PennyPurple said:

HerecomethePurpleYoda said:

Prince was deeply hurt inside that during his early drug days he introduced Vanity to the lifestyle that also ended her life early. Vanity's drug habit was started way before 1987 and Nikki Sixx. She ended having more of a uncontrolled substance abuse with crack cocaine that got out of hand. It was too late for her, the damage was already done. During the last two months since Vanity died, Prince was severly deeply affected not just Vanity's death, but also from introducing her to the drug that ultimately took her life.

Thank you Yoda, for confirming that and the fact that this has been an ongoing problem since the 80's. I know you are close to the situation and this must be hard for you too.

Really because numerous people have said that it was Vanity and Morris who were the coke heads.

Many people back then found them both to be quite obnoxious. This is mentioned in many of the books that have come out over the years. So now because some random person gets on Prince.org and turns the story around that Prince was the coke head that lead Vanity down the wrong road.

rogifan said:

precioux said:

Correct!!!!

And we also don't know for certain that he had some long term opioid addiction that caused him to become sick yet people seem to be making that assumption too.

There are plenty "possibilities" out there, which is what I stated. I also asked a question of "COULD his ailing physical demeanor be caused from years of opiod/act ingesting/possible abuse?" Was Prince in perfect health in the few months before his death, I personally do not think so. There was SOMETHING going on, and if anyone can't see that in the pictures that have been posted here and on the internet, then they are BLIND!

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Really because numerous people have said that it was Vanity and Morris who were the coke heads.

Many people back then found them both to be quite obnoxious. This is mentioned in many of the books that have come out over the years. So now because some random person gets on Prince.org and turns the story around that Prince was the coke head that lead Vanity down the wrong road. We should believe it.

See here for the comments Alan Leeds made about Vanity in DMSR

http://prince.org/msg/7/396642

Also the comments in DMSR about the whole crew on PR being on drugs and Prince not knowing until the end of the tour and firing everybody. How about Wendy saying he got nausea at the smell of smoke? I would think it would be hard to hit the crack pipe smoke was a issue.

It is Thursday as we have coke I guess tommorow it will weed and meth.

laurarichardson said:

PennyPurple said:

Thank you Yoda, for confirming that and the fact that this has been an ongoing problem since the 80's. I know you are close to the situation and this must be hard for you too.

laurarichardson said:

precioux said:

The problem with you referencing yourself as a "messenger" is the FACT that not all of your "facts" are such...


You're a piece of work! WHERE did I state that I did not believe Prince was going through withdrawls?? As A MATTER OF FACT....I DO believe he had an underlying illness, possibly the havoc wreaked on his system from POSSIBLE years of opiod/acetomenaphin abuse ate up his system and that's what caused his ailing health?

Like I said, a sore throat is NOT a common withdrawl symptom, period, end of story. You CONSTANTLY reach to fit your narrative. I'm not discounting anything...what I am NOT doing is MAKING SHIT UP!


common withdrawl symptoms:

*diarrhea
*abdominal cramping
*goose bumps/chills
*nausea & vomiting
*dialated pupils/blurry vision
*rapid heartbeat
*runny nose

no where does it state (if you can find it as a "stand alone" symptom, BE MY GUEST)that a sore throat *by itself* is a COMMON withdrawl symptom


and my guess is that you ignore the rather obvious that "herecomesthepurpleyoda" is/was directly affiliated with Prince/Prince's family....I'm pretty sure his statements are the most accurate, NOT your suppositions and speculations.smdh.....give it a rest already

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A sore throat is a common problem of vomiting which is a common problem of withdrawals. Turn on your thinking cap. I never said a sore throat was a stand alone problem of withdrawals. I made the mistake of thinking somepeople could figure this out.

I have only repeated what was in the search warrant ( he was going thru withdrawals)

I am sorry you have some sort of problem with facts.

One minute on this board he is a drug addict who could not have been suffering from long term use of opiads ( which I mentioned a year ago he could have had organ damage ) now we find out he was going thru withdrawals and let's question if he really had the sympoms of withdrawals

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...you are taking the words I posted in reply #68 , then tacking on your "common problem of withdrawls" (as fact ),and here again, you are taking my words and using them as your own...are you a parrot???

precioux said:

rogifan said:

precioux said: And we also don't know for certain that he had some long term opioid addiction that caused him to become sick yet people seem to be making that assumption too.

There are plenty "possibilities" out there, which is what I stated. I also asked a question of "COULD his ailing physical demeanor be caused from years of opiod/act ingesting/possible abuse?" Was Prince in perfect health in the few months before his death, I personally do not think so. There was SOMETHING going on, and if anyone can't see that in the pictures that have been posted here and on the internet, then thay are BLIND!

This questions was posed by many people on this board going back last year. Even people who were doctors and nurses posted stuff only to get shouted down.

I even posted the old post about Hep C and the blind item about Prince having sephis.

laurarichardson said:

PennyPurple said:

Thank you Yoda, for confirming that and the fact that this has been an ongoing problem since the 80's. I know you are close to the situation and this must be hard for you too.

Really because numerous people have said that it was Vanity and Morris who were the coke heads.

