laurarichardson said:

moonsister said:

I thought her point about not getting enough to eat was her way of saying that she wasn't being treated any better than any other band member even though they were questioning why she was even there. She never said Prince knew she was hungry and did nothing about it. She kicks herself in the butt for being dumb about things, but the pay docking over the whipped cream incident is a dick move, one he was known to make WAY too much. I want someone somewhere to step up and say he told Prince to kiss his ass when he pulled shit like this.

i'm sure it happened many times, he and morris got into a fistfight, someone also insinuated on here that he and andre did too, the lawyer and him, randy phillips got into a fight when Phillips told him 'stop doing a&r with your dick". and as for women, i doubt wendy took shit from him without firing back, robin powers says she didn't take disrespect either. susan rogers also has a story of throwing her money at prince when he tried to fine her, she went off on him and he acted like it didn't even happen afterwards. at any rate, one thing I always think of is, would prince have been prince without being like that? I'm not so sure. It's not easy being a leader like that and trying to be liked at the same time anyway, bastards pretty much run things.

moonsister said:

I thought her point about not getting enough to eat was her way of saying that she wasn't being treated any better than any other band member even though they were questioning why she was even there. She never said Prince knew she was hungry and did nothing about it. She kicks herself in the butt for being dumb about things, but the pay docking over the whipped cream incident is a dick move, one he was known to make WAY too much. I want someone somewhere to step up and say he told Prince to kiss his ass when he pulled shit like this.

i'm sure it happened many times, he and morris got into a fistfight, someone also insinuated on here that he and andre did too, the lawyer and him, randy phillips got into a fight when Phillips told him 'stop doing a&r with your dick". and as for women, i doubt wendy took shit from him without firing back, robin powers says she didn't take disrespect either. susan rogers also has a story of throwing her money at prince when he tried to fine her, she went off on him and he acted like it didn't even happen afterwards. at any rate, one thing I always think of is, would prince have been prince without being like that? I'm not so sure. It's not easy being a leader like that and trying to be liked at the same time anyway, bastards pretty much run things.

PeteSilas said:

moonsister said:

laurarichardson said:

Flirt1 said:

i'm sure it happened many times, he and morris got into a fistfight, someone also insinuated on here that he and andre did too, the lawyer and him, randy phillips got into a fight when Phillips told him 'stop doing a&r with your dick". and as for women, i doubt wendy took shit from him without firing back, robin powers says she didn't take disrespect either. susan rogers also has a story of throwing her money at prince when he tried to fine her, she went off on him and he acted like it didn't even happen afterwards. at any rate, one thing I always think of is, would prince have been prince without being like that? I'm not so sure. It's not easy being a leader like that and trying to be liked at the same time anyway, bastards pretty much run things.

[/quote It sounds like Vanity stood up to him.

-/Yes, most people who run shit have to get ass sometimes to get things done but it looks like he respected people who pushed back. Remember Morris was high as kite on the set of PR and Prince did get up and punched him back he was not Sammie Lunchmeat to pushed around.

sammie lunchmeat haha

savagedreams said:

mbdtyler said:

Just because it's fiction doesn't make it okay,

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i have never understood that point when it comes to songs and songwriters. nobody craps on an author or screen writer for writing the most horrible things imaginable, or an actor for portraying it on screen, because its just a book or movie. but for some reason when it comes to music supposedly every word out of a singers mouth is supposed to be taken as non fiction truth. why is that? its a bullshit double standard.

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its just like in the 80s and when heavy metal was being slammed for being satanic and whatever else they were being attacked for. steven king could write a horrible horror story and get praised as an amazing author, but when a band would make song about one of his stories they were satanic and evil.

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BartVanHemelen said:

laurarichardson said:

I never really heard violent stuff in his music toward women.

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Have you watched Purple Rain?

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M.O.V.I.E.

laurarichardson said:

ludwig said:

Oh, come on. This is laughable. Those scenes wouldn't be in the movie, if prince would've had a problem with it. And you know that.

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The director said that he told Prince he had to be the bad guy in the movie. Because everybody hates rockstars. It was a calculated move that he would not be likable. We have never had any of his ladies say he smacked them around so I would say let's stop confusing a work of fiction with real life.

EmmaMcG said:

ludwig said:

There was also this "funny" scene where Jerome threw a woman in a dumpster.

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I agree that Prince could be very disrespectful towards women (and men) in some of his song lyrics and actions throughout his life but maybe less so in his later years? Perhaps he grew up a bit. But, in terms of the two scenes from Purple Rain that were brought up here, I think it's important to note the context of these scenes. Firstly, the slap. Or the smack. Or the back-hander or, as my mother would call it, the "jaw warmer" he gives Appolonia. The scene is included to show that if he continues on the path he's on, he'll end up just like his father, which is something he doesn't want to be. It doesn't glamorise violence towards women. If anything, it condemns it because it's the moment in the movie where he realises he needs to change. Secondly, the scene where Morris has the girl thrown in the dumpster. Again, context is key. Morris Day is the villain in Purple Rain. In order to get that point across, the movie has to show him committing villainous acts. And yes, the scene is kind of amusing but it gets his character over quite efficiently. He is a bad guy but he's the kind of bad who might appeal to a certain crowd. But don't forget, he's just playing a character. It's a work of fiction.

Exactly

SquirrelMeat said:

phatphuk said:

Hold up. So, when Prince sings about raping someone, it's just a lyric in a catchy tune? But when he sings an even catchier tune about incest, he's taken literally?!?!

Thats a very good point.

Also, he's spent half of his career singing about a magically sky fairy that knows all, but people take it in their stride because their parents or community told them the sky fairy is real.

Oh Squirrel, how you been?