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Lol, I thought the same thing. Especially from Prince! Trust me, I've made that mistake myself a few times and learned the era of my ways! Never. Never. Disregard a Prince song. ![]() | |
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luvgirl said: PurpleDiamonds1 said: ![]() I just listened to all the songs and really am liking it... You should have seen how many of my coworkers came up to me today to let me know Prince had a new album out. Lol. It was pretty cute. ![]() See ...this is how to keep others interested and wanting to listen to Prince and is what was needed this week. Much thanks to the sound engineer for doing this, he cares about the music that is left to share. | |
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So in Boxill's affidavit describing the process of the songs' creation, he refers to the string of songs I Am/Touch Me/Sunrise Sunset/No One Else as "Man Opera." I'm not clear on whether this title is one Prince used or if it's something Boxill came up with.
Also, while I realize that Boxill himself describes doing a fair amount of rerecording and dropping and adding of new parts after he was no longer working alongside or with Prince's input, I still have to say that very little of this sounds "non-Prince" in the sense that he obviously would have disapproved of what was recorded. I'm not saying he did give Boxill permission to do what he wanted with the tracks, nor am I saying that he would have desired the tracks' release in this form (or in whatever form he last heard them/approved them--since we have no indication he ever got to the "this is going out" phase of their development). But he pretty much did (by both his and Josh's accounts) give that sort of freedom (and more) to Josh Welton for good chunks of two album releases under Prince's name. Maybe he did with Boxill, too.
No matter, either way. I like what I'm hearing, and what I'm hearing is two pretty good Prince works (Deliverance and the other thing, which I guess I'll call "Man Opera" too)--only on my third listen, so how good they really are, I'm not sure. I'm glad to have them. I would, of course, like to have whatever versions Prince last heard and approved, and whatever Prince first recorded, and everything in between. But I'd like that for almost every track in his catalog, and that is never going to happen, so I'll just gladly take what I have here. | |
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You know left to their own devices the "estate" would have botched and butchered these tracks and god knows if they would have been released at all. Anyone here have faith in "the estate"? I would have been happier if everything had been donated to he state of Minnesota for preservation. | |
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^Then someone should have written a will. The Most Important Thing In Life Is Sincerity....Once You Can Fake That, You Can Fake Anything. | |
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Okay, I just read what he did to the songs and cringed. You can finish Prince songs all you want (pretty decent job and all, thanks for your time) but without his approval it's not a Prince song. He felt he had to remove The Twinz vocals?? He felt he needed to extend I Am (I knew those were looped vocals at the end...or am I wrong?) and No One Else (re-used those Touch Me vocals at the end?). It's, it's.... I don't know... great to get new music, but not this way. These are forever poluted in my mind. I can't even say what's worse...this or not having heard the songs at all. MPLSOUND | |
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Prince Estate Don't Even THINK About Releasing New Music ...Producer Loses in Court ![]() Ohh purple joy oh purple bliss oh purple rapture! REAL MUSIC by REAL MUSICIANS - Prince "I kind of wish there was a reason for Prince to make the site crash more" ~~ Ben |
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so, there's a lot of fighting going on in court... Prince 4Ever. ![]() | |
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Damn! I have missed it. [Snip - luv4u] Instead of releasing this album Paisley Park is releasing Purple Rain remixes. C'mon. Well if somebody would like to help me getting the Deliverance Album I would of course be very grateful. There is too much snow in Hollywood! | |
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I don't know if someone has mentioned this before. Just go to Digital Downloads and pretend you are in the USA ( click on the " I am in the USA" button). I used a .com only email address and it worked just fine. The only thing I was a bit worried about was that it only takes credit card for payment.
Enjoy! | |
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Damn! "Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato
https://youtu.be/CVwv9LZMah0 | |
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I got the Digital Download about 30 mins ago from the above website. It might still be there even if the Apple ones have been removed. | |
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I hope Ian Boxill gets taken for everything he owns. I downloaded the EP for free. He isn't owed one debt of gratitude-at leaset from me. If he really was serious about sharing the music, he would have released the music without tampering with Prince's original tracks or do the honorable thing and return the master tapes to the Estate. Still will never understand why Prince didn't draft a will to keep vultures from pilfering his music. 3121 #1 THIS YEAR | |
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Possibly because he was not considering dying when he did. The irony of your actions surely aren't lost on you. | |
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Is it just me or can you hear Fripp, Crimson, Queen and a massive amount of Prog coming through this batch of music. It is fascinating...oh, and Bush.
This is nothing but whimsy but it is fucking brilliant. | |
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Sorry - just got to No One Else. And we really now need to start the discussion about quality control on Prince's releases. | |
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I'm gonna say, two months. RIP ![]() | |
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Prince is no longer with us, so by your definition, we're never going to get another Prince song, ever. The reality is that all we have left are going to be releases which aren't Prince approved and are finished by other people. RIP ![]() | |
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Who knows how much Boxill actually tinkered with these tracks, but they still remain uniquely Prince-ly to my ears. It was a delight listening to these songs. Though they sound oddly truncated, it is a great suite of music. Unusual melodies, great guitar playing, and Prince's voice is sublime. I hope the vault is full of surprises such as this. Hundalasiliah! | |
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This...
And I'm just grateful that there's one song (Deliverance) out of the six I can have on consant replay...
Hoping for many, many, many more songs to come... | |
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PurpleDiamonds1 said: rogifan said: I can confirm this is no longer available on iTunes or Apple Music. Though earlier today it was #1 on their pre-order chart. ![]() I just listened to all the songs and really am liking it... I get why it had to be taken down but just the fact it was #1...I'll bet music from the vault sells better than we expect. And I'll bet when the new Purple Rain deluxe album drops it will hit #1 on the charts. Paisley Park is in your heart
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It was number 1 on pre-orders. What was it up against? That doesn't necessarilly mean it would be anywhere near number 1 on the sales chart. RIP ![]() | |
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It was number 1 on pre-orders. What was it up against? That doesn't necessarilly mean it would be anywhere near number 1 on the sales chart. I'm not talking about this EP. I'm talking about official "new" music from the vault. Paisley Park is in your heart
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very fair point but it's like always said about bootlegs i.e. leaked ones are often not finished until he released them & therefore I guess a sketch. That said the feeling I & many got when we first heard the title track was pure joy. Yes it's stolen material BUT bloody hell it was good to hear something new. | |
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The Estate now has the master tape. If they were smart, they would immediately release the unedited version without Boxill's tinkering. But they wont. | |
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Love it all. 2-5 is one song but it's a great song. Glad it's out there, thanks Ian "Still Crazy 4 Coco Rock" | |
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It's grown on me after several listens. The material is strong. | |
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