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Reply #60 posted 05/22/17 10:38am

rdhull

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databank said:



rdhull said:




mediumdry said:



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audiophiles? This is about the tags... As far as lossless.. that is simply that files can be edited or changed to a different format without quality loss. It's not like audiophiles have too much to find in Prince's archives. cool


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As to tagging, isn't it important to you that capitalisation is correct? That sorting for last name is done? That Prince & The Revolution, Prince and the NPG and Prince are put together? That you can group all Prince protege bands together?


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I guess feel I've got OCD. I'm not denying that. biggrin




The hell are you talking about?



shit just put everything under Prince



ylal ocd-ers be killin me with that talk lol



I don't have this problem with Winamp. My files are filed by my PC, not my music player. Album titles and credits are correct, made by me. Songs tags aren't a concern. When I wanna play an album, I just look for it in the drive and slide it into Winamp. End of story.



Jill Jones Jill Jones Jill Jones Jill Jones
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Reply #61 posted 05/22/17 10:43am

Ugot2shakesumt
hin

I love going to see a movie in an IMAX theater with great Dolby sound.

I also like watching movies on my big screen TV.

On occasion, I am in bed watching a movie on my iPad min.


Circumstance dictates the manner in which I watch a movie or listen to music. Having said that, i am more likely to listen to music at the gym on my headphones than on whatever gold plated speaker connected system folks yearn for here. And am more likely to watch a movie on Netflix on my big screen TV than an IMAX theater.

You enjoy what you can get when you can get it.

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Reply #62 posted 05/22/17 10:49am

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Ugot2shakesumthin said:

I love going to see a movie in an IMAX theater with great Dolby sound.

I also like watching movies on my big screen TV.

On occasion, I am in bed watching a movie on my iPad min.


Circumstance dictates the manner in which I watch a movie or listen to music. Having said that, i am more likely to listen to music at the gym on my headphones than on whatever gold plated speaker connected system folks yearn for here. And am more likely to watch a movie on Netflix on my big screen TV than an IMAX theater.

You enjoy what you can get when you can get it.

They have gold plated speaker systems but I bet their dwellings are a dump

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Reply #63 posted 05/22/17 11:15am

mediumdry

databank said:

I don't have this problem with Winamp. My files are filed by my PC, not my music player. Album titles and credits are correct, made by me. Songs tags aren't a concern. When I wanna play an album, I just look for it in the drive and slide it into Winamp. End of story.

A valid way to do it. For me, I only play digital files nowadays, all cd's are stored out of the way, the vinyl is sold. The DVDs are ripped and on Kodi on the FireTV, as is all the music, with art. On multiple devices I can search per genre, artist, album, grouping and what's more, I can browse. I am not on windows, so iTunes works fairly well, although I have been looking for a good collection manager/music player since iTunes removed cover flow, which was a nice way to browse through the collection.

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Using a file structure works, but once you go beyond a thousand or so albums and have several machines to play from and several different speakers to play to, you run into the limitations. That's why I chose digital files and a flexible db system.

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Reply #64 posted 05/22/17 11:17am

rdhull

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What happens when Russia finally hits us with the EMP?

mediumdry said:

databank said:

I don't have this problem with Winamp. My files are filed by my PC, not my music player. Album titles and credits are correct, made by me. Songs tags aren't a concern. When I wanna play an album, I just look for it in the drive and slide it into Winamp. End of story.

A valid way to do it. For me, I only play digital files nowadays, all cd's are stored out of the way, the vinyl is sold. The DVDs are ripped and on Kodi on the FireTV, as is all the music, with art.

"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #65 posted 05/22/17 11:19am

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rdhull said:

databank said:

I don't have this problem with Winamp. My files are filed by my PC, not my music player. Album titles and credits are correct, made by me. Songs tags aren't a concern. When I wanna play an album, I just look for it in the drive and slide it into Winamp. End of story.

Jill Jones Jill Jones Jill Jones Jill Jones

When I want to play Jill Jones or Two, I slide it into Winamp and it plays.

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Reply #66 posted 05/22/17 11:22am

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databank said:

rdhull said:

databank said: Jill Jones Jill Jones Jill Jones Jill Jones

When I want to play Jill Jones or Two, I slide it into Winamp and it plays.

well upload that shit to itunes

in all that Sanyo quality yall keep goin on about

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Reply #67 posted 05/22/17 11:24am

mediumdry

rdhull said:

What happens when Russia finally hits us with the EMP?

