DD55 said:

laurarichardson said:

rogifan said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

rogifan said:

What?

um, yeah...what ace bandages? He wore arm bling not arm bandages

some people can reach really far to manipulate in order to fit their own agenda/narrative

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

rogifan said:

What?

um, yeah...what ace bandages? He wore arm bling not arm bandages

precioux said:

laurarichardson said:

laurarichardson said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

um, yeah...what ace bandages? He wore arm bling not arm bandages

--There is picture of Prince with an ace bandaid hanging out from under his wrist bling. It was actually discussed on this board.

laurarichardson said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

um, yeah...what ace bandages? He wore arm bling not arm bandages

--There is picture of Prince with an ace bandaid hanging out from under his wrist bling. It was actually discussed on this board.

paulludvig said:

rogifan said:

laurarichardson said:

rogifan said:

laurarichardson said:

Because it looks like one.

These don't like like ace bandages but what do I know.

Thank you for sharing this beautiful experience, benni. I believe it could have been an angel as I believe that they are present, however, in this case, I agree with angellooksdown, the six-year-old you knew who's voice she heard.

anangellooksdown said:

benni said:

And it is not unusual for a small child to think an angel talked to them, especially if they were going through some sort of trauma or difficult childhood. When I was 6, being abused and witnessing domestic violence, one night after I had said my prayers and crawled into bed, I heard a voice tell me, "Good night, b. Sleep well. You've been a good girl today. I love you." I didn't understand what was happening, ran into the living room where my mom and dad were, and asked them if they had just told me good night. Both denied it and my dad searched the house. No one was ever found. I slept that night without nightmares and without anything bad happening that night. From that moment on, I believed Jesus had spoken to me, later a preacher told me that he didn't believe Jesus would speak with people like that, and that it must have been an angel.

Benni, I love this story. When we are kids before about 6 years old, we are still in touch with our inner coscuousness. I believe that was God/Jesus Who spoke to you.

stlmuziqlvr said:

Thank you for sharing this beautiful experience, benni. I believe it could have been an angel as I believe that they are present, however, in this case, I agree with angellooksdown, the six-year-old you knew who's voice she heard.

anangellooksdown said:

benni said: Benni, I love this story. When we are kids before about 6 years old, we are still in touch with our inner coscuousness. I believe that was God/Jesus Who spoke to you.

Thank you (and to everyone that commented). It just always reminded me that I'm never truly alone, that there is someone always looking over me and loving me, even when I couldn't love myself.

stlmuziqlvr said:

Thank you for sharing this beautiful experience, benni. I believe it could have been an angel as I believe that they are present, however, in this case, I agree with angellooksdown, the six-year-old you knew who's voice she heard.

anangellooksdown said:

benni said: Benni, I love this story. When we are kids before about 6 years old, we are still in touch with our inner coscuousness. I believe that was God/Jesus Who spoke to you.

Also, "stl"? St. Louis?

laurarichardson said:

rogifan said:

These don't like like ace bandages but what do I know.

--Because we do not see an ace band aid in this picture but we do see one poking out in the other pic. It is rally not that big of deal dude played music continually those wrist of his probaly needed the support.

http://prince.org/msg/7/430187

stlmuziqlvr said:

Thank you for sharing this beautiful experience, benni. I believe it could have been an angel as I believe that they are present, however, in this case, I agree with angellooksdown, the six-year-old you knew who's voice she heard.

anangellooksdown said:

benni said: Benni, I love this story. When we are kids before about 6 years old, we are still in touch with our inner coscuousness. I believe that was God/Jesus Who spoke to you.

i have an ex friend who had all kinds of wierd shit happen to him, he said when he was a child, one night, the wall in his room opened up and he saw a lot of kids playing, a voice tried to entice him in, a ball actually bounced into the room, the voice asked him if he wanted to come in, he said no and then the voice told him if he stayed he'd be in a life of pain. Just then, his big brother told him to shuttup and go to bed.

