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Reply #90 posted 05/11/17 3:44pm

dance4me3121

Militant said:



Strive said:


Purple Rain Deluxe (Expanded Edition) (3CD/1DVD) dropped to $24.89 on Amazon.


What was the price before?



I believe Amazon refunds the difference for already placed orders.


Amazon refunds the difference when the item you ordered is released .
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Reply #91 posted 05/11/17 4:17pm

BeatofBlackWin
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Militant said:

BeatofBlackWings said:

Lmao, dat Violet Reality watermark. Lawd.

Hey there. How's the light spinning these days? cool

Clever girl. lol

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Reply #92 posted 05/11/17 4:29pm

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SomeSoldier said:

eyewishuheaven said:

Shit, they're gonna trickle 'em out one by one until, when we finally get disc 2, we've already bought downloads of all the tracks.

Clever bastards. lol

They did the same with Art Official Age and Plectrum. I currently have free Apple Music, but I'm not sure when it runs out... hopefully not before the end of June!


Ah, I did not know that. In that case, I'm gonna stop buying them after OD/RG and wait for my discs... I just wanna be able to sing along with the Revolution next Sunday! cool

PRINCE: the only man who could wear high heels and makeup and STILL steal your woman!
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Reply #93 posted 05/11/17 5:28pm

Haystack

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SomeSoldier said:


Can't find it on iTunes uk, but they've added the duration, so it will hopefully be up soon. $1,000,000 question - who sings Our Destiny? Please let it be Prince...

I think it's Jill Jones. Definitely not Prince.



It has to be a female vocal on 'Our Destiny' because the lyric 'I don't want to have your baby' doesn't sound quite right if a man sings it.
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Reply #94 posted 05/11/17 5:35pm

TrivialPursuit

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Haystack said:


It has to be a female vocal on 'Our Destiny' because the lyric 'I don't want to have your baby' doesn't sound quite right if a man sings it.


Okay well, that's sexist.

There are versions with Jill Jones, and Lisa Coleman doing lead vocals. I think it's Lisa. She has that more monotone voice that I'm hearing on this. Jill has a bit more and different range. We'll know soon enough.

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #95 posted 05/11/17 6:00pm

thisisreece

So how does the sequencing of Electric Intercourse and Our Destiny/Roadhouse Garden sound back to back?


Hundalasiliah!
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Reply #96 posted 05/11/17 6:02pm

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That's definitely Lisa singing.

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Reply #97 posted 05/11/17 6:05pm

Haystack

TrivialPursuit said:



Haystack said:



It has to be a female vocal on 'Our Destiny' because the lyric 'I don't want to have your baby' doesn't sound quite right if a man sings it.


Okay well, that's sexist.

There are versions with Jill Jones, and Lisa Coleman doing lead vocals. I think it's Lisa. She has that more monotone voice that I'm hearing on this. Jill has a bit more and different range. We'll know soon enough.



How is that sexist?

A woman saying 'I don't want to have your baby' is telling a man she's not there to pander to his desires and future family plans.
A man singing the same line would suggest he isn't prepared to take on her child/children. Would you rather that was what the line meant?
As far as I know, men don't have babies. So Prince singing that he 'don't want to have your baby' would sound wrong, no?'

Stop desperately looking for sexism when it clearly isn't there.

Think before you post.
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Reply #98 posted 05/11/17 6:51pm

mbdtyler

TrivialPursuit said:



Haystack said:



It has to be a female vocal on 'Our Destiny' because the lyric 'I don't want to have your baby' doesn't sound quite right if a man sings it.


Okay well, that's sexist.

There are versions with Jill Jones, and Lisa Coleman doing lead vocals. I think it's Lisa. She has that more monotone voice that I'm hearing on this. Jill has a bit more and different range. We'll know soon enough.



