'I knew he was struggling': Prince's ex-wife speaks out about the pop icon's devastating addiction, secret overdoses and drug stashes

Reply #391 posted 03/28/17 1:13pm

laurarichardson said:
precioux said:

aspirins are not addictive, opiates are. It is a FACT that addiction to opiates can occur in as little as 3 days. Maybe read up on it, before saying something "reads" as ridiculous...and, no I'm not being "facetious", I'm stating FACTS.

So are you saying he should have never taken anything at all? Because people are given pain meds and sent on their way with joint pain issues and it is not like Prince could not afford the best advice or care. Give us your medical opinion because I have problems with back so I already know what I am talking about so you tell me what you think he should have done? I am pretty sure this is the reason he did not discuss this with too many people.

No, you're twisting words again...YOU said.."So, if SOMEONEhas a migaraine....and takes a PRESCRIBED med..", you did not reference Prince in particular, and if you were referencing Prince, the meds were not prescribed.Did I say Prince should not have taken pain meds if needed, and if the meds were prescribed? No...I simply stated the facts of what the dangers of taking opiates are and how quickly one can become addicted as fact. You don't have to be an MD to do a quick Google search. In direct reference to this fact, Fortune's statement was not "ridiculous".

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Reply #392 posted 03/28/17 1:25pm

FlyOnTheWall	These threads are so painful.
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Reply #393 posted 03/28/17 1:31pm

precioux said:

laurarichardson said:

precioux said:

aspirins are not addictive, opiates are. It is a FACT that addiction to opiates can occur in as little as 3 days. Maybe read up on it, before saying something "reads" as ridiculous...and, no I'm not being "facetious", I'm stating FACTS.

So are you saying he should have never taken anything at all? Because people are given pain meds and sent on their way with joint pain issues and it is not like Prince could not afford the best advice or care. Give us your medical opinion because I have problems with back so I already know what I am talking about so you tell me what you think he should have done? I am pretty sure this is the reason he did not discuss this with too many people.

I asked you a question and I used a question mark. How is that twisting your words? Are you going to answer my question?
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Reply #394 posted 03/28/17 1:34pm

fortuneandserendipity said:

laurarichardson said:

fortuneandserendipity said:

If they're taking it for longer than a month against their doctor's advice, they're an addict. If they're taking a form of it illegitimately and can't quit, they're an addict. You're the one who continues to sound ridiculous.

Let me give a more mundane example as well. People who can't quit coffee and get withdrawal symptoms if they attempt it and can't help but stay on it are caffeine addicts. Are you going to have a problem with caffeine addicts now? ffs.

Dependency on pain meds, which is a long term problem, is a form of addiction. If only you knew more about the nervous system, you wouldn't sound so ignorant.

--Yoh have no idea what is stituation was unless you have access to his medical file so who is being ignorant. Dependency or addiction? Look up Sherlock!

You keep getting hung up over the word 'addiction' and you always think you're right...

hmm

You are the one that is hung on addiction. Not me. Oh and these pics you put up are really stupid. We all get it your are above these tired conversations yet you cannot stay away.

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Reply #395 posted 03/28/17 1:37pm

PeteSilas said:

laurarichardson said:
PeteSilas said: --He is not a good source of info. He talked to CJ all the time who practically cackled with delight the day Prince died. I doubt the family tells him anything and have no idea what he is going on about now.

did he really? when did he cackle? i got to see that.

@Pete...CJ is the columnist that Prince loathed, and wrote "Billy Jack Bitch" for. In regards to your comment about Chazz stalking a funeral, what I think you are referring to is P's mother's funeral, where Chazz said some ugly things as well as something to the effect that "everyone was looking and waiting for Prince, and he never showed up, to his own mother's funeral".

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Reply #396 posted 03/28/17 1:42pm

laurarichardson said:
precioux said:

No, you're twisting words again...YOU said.."So, if SOMEONEhas a migaraine....and takes a PRESCRIBED med..", you did not reference Prince in particular, and if you were referencing Prince, the meds were not prescribed.Did I say Prince should not have taken pain meds if needed, and if the meds were prescribed? No...I simply stated the facts of what the dangers of taking opiates are and how quickly one can become addicted as fact. You don't have to be an MD to do a quick Google search. In direct reference to this fact, Fortune's statement was not "ridiculous".