Many people back then found them both to be quite obnoxious. This is mentioned in many of the books that have come out over the years. So now because some random person gets on Prince.org and turns the story around that Prince was the coke head that lead Vanity down the wrong road.

Laura, I'm surprised that as long as you've been on the Org that you don't know who certain people are. I guess if Yoda was able to put their sig line back, maybe it would give you a hint, but then again, maybe not.... Maybe you should start listening with your eyes.

precioux said:

laurarichardson said:

A sore throat is a common problem of vomiting which is a common problem of withdrawals. Turn on your thinking cap. I never said a sore throat was a stand alone problem of withdrawals. I made the mistake of thinking somepeople could figure this out.

I have only repeated what was in the search warrant ( he was going thru withdrawals)

I am sorry you have some sort of problem with facts.

One minute on this board he is a drug addict who could not have been suffering from long term use of opiads ( which I mentioned a year ago he could have had organ damage ) now we find out he was going thru withdrawals and let's question if he really had the sympoms of withdrawals

[Edited 4/27/17 13:01pm]

...you are taking the words I posted in reply #68 , then tacking on your "common problem of withdrawls" (as fact ),and here again, you are taking my words and using them as your own...are you a parrot???

I did not copy anything what the fuck are you talking about? Vomiting is a common problem of withdrawals and vomiting will f-up your throat. Really nothing more to it then that.

I have stomach problems and no plenty about this topic. If you constantly vomit you can do serious damage to your throat. I sometimes think that you have some idea that you are the only one that can actually read or know about anything. You need to knock it off.

laurarichardson said:

PennyPurple said:

Thank you Yoda, for confirming that and the fact that this has been an ongoing problem since the 80's. I know you are close to the situation and this must be hard for you too.

Really because numerous people have said that it was Vanity and Morris who were the coke heads.

Many people back then found them both to be quite obnoxious. This is mentioned in many of the books that have come out over the years. So now because some random person gets on Prince.org and turns the story around that Prince was the coke head that lead Vanity down the wrong road.

what has also been mentioned in "books over the years", is that Prince was on "Percodan" around the LG (00's)and that this was the reason for him being able to pull all nighters as well as his mood swings at the time. There are direct quotes on pg. 241 Hahn's "The Rise and Fall of Prince".

PennyPurple said:

laurarichardson said:

Really because numerous people have said that it was Vanity and Morris who were the coke heads.

Many people back then found them both to be quite obnoxious. This is mentioned in many of the books that have come out over the years. So now because some random person gets on Prince.org and turns the story around that Prince was the coke head that lead Vanity down the wrong road.

Laura, I'm surprised that as long as you've been on the Org that you don't know who certain people are. I guess if Yoda was able to put their sig line back, maybe it would give you a hint, but then again, maybe not.... Maybe you should start listening with your eyes.

Maybe I do not give a care who they are. I can tell you what many associates have said about Vanity over the years and they had no problem saying it. Alan Leeds said she was street and he put Morris out on front street as a coke head.

He had many issues with Prince as a lot of associates but most even now are very adament that he was not into drugs back then. They have no reason to continue to lie as estates cannot sue for defamation. Did Prince get her into the stupid and degrading sister wife shit ? Yes I believe he did and Vanity came from a very abusive homelife so I am sure she brought her drug problems and mental issues with her and got mixed up with the wrong man.

precioux said:

laurarichardson said:

Really because numerous people have said that it was Vanity and Morris who were the coke heads.

Many people back then found them both to be quite obnoxious. This is mentioned in many of the books that have come out over the years. So now because some random person gets on Prince.org and turns the story around that Prince was the coke head that lead Vanity down the wrong road.

what has also been mentioned in "books over the years", is that Prince was on "Percodan" around the LG (00's)and that this was the reason for him being able to pull all nighters as well as his mood swings at the time. There are direct quotes on pg. 241 Hahn's "The Rise and Fall of Prince".

I would go with Per Nielsen many people interviewed for Hahn's first book claim to have been misquoted and Hann was on Facebook for the second one asking fans questions.

He was pulling all nighters when he was a teen was on drugs then per Chris Moon

laurarichardson said:

PennyPurple said:

Laura, I'm surprised that as long as you've been on the Org that you don't know who certain people are. I guess if Yoda was able to put their sig line back, maybe it would give you a hint, but then again, maybe not.... Maybe you should start listening with your eyes.

Maybe I do not give a care who they are. I can tell you what many associates have said about Vanity over the years and they had no problem saying it. Alan Leeds said she was street and he put Morris out on front street as a coke head.

He had many issues with Prince as a lot of associates but most even now are very adament that he was not into drugs back then. They have no reason to continue to lie as estates cannot sue for defamation. Did Prince get her into the stupid and degrading sister wife shit ? Yes I believe he did and Vanity came from a very abusive homelife so I am sure she brought her drug problems and mental issues with her and got mixed up with the wrong man.

As you should know by now the associates don't always tell the truth. I put more stock in what THE family says......

laurarichardson said:

precioux said:

...you are taking the words I posted in reply #68 , then tacking on your "common problem of withdrawls" (as fact ),and here again, you are taking my words and using them as your own...are you a parrot???

