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Thread started 04/25/17 3:18pm

donnyenglish

The Invisible Deeds

Everything Prince did was intentional and he was always many steps ahead of everyone else. The only thing that is clear to me after his passing is that this tangled web that he left after his passing was intentional. The Estate, streaming services, record companies, Graceland Holdings, attorneys, past band members, associates, etc. all face signficant hurdles to profit from his music. He left those folks with invisible deeds. The result of the chaos and competing interests for his assets, that all have multiple and conflicting encumbrances, is that his vault and his home would be eventually given to his fans. That is his will. People are learning that Prince cannot be played because when you think you are playing Prince you play yourself. My man. Still running things from heaven.

[Edited 4/25/17 16:30pm]

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Reply #1 posted 04/25/17 4:14pm

zenarose

donnyenglish said:

Everything Prince did was intentional and he was always many steps ahead of everyone else. The only thing that is clear to me after his passing is that this tangled web that he left after his passing was intentional. The Estate, streaming services, record companies, Graceland Holdings, attorneys, past band members, associates, etc. all face signficant hurdles to profit from his music. He left those folks with invisible deeds. The result of the chaos and competing interests for his assets, that all have multiple and conflicting encumbrances, is that his vault and his home would be eventually given to his fans. People are learning that Prince cannot be played because when you think you are playing Prince you play yourself. My man. Still running things from heaven.



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Reply #2 posted 04/25/17 4:24pm

purplepoppy

Ha, maybe like my grandfather who did not have my grandmother in his will (after 63 years!) until my aunt noticed it and made him add her shortly before he died. They were not rich at all and it would have been devastating for my grandmother, leaving her with nothing. In his case he did it because he was really really cheap and stingy and couldn't bear the thought of someone else having "his" money, lol.

Brand new boogie without the hero.
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Reply #3 posted 04/25/17 4:24pm

Number23

The sooner Apple put out a doll with a working vagina the sooner we'll be free of absurd inanity like this.
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Reply #4 posted 04/25/17 4:54pm

laurarichardso
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donnyenglish said:

Everything Prince did was intentional and he was always many steps ahead of everyone else. The only thing that is clear to me after his passing is that this tangled web that he left after his passing was intentional. The Estate, streaming services, record companies, Graceland Holdings, attorneys, past band members, associates, etc. all face signficant hurdles to profit from his music. He left those folks with invisible deeds. The result of the chaos and competing interests for his assets, that all have multiple and conflicting encumbrances, is that his vault and his home would be eventually given to his fans. That is his will. People are learning that Prince cannot be played because when you think you are playing Prince you play yourself. My man. Still running things from heaven.

[Edited 4/25/17 16:30pm]


--If every album in the WB deal has different terms with the soundtracks having license deals until enternity Prince did get the last laugh. No court or greedy ass attorney is going to change anything.
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Reply #5 posted 04/25/17 6:11pm

PeteSilas

Number23 said:

The sooner Apple put out a doll with a working vagina the sooner we'll be free of absurd inanity like this.

applonia is planning on that? Put me on the waiting list.

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Reply #6 posted 04/25/17 6:12pm

PeteSilas

donnyenglish said:

Everything Prince did was intentional and he was always many steps ahead of everyone else. The only thing that is clear to me after his passing is that this tangled web that he left after his passing was intentional. The Estate, streaming services, record companies, Graceland Holdings, attorneys, past band members, associates, etc. all face signficant hurdles to profit from his music. He left those folks with invisible deeds. The result of the chaos and competing interests for his assets, that all have multiple and conflicting encumbrances, is that his vault and his home would be eventually given to his fans. That is his will. People are learning that Prince cannot be played because when you think you are playing Prince you play yourself. My man. Still running things from heaven.

[Edited 4/25/17 16:30pm]

that's kinda the way i see it, he didn't have kids, he probably figured he worked himself to death, whoever wants it has to work for it too. Or they can fight over it forever.

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Reply #7 posted 04/25/17 6:18pm

kingricefan

I always hoped that he would have in his will a statement that said that everything in the Vault would be released for free and given away to the fans. But, no will.........

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Reply #8 posted 04/25/17 6:18pm

luvgirl

donnyenglish said:

Everything Prince did was intentional and he was always many steps ahead of everyone else. The only thing that is clear to me after his passing is that this tangled web that he left after his passing was intentional. The Estate, streaming services, record companies, Graceland Holdings, attorneys, past band members, associates, etc. all face signficant hurdles to profit from his music. He left those folks with invisible deeds. The result of the chaos and competing interests for his assets, that all have multiple and conflicting encumbrances, is that his vault and his home would be eventually given to his fans. That is his will. People are learning that Prince cannot be played because when you think you are playing Prince you play yourself. My man. Still running things from heaven.

[Edited 4/25/17 16:30pm]



Good points. I believe he simply didn't have anyone that he wanted to leave anything to, so he didn't...
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Reply #9 posted 04/25/17 6:31pm

TwiliteKid

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donnyenglish said:

Everything Prince did was intentional and he was always many steps ahead of everyone else. The only thing that is clear to me after his passing is that this tangled web that he left after his passing was intentional. The Estate, streaming services, record companies, Graceland Holdings, attorneys, past band members, associates, etc. all face signficant hurdles to profit from his music. He left those folks with invisible deeds. The result of the chaos and competing interests for his assets, that all have multiple and conflicting encumbrances, is that his vault and his home would be eventually given to his fans. That is his will. People are learning that Prince cannot be played because when you think you are playing Prince you play yourself. My man. Still running things from heaven.

[Edited 4/25/17 16:30pm]



How many mental hoops do you need to jump through to convince yourself of nonsense like this?
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Reply #10 posted 04/25/17 6:34pm

LBrent

laurarichardson said:

donnyenglish said:

Everything Prince did was intentional and he was always many steps ahead of everyone else. The only thing that is clear to me after his passing is that this tangled web that he left after his passing was intentional. The Estate, streaming services, record companies, Graceland Holdings, attorneys, past band members, associates, etc. all face signficant hurdles to profit from his music. He left those folks with invisible deeds. The result of the chaos and competing interests for his assets, that all have multiple and conflicting encumbrances, is that his vault and his home would be eventually given to his fans. That is his will. People are learning that Prince cannot be played because when you think you are playing Prince you play yourself. My man. Still running things from heaven.

[Edited 4/25/17 16:30pm]

--If every album in the WB deal has different terms with the soundtracks having license deals until enternity Prince did get the last laugh. No court or greedy ass attorney is going to change anything.


PeteSilas said:

donnyenglish said:

Everything Prince did was intentional and he was always many steps ahead of everyone else. The only thing that is clear to me after his passing is that this tangled web that he left after his passing was intentional. The Estate, streaming services, record companies, Graceland Holdings, attorneys, past band members, associates, etc. all face signficant hurdles to profit from his music. He left those folks with invisible deeds. The result of the chaos and competing interests for his assets, that all have multiple and conflicting encumbrances, is that his vault and his home would be eventually given to his fans. That is his will. People are learning that Prince cannot be played because when you think you are playing Prince you play yourself. My man. Still running things from heaven.

[Edited 4/25/17 16:30pm]

that's kinda the way i see it, he didn't have kids, he probably figured he worked himself to death, whoever wants it has to work for it too. Or they can fight over it forever.

You all do make good points and it definitely is the ultimate FU to WB.

lol

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Reply #11 posted 04/25/17 6:35pm

jaawwnn

Everything Prince did was intentional nod

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Reply #12 posted 04/25/17 6:39pm

luvsexy4all

even if he had left a will ...chances r some lawyer or family member wouldve changed it to tHEIR benefit......THIS WAY..NO ONE CAN

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Reply #13 posted 04/25/17 7:06pm

oliviacamron

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Perhaps
I asked Prince what he was planning to do. He told me , I'm going to look for the ladder. I asked him what that meant. All he said was, sometimes it snows in April. - book D.M.S.R.
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Reply #14 posted 04/25/17 10:01pm

fourletterword
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I think Prince was dead serious when he said he was done with contracts. I wouldn't be surprised if Prince viewed a will or perhaps a trust agreement (typically pushed on the wealthy by attorneys who want to charge exorbitant costs) as a CONTRACT of some kind.