I asked you a question and I used a question mark. How is that twisting your words? Are you going to answer my question? [Edited 3/28/17 13:34pm]

Exactly which question do you want answered...this is going in circles and I've addressed everything you asked.

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Reply #397 posted 03/28/17 1:56pm

PeteSilas

precioux said:

PeteSilas said:

did he really? when did he cackle? i got to see that.

@Pete...CJ is the columnist that Prince loathed, and wrote "Billy Jack Bitch" for. In regards to your comment about Chazz stalking a funeral, what I think you are referring to is P's mother's funeral, where Chazz said some ugly things as well as something to the effect that "everyone was looking and waiting for Prince, and he never showed up, to his own mother's funeral".

yup thats gotta be it thanks.

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Reply #398 posted 03/28/17 2:04pm

precioux said:

laurarichardson said:

precioux said:

No, you're twisting words again...YOU said.."So, if SOMEONEhas a migaraine....and takes a PRESCRIBED med..", you did not reference Prince in particular, and if you were referencing Prince, the meds were not prescribed.Did I say Prince should not have taken pain meds if needed, and if the meds were prescribed? No...I simply stated the facts of what the dangers of taking opiates are and how quickly one can become addicted as fact. You don't have to be an MD to do a quick Google search. In direct reference to this fact, Fortune's statement was not "ridiculous".

I asked you a question and I used a question mark. How is that twisting your words? Are you going to answer my question? [Edited 3/28/17 13:34pm]

Exactly which question do you want answered...this is going in circles and I've addressed everything you asked.

Once again "Are you saying he should not have taken anything at all" ????? Can you answer this question?

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Reply #399 posted 03/28/17 2:09pm

PeteSilas said:

laurarichardson said:

PeteSilas said:

someone who change up that much isn't really a good source. He was also on the ins and outs with prince over the years, he was bitter for a long, long time and so of course he wasn't close. i read on here that he went to some funeral hoping to run into prince which is a fucked up thing to do too.

--He is not a good source of info. He talked to CJ all the time who practically cackled with delight the day Prince died. I doubt the family tells him anything and have no idea what he is going on about now.

did he really? when did he cackle? i got to see that.

No Charles was not cackling C.J was making fun of his death which was par for the course for her. Charles I believe was ranting about Prince not coming to his mom's funeral. Not sure why he thougt that was something CJ needed to know.

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Reply #400 posted 03/28/17 2:10pm

laurarichardso n	Denial is a river in Egypt. said: I call that Pimping... maybe that's cause i know Soul. laurarichardson said: Yes, he had pain enough to walk around with a damm cane and be photographed in a scooter wow so much pride. said: I've felt that Prince's IMMENSE Pride was largely at fault for his Death - from the beginning.
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Reply #401 posted 03/28/17 4:23pm

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PurpleDiamonds1 said:
laurarichardson said:
Who were 3rd Eye Girl invisable people from space some them were with him at Dakota. He was seen around town and he was planning on touring later in the year with the Black is the New Blak guys. Scott the engineer did the sound for those piano shows. Had it ever occurred to any of you he wantrd to cut expenses by not having a band? He was not hiding in the basement of Paisley poping pills. Do you realize that he travelled to Australia and stayed longer than what was planned so he could perform in New Zealand. How does one make an 18 hour flight puking, being constipated and all the other side effects of pain meds? said: [Edited 3/27/17 13:09pm]
I agree with you Laura. Someone deliberately did this to Prince. They went as far as having pills made up to look like hydrocodone and laced them with fentanyl. IMO the person that had Phaedra call Dr K knows something because they guessed an OD with fentanyl was going to happen before it did and Andrew shows up with a back pack with pills. We were only made aware of the bag containing suboxone. But who knows what else?? Either Andrew was sent in to do this to P as a threat that may have turned deadly and the suboxone was there to revive him on given the fentanyl laced pills or gas ...the moline incident may have been someone giving P a warning and if he did not comply it would be the end. As you know he brought the symbol back and was getting vocal against WB again even told us not to support them as they were refusing to hold up to their end of the agreement. Prince seemed to have a lot of future plans and dying wasn't one of them.