Monotone? Cmon, she sounds better than that smile I'm really glad theyre putting out the version with Lisa's vocals, I love her voice
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Reply #99 posted 05/11/17 8:02pm

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mbdtyler said:


Monotone? Cmon, she sounds better than that smile I'm really glad theyre putting out the version with Lisa's vocals, I love her voice


Many people have described her voice that way; it's not an insult. She does have a monotone quality to her voice.

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #100 posted 05/11/17 8:07pm

TrivialPursuit

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Haystack said:


Stop desperately looking for sexism when it clearly isn't there. Think before you post.


LOL OMG this made me LOL, truly.


Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #101 posted 05/11/17 8:42pm

PurpleTrollste
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How does everyone feel about the sound quality with Our Destiny/Roadhouse?
Sounds good to my ears
I haven't heard the bootleg, so I have nothing to compare it to
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Reply #102 posted 05/11/17 8:43pm

PurpleTrollste
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TrivialPursuit said:



Haystack said:



Stop desperately looking for sexism when it clearly isn't there. Think before you post.


LOL OMG this made me LOL, truly.



Not really related, but that's from my personal favorite movie
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Reply #103 posted 05/11/17 8:47pm

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PurpleTrollster said:

How does everyone feel about the sound quality with Our Destiny/Roadhouse? Sounds good to my ears I haven't heard the bootleg, so I have nothing to compare it to

It sounds pristine to me. But orgers gonna org. Its cute.

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Reply #104 posted 05/11/17 8:51pm

ForceofNature

rdhull said:

PurpleTrollster said:

How does everyone feel about the sound quality with Our Destiny/Roadhouse? Sounds good to my ears I haven't heard the bootleg, so I have nothing to compare it to

It sounds pristine to me. But orgers gonna org. Its cute.

Compared to the track before it on this new release, Electric Intercourse, you can hear the lesser fidelity on this one. Its not bad by any means, but it definitely sounds like its from a high gen tape as well as stiched together from two sources because the fidely between OD and RG are quite different in nature. I am enjoying these tracks though either way

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Reply #105 posted 05/11/17 8:55pm

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Whoever is calling the shots with this project at WB does not have the required level of respect for Prince, his music, and specifically for this album. This is the pivotal Prince album. A pivotal album in the history of music period.

This project should not be half-assed in any way. It should be perfect. Sourcing some of these songs from subpar copies, i.e. Our Destiny/Roadhouse Garden, is an absolute joke, and a slap in the face to Prince and his legacy.

They should have released the project he submitted to them. The end. When the estate is settled, and the vault is able to be properly curated by an appropriate team of former Prince associates is when they should be putting out unreleased music. Who in the hell is sourcing some of this shit? T?! Richard Dower?!
"That's when stars collide. When there's space for what u want, and ur heart is open wide."
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Reply #106 posted 05/11/17 8:55pm

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ForceofNature said:

rdhull said:

It sounds pristine to me. But orgers gonna org. Its cute.

Compared to the track before it on this new release, Electric Intercourse, you can hear the lesser fidelity on this one. Its not bad by any means, but it definitely sounds like its from a high gen tape as well as stiched together from two sources because the fidely between OD and RG are quite different in nature. I am enjoying these tracks though either way

Im listening on earbuds and its prstine on those lol. And it sounds less muddy than EI. To me. What the hell is goin on here?

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Reply #107 posted 05/11/17 9:01pm

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rdhull said:

PurpleTrollster said:

How does everyone feel about the sound quality with Our Destiny/Roadhouse? Sounds good to my ears I haven't heard the bootleg, so I have nothing to compare it to

It sounds pristine to me. But orgers gonna org. Its cute.

Maybe others can hear things that you can't? Like maybe some of us actually work in audio and have a fucking clue.

This is far from pristine.

Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain.
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Reply #108 posted 05/11/17 9:04pm

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bluegangsta said:

rdhull said:

It sounds pristine to me. But orgers gonna org. Its cute.