I'll still be in the European Union wondering what mistake Trump made to piss of his masters. cool

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Oh, and backups.. worst comes to worst, it's gone. Hope I'll still be alive. What happens to a collector whose house burns down? Unfortunately, there is no completely "safe" system, I feel.

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Reply #68 posted 05/22/17 11:31am

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mediumdry said:

databank said:

I don't have this problem with Winamp. My files are filed by my PC, not my music player. Album titles and credits are correct, made by me. Songs tags aren't a concern. When I wanna play an album, I just look for it in the drive and slide it into Winamp. End of story.

A valid way to do it. For me, I only play digital files nowadays, all cd's are stored out of the way, the vinyl is sold. The DVDs are ripped and on Kodi on the FireTV, as is all the music, with art. On multiple devices I can search per genre, artist, album, grouping and what's more, I can browse. I am not on windows, so iTunes works fairly well, although I have been looking for a good collection manager/music player since iTunes removed cover flow, which was a nice way to browse through the collection.

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Using a file structure works, but once you go beyond a thousand or so albums and have several machines to play from and several different speakers to play to, you run into the limitations. That's why I chose digital files and a flexible db system.

I have to admit I don't have this problem. My only source for music, movies or series is a hard drive connected to my PC, and also my phone of course but to me it's merely a walkman, where I just put stuff I wanna listen to when I'm out the same way I used to put a few cassettes in a bag, only in it I can store 100 cassettes, and the player I use still files them by albums (not songs or artists) anyway.

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When I switched from CD and VHS/DVD to digital, my purpose was to recreate my shelves, where CD's were filed by artist name and movies by title. I just visually browse it until I find what I feel like listening to/watching, same way I used to. Filing by genres was never of any interest to me (I've actually always been pretty puzzled when realizing most people I know first create genres folders, in which they put artists folders, in which they put albums folders: I have no idea why they do this).

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I have to say I'm an album person, too. I usually listen all day-long to whole albums, not songs or playlists made of favorite songs, so what I needed was just to recreate my shelves, only now I can carry 5000+ albums in a small hard drive, which is convenient given my nomadic lifestyle.

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I guess I'm pretty oldskool in the end: I've given up on physical formats more than a decade ago, but the way I use my library is pretty similar to what it was when I used to have CD's and cassettes.

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Reply #69 posted 05/22/17 1:14pm

mediumdry

I used to always pull out my albums (and to a lesser extend cds) and watch them while listening to music. I rearranged them sometimes for fun (in groupings) or out of necessity (after buying all Al Green and Graham Central Station albums, the space available for G wasn't big enough anymore, so had to move everything after that to new spaces in the cupboard, for instance). It made me addicted to seeing the cover art of what I was playing. It just feels completely wrong and like I don't actually have the track if there is no cover art on a digital file.

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OCD, yeah....

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And also, Jill Jones Jill Jones Jill Jones!

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Whatever the status is of those two albums (and the Stick), I'm happy they are more easily listened to. (I do have a spotify account, for listening to something when it comes up in conversation and I don't happen to be home to load it on my walkman/phone)

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Nobody here has any insight in what is going on with the collections of these services and can tell if this is bootlegging or legit and wether any remastering has been going on?

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Reply #70 posted 05/22/17 2:23pm

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EnDoRpHn said:

databank said:

The Family (and JJ) couldn't have been part of the actual PPR catalogue since the label technically didn't exist until 1987. Madhouse 8 was released in February, so it may also be an "imprint" release as well. The operative question is where the source recordings for all of these re-releases are being obtained. Are they solely those in WBR's possession? I haven't seen anything to indicate that the estate is actually transferring possession or control of recordings held at the physical PP facility to WBR. I have difficulty believing these two are just clever bootlegger uploads, but then again, Deliverance was streaming on all of these services without any apparent copyright clearance or other pre-release due diligence.

Paisley Park first release was ATWID

THE FAMILY Paisley Park/Warner Bros. 25322 1985

Sheila E. ‎– In Romance 1600

Label:

Paisley Park ‎– 32XD-370 1985

Jill Jones ‎(LP, Album)

Paisley Park, Paisley Park

9 25575-1, 1-25575

US

1987

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Reply #71 posted 05/22/17 2:51pm

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getxxxx said:

EnDoRpHn said:

databank said: The Family (and JJ) couldn't have been part of the actual PPR catalogue since the label technically didn't exist until 1987. Madhouse 8 was released in February, so it may also be an "imprint" release as well. The operative question is where the source recordings for all of these re-releases are being obtained. Are they solely those in WBR's possession? I haven't seen anything to indicate that the estate is actually transferring possession or control of recordings held at the physical PP facility to WBR. I have difficulty believing these two are just clever bootlegger uploads, but then again, Deliverance was streaming on all of these services without any apparent copyright clearance or other pre-release due diligence.

Paisley Park first release was ATWID

THE FAMILY Paisley Park/Warner Bros. 25322 1985

Sheila E. ‎– In Romance 1600

Label:

Paisley Park ‎– 32XD-370 1985

Jill Jones ‎(LP, Album)

Paisley Park, Paisley Park

9 25575-1, 1-25575

US

1987

jill jones!!!!

"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #72 posted 05/22/17 10:18pm

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getxxxx said:

EnDoRpHn said:

databank said: The Family (and JJ) couldn't have been part of the actual PPR catalogue since the label technically didn't exist until 1987. Madhouse 8 was released in February, so it may also be an "imprint" release as well. The operative question is where the source recordings for all of these re-releases are being obtained. Are they solely those in WBR's possession? I haven't seen anything to indicate that the estate is actually transferring possession or control of recordings held at the physical PP facility to WBR. I have difficulty believing these two are just clever bootlegger uploads, but then again, Deliverance was streaming on all of these services without any apparent copyright clearance or other pre-release due diligence.

Paisley Park first release was ATWID

THE FAMILY Paisley Park/Warner Bros. 25322 1985

Sheila E. ‎– In Romance 1600

Label:

Paisley Park ‎– 32XD-370 1985

Jill Jones ‎(LP, Album)

Paisley Park, Paisley Park

9 25575-1, 1-25575

US

1987

Prince and Sheila were under contract with WB, not PP: technically their records were not PP releases, WB just agreed to stick the PP logo on them out of courtesy. Alan leeds was clear about this.

IDK where Endorphn's info comes regarding albums being proper PP releases only after 1987 but it's possible: Alan Leeds said that he wasn't sure whether The Family was a proper PP release or a WB release with a PP sticker, and one can assume that ambiguity may be valid for Mazarati, too.

Jill Jones said that she was stuck under contract with PP up until 1993, so she was signed with PP not WB. On the other hand, both Sheila and Taja were able to release albums on WB and Reprise respectively in 1991: it's possible Taja was signed to Reprise not PP in 1987. It was indeed the case with The Time's Pandemonium, another Reprise/PP joint venture.

If the story about 8 (and 16) being scheduled for rerelease on Edel in 1994 is true, then those 2 were definitely PP.

This is relatively important in terms of those projects' future rereleases, because we know WB retained, and is likely to retain forever, the rights to all Sheila and The Time album (alongside the 6's of course). However if they're ever to rerelease any of those with previously unheard material they may have to deal with the estate, in order to have access to vault material.

On the other hand, any album that was pure PP property is now in the sole hands of the estate (including a lot of PP recordings that didn't involve Prince).

In other words, don't hold your breath for a Good Question deluxe CD boxset until the estate is sorted out. Ooops, did I just ruin everyone's hopes? lol lol lol

[Edited 5/22/17 22:19pm]

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Reply #73 posted 05/23/17 4:36am

Laydown

Id rather play my vinyl

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Reply #74 posted 05/27/17 1:02pm

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Just bought The Family album. Definitely the best side project and some great songs on there. Never heard it before and a bargain price on iTunes. Don't hesitate if you haven't heard the album before.
The Sampler Set is great!
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Reply #75 posted 05/28/17 4:28am

kaine

I have never been able to get into The Family album or Sheila's Romance 1600. The bad Prince impersonations just kill it. St. Paul never created his own persona and his vocals are just too weak. I love P's versions of these songs.
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Reply #76 posted 05/28/17 9:44am

TrevorAyer

databank said:



mediumdry said:




databank said:


I don't have this problem with Winamp. My files are filed by my PC, not my music player. Album titles and credits are correct, made by me. Songs tags aren't a concern. When I wanna play an album, I just look for it in the drive and slide it into Winamp. End of story.




A valid way to do it. For me, I only play digital files nowadays, all cd's are stored out of the way, the vinyl is sold. The DVDs are ripped and on Kodi on the FireTV, as is all the music, with art. On multiple devices I can search per genre, artist, album, grouping and what's more, I can browse. I am not on windows, so iTunes works fairly well, although I have been looking for a good collection manager/music player since iTunes removed cover flow, which was a nice way to browse through the collection.


.


Using a file structure works, but once you go beyond a thousand or so albums and have several machines to play from and several different speakers to play to, you run into the limitations. That's why I chose digital files and a flexible db system.



I have to admit I don't have this problem. My only source for music, movies or series is a hard drive connected to my PC, and also my phone of course but to me it's merely a walkman, where I just put stuff I wanna listen to when I'm out the same way I used to put a few cassettes in a bag, only in it I can store 100 cassettes, and the player I use still files them by albums (not songs or artists) anyway.


.


When I switched from CD and VHS/DVD to digital, my purpose was to recreate my shelves, where CD's were filed by artist name and movies by title. I just visually browse it until I find what I feel like listening to/watching, same way I used to. Filing by genres was never of any interest to me (I've actually always been pretty puzzled when realizing most people I know first create genres folders, in which they put artists folders, in which they put albums folders: I have no idea why they do this).


.


I have to say I'm an album person, too. I usually listen all day-long to whole albums, not songs or playlists made of favorite songs, so what I needed was just to recreate my shelves, only now I can carry 5000+ albums in a small hard drive, which is convenient given my nomadic lifestyle.


.


I guess I'm pretty oldskool in the end: I've given up on physical formats more than a decade ago, but the way I use my library is pretty similar to what it was when I used to have CD's and cassettes.



Eye still listen to cassettes mostly ... i have everything in lossless on my laptop and hard drives but i make cassettes of whatever i really love and have tapedecks in my car and every room plus a walkman. Streaming and mp3s are just garbage imo ... been thinking about getting a portable flac player but i still love my cassettes .. i make official artwork for each cassette too ... so I don't miss out on the joy of the physical product in hand ... i find cds and some lossless files to be a bit tinny .. the analog cassette warms up the sound nicely ... im not bitchin for an sott remaster cuz ive had the cassette for 30 years and it still sounds nice and full ...
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Reply #77 posted 05/28/17 9:48am

TrevorAyer

dippydippywaveofmydo said:

Just bought The Family album. Definitely the best side project and some great songs on there. Never heard it before and a bargain price on iTunes. Don't hesitate if you haven't heard the album before.


Eye love the family record as is ... i feel like pauls vocals work great and represent a sound prince was going for in this love letter to susanah ... i dont care to hear prince sing the time or sheila or w+l parts ... they were all legit in my book ... his later proteges how ever were rubbish
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Reply #78 posted 06/12/17 1:34am

SimonCharles

Just in case...16 is on Spotify now - in NZ.

Still no The Family...that's annoying.

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Reply #79 posted 06/12/17 7:09am

mediumdry

TrevorAyer said:

Eye still listen to cassettes mostly ...
Streaming and mp3s are just garbage imo ...

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disbelief

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Reply #80 posted 06/12/17 7:21am

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Id rather play my vinyl


I ripped mine years ago (so I could listen when I'm not at home) and it sounds just fine. A few clicks and pops here and there, but that's just part of the charm.

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Reply #81 posted 06/12/17 8:23pm

Vee0319

I just saw this thread and I am so excited to have the Family on digital. I love every song on this album! Thank so much for letting us all know.
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Reply #82 posted 06/18/17 10:47am

skipthecharade
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I just noticed that 16 is available as well. Apple, Spotify, Google etc.

Oh never mind, was mentioned be4..
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Reply #83 posted 06/18/17 12:32pm

TrevorAyer

mediumdry said:



TrevorAyer said:


Eye still listen to cassettes mostly ...
Streaming and mp3s are just garbage imo ...

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disbelief




Considering everything from prince best years was recorded ON TAPE and sounded far superior to ANYTHING he recorded digitally, AND that 99 percent of all the outtakes came from cassettes prince made for reference, AND prince has said his own high end paisley park studio never sounded as good as his basement analog studio, I suggest u take ur shaking head to the mirror
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