Then, at the time I knew him, and this one is fascinating because it sounded like a police interrogation. He left his body and felt he was travelling down, there were to figures asking him questions and it sounded like they were just like policemen, if you've ever been fucked with, you know the good cop bad cop routine, anyway, he asked them "am I dead" and the bad cop said "no, but you will be soon".

Had another friend who's grandma used to come back and visit him, his sister too.

rogifan said:

laurarichardson said:

--There is picture of Prince with an ace bandaid hanging out from under his wrist bling. It was actually discussed on this board.

How do we know this is an ace bandage? There is no way of telling for sure. For all we know they might just be blinged out sweat bands to keep his hands from getting sweaty. He wore these in many different colors too. [Edited 3/31/17 9:47am]

If he was wearing an ace bandage on his wrist (and I have no idea if he was, this is just an IF moment), it could be because his wrist hurt from holding on to a guitar neck for hours. Ance bandages provide a little support. I know Larry Mullen, the drummer for U2, wore ace bandages or some other kind of wrist support for years because he had issues with pain in his wrists from drumming. Nothing dramatic ( I can't even remember the condition he developed, but I vaguely recall it being similar to the same kind of issue lots of receptionists and nurses get from holding their hands/wrists in awkward positions for long periods of time. I forget what it's called.) at all. Instruments are hard on the body, yo.

But those, to me, look more like sweatband cuffs, or something.

SpookyNopetopus said:

rogifan said:

laurarichardson said: How do we know this is an ace bandage? There is no way of telling for sure. For all we know they might just be blinged out sweat bands to keep his hands from getting sweaty. He wore these in many different colors too. [Edited 3/31/17 9:47am]

If he was wearing an ace bandage on his wrist (and I have no idea if he was, this is just an IF moment), it could be because his wrist hurt from holding on to a guitar neck for hours. Ance bandages provide a little support. I know Larry Mullen, the drummer for U2, wore ace bandages or some other kind of wrist support for years because he had issues with pain in his wrists from drumming. Nothing dramatic ( I can't even remember the condition he developed, but I vaguely recall it being similar to the same kind of issue lots of receptionists and nurses get from holding their hands/wrists in awkward positions for long periods of time. I forget what it's called.) at all. Instruments are hard on the body, yo.

But those, to me, look more like sweatband cuffs, or something.

Carpal Tunnel.

PeteSilas said:

stlmuziqlvr said:

Thank you for sharing this beautiful experience, benni. I believe it could have been an angel as I believe that they are present, however, in this case, I agree with angellooksdown, the six-year-old you knew who's voice she heard.

i have an ex friend who had all kinds of wierd shit happen to him, he said when he was a child, one night, the wall in his room opened up and he saw a lot of kids playing, a voice tried to entice him in, a ball actually bounced into the room, the voice asked him if he wanted to come in, he said no and then the voice told him if he stayed he'd be in a life of pain. Just then, his big brother told him to shuttup and go to bed.

Then, at the time I knew him, and this one is fascinating because it sounded like a police interrogation. He left his body and felt he was travelling down, there were to figures asking him questions and it sounded like they were just like policemen, if you've ever been fucked with, you know the good cop bad cop routine, anyway, he asked them "am I dead" and the bad cop said "no, but you will be soon".

Had another friend who's grandma used to come back and visit him, his sister too.

I believe this. A lot of things like this do happen - I've seen some crazy stuff myself. Strange world.

laurarichardson said:

Sorry, benni. I did not see your question until today. Yes, St. Louis.

benni said:

stlmuziqlvr said:

Thank you for sharing this beautiful experience, benni. I believe it could have been an angel as I believe that they are present, however, in this case, I agree with angellooksdown, the six-year-old you knew who's voice she heard.

Also, "stl"? St. Louis?