Maybe others can hear things that you can't? Like maybe some of us actually work in audio and have a fucking clue.

This is far from pristine.

^^^cutest of them all love

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Reply #109 posted 05/11/17 9:09pm

ForceofNature

rdhull said:

ForceofNature said:

Compared to the track before it on this new release, Electric Intercourse, you can hear the lesser fidelity on this one. Its not bad by any means, but it definitely sounds like its from a high gen tape as well as stiched together from two sources because the fidely between OD and RG are quite different in nature. I am enjoying these tracks though either way

Im listening on earbuds and its prstine on those lol. And it sounds less muddy than EI. To me. What the hell is goin on here?

Well to be honest I love earbuds for their convenience but unless you got some high end ones - ain't nothin' is gonna sound pristine on those, nor will the frequency response on them be accurate enough to judge pristineness in the first place lol.

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Reply #110 posted 05/11/17 9:11pm

mbdtyler

It might not be 100% crystal clear in the way some people were expecting, but shit, it's not any worse than the sound of ATWIAD or something like "Little Red Corvette" and people love the hell out of those.

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Reply #111 posted 05/11/17 9:12pm

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ForceofNature said:

rdhull said:

Im listening on earbuds and its prstine on those lol. And it sounds less muddy than EI. To me. What the hell is goin on here?

Well to be honest I love earbuds for their convenience but unless you got some high end ones - ain't nothin' is gonna sound pristine on those, nor will the frequency response on them be accurate enough to judge pristineness in the first place lol.

Then why does it sound great on them? That was my point. If it sounds good on them...

Tomorrow in the car will be the litmus test.

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Reply #112 posted 05/11/17 9:21pm

ForceofNature

rdhull said:

ForceofNature said:

Well to be honest I love earbuds for their convenience but unless you got some high end ones - ain't nothin' is gonna sound pristine on those, nor will the frequency response on them be accurate enough to judge pristineness in the first place lol.

Then why does it sound great on them? That was my point. If it sounds good on them...

Tomorrow in the car will be the litmus test.

Well not to sound too overly audio-elitist because I am really not knocking anyone or anything, but after owning a few pairs of decent quality studio headphones as well as decent monitors, nothing on earbuds sound that good lol. I love earbuds because of their compactness and their convienience, however when you look at earbuds they have: poor frequency response, and poor stereo imaging. So a lot of the frequencies that will reveal the flaws of the recording are not being transmitted in earbuds either well or at all to begin with. Same with car speakers. But even on my earbuds (I just tried now), I could discern the tape flaws of Our Destiny/RG.

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Reply #113 posted 05/11/17 9:24pm

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ForceofNature said:

rdhull said:

Then why does it sound great on them? That was my point. If it sounds good on them...

Tomorrow in the car will be the litmus test.

Well not to sound too overly audio-elitist because I am really not knocking anyone or anything, but after owning a few pairs of decent quality studio headphones as well as decent monitors, nothing on earbuds sound that good lol. I love earbuds because of their compactness and their convienience, however when you look at earbuds they have: poor frequency response, and poor stereo imaging. So a lot of the frequencies that will reveal the flaws of the recording are not being transmitted in earbuds either well or at all to begin with. Same with car speakers. But even on my earbuds (I just tried now), I could discern the tape flaws of Our Destiny/RG.

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This is yalls issue, Using this high tech bs to find flaws.

Yall are izod wearing mama jammas.

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Reply #114 posted 05/11/17 9:26pm

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rdhull said:

Then why does it sound great on them? That was my point. If it sounds good on them...

Tomorrow in the car will be the litmus test.