I did not copy anything what the fuck are you talking about? Vomiting is a common problem of withdrawals and vomiting will f-up your throat. Really nothing more to it then that.

I have stomach problems and no plenty about this topic. If you constantly vomit you can do serious damage to your throat. I sometimes think that you have some idea that you are the only one that can actually read or know about anything. You need to knock it off.

now, you're backpedaling once again to the comment I posted stating that you constantly reach. You stated "sore throat" is a symptom of withdrawls, period, end of story...I simply corrected you when I stated "sure, if you have digestive issuses that in turn cause vomiting, which in turn causes sore throats..."which is REACHING on your part as usual.

laurarichardson said:

precioux said:

what has also been mentioned in "books over the years", is that Prince was on "Percodan" around the LG (00's)and that this was the reason for him being able to pull all nighters as well as his mood swings at the time. There are direct quotes on pg. 241 Hahn's "The Rise and Fall of Prince".

I would go with Per Nielsen many people interviewed for Hahn's first book claim to have been misquoted and Hann was on Facebook for the second one asking fans questions.

He was pulling all nighters when he was a teen was on drugs then per Chris Moon

oh, with other books...it's called "misquoting" on your part

laurarichardson said:

precioux said:

There are plenty "possibilities" out there, which is what I stated. I also asked a question of "COULD his ailing physical demeanor be caused from years of opiod/act ingesting/possible abuse?" Was Prince in perfect health in the few months before his death, I personally do not think so. There was SOMETHING going on, and if anyone can't see that in the pictures that have been posted here and on the internet, then thay are BLIND!

This questions was posed by many people on this board going back last year. Even people who were doctors and nurses posted stuff only to get shouted down.

I even posted the old post about Hep C and the blind item about Prince having sephis.

Well, honestly...his color was really yellow in the pick at the game. Which would POSSIBLY be something going wrong with the liver. IF it is true about long term opiod/act ..I could see liver damage as a possibility. The blind item stated he had AIDS...all speculation...but something WAS WRONG

So basically people are going to say whomever tells them what they want to hear (or what they believe) is telling the truth and anyone else isn't.

precioux said:

I don't doubt something was wrong with his health. But many here seem to be putting it down to years of opioid abuse as if it's fact. All I'm saying is we don't know. Why is it so hard for people to admit we don't know rather than making assumptions (whether it's long term opioid abuse, illness or something else)?

PennyPurple said:

---The family that he took care of but did not spend a lot of time with because they were not supportive. There is a interview he did around the Dirty Mind period were he put s lot of stuff out there about his family. The behavior of Sharon now along with her behavior when there Dad died should tell you something. I would take more stock on what people like Susan Rogers had to say about the 80s. Susan said she stayed up with him for 3 days working and she has said she never saw him use drugs. Is it so hard to believe that he had some monster insommia problem and probably a rack of other issues we do not know about.

rogifan said:

Because it is fun for some people to think he was superman or that he was a ball of illness and dope use.

precioux said:

--The blind item I saw said he had been in the hospital with Sephis and it was revelved to be him. I never saw the AIDS blind item revelved and we now know no non of the drugs prescribed to Prince by Dr. S were for AIDS/HIV.

Thank u PennyPurple! It wasn't easy for us to lose a dear friend close to us and our brother a couple months later.

:hug:

PennyPurple said:

precioux said:

You need to find a hobby. I am only going to discuss this with you one more time on what planet would you not be able to figure out that if a person is being treated for withdrawals that they are going to vomit and that vomiting would cause a sore thoat therefore sore thoarts are a by product of excessive vomiting which is sythomp of withdrawals. You are so caught up with trying to catch me on the wrong that you cannot see the big picture.

Mayte is that you? No more money is coming boo.

HerecomethePurpleYoda said:

Wrong answer, puddinhead

laurarichardson said:

laurarichardson said:

I think purplepenny is trying to suggest that Yoda is a member of the Nelson family

rogifan said:

So basically people are going to say whomever tells them what they want to hear (or what they believe) is telling the truth and anyone else isn't.

Just like with politics...

Everything we believe is true and everything we don't is "fake news".

precioux said:

It was a question. Directed at Queen chicken and I guess you are now her press agent what is going to be your cut of the book profits?

paulludvig said:

Really because if you read their post they do not even know about the concert for the deaf in DC back in 1984 must have been one of those times when they were not being supportive.
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djThunderfunk said:

Unless of course people are making fake news.

HerecomethePurpleYoda said:

Thank u PennyPurple! It wasn't easy for us to lose a dear friend close to us and our brother a couple months later.

precioux said:

I don't recall anyone saying that Per misquoted them. I do not remember Per being in a lawsuit with Prince. I do not recall Per coming on this board a few days after Prince's death to advertise his book. We also do not have a whole horde of people recently and in the past who will actually say Prince was a recreational drug user not one. They cannot be sued so nothing will happen if they say so. We have family members who sued him, talked trash about him to the media, and a sister who has his crooked ex-manager representing her Jazz carreer. Everything I have stated is true.