Upon learning of Prince's passing, i thought about his health and things he mentioned or others mentioned as being the factors for his passing. I knew of the childhood epilepsy. I also remember reading an article where he mentioned having issues with vertigo, which was a surprise. Pain and pain meds were and weren't a surprise. Him taking the meds was a surprise but the reasoning made alot of sense after reading Sheila's book, where she spoke of her physical condition after playing with him for years. She was in the mix for about 6/7 years and she was in bad physical shape after that. Prince, on the other hand usually worked even harder than the musicians or talent he produced, so i can only imagine the physical shape he was in after 37 years of almost non-stop, rehearsing, playing, performing and dancing coupled with inconsistent eating and sleeping habits. All of that and the factoring in of age kind of points to the unfortunate conclusion. In addition, if in fact he was taking multiple meds, what about the interaction of those meds? And then his continued activity despite the health issues. The brotha lived kinda hard. Of note as well, was the fact that alot of autopsy info was restricted, so no tellin what all was in the mix concerning his health and death.

What throws another loop in all the speculation is the fact that Kim said she was surprised, as in she was not expecting this, but that wasn't pushed any further so that really could mean a lot of things.

Mkilpatrick74 said:

My daughter has a seizure disorder that will begin with a migraine always....then will come the blank stares and just zoned out....soon after her eyes roll and they close and she collapses. There have been times she has been unresponsive for several mins. So, im goimg wirh he had a seizure. Its much more fitting wirh what ive seen personally.

I have to agree. From the moment I heard about the plane incident I thought it was a seizure. My question was wither the seizure was brought on by the drugs he was taking or the withdraw from the drugs he was taking.

poor dear.

stlmuziqlvr said:

Sorry, benni. I did not see your question until today. Yes, St. Louis.

benni said:

Also, "stl"? St. Louis?

Ahh, my old stomping grounds. I grew up around Manchester and Tower Grove. My first Prince concert was in Collinsville, though it was billed (at the time) as St. Louis.

gingerwildwood said:

Mkilpatrick74 said:

My daughter has a seizure disorder that will begin with a migraine always....then will come the blank stares and just zoned out....soon after her eyes roll and they close and she collapses. There have been times she has been unresponsive for several mins. So, im goimg wirh he had a seizure. Its much more fitting wirh what ive seen personally.

I have to agree. From the moment I heard about the plane incident I thought it was a seizure. My question was wither the seizure was brought on by the drugs he was taking or the withdraw from the drugs he was taking.

poor dear.

Do you think he was using pain pills when he was a child? Not sure why people cannot believe he a seizure issue long before pain pills and I have been wondering if the use of pain meds may not have started because of migrain headaches and seizures.

http://www.choosingwisely.org/patient-resources/treating-migraine-headaches/

Treating Migraine Headaches

Some drugs should rarely be used

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Migraine attacks can last for hours—or even days. They can cause intense pain, nausea, and vomiting. They can make you sensitive to light or noise, and they can affect your life and work.

To treat migraines, you may get a prescription for an opioid (narcotic) or a barbiturate (sedative) called butalbital. These are pain medicines. But you should think twice about using these drugs. Here’s why:

These drugs can make headaches worse.
Using too much pain medicine can lead to a condition called MOH, or medication overuse headache.

• Drugs containing opioids—such as hydrocodone (Norco, Vicodin, and generics) or oxycodone (Percocet and generics).
• Drugs containing butalbital (Fioricet, Fiorinal, and generics).

They are not as effective as other migraine drugs.
There are other drugs that can reduce the number of migraines you have and how severe they are— better than opioids and butalbital. Even in the emergency room—where people with severe migraines often ask for opioids—better drugs are available.

They have risks.
Opioids and butalbital can cause serious withdrawal symptoms if you stop taking them suddenly. People who use high doses for a long time may need to be in the hospital in order to stop using them.

Opioids, even at low doses, can make you feel sleepy or dizzy. Other side effects include constipation and nausea. Using them for a long time can lower your sex drive and cause depression and sleep problems.

