1Sasha said:

Agreed.

1Sasha said:

Agreed.

I saw on Charles Smith's Facebook is linked to his wife's page and she did say that Charles has gone to the Carver County Sheriff office with his concerns. So at least one family member is concerned.

And he doesn't stand to inherit any money, so it isn't apparently a self-serving gesture. I keep going back to the clothing ... the timeline ... how of all the bottles he took a pill or pills out of the one laced with Fentanyl.

1Sasha said:

And he doesn't stand to inherit any money, so it isn't apparently a self-serving gesture. I keep going back to the clothing ... the timeline ... how of all the bottles he took a pill or pills out of the one laced with Fentanyl.

I know seems odd to me that he had pain pills that Kirk got from the doctor yet he took this pill or pills that had fentanyl in it. No way I believe he got pillls off the internet or went out on some street corner himself and picked them up.

I think he had been taking the Watson's for a while even back when they were still being manufactured was trying to ween himself as who would want to be sick from withdrawals unless they really wanted to get off of the pills or had to for other health reasons.

Somewhere he got a bad batch which started to make him ill.

He got those Watson's from someone he knew and someone he trusted. Now even Charles said in his interview on the local Fox station that it could have been an accident but someone still needs to be held accountable.

laurarichardson said:

1Sasha said:

And he doesn't stand to inherit any money, so it isn't apparently a self-serving gesture. I keep going back to the clothing ... the timeline ... how of all the bottles he took a pill or pills out of the one laced with Fentanyl.

I know seems odd to me that he had pain pills that Kirk got from the doctor yet he took this pill or pills that had fentanyl in it. No way I believe he got pillls off the internet or went out on some street corner himself and picked them up.

I think he had been taking the Watson's for a while even back when they were still being manufactured was trying to ween himself as who would want to be sick from withdrawals unless they really wanted to get off of the pills or had to for other health reasons.

Somewhere he got a bad batch which started to make him ill.

He got those Watson's from someone he knew and someone he trusted. Now even Charles said in his interview on the local Fox station that it could have been an accident but someone still needs to be held accountable.

I don't think he acquired the pills himself, but he had someone acquire them for him....which was probably you know who...

.

I agree someone does need to be held accountable, whether it is Dr. S or K or both. Dr. S for writing the script to K to give Prince (although Dr. S now says he didn't) to Kirk giving his prescription to P. Someone lied on those warrants that is pretty obvious. And I can't believe that K was only interviewed 1 time on the day this all happened, and hasn't been inteviewed since.

PennyPurple said:

laurarichardson said:

I know seems odd to me that he had pain pills that Kirk got from the doctor yet he took this pill or pills that had fentanyl in it. No way I believe he got pillls off the internet or went out on some street corner himself and picked them up.

I think he had been taking the Watson's for a while even back when they were still being manufactured was trying to ween himself as who would want to be sick from withdrawals unless they really wanted to get off of the pills or had to for other health reasons.

Somewhere he got a bad batch which started to make him ill.

He got those Watson's from someone he knew and someone he trusted. Now even Charles said in his interview on the local Fox station that it could have been an accident but someone still needs to be held accountable.

I don't think he acquired the pills himself, but he had someone acquire them for him....which was probably you know who...

.

I agree someone does need to be held accountable, whether it is Dr. S or K or both. Dr. S for writing the script to K to give Prince (although Dr. S now says he didn't) to Kirk giving his prescription to P. Someone lied on those warrants that is pretty obvious. And I can't believe that K was only interviewed 1 time on the day this all happened, and hasn't been inteviewed since.

Pretty sure KJ has not been interviewed except 1 time because 1) He was at the scene and could not avoid being questioned 2) He lawyered up real quick like and by law, you don't have to answer any questions after that point. It's his right. Although, I'm def NOT team KJ and he needs to get his grimey azz on up outta PP!!!!

(If I'm wrog on this, please state the official protocol ISLIJAG)

[Edited 5/4/17 8:51am]

PennyPurple said:

I think soon someone will talk and start voicing their concerns on social media. Spples seems ready to burst. She now posted a pic of Prince and the lyrics to Old Friends 4Sale...

MMJas said:

1Sasha said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

1Sasha said:

And he doesn't stand to inherit any money, so it isn't apparently a self-serving gesture. I keep going back to the clothing ... the timeline ... how of all the bottles he took a pill or pills out of the one laced with Fentanyl.

Agree..I still think someone knowingly put a few of those fake pills for him to take.

That is really the key. Was this an accident or was it done on purpose ? Because he had tour plans out into the fall, was writing an autobiograhy and the only change in his plans appears to may have been a pit stop to an outpatient rehab which would still allowed to get some work done.

Just not the behavior of someone who wants to die.

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

MMJas said:

I think soon someone will talk and start voicing their concerns on social media. Spples seems ready to burst. She now posted a pic of Prince and the lyrics to Old Friends 4Sale...

interesting...do you have a link I clicked the old one and it still shows the purple face/ body image [Edited 5/4/17 9:37am]

https://www.instagram.com/p/BTpqF-YhmqL/?taken-by=apollonia_kotero

MMJas said:

laurarichardson said:

I have a relative who lived in the Chanhassen area until June of last year. It was later in May, I think, when she said the local talk was that Prince's death wasn't an accident - the consensus in her group was that he had taken his own life. Trust me: these people were not connected to the investigation, but either through people talking or whatever they knew a lot more that first week than had been in the media. I cannot reconcile in my own mind that it was an accidental overdose. Not the way he was dressed, or where he was found, or what that whole last week had been like.

anangellooksdown said:

laurarichardson said:

That is really the key. Was this an accident or was it done on purpose ? Because he had tour plans out into the fall, was writing an autobiograhy and the only change in his plans appears to may have been a pit stop to an outpatient rehab which would still allowed to get some work done.

Just not the behavior of someone who wants to die.

I've been wondering something lately... Prince made calls to people that last weekend. Many were return calls maybe, but maybe he was saying goodbye. Maybe his situation was worsening and he couldn't see the need to face a whole other hard chapter of his life...detox, rehab, possible privacy breaches, and still have physical pain... And if he wasn't all that happy emotionally either or had no kids to live for, could that have added to this possible feeling I'm describing? Or maybe he was in so much pain he just couldn't take it anymore. OR, maybe he just trusted God and let go, unafraid, not wanting to burden anyone. If he really did tell Tyka a few years prior that he had done everything he had come here to do, maybe he took a pill he knew had almost just cost him his life a week beforehand. Why else would he do that? He wasn't stupid. Did he know the pills had almost killed him after Atlanta? I also remember seeing a video clip of someone who cared about him whom he had told everything was ok that prior weekend, looking very angry after his death. Now these are just thoughts, and I gotta get them out there, even though they hurt to say. And I don't want to hurt anyone by writing them. And the may be totally wrong. After all, my keyboard just froze as I was typing.... But at this point, I just want to know what happened. Now I know it's none of my business and he was a private man, but I love him too and just wish I knew what happened.

So I guess you are saying that this was a sucide but not planned. Like I will just keep taking what might be tainted pills and if I get one that takes me out so be it?

Because I keep thinking if he was planning to kill himself he would just laid down in his finest gear and he would have at least drawn up a will to make more definite plans for the music. It appears had plans for Paisley that seem to be actually working out.

He had a whole week to get the music in order and I know he had to have known the LLC was not going to be enough to insure his wishes were going to be met. Those songs were like his children.

anangellooksdown said:

The other possibility is that the ST I be,I've, reported that he had been very agitated which is common when you're trying to self-detox. When I read that last year, it felt very right and true to me. Perhaps that cayaed or added to the theory I wrote about above. I'm not saying it's what I believe at this point, but in my mind these possibilities sort of came together last night. If true, maybe the family and others are protecting it, thinking it would bring shame to him. It wouldn't. It would bring compassion. If true, the truth is always the best way. ❤️ The main thing that makes me think against this idea is that Prince was so religious that I feel he would have to be either very "out of it" or extremely agitated, or in a lot of serious, long term pain for this all to be the case. Any of those or all, would be completely understandable.

That is the thing about killing yourself and according to Judith he told her he fought hard to get back in his body. Why did he not just give up in Moline? Or did someone want him to give up.

laurarichardson said:

laurarichardson said:

1Sasha said:

anangellooksdown said:

laurarichardson said:

So I guess you are saying that this was a sucide but not planned. Like I will just keep taking what might be tainted pills and if I get one that takes me out so be it?

Because I keep thinking if he was planning to kill himself he would just laid down in his finest gear and he would have at least drawn up a will to make more definite plans for the music. It appears had plans for Paisley that seem to be actually working out.

He had a whole week to get the music in order and I know he had to have known the LLC was not going to be enough to insure his wishes were going to be met. Those songs were like his children.

Laura you make some good points. Especially the one I bolded stands out to me. I don't know how much he truly would've cared to plan about the music, heck, he might've figured he'd let us all work it out. But the clothing part doesn't fit. Unless it was agitation and pain that were pre-cursors to taking the pill(s), and that still leaves the question, why take something that almost just killed him the prior week. Maybe I'm back to my original thoughts all these months which are that he just became desperate due to pain and/or self-detox. The combination of both together would be horrible.

Detox/pain could make anyone want to kill themselves and we do not know how much joint pain he had no pills could have meant pain he would not have been able to manage.

Maybe he was hurting a just grabbed whatever pills he saw and just picked the wrong one.

laurarichardson said:

MMJas said:

I think soon someone will talk and start voicing their concerns on social media. Spples seems ready to burst. She now posted a pic of Prince and the lyrics to Old Friends 4Sale...

laurarichardson said:

anangellooksdown said:

The other possibility is that the ST I be,I've, reported that he had been very agitated which is common when you're trying to self-detox. When I read that last year, it felt very right and true to me. Perhaps that cayaed or added to the theory I wrote about above. I'm not saying it's what I believe at this point, but in my mind these possibilities sort of came together last night. If true, maybe the family and others are protecting it, thinking it would bring shame to him. It wouldn't. It would bring compassion. If true, the truth is always the best way. ❤️ The main thing that makes me think against this idea is that Prince was so religious that I feel he would have to be either very "out of it" or extremely agitated, or in a lot of serious, long term pain for this all to be the case. Any of those or all, would be completely understandable.

That is the thing about killing yourself and according to Judith he told her he fought hard to get back in his body. Why did he not just give up in Moline? Or did someone want him to give up.

That's my whole issue with JH, she also said that P had "done everything the Dr. asked him to do" in Moline, which we now know to be untrue as P refused medical treatment at the hospital (?) I'm not bucking what you're saying, rather I'm questioning the validity to JH's statements.

[Edited 5/4/17 14:36pm]

precioux said:

anangellooksdown said: