Is that P on guitar on Run Amok?

I listened to the entire set, and the main track that hooked me is The Slaughterhouse. I listened to it the first time half way through and thought, "Wait a minute...I think I love this" and started over.

I went on to listen to other tracks and kept coming back to The Slaughterhouse. I listened to it maybe 6 times since last night. I love that lead line and I posted on a friend's FB page about it because it sounds initially like an organ ran through a distortion, then it sounds like guitar. Just when I finally decided it must be synth because of the moduation and bends, there's what sounds like fret noise. I love it.

In some ways it seems to be the most Pre-Madhouse track of all The Flesh stuff in how it's stripped down and funky. That synth patch (or guitar synth/ or organ) seems like it sounds be a similar patch to what's used on Madhouse 6, only a lower octave and more effects.

How is it that the sound quality seems better (at least on this track) than the mastered Madhouse tracks? Maybe it's just me, and maybe it's because I've blasting out my eardrums listening to this on headphones.

I'm going back to listen to it now...

paulludvig said:

Farfunknugin said:

Slow groove is ok but Groove in G Flat Minor is the bomb, best track imo The blue angel is soaring.

In the end it's all groovey

[Edited 5/3/17 17:29pm]

But who is playing guitar? According to Princevault Prince is on drums for Groove in G Flat Minor. I think Princevault is wrong on this one.

[Edited 5/4/17 7:56am]

It's got to be wrong theres no way that's not Prince

FragileUndertow said:

Anyone notice this , im sure its not just me.

"Groove In G Flat Minor" Sounds like a lot like the first and untitled Instrumental track from Small Club (8/19/88)

The keys and guitar riffs, and when the electric guitar full kicks in midway sound familiar

Good ear, there's a part in the solo towards the end which is note for note the solo he does during the Small Club opener so that clears it up for me.

NightGod said:

I listened to the entire set, and the main track that hooked me is The Slaughterhouse. I listened to it the first time half way through and thought, "Wait a minute...I think I love this" and started over.

I went on to listen to other tracks and kept coming back to The Slaughterhouse. I listened to it maybe 6 times since last night. I love that lead line and I posted on a friend's FB page about it because it sounds initially like an organ ran through a distortion, then it sounds like guitar. Just when I finally decided it must be synth because of the moduation and bends, there's what sounds like fret noise. I love it.

In some ways it seems to be the most Pre-Madhouse track of all The Flesh stuff in how it's stripped down and funky. That synth patch (or guitar synth/ or organ) seems like it sounds be a similar patch to what's used on Madhouse 6, only a lower octave and more effects.

How is it that the sound quality seems better (at least on this track) than the mastered Madhouse tracks? Maybe it's just me, and maybe it's because I've blasting out my eardrums listening to this on headphones.

I'm going back to listen to it now...

slaughterhouse first reminded me of "Xpand" from the Xpectation album.

then it just unfolded in all it's freakin' amazingness and i fell in love with it all for its damn self

I'm sure the track titled "Damn" by the bootleggers is in fact just a rawer version or a rehearsal take on "U Gotta Shake Something."

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If you check "U Gotta Shake Something" at the 2:06 mark, he says "Jimmy Black and the Whites," and at 2:22 he says "Jimmy White and the Blacks" just like he says in the track labeled "Damn."

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galactus said:

I'm sure the track titled "Damn" by the bootleggers is in fact just a rawer version or a rehearsal take on "U Gotta Shake Something."

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If you check "U Gotta Shake Something" at the 2:06 mark, he says "Jimmy Black and the Whites," and at 2:22 he says "Jimmy White and the Blacks" just like he says in the track labeled "Damn."

[Edited 5/4/17 17:07pm]

Yeah that's what I was saying a page or so back. Sounds like Damn is the basic track before overdubs.


Is it just me, or do some of the tracks we previously had not sound as good as what was already circulating?

Yes

dance4me3121 said:

Are the new tracks like "slaughterhouse" and "Run amok" instrumentals?

I love this release!! Can't get enough of Junk Music! I like it better than the official Madhouse releases!! Thanks to all involved with this release, especially Prince and the band!

Whoa, one hour of Junk Music?! I'd love to hear this.

Hopefully prince vault will get a scrubbing & we can find out whose playing what on each track of the Flesh sessions. Although there's a gray area my ears never lie..

Farfunknugin said:

Hopefully prince vault will get a scrubbing & we can find out whose playing what on each track of the Flesh sessions. Although there's a gray area my ears never lie..