Nobody did this to Prince on purpose. He or someone he knew obtained these pills illegally. Neither one probably knew that they were a bad batch of pills that contained fentanyl. Sad fact is, that's what happens when you take street drugs, you never know what's in them.

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Reply #402 posted 03/28/17 4:53pm

PennyPurple said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

laurarichardson said:
Who were 3rd Eye Girl invisable people from space some them were with him at Dakota. He was seen around town and he was planning on touring later in the year with the Black is the New Blak guys. Scott the engineer did the sound for those piano shows. Had it ever occurred to any of you he wantrd to cut expenses by not having a band? He was not hiding in the basement of Paisley poping pills. Do you realize that he travelled to Australia and stayed longer than what was planned so he could perform in New Zealand. How does one make an 18 hour flight puking, being constipated and all the other side effects of pain meds? said: [Edited 3/27/17 13:09pm]

I agree with you Laura. Someone deliberately did this to Prince. They went as far as having pills made up to look like hydrocodone and laced them with fentanyl. IMO the person that had Phaedra call Dr K knows something because they guessed an OD with fentanyl was going to happen before it did and Andrew shows up with a back pack with pills. We were only made aware of the bag containing suboxone. But who knows what else?? Either Andrew was sent in to do this to P as a threat that may have turned deadly and the suboxone was there to revive him on given the fentanyl laced pills or gas ...the moline incident may have been someone giving P a warning and if he did not comply it would be the end. As you know he brought the symbol back and was getting vocal against WB again even told us not to support them as they were refusing to hold up to their end of the agreement. Prince seemed to have a lot of future plans and dying wasn't one of them.

--It does not matter if it was on purpose or deliberate it is still 3rd degree murder. What I hope is that it is someone who did know him as I cannot imagine that anyone that was a friend was involved because I cannot see how they could live with themselves. At this point it unlikely that anyone will be held responsible. cry

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Reply #403 posted 03/28/17 6:26pm

Flirt1

I am grateful to you for continuing to ask these questions. Do we know if Prince was going to his studio or leaving his studio after a work session? This could be determined by looking at computer logs.
Did he normally use the elevator or the stairs?
Since thie happened I have looked at elevators to imagine if a person disabled and on the floor could reach an emergency contact button or phone with an outstretched hand or cane. The buttons seem to be within reach.
I accidentally bumped the emergency phone button in one elevator and a person immediately came on line to ask if I needed assistance.
Why was security not there to help this man?
We need to be asking for better answers where none have been forthcoming.

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Reply #404 posted 03/28/17 6:37pm

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Dont forget that P also had Percocet, lidocaine, and alprazolam (anti-anxiety med) in his system.

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Reply #405 posted 03/28/17 6:38pm

PennyPurple said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

laurarichardson said:
Who were 3rd Eye Girl invisable people from space some them were with him at Dakota. He was seen around town and he was planning on touring later in the year with the Black is the New Blak guys. Scott the engineer did the sound for those piano shows. Had it ever occurred to any of you he wantrd to cut expenses by not having a band? He was not hiding in the basement of Paisley poping pills. Do you realize that he travelled to Australia and stayed longer than what was planned so he could perform in New Zealand. How does one make an 18 hour flight puking, being constipated and all the other side effects of pain meds? said: [Edited 3/27/17 13:09pm]

I agree with you Laura. Someone deliberately did this to Prince. They went as far as having pills made up to look like hydrocodone and laced them with fentanyl. IMO the person that had Phaedra call Dr K knows something because they guessed an OD with fentanyl was going to happen before it did and Andrew shows up with a back pack with pills. We were only made aware of the bag containing suboxone. But who knows what else?? Either Andrew was sent in to do this to P as a threat that may have turned deadly and the suboxone was there to revive him on given the fentanyl laced pills or gas ...the moline incident may have been someone giving P a warning and if he did not comply it would be the end. As you know he brought the symbol back and was getting vocal against WB again even told us not to support them as they were refusing to hold up to their end of the agreement. Prince seemed to have a lot of future plans and dying wasn't one of them.

