to a point I made here some time ago: if Prince ingested Fentanyl at all on the plane, he would have been dead by the time the plane landed. I don't care that he got two Narcan doses on the tarmac - if there is someone here with a medical background who can dispute that, please do. I am willing to listen to anything at this point. That plane didn't land immediately, and he was out cold.




If he took what was said to have been found in his bags on the plane he would have been dead.



I don't think that the plane incident and April 21 was the same type of medical issue.


I'm thinking that he took opiates with cold medication and it caused him to pass out.



If you look at the levels of Fentanyl in those bottles if he would have touched that medication he could have died.



That's where I am at, too.




Question: Do we know the level of Fentanyl in the 2 dozen laced pills that were tested? Serious question, not being facetious -did I miss that??
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Reply #285 posted 05/25/17 4:02pm

leec1

precioux said:

leec1 said:

I went back and re-read the 6/8 search warrant and it indicated that the doctor who treated Prince stated that it was an opiate overdose so it isn't just KJ saying that the plane incident involved opiod use.

That's not what I said- I said "to clarify: KJ stated Prince took 1-2 pills"...meaning that Prince did not actually admit this himself, rather this statement was KJ's response to the Dr.'s question in regards to what Prince took and what was going on. Furthermore, I'm quite sure the Dr. came to this conclusion as a direct result of KJ's answer, and as LR is alluding to....ain't nobody ODing on "one or two" Percocet. Unless of course this was yet another lie by KJ and he actually knew how many Prince took..and it wasn't 1 or 2 eek Edit to add: just had another thought. Since KJ was the one answering all the questions, and stated Prince had only taken 1 or 2...IF KJ had knowledge that the pill was actually Fentanyl laced, then YES! Prince would've OD'd on one..think about that for a second. Again-we don't know the Fentanyl levels in the other 2 dozen pills tested, no do we know how many Fentanyl laced pills P took on the 20/21st [Edited 5/25/17 15:47pm]

I am aware that KJ said 1-2 pills were taken and I give little to no credence to anything that is said by KJ considering what we know about how "truthful" he is.

The search warrant states that the doctor indicated it was an opiod overdose which doctors in general don't base medical opinions on hearsay.

In addition, a Narcan shot had been administered to P. which worked and Narcan's main use is to revive people from opiods.

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Reply #286 posted 05/25/17 4:16pm

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leec1 said:

I am aware that KJ said 1-2 pills were taken and I give little to no credence to anything that is said by KJ considering what we know about how "truthful" he is.

The search warrant states that the doctor indicated it was an opiod overdose which doctors in general don't base medical opinions on hearsay.

In addition, a Narcan shot had been administered to P. which worked and Narcan's main use is to revive people from opiods.

I think it took 2 Narcan shots.

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Reply #287 posted 05/25/17 4:25pm

precioux

PennyPurple said:



leec1 said:




I am aware that KJ said 1-2 pills were taken and I give little to no credence to anything that is said by KJ considering what we know about how "truthful" he is.



The search warrant states that the doctor indicated it was an opiod overdose which doctors in general don't base medical opinions on hearsay.



In addition, a Narcan shot had been administered to P. which worked and Narcan's main use is to revive people from opiods.




I think it took 2 Narcan shots.





I read that as well before-don't ask me for a link, though
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Reply #288 posted 05/25/17 4:29pm

precioux

leec1 said:



precioux said:


leec1 said:


I went back and re-read the 6/8 search warrant and it indicated that the doctor who treated Prince stated that it was an opiate overdose so it isn't just KJ saying that the plane incident involved opiod use.



That's not what I said- I said "to clarify: KJ stated Prince took 1-2 pills"...meaning that Prince did not actually admit this himself, rather this statement was KJ's response to the Dr.'s question in regards to what Prince took and what was going on. Furthermore, I'm quite sure the Dr. came to this conclusion as a direct result of KJ's answer, and as LR is alluding to....ain't nobody ODing on "one or two" Percocet. Unless of course this was yet another lie by KJ and he actually knew how many Prince took..and it wasn't 1 or 2 eek Edit to add: just had another thought. Since KJ was the one answering all the questions, and stated Prince had only taken 1 or 2...IF KJ had knowledge that the pill was actually Fentanyl laced, then YES! Prince would've OD'd on one..think about that for a second. Again-we don't know the Fentanyl levels in the other 2 dozen pills tested, no do we know how many Fentanyl laced pills P took on the 20/21st [Edited 5/25/17 15:47pm]

I am aware that KJ said 1-2 pills were taken and I give little to no credence to anything that is said by KJ considering what we know about how "truthful" he is.



