AhPook said:

williamb610 said:

This is a total shitfest! Tracks we already have...no 2 albums of unreleased material, no 2 DVD concerts.

I may not buy any of it!

Warner Brothers and the estate are totally disappointing.

You're complaining because material that you have acquired illegally is being released officially? What it comes down to is that we're all a bunch of thieves and we're whining that WB doesnt think we're special. What a bunch of cry babies. This is a great release. The fact that the deluxe edition takes the bootleg owning snob fanbase into consideration at all should be applauded. I'm happy with this.

AhPook said:

williamb610 said:

This is a total shitfest! Tracks we already have...no 2 albums of unreleased material, no 2 DVD concerts.

I may not buy any of it!

Warner Brothers and the estate are totally disappointing.

You're complaining because material that you have acquired illegally is being released officially? What it comes down to is that we're all a bunch of thieves and we're whining that WB doesnt think we're special. What a bunch of cry babies. This is a great release. The fact that the deluxe edition takes the bootleg owning snob fanbase into consideration at all should be applauded. I'm happy with this.

indeed...the tracks are even titled with traditional bootleg titles....

i'm not even that big a fan of this album, but that 2 disc set is sweet. i'm only disappointed that we will seemingly not get a 'purple rain: the new master'. i'd've loved to have heard that...

I would have been satisfied with this set as-is, if it included the 2nd concert video, which was originally announced. That video was widely assumed to be First Avenue 1983, which is so fascinating from a historical perspective, where we can see the actual recording of several songs that have been part of our lives for decades. Such a missed opportunity that they wouldn't include it as part of the set.

And yeah, I'm bummed with the lack of a 2nd disc of unreleased tracks. I always dreamed of hearing the version of When Doves Cry with bass. But I'm more disappointed by the lack of the 2nd video.

[Edited 4/28/17 11:40am]

jaypotton said:

And for those folks saying THIS package is what Prince delivered to Warners I say NO WAY. I would be willing to lay money on the Prince version of PR remastered as having, at most, just one or two unreleased songs (one being Electric Intercourse as he played it live in 2014). I truly believe it would have been 2 X CDs with CD 2 being closer to the single edits b sides and 12 inch edits along with one or two unreleased. There is no way Prince would have included We Can Fuck on there.

I would not be so sure about that I am sure there was something in the agreement that gave him final say and many people said he was not so hard core JW as he had been.

Think about songs like Exlier. He also appeared to be dating a few young ladies so I do not buy that no sex and no cursing stuff.

williamb610 said:

This is a total shitfest! Tracks we already have...no 2 albums of unreleased material, no 2 DVD concerts.

I may not buy any of it!

Warner Brothers and the estate are totally disappointing.

I disagree I think it is a fitting box set and I am looking forward to buying it. They did alright by me

laurarichardson said:

http://www.officialprincemusic.com/

So awesome and fascinating to hear this track, infact just to finally hear anything that hasnt been heard b4 from P. Kinda makes me feel like a thief who broke in2 the vault, and Im not ashamed. And while I prefer the live version of EI , this one is cool too in is own unique way. To me it sounds like an 80s video game version of the live performance. Now bring on Fathers Song!

jaypotton said:

laurarichardson said:

I would not be so sure about that I am sure there was something in the agreement that gave him final say and many people said he was not so hard core JW as he had been.

Think about songs like Exlier. He also appeared to be dating a few young ladies so I do not buy that no sex and no cursing stuff.

True. He even swore on Funknroll so I agree there was a relaxing of the JW side.

ido not think he said what you heard

jaypotton said:

jaypotton said:

laurarichardson said:

I would not be so sure about that I am sure there was something in the agreement that gave him final say and many people said he was not so hard core JW as he had been.

Think about songs like Exlier. He also appeared to be dating a few young ladies so I do not buy that no sex and no cursing stuff.

True. He even swore on Funknroll so I agree there was a relaxing of the JW side.

What did he say? I can't hear any swearing.

brassneck said:

feeluupp said:

Since nobody seems to see my post...

There is an OFFICIAL SITE to order and preorder, a new site that was just created today:

http://www.officialprincemusic.com/

[Edited 4/28/17 11:00am]

I also posted it a few pages back. People don't read.

a lot of people on this site don't want to read or understand. the more sense your post makes,
the less inclined they are to read it and the bigger the chance they'll just ask the question again

IstenSzek said:

brassneck said:

I also posted it a few pages back. People don't read.

a lot of people on this site don't want to read or understand. the more sense your post makes,
the less inclined they are to read it and the bigger the chance they'll just ask the question again

i saw it a few times and went there too! and i am still going to order from Amazon....

RODSERLING said:

I won't buy it.

30/35 euros for one disc of unreleased music no thanks. Are they crazy ?

I hoped there was the two lives in blu ray - but schokingly, there is only 1 dvd (!!). We are not in 2004 anymore...What is the point in remastering a video tape in 2017, if it is not for a HD release ?