--How is it that you and others can ignore the many things that are wrong in the stiuation. DrK, Andrew , Prince getting around the way that he did, no gent in his system the day before, and the 65k for medical expenses in his inventory sheet.

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Reply #406 posted 03/28/17 6:53pm

laurarichardson said:

precioux said:

laurarichardson said:

precioux said:

No, you're twisting words again...YOU said.."So, if SOMEONEhas a migaraine....and takes a PRESCRIBED med..", you did not reference Prince in particular, and if you were referencing Prince, the meds were not prescribed.Did I say Prince should not have taken pain meds if needed, and if the meds were prescribed? No...I simply stated the facts of what the dangers of taking opiates are and how quickly one can become addicted as fact. You don't have to be an MD to do a quick Google search. In direct reference to this fact, Fortune's statement was not "ridiculous".

I asked you a question and I used a question mark. How is that twisting your words? Are you going to answer my question? [Edited 3/28/17 13:34pm]

Exactly which question do you want answered...this is going in circles and I've addressed everything you asked.

Once again "Are you saying he should not have taken anything at all" ????? Can you answer this question?

Let's break this "conversation" down, since you seem to enjoy jumping from pillar to post when cornered.

In reply #374, Fortune basically asked you to stop lying to yourself bc dependency on pain meds is a form of addiction. Then you proceed to insinuate that fortune is saying that if someone so much as takes an aspirin, they're an addict, or if anyone has an illness they should they steer clear of all meds in lieu of becoming one(wth?!) that sounds ridiculous.

I responded stating that aspirins are not addictive, but taking opiates for as little as 3days, you CAN become addicted (backing up fortunes statement that dependably is a form of addiction)and somehow you glean from that the question "so you are saying he should've never taken anything at all? Seriously??? It went from fortune and I stating facts of opiates to "should P not have taken anything at all?"...Jeez!

Was I his Dr.? No..so I can not answer that question, but I can tell you this, if in fact P did have hip/joint pain (which I am not refuting, for the record), then yes, I'm more than positive he should have been "taking something"..THAT WAS PRESCRIBED TO HIM BY A DR. if the pain was that bad.Damn..

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Reply #407 posted 03/28/17 7:11pm

precioux	ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said: Dont forget that P also had Percocet, lidocaine, and alprazolam (anti-anxiety med) in his system. And U-4770
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Reply #408 posted 03/28/17 7:51pm

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laurarichardson said:

80tomato said:

PeteSilas said:

rogifan said:

We most likely will never know why he was taking painkillers in the first place and/or if the use of them over time caused an illness so honestly what is the point of speculating? The only fact we have is the cause of death via the ME report. And one could add the comments from his personal chef who talked about Prince being sick a lot (towards the end) and requesting more smoothies. I'm going to assume his chef wouldn't make that up. http://www.hollywoodrepor...ght-889161

the cook gave some of the best insight into Prince's health in the last days than anyone and it's ironic that his was one of the earliest interviews, i think it was like in the next day or two of Prince's passing.

Hey Pete ...do you mean no one had a chance to tell him to keep his mouth shut....

Well the chefs now work st PP and one of them did say on a Facebook page that they were lied to about his health after some nut accused them of poisoning Prince. So they did keep talking a little bit. What I find interesting is that they said his demeanor only changed in January. Up an till then they said he was fine but know one is saying he sleepily, hyper or short-tempered.

They said his demeanor changed in January ? That's right after he did the gig for that rich Russian Duse

I asked Prince what he was planning to do. He told me , I'm going to look for the ladder. I asked him what that meant. All he said was, sometimes it snows in April. - book D.M.S.R.

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Reply #409 posted 03/28/17 9:31pm

Flirt1	What is the Jehovah's Witness teaching on suicide?
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Reply #410 posted 03/28/17 9:44pm

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Flirt1 said:
What is the Jehovah's Witness teaching on suicide?

Whaaaat?