Ah yes, because the car is the best environment to test quality. I take back everything I said earlier. lol

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Reply #115 posted 05/11/17 9:28pm

ForceofNature

rdhull said:

ForceofNature said:

Well not to sound too overly audio-elitist because I am really not knocking anyone or anything, but after owning a few pairs of decent quality studio headphones as well as decent monitors, nothing on earbuds sound that good lol. I love earbuds because of their compactness and their convienience, however when you look at earbuds they have: poor frequency response, and poor stereo imaging. So a lot of the frequencies that will reveal the flaws of the recording are not being transmitted in earbuds either well or at all to begin with. Same with car speakers. But even on my earbuds (I just tried now), I could discern the tape flaws of Our Destiny/RG.

[Edited 5/11/17 21:22pm]

This is yalls issue, Using this high tech bs to find flaws.

Yall are izod wearing mama jammas.

"High tech BS". I don't now man, I may be a music major and so this is my area of knowledge but there is no bullshitting going on here. But hey all I know is I am glad to have the magic of listening to music on something a bit better than earbuds, its a totally different world of immersion. No offense

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Reply #116 posted 05/11/17 9:29pm

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bluegangsta said:

rdhull said:

Then why does it sound great on them? That was my point. If it sounds good on them...

Tomorrow in the car will be the litmus test.

Ah yes, because the car is the best environment to test quality. I take back everything I said earlier. lol

Cute as a mug! You really know how to get in my pants. Sans liquor too mmm

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Reply #117 posted 05/11/17 9:32pm

littlerockjams

So, I'm listening on Grado open backs. I'm curious, as some of you claim to be audiologists, what frequencies do you not hear? What is lacking to your ear? What are you hearing that tells you this was sourced from anything other than the master and not mixed this way?

And just a little about me, I transcribe music every day for a living. So I have a good ear, but I'm looking to maybe learn something from you.
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Reply #118 posted 05/11/17 9:37pm

EddieC

SchlomoThaHomo said:

Whoever is calling the shots with this project at WB does not have the required level of respect for Prince, his music, and specifically for this album. This is the pivotal Prince album. A pivotal album in the history of music period. This project should not be half-assed in any way. It should be perfect. Sourcing some of these songs from subpar copies, i.e. Our Destiny/Roadhouse Garden, is an absolute joke, and a slap in the face to Prince and his legacy. They should have released the project he submitted to them. The end. When the estate is settled, and the vault is able to be properly curated by an appropriate team of former Prince associates is when they should be putting out unreleased music. Who in the hell is sourcing some of this shit? T?! Richard Dower?!

Okay, while I'm amused at the ending comments about T and Richard Dower, I think we all need to realize that this might be what we have to look forward to for much of the vault material. We've all read the reports that Prince spent years neglecting the tapes, and while some employees encouraged conservation and preservation efforts, which Prince gave some attention to, we have no reason to believe that much progress was made, and certainly not everything was ever dealt with. So what's in the "Vault" (especially before he switched to working primarily at Paisley, or even later) might not be that great as far as quality at this point--assuming that much of what we want to hear was ever put there to begin with. There's a very real chance that some highly desired tracks are just plain gone, or that the best copies still in existence are those held by some collectors. Yes, I hope that Moonbeam Levels (and from reports OD/RG) is not indicative of what we can expect--but I wouldn't be at all surprised if it worked out that way.

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Reply #119 posted 05/11/17 9:42pm

ForceofNature

littlerockjams said:

So, I'm listening on Grado open backs. I'm curious, as some of you claim to be audiologists, what frequencies do you not hear? What is lacking to your ear? What are you hearing that tells you this was sourced from anything other than the master and not mixed this way? And just a little about me, I transcribe music every day for a living. So I have a good ear, but I'm looking to maybe learn something from you.

I have never claimed to be an audiologist - just a music major who transcribes on a regular basis as well. Nor am I the be all end all expert, but to me I hear instances of noise reduction as well as wishy washy high end that is very consistent with sources that are of a higher generation. It could possibly be the masters but if so they have degraded massively. All I know is you can easily make out the difference in sonic qualities between OD and RG and the occasional dropouts that were present on the bootlegs as well which lead me to believe that they were not from the master tape

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