That still proves WB can't make a real good deluxe edition, even more than one year after Prince's passing...and this is for Purple Rain ! The only Prince popular album worldwide.

.

WB missed the point, like Sony missed the point with MJ's posthumous release. Commercially, MJ's release never recovered from it, to the point where they don' even want to release unreleased track anymore. Because nobody buys them.

.

WB could make a music video of EI, using footage from the live version. But they won't do that. They are really lacking commercial sense.

I can't believe they waited more than one year for this disappointment. It could have easily been released last year.

[Edited 4/28/17 1:04am]

Is there such a thing as remastering video tape (VHS)? I didn't think there was, at least not the extent of transferring it to HD/Blu-Ray.

Se7en said:

RODSERLING said:

I won't buy it.

30/35 euros for one disc of unreleased music no thanks. Are they crazy ?

I hoped there was the two lives in blu ray - but schokingly, there is only 1 dvd (!!). We are not in 2004 anymore...What is the point in remastering a video tape in 2017, if it is not for a HD release ?

That still proves WB can't make a real good deluxe edition, even more than one year after Prince's passing...and this is for Purple Rain ! The only Prince popular album worldwide.

.

WB missed the point, like Sony missed the point with MJ's posthumous release. Commercially, MJ's release never recovered from it, to the point where they don' even want to release unreleased track anymore. Because nobody buys them.

.

WB could make a music video of EI, using footage from the live version. But they won't do that. They are really lacking commercial sense.

I can't believe they waited more than one year for this disappointment. It could have easily been released last year.

[Edited 4/28/17 1:04am]

Is there such a thing as remastering video tape (VHS)? I didn't think there was, at least not the extent of transferring it to HD/Blu-Ray.

There is if there is better source material than a VHS.

Se7en said:

RODSERLING said:

I won't buy it.

30/35 euros for one disc of unreleased music no thanks. Are they crazy ?

I hoped there was the two lives in blu ray - but schokingly, there is only 1 dvd (!!). We are not in 2004 anymore...What is the point in remastering a video tape in 2017, if it is not for a HD release ?

That still proves WB can't make a real good deluxe edition, even more than one year after Prince's passing...and this is for Purple Rain ! The only Prince popular album worldwide.

.

WB missed the point, like Sony missed the point with MJ's posthumous release. Commercially, MJ's release never recovered from it, to the point where they don' even want to release unreleased track anymore. Because nobody buys them.

.

WB could make a music video of EI, using footage from the live version. But they won't do that. They are really lacking commercial sense.

I can't believe they waited more than one year for this disappointment. It could have easily been released last year.

[Edited 4/28/17 1:04am]

Is there such a thing as remastering video tape (VHS)? I didn't think there was, at least not the extent of transferring it to HD/Blu-Ray.

They wouldn't be remastering the VHS, it was shot on film.

Se7en said:

Is there such a thing as remastering video tape (VHS)? I didn't think there was, at least not the extent of transferring it to HD/Blu-Ray.

Good question! Someone on here in a thread (forgive me if you're reading this) talked about how it might have been captured on BETA which was a better resolution than VHS. If someone had the original BETA, it's a better source to work with to tweak it. I don't really hold out hope for that, though. The video is tinny and high treble and needs a boost of bass, and some color correction. I don't think they did any of that, but we'll find out. It was never on DVD before, so that's the pull, not that the concert itself was remastered; just that it's now on a DVD.

"a never-seen on DVD of Prince and The Revolution Live! in 1985" That's the rub.

TrivialPursuit said:

Se7en said:

Is there such a thing as remastering video tape (VHS)? I didn't think there was, at least not the extent of transferring it to HD/Blu-Ray.

Good question! Someone on here in a thread (forgive me if you're reading this) talked about how it might have been captured on BETA which was a better resolution than VHS. If someone had the original BETA, it's a better source to work with to tweak it. I don't really hold out hope for that, though. The video is tinny and high treble and needs a boost of bass, and some color correction. I don't think they did any of that, but we'll find out. It was never on DVD before, so that's the pull, not that the concert itself was remastered; just that it's now on a DVD.

"a never-seen on DVD of Prince and The Revolution Live! in 1985" That's the rub.

urgh, exactly. it's like every press release and statement you can't take at face value
anymore, you have to read the small print, and analyse it carefully before you come
to any sort of conclusion.

although, what we're learning from this release is that they will give us the minimum
they can get away with - AFTER they promise double

electric intercourse is great soundquality, no complaints there. that's great. but there
are many things about this release that are shoddy.

and then the official site says "This is Prince’s final word on his definitive masterpiece."

deebee said:

Nice to hear the studio version of EI, and it certainly has its charm, but I do hope the live version gets an official release at some point, as it's the definitive version of the song and one of his most sublime moments. I can see why they opted for this, to dangle something new and shiny before expectant fans, but I kinda think it should have been the live version that was included on this set.