The search warrant states that the doctor indicated it was an opiod overdose which doctors in general don't base medical opinions on hearsay.



In addition, a Narcan shot had been administered to P. which worked and Narcan's main use is to revive people from opiods.






I am not doubting that the plane incident was an OD due to opiates. An OD as a result of 1-2 Percocet, no way. What I am debating is, if it was on Percocet, it wasn't the amount stated- OR it could've possibly been an OD as a result of the Fentanyl laced pills. One of those, I could understand, being we don't know the Fentanyl amount in the illicit pills
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Reply #289 posted 05/25/17 4:33pm

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laurarichardson said:

muleFunk said:

Please understand that Duane and Lornia Nelson had outstanding debt to Michael Padden and he is using Prince's death to recoup losses. He also was a main contributor to the book Possessed which has very little credibility to many.

In other words he is a lawyer who used Prince's dead siblings to cash in on Prince's death.

Everything that has been given to the media in regards to a drug addicted Prince has been through Michael Padden who is also a regular visitor to Prince.org.

Who the hell would say drugs would make anyone a better performer? What does that tell you about this scum? What he is saying is the exact opposite of what at least a 100 other people are saying. Also Duane was a drug addicted, violent and mentally unstable man. He threw a women out of Paisley Park on her face, beat another women up in a bar and pointed a gun at a process server. He spent time in prison and time in a mental facility.

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No, I'm not saying I believe Duane either.

"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016)
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Reply #290 posted 05/25/17 4:37pm

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laurarichardson said:

cloveringold85 said:

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I was interested also, so I looked it up:

.

The vast majority of drug poisoning deaths are unintentional. There are a lot of different reasons why someone might accidentally overdose on Percocet. First, the oxycodone in Percocet creates a physical tolerance over time. After taking Percocet for an extended period, you may no longer be getting adequate pain relief from your prescribed dose and need more to achieve analgesic effect. But it only takes one or two extra pills to overdose on the acetaminophen in Percocet, even thought the amount of oxycodone is likely to still be safe. So, increasing the frequency or amount of medication each day is an easy way to unintentionally overdose on Percocet.

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http://prescription-drug....cet-to-od/

--Interesting because I remember Dr. Drew said that most people do not overdose on just plain pain meds because they make you throw up and people usually overdose when the pills are mixed with other substances or alcohol. Makes you wonder if the doctor only respeated what he was told by KJ.

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Yes, I also listened to Dr. Drew's analysis with what may have gone wrong with Prince. Dr. Drew knew that it wasn't a Percocet overdose; he knew there was something else going on, and it was something much more powerful and dangerous.

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Yes, I would think that overdosing on any meds would make you physically sick.

"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016)
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Reply #291 posted 05/25/17 4:41pm

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The search warrant states it was PRINCE that stated he took 1-2 percocets.

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Reply #292 posted 05/25/17 4:44pm

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precioux said:

cloveringold85 said:

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I was interested also, so I looked it up:

.

The vast majority of drug poisoning deaths are unintentional. There are a lot of different reasons why someone might accidentally overdose on Percocet. First, the oxycodone in Percocet creates a physical tolerance over time. After taking Percocet for an extended period, you may no longer be getting adequate pain relief from your prescribed dose and need more to achieve analgesic effect. But it only takes one or two extra pills to overdose on the acetaminophen in Percocet, even thought the amount of oxycodone is likely to still be safe. So, increasing the frequency or amount of medication each day is an easy way to unintentionally overdose on Percocet.

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http://prescription-drug....cet-to-od/

Hey Clover! Key word in your highlighted sentence is "extra"...it was stated that Prince had ONLY taken 1 or 2...not 1 or 2 extra. It's not actually the ingredient oxycodone in Percocet that is dangerous in high quantities, but rather the acetaminophen as your article states above

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Hey Precioux! I'm not sure how they dose Percocet, but if Prince even took 1 more pill than he should have, he could overdose. Like what just happened with Chris Cornell of Soundgarden (he took an extra Ativan). It's sad to see this happening again to another incredible artist.

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Another thing I wonder about is this; wouldn't Prince have felt the effects of 1 (or 2) extra pills on the plane? JH said his eyes were "fixed" and wasn't responding, so I guess it can happen that quick, ya know?

"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016)
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Reply #293 posted 05/25/17 4:50pm

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precioux said:

leec1 said:

I am aware that KJ said 1-2 pills were taken and I give little to no credence to anything that is said by KJ considering what we know about how "truthful" he is.

The search warrant states that the doctor indicated it was an opiod overdose which doctors in general don't base medical opinions on hearsay.

In addition, a Narcan shot had been administered to P. which worked and Narcan's main use is to revive people from opiods.

I am not doubting that the plane incident was an OD due to opiates. An OD as a result of 1-2 Percocet, no way. What I am debating is, if it was on Percocet, it wasn't the amount stated- OR it could've possibly been an OD as a result of the Fentanyl laced pills. One of those, I could understand, being we don't know the Fentanyl amount in the illicit pills

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Yea, this is the info we need to know; how many Percocets did Prince actually take, because just taking ONE Percocet isn't considered an overdose, obviously. I'm pretty sure in the reports I read said that Prince himself told the medical staff at the hospital in Moline how many pills he took.

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Reply #294 posted 05/25/17 4:50pm

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precioux said:

1Sasha said:

That's where I am at, too.

Question: Do we know the level of Fentanyl in the 2 dozen laced pills that were tested? Serious question, not being facetious -did I miss that??

No we do not and that's is a damn good question.

I do know that the Moline incident did not involve Fentanyl because the autopsy showed no long term use only the fatal dose.

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Reply #295 posted 05/25/17 4:55pm

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muleFunk said:

precioux said:

1Sasha said: Question: Do we know the level of Fentanyl in the 2 dozen laced pills that were tested? Serious question, not being facetious -did I miss that??

No we do not and that's is a damn good question.

I do know that the Moline incident did not involve Fentanyl because the autopsy showed no long term use only the fatal dose.

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Yea, Precioux was talking yesterday about the Watson pills; the one's with the incorrect stamp of 385-358? I don't recall just how many of those pills were found at PP, but once the autorities can track where those particular pills came from, then it will be able to shed some light on all of this mystery.

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Reply #296 posted 05/25/17 5:00pm

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Nearly a year after Prince died, search warrants from the singer's Paisley Park compound have been unsealed, providing some insight into his death.
Search Warrants from Prince's Death Unsealed

He was an electrifying performer to the end – but his controlled superstar life also hid many red flags

The search warrant, conducted less than a week after Prince's death, uncovered controlled substances – mainly painkillers that required a doctor's prescription – hidden throughout the compound, including stashed in vitamin containers.

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The Star Tribune writes that one vitamin D bottle contained Ondansetron Hydrochloride, also known as Zofran, a medication sometimes used to lessen the side effects of opiate withdrawal.

According to the search warrant, investigators were "made aware by witnesses that were interviewed, that Prince recently had a history of going through withdrawals, which are believed to be the result of the abuse of prescription medicine."

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NBC News reports that unspecified controlled substances were also found next to handwritten "U Got the Look" lyrics in a suitcase bearing the name "Peter Bravestrong," an often-used Prince alias. (The search warrants revealed that Prince's personal email address was PeterBravestrong@gmail.com.)

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Both Prince's physician Dr. Michael Schulenberg and his longtime bodyguard and assistant Kirk Johnson admitted to facilitating the artist with some controlled substances – Schulenberg said one oxycodone prescription for Prince was made out to Johnson "for Prince's privacy" – but, at the time of the search warrant, investigators were unable to track the source of the powerful painkiller F...erdosed on.

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A joint state and federal criminal investigation is still ongoing to find the source of the Fentanyl, since Prince was never prescribed that drug.

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Investigators also found that "interviews with those who were at Paisley Park the morning Prince was found deceased have provided inconsistent and, at times, contradictory statements."

Johnson especially was inconsistent with his statements to police, saying he didn't know Prince was addicted to painkillers, even though he reached out to a noted rehabilitation clinic ays earlier regarding the singer's addiction. Johnson ultimately told investigators that Prince battled both addiction and withdrawal prior to his death.

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To aid their investigation, authorities mined through Paisley Park email and cellphone records; however, Prince did not own a cell phone after he claimed he was hacked several years earlier.



http://www.rollingstone.c...ed-w477210

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Reply #297 posted 05/25/17 5:06pm

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The search warrant states it was PRINCE that stated he took 1-2 percocets.





Seriously?!?!

Can you please link me to that- I could've sworn KJ said "He took 1-2 pills"
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regardless-no one is going to OD on that minimal amount.


I'm curious to see this in the warrant, and can't pull the link on my phone. Much appreciated if you can post the link

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Reply #298 posted 05/25/17 5:06pm

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PennyPurple said:

Nearly a year after Prince died, search warrants from the singer's Paisley Park compound have been unsealed, providing some insight into his death.
Search Warrants from Prince's Death Unsealed

He was an electrifying performer to the end – but his controlled superstar life also hid many red flags

The search warrant, conducted less than a week after Prince's death, uncovered controlled substances – mainly painkillers that required a doctor's prescription – hidden throughout the compound, including stashed in vitamin containers.

.

The Star Tribune writes that one vitamin D bottle contained Ondansetron Hydrochloride, also known as Zofran, a medication sometimes used to lessen the side effects of opiate withdrawal.

According to the search warrant, investigators were "made aware by witnesses that were interviewed, that Prince recently had a history of going through withdrawals, which are believed to be the result of the abuse of prescription medicine."

.

NBC News reports that unspecified controlled substances were also found next to handwritten "U Got the Look" lyrics in a suitcase bearing the name "Peter Bravestrong," an often-used Prince alias. (The search warrants revealed that Prince's personal email address was PeterBravestrong@gmail.com.)

.

Both Prince's physician Dr. Michael Schulenberg and his longtime bodyguard and assistant Kirk Johnson admitted to facilitating the artist with some controlled substances – Schulenberg said one oxycodone prescription for Prince was made out to Johnson "for Prince's privacy" – but, at the time of the search warrant, investigators were unable to track the source of the powerful painkiller F...erdosed on.

.

A joint state and federal criminal investigation is still ongoing to find the source of the Fentanyl, since Prince was never prescribed that drug.

.

Investigators also found that "interviews with those who were at Paisley Park the morning Prince was found deceased have provided inconsistent and, at times, contradictory statements."

Johnson especially was inconsistent with his statements to police, saying he didn't know Prince was addicted to painkillers, even though he reached out to a noted rehabilitation clinic ays earlier regarding the singer's addiction. Johnson ultimately told investigators that Prince battled both addiction and withdrawal prior to his death.

.

To aid their investigation, authorities mined through Paisley Park email and cellphone records; however, Prince did not own a cell phone after he claimed he was hacked several years earlier.


http://www.rollingstone.c...ed-w477210

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Good info, Penny! I think I saw that RS article, but the second to the last paragraph......whoa!! eek

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Reply #299 posted 05/25/17 5:23pm

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cloveringold85 said:



PennyPurple said:


Nearly a year after Prince died, search warrants from the singer's Paisley Park compound have been unsealed, providing some insight into his death.

Search Warrants from Prince's Death Unsealed






He was an electrifying performer to the end – but his controlled superstar life also hid many red flags



The search warrant, conducted less than a week after Prince's death, uncovered controlled substances – mainly painkillers that required a doctor's prescription – hidden throughout the compound, including stashed in vitamin containers.


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The Star Tribune writes that one vitamin D bottle contained Ondansetron Hydrochloride, also known as Zofran, a medication sometimes used to lessen the side effects of opiate withdrawal.


According to the search warrant, investigators were "made aware by witnesses that were interviewed, that Prince recently had a history of going through withdrawals, which are believed to be the result of the abuse of prescription medicine."


.


NBC News reports that unspecified controlled substances were also found next to handwritten "U Got the Look" lyrics in a suitcase bearing the name "Peter Bravestrong," an often-used Prince alias. (The search warrants revealed that Prince's personal email address was PeterBravestrong@gmail.com.)


.


Both Prince's physician Dr. Michael Schulenberg and his longtime bodyguard and assistant Kirk Johnson admitted to facilitating the artist with some controlled substances – Schulenberg said one oxycodone prescription for Prince was made out to Johnson "for Prince's privacy" – but, at the time of the search warrant, investigators were unable to track the source of the powerful painkiller F...erdosed on.


.


A joint state and federal criminal investigation is still ongoing to find the source of the Fentanyl, since Prince was never prescribed that drug.


.


Investigators also found that "interviews with those who were at Paisley Park the morning Prince was found deceased have provided inconsistent and, at times, contradictory statements."


Johnson especially was inconsistent with his statements to police, saying he didn't know Prince was addicted to painkillers, even though he reached out to a noted rehabilitation clinic ays earlier regarding the singer's addiction. Johnson ultimately told investigators that Prince battled both addiction and withdrawal prior to his death.


.


To aid their investigation, authorities mined through Paisley Park email and cellphone records; however, Prince did not own a cell phone after he claimed he was hacked several years earlier.




























http://www.rollingstone.c...ed-w477210




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Good info, Penny! I think I saw that RS article, but the second to the last paragraph.....whoa!! eek




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