They can be a waste of money.
Opioids and butalbital pills do not cost a lot. But why spend money on drugs you don’t need?

Also, if these drugs cause side effects and more headaches, you may have to go to extra doctors’ appointments. This will take time and may cost you money.

What drugs are good for migraines?
If you have migraine attacks, try one of the drugs listed below. They all work best if you use them when the migraine is just beginning.

1. Start with a non-prescription pain drug that combines aspirin, acetaminophen, and caffeine (Excedrin Migraine, Excedrin Extra Strength, and generics). Or try non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs such as ibuprofen (Advil and generic) or naproxen (Aleve and generic).
2. If these drugs do not help, or your headaches are more severe, try one of the prescription migraine drugs called triptans, such as sumatriptan (Imitrex and generic).
3. Start If triptans do not work, try dihydroergotamine nasal spray (Migranal). This drug works even better as an injection (DHE-45 and generic). You or your doctor can do the injection.

If you have migraines often, or if they are very severe, ask your doctor about drugs to prevent headaches.

When are opioids or butalbital useful for migraines?
Your doctor may suggest an opioid if none of the treatments listed above help, or if you have bad side effects.

It is not clear if butalbital should be used at all for treating migraines. If your doctor prescribes butalbital for your migraines, ask why. And ask if there are any other drugs that would work.

Limit the use of all pain medicines.

• Do not use prescription pain medicine for headaches for more than nine days in a month.
• Do not use non-prescription pain medicine for more than 14 days in a month.

This report is for you to use when talking with your health-care provider. It is not a substitute for medical advice and treatment. Use of this report is at your own risk.

© 2013 Consumer Reports. Developed in cooperation with the American Academy of Neurology. To learn more about the sources used in this report and terms and conditions of use, visit ConsumerHealthChoices.org/about-us/.

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Narcotic analgesics

Narcotic migraine medicines, also referred to as opioid analgesics, are synthetically made or occur naturally in opium poppies. These substances are known as narcotics, opiates and opioid. These short-acting narcotics may cause physical dependence or psychological addiction. For this reason, these drugs are only meant to be used intermittently (off and on) or for the short term. Long-term use leads to tolerance, meaning more drugs are needed but don’t work as well and overuse may also cause an increase in headaches.

Different narcotic analgesics

• Codeine, which is often combined with acetaminophen in Tylenol
• Hydrocodone, often combined with acetaminophen in Lortab and Vicodin
• Meperdine, under the brand name Demerol
• Oxycodone with acetaminophen in Percocet
• Hydromorphone under the brand name Dilaudid
• Butorphanol Tartrate, under the brand name Stadol a nasal spray (very addictive)
• Hydromorphone, under the brand name Actiq, medication on a stick like a lollipop
• Tramadol – Ultram for migraines

How Narcotics work to treat migraines

Narcotics work to relieve pain by preventing the release of the neurotransmitter Substance P in the nerves. This helps reduce the way migraine sufferers perceive pain in the brain. It is also sedating and cuts down how emotionally upset the migraine sufferer feels as a result of the pain.

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Side effects of Narcotics

• Nausea
• Itching
• Drowsiness

Serious side effects of Narcotics

If itching is accompanied by rash, swelling of the lips, tongue or throat this is a sign of a serious allergic reaction. Seek immediate medical attention.

Who should not take Narcotics

Because Narcotics cause drowsiness, it shouldn’t be taken with alcohol or any other drug that is sedating. Also don’t take narcotics if you will be doing any potentially dangerous activity such as driving, operating heavy machinery or working at heights.

Also, do not use Narcotics if you have

• Respiratory depression
• Chronic lung disease
• Chronic liver or kidney disease
• BPH, benign prostatic hyperplasia or benign prostatic hypertrophy
• Increased intracranial pressure
• Hypersensitivity reactions

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