The lack of a spouse, dependent children etc. makes clear that their were no specific persons he needed to "protect".

The ultimate preservation of Paisley and its artifacts appears, in retrospect, to have been most prioritized, certainly over his recorded legacy (previously released or vault).

I also have no doubt that his genuine distrust of labels (rightly) never truly ceased and would have banked on the reissue/repackage cycle would persist in the manner it has say, for example, the John lennon solo catalog.

Statements made in recent interviews could have been interpreted to suggest that some type of plans were made for the eventual release of vault material in the future; however, by the same token, he may have felt that most of the hardcore fans would have already come across much of the best early vault material or that it would eventually see its way to future release.
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Reply #15 posted 04/26/17 2:40am

laurarichardso
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fourletterwords said:

I think Prince was dead serious when he said he was done with contracts. I wouldn't be surprised if Prince viewed a will or perhaps a trust agreement (typically pushed on the wealthy by attorneys who want to charge exorbitant costs) as a CONTRACT of some kind.

The lack of a spouse, dependent children etc. makes clear that their were no specific persons he needed to "protect".

The ultimate preservation of Paisley and its artifacts appears, in retrospect, to have been most prioritized, certainly over his recorded legacy (previously released or vault).

I also have no doubt that his genuine distrust of labels (rightly) never truly ceased and would have banked on the reissue/repackage cycle would persist in the manner it has say, for example, the John lennon solo catalog.

Statements made in recent interviews could have been interpreted to suggest that some type of plans were made for the eventual release of vault material in the future; however, by the same token, he may have felt that most of the hardcore fans would have already come across much of the best early vault material or that it would eventually see its way to future release.

--Once again if media reports are accurate the deal he signed with WB gives licensing rights to WB forever for the soundtracks and some albums internationaly eternity. Speculation that the same deal for vault material for the WB years as well. If all of this true he is going to get his way. I don't think people understand that wills can be contested. We have seen half his siblings agree to work with a crook do trust me if he he had a will all hell would have broke lose.
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Reply #16 posted 04/26/17 11:31am

fourletterword
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laurarichardson said:

fourletterwords said:

I think Prince was dead serious when he said he was done with contracts. I wouldn't be surprised if Prince viewed a will or perhaps a trust agreement (typically pushed on the wealthy by attorneys who want to charge exorbitant costs) as a CONTRACT of some kind.

The lack of a spouse, dependent children etc. makes clear that their were no specific persons he needed to "protect".

The ultimate preservation of Paisley and its artifacts appears, in retrospect, to have been most prioritized, certainly over his recorded legacy (previously released or vault).

I also have no doubt that his genuine distrust of labels (rightly) never truly ceased and would have banked on the reissue/repackage cycle would persist in the manner it has say, for example, the John lennon solo catalog.

Statements made in recent interviews could have been interpreted to suggest that some type of plans were made for the eventual release of vault material in the future; however, by the same token, he may have felt that most of the hardcore fans would have already come across much of the best early vault material or that it would eventually see its way to future release.

--Once again if media reports are accurate the deal he signed with WB gives licensing rights to WB forever for the soundtracks and some albums internationaly eternity. Speculation that the same deal for vault material for the WB years as well. If all of this true he is going to get his way. I don't think people understand that wills can be contested. We have seen half his siblings agree to work with a crook do trust me if he he had a will all hell would have broke lose.



Agree - especially since there is enough evidence to show painkillers were being used for whatever reason. Attorneys for potential heirs CERTAINLY would have argued that there was 1) undue influence used to coerce changes to the will or 2) he was not "compis mentus" to make decisions/change bequests etc...

In all probability, any will or estate planning that allegedly existed was destroyed after divorce no. 2.
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