leadline said:

luvgirl said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

this really should have stayed there....ugh look it even got to #1
I just listened to all the songs and really am liking it...

You should have seen how many of my coworkers came up to me today to let me know Prince had a new album out. Lol. It was pretty cute.

So in Boxill's affidavit describing the process of the songs' creation, he refers to the string of songs I Am/Touch Me/Sunrise Sunset/No One Else as "Man Opera." I'm not clear on whether this title is one Prince used or if it's something Boxill came up with.

Also, while I realize that Boxill himself describes doing a fair amount of rerecording and dropping and adding of new parts after he was no longer working alongside or with Prince's input, I still have to say that very little of this sounds "non-Prince" in the sense that he obviously would have disapproved of what was recorded. I'm not saying he did give Boxill permission to do what he wanted with the tracks, nor am I saying that he would have desired the tracks' release in this form (or in whatever form he last heard them/approved them--since we have no indication he ever got to the "this is going out" phase of their development). But he pretty much did (by both his and Josh's accounts) give that sort of freedom (and more) to Josh Welton for good chunks of two album releases under Prince's name. Maybe he did with Boxill, too.

No matter, either way. I like what I'm hearing, and what I'm hearing is two pretty good Prince works (Deliverance and the other thing, which I guess I'll call "Man Opera" too)--only on my third listen, so how good they really are, I'm not sure. I'm glad to have them. I would, of course, like to have whatever versions Prince last heard and approved, and whatever Prince first recorded, and everything in between. But I'd like that for almost every track in his catalog, and that is never going to happen, so I'll just gladly take what I have here.

Prince's 'Deliverance' EP...g Services.

^Then someone should have written a will.

Prince Estate Don't Even THINK About Releasing New Music ...Producer Loses in Court


Prince's estate is putting the brakes on the planned release of a new album, thanks to a court ruling in its favor ... TMZ has learned.

http://www.tmz.com/2017/0...liverance/

http://prince.org/msg/7/441249

so, there's a lot of fighting going on in court...


HOW SAD IS THIS......

Damn! I have missed it. [Snip - luv4u] Instead of releasing this album Paisley Park is releasing Purple Rain remixes. C'mon. Well if somebody would like to help me getting the Deliverance Album I would of course be very grateful.

Moonbeam said:

Not available in Australia. Seems odd.

I don't know if someone has mentioned this before. Just go to Digital Downloads and pretend you are in the USA ( click on the " I am in the USA" button). I used a .com only email address and it worked just fine. The only thing I was a bit worried about was that it only takes credit card for payment.

Enjoy!

Damn!

purplethunder3121 said:

Damn!

I got the Digital Download about 30 mins ago from the above website. It might still be there even if the Apple ones have been removed.

I hope Ian Boxill gets taken for everything he owns. I downloaded the EP for free. He isn't owed one debt of gratitude-at leaset from me. If he really was serious about sharing the music, he would have released the music without tampering with Prince's original tracks or do the honorable thing and return the master tapes to the Estate. Still will never understand why Prince didn't draft a will to keep vultures from pilfering his music.

bashraka said:

I hope Ian Boxill gets taken for everything he owns. I downloaded the EP for free. He isn't owed one debt of gratitude-at leaset from me. If he really was serious about sharing the music, he would have released the music without tampering with Prince's original tracks or do the honorable thing and return the master tapes to the Estate. Still will never understand why Prince didn't draft a will to keep vultures from pilfering his music.

Possibly because he was not considering dying when he did. The irony of your actions surely aren't lost on you.

Is it just me or can you hear Fripp, Crimson, Queen and a massive amount of Prog coming through this batch of music. It is fascinating...oh, and Bush.

This is nothing but whimsy but it is fucking brilliant.

Sorry - just got to No One Else. And we really now need to start the discussion about quality control on Prince's releases.

bashraka said:

I hope Ian Boxill gets taken for everything he owns. I downloaded the EP for free. He isn't owed one debt of gratitude-at leaset from me. If he really was serious about sharing the music, he would have released the music without tampering with Prince's original tracks or do the honorable thing and return the master tapes to the Estate. Still will never understand why Prince didn't draft a will to keep vultures from pilfering his music.

If you're really convinced of what you are writing, why to partecipate to this crime you are describing, adding crime to crime illegally downloading an illegal release?!?!?

kingricefan said: Who knows how long it will be before we hear any new material from the vault?

I'm gonna say, two months.

Cheater07 said:

Okay, I just read what he did to the songs and cringed. You can finish Prince songs all you want (pretty decent job and all, thanks for your time) but without his approval it's not a Prince song.

Prince is no longer with us, so by your definition, we're never going to get another Prince song, ever. The reality is that all we have left are going to be releases which aren't Prince approved and are finished by other people.

Something I would like would be untouched versions of any releases, how Prince left them. But again, it's unlikely these would have been released by Prince so again, by your definition, they would be unapproved.

But sadly the only way we are ever going to hear his voice or guitar playing on new material again is with the touch of someone else in the mix. Personally I'm all for that and while we get new releses, official or otherwise, Prince lives on in my heart.

Who knows how much Boxill actually tinkered with these tracks, but they still remain uniquely Prince-ly to my ears. It was a delight listening to these songs. Though they sound oddly truncated, it is a great suite of music. Unusual melodies, great guitar playing, and Prince's voice is sublime.

I hope the vault is full of surprises such as this.

TheEnglishGent said:

Prince is no longer with us, so by your definition, we're never going to get another Prince song, ever. The reality is that all we have left are going to be releases which aren't Prince approved and are finished by other people.

Something I would like would be untouched versions of any releases, how Prince left them. But again, it's unlikely these would have been released by Prince so again, by your definition, they would be unapproved.

But sadly the only way we are ever going to hear his voice or guitar playing on new material again is with the touch of someone else in the mix. Personally I'm all for that and while we get new releses, official or otherwise, Prince lives on in my heart.

This...

And I'm just grateful that there's one song (Deliverance) out of the six I can have on consant replay...

Hoping for many, many, many more songs to come...

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

rogifan said:

I can confirm this is no longer available on iTunes or Apple Music. Though earlier today it was #1 on their pre-order chart.

this really should have stayed there....ugh look it even got to #1
I just listened to all the songs and really am liking it...

rogifan said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

this really should have stayed there....ugh look it even got to #1 I just listened to all the songs and really am liking it...

I get why it had to be taken down but just the fact it was #1...I'll bet music from the vault sells better than we expect. And I'll bet when the new Purple Rain deluxe album drops it will hit #1 on the charts.

It was number 1 on pre-orders. What was it up against? That doesn't necessarilly mean it would be anywhere near number 1 on the sales chart.

TheEnglishGent said:

Cheater07 said:

Okay, I just read what he did to the songs and cringed. You can finish Prince songs all you want (pretty decent job and all, thanks for your time) but without his approval it's not a Prince song. He felt he had to remove The Twinz vocals?? He felt he needed to extend I Am (I knew those were looped vocals at the end...or am I wrong?) and No One Else (re-used those Touch Me vocals at the end?). It's, it's.... I don't know... great to get new music, but not this way. These are forever poluted in my mind. I can't even say what's worse...this or not having heard the songs at all.

very fair point but it's like always said about bootlegs i.e. leaked ones are often not finished until he released them & therefore I guess a sketch. That said the feeling I & many got when we first heard the title track was pure joy. Yes it's stolen material BUT bloody hell it was good to hear something new.

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

rogifan said:

I can confirm this is no longer available on iTunes or Apple Music. Though earlier today it was #1 on their pre-order chart.

this really should have stayed there....ugh look it even got to #1 I just listened to all the songs and really am liking it...

dang stupid me. should have downloaded this last night

It's grown on me after several listens. The material is strong.

I have no problem with the guy trying to sell this. I'm more comfortable with the thought of people that have actually worked with Prince on his stuff getting the money than a relative that he barely had contact with.