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Reply #411 posted 03/28/17 9:55pm

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laurarichardson said:
--There are 3 different interviews with Charles and he changes what he has to say every time. Now he has Justice For Prince in his Facebook page and is going on about lies. So you tell me what that means?

yeahthat

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Reply #412 posted 03/28/17 10:12pm

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MMJas said:

laurarichardson said:
Identity said: --There are 3 different interviews with Charles and he changes what he has to say every time. Now he has Justice For Prince in his Facebook page and is going on about lies. So you tell me what that means?

Chazz's post:

"March 19 at 3:26pm

Why do you tell stories cause every time you open your mouth more lies start creeping out!
#RIPPrince
#justice4cuz
#Dissingthefamilyagain
#Abouttobeexposed
#Thetruthdoesntneedlies"

I wonder who is he talking about? Who has been telling stories? Someone commented as if he was talking in regards to Mayte, and his reply was:

"Ex-band member and that's all I'm gonna say at this point (this has nothing to do with Mayte)."

I had seen this and I believed at the time it was his response to a story that Andre Cymone told about P's first guitar (at the start of a live vid feed he did last Friday night). Apparently Chazz was miffed because he wasn't mentioned in the story and started throwing shade. Here is Andre's response: https://www.facebook.com/...nref=story

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Reply #413 posted 03/28/17 10:43pm

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Flirt1 said:
What is the Jehovah's Witness teaching on suicide?

i'm sure you know the answer to that, in any christian sect it's an abomination. I know about that, but I still think Prince was always really his own man deep down inside, always. He may have played the sex fiend when he was young and the religious zealot when he got old but the real guy was always underneath all of that. I believe he was growing away from the JW's and he was never strict to begin with.

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Reply #414 posted 03/28/17 10:47pm

PeteSilas

Mumio said:

MMJas said:

Chazz's post:

"March 19 at 3:26pm

Why do you tell stories cause every time you open your mouth more lies start creeping out!
#RIPPrince
#justice4cuz
#Dissingthefamilyagain
#Abouttobeexposed
#Thetruthdoesntneedlies"

I wonder who is he talking about? Who has been telling stories? Someone commented as if he was talking in regards to Mayte, and his reply was:

"Ex-band member and that's all I'm gonna say at this point (this has nothing to do with Mayte)."

I had seen this and I believed at the time it was his response to a story that Andre Cymone told about P's first guitar (at the start of a live vid feed he did last Friday night). Apparently Chazz was miffed because he wasn't mentioned in the story and started throwing shade. Here is Andre's response: https://www.facebook.com/...nref=story

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they all lying to one degree or another, not that it's all bad but its kinda a lie when all the people who've been badmouthing him for 30 years all the sudden talk positive about him, that's kinda a lie although somewhat understandable.

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Reply #415 posted 03/28/17 10:57pm

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PeteSilas said:

Flirt1 said:
What is the Jehovah's Witness teaching on suicide?

i'm sure you know the answer to that, in any christian sect it's an abomination. I know about that, but I still think Prince was always really his own man deep down inside, always. He may have played the sex fiend when he was young and the religious zealot when he got old but the real guy was always underneath all of that. I believe he was growing away from the JW's and he was never strict to begin with.

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Reply #416 posted 03/28/17 11:42pm

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It's a hurtful place, the world, in and of itself. We don't need to add to it. We all need one another. ~ PRN

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Reply #417 posted 03/29/17 12:00am

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fortuneandserendipity said:

laurarichardson said:
fortuneandserendipity said: --Yoh have no idea what is stituation was unless you have access to his medical file so who is being ignorant. Dependency or addiction? Look up Sherlock!

You keep getting hung up over the word 'addiction' and you always think you're right...

Apparently, he was. According to someone who KNEW him.

'I knew he was struggling': Prince's ex-wife speaks out about the pop icon's devastating addiction, secret overdoses and drug stashes

Prince's ex-wife Mayte Garcia has written a book about the couple's marriage
She describes a number of concerning incidents with the pop icon
The couple's child died just two days after he was born - which was said to have exacerbated Prince's addiction

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Reply #418 posted 03/29/17 12:04am

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It's a hurtful place, the world, in and of itself. We don't need to add to it. We all need one another. ~ PRN

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