Here's a basic breakdown of the recordings according to PRINCEVAULT:

*The December 26, 1985 recording session at Sunset Sound, Hollywood, CA, USA

A Couple Of Miles

Prince - all vocals and instruments, except where noted

Eric Leeds - tenor and baritone saxophone (overdubbed on December 30, 1985)

*The December 28, 1985 jam session (a.k.a Paisley Jam) at Sunset Sound, Hollywood, CA, USA

Slaughterhouse

U Just Can't Stop

Run Amok

Mobile

Madrid

Breathless

High Calonic

12 Keys

Prince - all instruments, except where noted

Sheila E. - drums

Levi Seacer, Jr. - bass guitar

Eric Leeds - saxophone

*The January 5, 1986 jam session (a.k.a Everybody's Jam) at Sunset Sound, Hollywood, CA, USA

Groove In C Minor

Slow Groove In G Major

Groove In G Flat Minor

Prince - drums

Sheila E. - percussion

Jonathan Melvoin - percussion

Lisa Coleman - piano

Wendy Melvoin - guitar, bass guitar

Levi Seacer, Jr. - bass guitar

Eric Leeds - saxophone

Junk Music (63 minute full version)

Junk Music (the 19 minute edit for "The Flesh" album is taken from the 63 minute version of Junk Music)

Up From Below (also taken from the 63 minute version of Junk Music)

Y'All Want Some More? (also taken from the 63 minute version of Junk Music)

Prince - drums

Sheila E. - percussion

Jonathan Melvoin - percussion

Lisa Coleman - piano

Wendy Melvoin - guitar

Levi Seacer, Jr. - bass guitar

Eric Leeds - saxophone

TheVaultKeeper said:

Farfunknugin said:

Hopefully prince vault will get a scrubbing & we can find out whose playing what on each track of the Flesh sessions. Although there's a gray area my ears never lie..

Here's a basic breakdown of the recordings according to PRINCEVAULT:

*The December 26, 1985 recording session at Sunset Sound, Hollywood, CA, USA

A Couple Of Miles

Prince - all vocals and instruments, except where noted

Eric Leeds - tenor and baritone saxophone (overdubbed on December 30, 1985)

*The December 28, 1985 jam session (a.k.a Paisley Jam) at Sunset Sound, Hollywood, CA, USA

Slaughterhouse

U Just Can't Stop

Run Amok

Mobile

Madrid

Breathless

High Calonic

12 Keys

Prince - all instruments, except where noted

Sheila E. - drums

Levi Seacer, Jr. - bass guitar

Eric Leeds - saxophone

*The January 5, 1986 jam session (a.k.a Everybody's Jam) at Sunset Sound, Hollywood, CA, USA

Groove In C Minor

Slow Groove In G Major

Groove In G Flat Minor

Prince - drums

Sheila E. - percussion

Jonathan Melvoin - percussion

Lisa Coleman - piano

Wendy Melvoin - guitar, bass guitar

Levi Seacer, Jr. - bass guitar

Eric Leeds - saxophone

Junk Music (63 minute full version)

Junk Music (the 19 minute edit for "The Flesh" album is taken from the 63 minute version of Junk Music)

Up From Below (also taken from the 63 minute version of Junk Music)

Y'All Want Some More? (also taken from the 63 minute version of Junk Music)

Prince - drums

Sheila E. - percussion

Jonathan Melvoin - percussion

Lisa Coleman - piano

Wendy Melvoin - guitar

Levi Seacer, Jr. - bass guitar

Eric Leeds - saxophone

Yes I know this already. Groove in C Minor is clearly Prince soloing so by scrubbing I mean their description needs to be changed, he's also soloing on Slow groove in G Major

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Farfunknugin said:

Hopefully prince vault will get a scrubbing & we can find out whose playing what on each track of the Flesh sessions. Although there's a gray area my ears never lie..

We need the group to get together and talk about it: Sheila E Levi Seacer jr Eric Leeds Lisa Coleman Wendy Melvoin Jonathan Melvoin(RIP) Prince(RIP)

Thank you very much, I love informational posts like these.

TheVaultKeeper said:

Farfunknugin said:

Hopefully prince vault will get a scrubbing & we can find out whose playing what on each track of the Flesh sessions. Although there's a gray area my ears never lie..

Here's a basic breakdown of the recordings according to PRINCEVAULT:

*The December 26, 1985 recording session at Sunset Sound, Hollywood, CA, USA

A Couple Of Miles

Prince - all vocals and instruments, except where noted

Eric Leeds - tenor and baritone saxophone (overdubbed on December 30, 1985)

*The December 28, 1985 jam session (a.k.a Paisley Jam) at Sunset Sound, Hollywood, CA, USA

Slaughterhouse

U Just Can't Stop

Run Amok

Mobile

Madrid

Breathless

High Calonic

12 Keys

Prince - all instruments, except where noted

Sheila E. - drums

Levi Seacer, Jr. - bass guitar

Eric Leeds - saxophone

*The January 5, 1986 jam session (a.k.a Everybody's Jam) at Sunset Sound, Hollywood, CA, USA

Groove In C Minor

Slow Groove In G Major

Groove In G Flat Minor

Prince - drums

Sheila E. - percussion

Jonathan Melvoin - percussion

Lisa Coleman - piano

Wendy Melvoin - guitar, bass guitar

Levi Seacer, Jr. - bass guitar

Eric Leeds - saxophone

Junk Music (63 minute full version)

Junk Music (the 19 minute edit for "The Flesh" album is taken from the 63 minute version of Junk Music)

Up From Below (also taken from the 63 minute version of Junk Music)

Y'All Want Some More? (also taken from the 63 minute version of Junk Music)

Prince - drums

Sheila E. - percussion

Jonathan Melvoin - percussion

Lisa Coleman - piano

Wendy Melvoin - guitar

Levi Seacer, Jr. - bass guitar

Eric Leeds - saxophone

OldFriends4Sale said:

Farfunknugin said:

Hopefully prince vault will get a scrubbing & we can find out whose playing what on each track of the Flesh sessions. Although there's a gray area my ears never lie..

We need the group to get together and talk about it: Sheila E Levi Seacer jr Eric Leeds Lisa Coleman Wendy Melvoin Jonathan Melvoin(RIP) Prince(RIP)

Yes indeedy!

Just Princevaulted these jams n they've changed sum personnel on tracks. Apparently that is Prince on guitar 4 Slow Groove n G Flat Minor n Wendy on C Minor

"Damn" is not a title made up by Sabotage. I've always known it as that. Its does have a lot ofmusical similarities to "U Gotta Shake Something". The fact though that was produced as a seperate track makes it just an independant idea when it was recorded. The fact that both songs mention "James Black/White and the Whites/Black" leads me to believe the song is a precursor to 'U Gotta Shake Something". He does say "We should of called this one "Mobile' "which you can also say is similar in parts to both tracks. Its all from the same sessions not counting the overdubs.

Big Chick

"Securing ensuring thee"

[Edited 5/5/17 15:46pm]

Also it says they jammed on For Love for a half hour 2. I wanna hear that now . Nah, much love for these new 1s. They kick much ass

purplepolitician said:

Just Princevaulted these jams n they've changed sum personnel on tracks. Apparently that is Prince on guitar 4 Slow Groove n G Flat Minor n Wendy on C Minor

I think it's P on both.

The Flesh is like a fine wine. Take your time to digest it. I haven't listened to the Sabotage version but for the most part the songs are presented in the time frame of when they were recorded. The most enjoyable aspect is the musical progression of the project. The Flesh has always been one of my favorites of the unreleased projects. I dont know why Sab stuck tracks that have nothing to do with the project and interupted the flow. My advice is to make a playlist that discards those tracks. "Conversation Piece" has nothing to do with the project. My advice though is to take your time with it. It's 3 and a half hours of brillant music and a fascinating project.

Big Chick

"Securing Ensuring Thee"

[Edited 5/5/17 16:04pm]

BigChick said:

Struggling with how to categorize these tracks in my library. Rehearsal? Studio Outtakes?

This is how I have it listed:

01 [1985.12.06] A Couple Of Miles- Prince & Eric

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24 [1986.01.12] Conversation Piece - Prince & Eric

I've seperated them into 4 folders.

[1985] 28 December, "Paisley Jam"
[1985] 30 December, "Jimmy Black & The Whites"
[1986] 5 January, "Everybody's Jam"
[1986] The Flesh (Album)

groovement said:

This is how I have it listed:

01 [1985.12.06] A Couple Of Miles- Prince & Eric

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[1985.12.28] The Flesh Sessions Vol 1

Prince- piano & guitar
Eric- flute & sax
Levi- bass
Sheila- drums

02 Madrid
03 Slaughterhouse #1
04 Slaughterhouse #2
05 Breathless
06 Just Cant Stop
07 Run Amok
08 12 Keys / The Question Of U
09 Madrid (edit)
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[1985.12.28] The Flesh Sessions Vol 2

Prince- piano,guitar
Eric- flute,sax
Levi- bass
Sheila- drums

10 High Calonic
11 Mobile
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[1985.12.30] The Flesh Sessions Vol 3

Prince- guitar,vocals
Eric- sax,vocals
Levi- bass,vocals
Sheila- drums,vocals

12 U Gotta Shake Something
13 Voodoo
14 Most Strongest Whiskey
15 Damn
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[1986.01.05] The Flesh Sessions Vol 4 pt1

Prince- bass(#16), guitar(#17,#18)
Eric- sax
Lisa- piano
Wendy- guitar(#16), bass(#17,#18)
Levi- bass
Sheila- drums
Jonathan Melvoin- congas

16 Groove In C Minor
17 Slow Groove In G Major
18 Groove in G Flat Minor

19 For Love
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[1986.01.05] The Flesh Sessions Vol 4 pt2

Prince- drums
Eric- sax
Lisa- piano
Wendy- guitar
Levi- bass
Sheila- congas,percussion

20 Junk Music
21 Yall Want Some More?
22 Up From Below
23 Junk Music - long version

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24 [1986.01.12] Conversation Piece - Prince & Eric

cool!

Got it last night. Afraid to start listening because I got IRL shit I should be doing!

But this set is everything!

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