Perhaps Warners are holding back the First Avenue concert for a proper release at a future date - DVD and CD; versions with and without overdubs, etc. (Ok, probably not, but a guy can dream....)

As a Good Sir said above, how much of a bunch of whiners have we become?

Studio and live are perfectly complementary. There's no definitive in this precise case.
A guy ot there made a compilation with the 3 versions (studio, live, rehearsal) and it proves the strength of the composition. It stands the multiple angles test.
Studio and live, or live and studio, They're A-side and B-side, you pick your favorite.
But to deny this is more than a demo (then that makes "Forever In My Life" what?) than something that could have landed on a double PR , that it is one of his top vocal deliveries and sparse arrangements... The intro and outro alone make for it.
Really, give it some spins.

Curiously, I always found EI '83 live over the top.
Now that I have the studio craft, I'm lovin' the live take way more.
This song is supposed to be over the top, and "Condition Of The Heart" is a sophisticated evolution of Prince at his most vocally unabashed, and he's incredible.
The people not in the know do not realize he's one of the best singers ever, female and male combined.

Man, he was 25.
When you think Prince could not astonish you more,
he shows you a secret entry in his journal.
That surprised everyone.
I'm glad to see praises from hardcore fans.
What a happy sad month.

The PR box
we all dream of
will probably be around 2024.

Please let's stop whining, ad hominem, urbis and fucking orbis ;
We gotta lotta butter 2 go.
I'd say, what a smooth entrance to 7 years of harsh, cruel, unmerciful wait
(Lovesexy Deluxe, SOTT Deluxe, Around The World In A Day Deluxe) for "Purple Rain - The Complete Sessions - Vol I".
Ah la la, 2 B a Prince fan...

[Edited 4/28/17 13:27pm]

embmmusic said:

Se7en said:

Is there such a thing as remastering video tape (VHS)? I didn't think there was, at least not the extent of transferring it to HD/Blu-Ray.

They wouldn't be remastering the VHS, it was shot on film.

not very likely. It was broadcast live was it not? It sure looked like video to me... it can be (if they have the original tapes and put some $$$ in it) made to look somewhat better and even all new "mix" the should have kept all the original tapes. but again that would cost them money.

The second CD of goodies alone makes this collection worth every penny. In spite of the fact that I have plenty of amazing boots, this is soooo much better.

bonatoc said:

deebee said:

Nice to hear the studio version of EI, and it certainly has its charm, but I do hope the live version gets an official release at some point, as it's the definitive version of the song and one of his most sublime moments. I can see why they opted for this, to dangle something new and shiny before expectant fans, but I kinda think it should have been the live version that was included on this set.

Perhaps Warners are holding back the First Avenue concert for a proper release at a future date - DVD and CD; versions with and without overdubs, etc. (Ok, probably not, but a guy can dream....)

As a Good Sir said above, how much of a bunch of whiners have we become?

Studio and live are perfectly complementary. There's no definitive in this precise case.
A guy ot there made a compilation with the 3 versions (studio, live, rehearsal) and it proves the strength of the composition. It stands the multiple angles test.
Studio and live, or live and studio, They're A-side and B-side, you pick your favorite.
But to deny this is more than a demo (then that makes "Forever In My Life" what?) than something that could have landed on a double PR , that it is one of his top vocal deliveries and sparse arrangements... The intro and outro alone make for it.
Really, give it some spins.

Curiously, I always found EI '83 live over the top.
Now that I have the studio craft, I'm lovin' the live take way more.
This song is supposed to be over the top, and "Condition Of The Heart" is a sophisticated evolution of Prince at his most vocally unabashed, and he's incredible.
The people not in the know do not realize he's one of the best singers ever, female and male combined.

Man, he was 25.
When you think Prince could not astonish you more,
he shows you a secret entry in his journal.
That surprised everyone.
I'm glad to see praises from hardcore fans.
What a happy sad month.

The PR box
we all dream of
will probably be around 2024.

Please let's stop whining, ad hominem, urbis and fucking orbis ;
We gotta lotta butter 2 go.
I'd say, what a smooth entrance to 7 years of harsh, cruel, unmerciful wait
(Lovesexy Deluxe, SOTT Deluxe, Around The World In A Day Deluxe) for "Purple Rain - The Complete Sessions - Vol I".
Ah la la, 2 B a Prince fan...

[Edited 4/28/17 13:27pm]

Way more than before? Or way more than the studio version?

I love this studio version. It strikes curious poses, if you know what I mean. Anyway - good to have a studio version we didn't even know existed.

I'm loving EI and really looking forward to the rest of the vault disc. But something just dawned on me this evening. It's nearly two months until this comes out! I'm impatient already.

pre ordered at last. I've waited many years for this moment. I'm an Happy Panda. Yes I live in the US.

[Edited 4/28/17 15:52pm]

TrivialPursuit said: