Militant said:

Looks like it'll be on Apple as well

http://pitchfork.com/news/71224-purple-ads-hint-at-princes-return-to-spotify/


God knows what ridiculous idea Londell is trying to pull off , maybe he wants us to order Purple Rain deluxe from Electricfetus

jaawwnn said:

lakerlaker52 said:

jaawwnn said:

Looks like it'll be on Apple as well

http://pitchfork.com/news/71224-purple-ads-hint-at-princes-return-to-spotify/


God knows what ridiculous idea Londell is trying to pull off , maybe he wants us to order Purple Rain deluxe from Electricfetus

Interesting fact: Hit N Run Phase 2 has been available to stream on Apple Music since its release in 2015. That's how I've always listened to it.

no way! ha

I did indeed order it from electric fetus way back when. It turned up eventually, can't complain about about their service, but it felt a little bit backward to have to do that from the other side of the Atlantic.

lakerlaker52 said:

jaawwnn said:

Prince's music was on Spotify for quite some time anyway.

rogifan said:

Ugot2shakesumthin said:

Especially when no one but Youtube makes money off the music put on there without permission.

Not quite. YouTube and Spotify have deals in place with major labels and an umbrella company representing the indies - the labels get a huge amount of money every year for the music being used, essentially ad revenue money. But this money is NOT passed onto the artists/songwriters - they're not even breaking the contract they have with artists, as this isn't mentioned in the contract. This is where I feel Prince had a major issue with streaming services. I'm sure he was certainly against someone uploading his music without consent, but he was not seeing any of that money that WB got upfront from Spotify or YouTube.

For that lump sum, YouTube are pretty much allowed to do what they want, hence the reason why you see full albums being streamed, tacitly approved by the labels.

If you see an artist speaking out in favour of Spotify, you can bet that they're probably getting a backhander from the label, essentially some of that upfront money.

Bono and Quincy Jones are very pro-Spotify. They would be, what with being investors in it.

I'm sure Prince was trying to sort out a deal to be paid upfront by these services for his music to be used. So perhaps, what we're seeing now is the estate doing what he wanted anyway.

i have to agree...i have also bought albums after listening to them on spotify or getting it off shazaam. Streaming is huge on the young listeners and its almost a year into his passing. People are going to be wanting to stream all his music again soon.

Re an advance, well, the labels are getting better than that, they're getting big money upfront.

The major problem for the music industry is what happens when adrev money runs out. People don't like internet ads. It will happen, and sooner than the industry probably thinks...

I'm just hoping whatever happens go through without much drama.

jjam said:

Seems to me that Spotify and/or others will attempt a grab of income from Prince's catalogue by streaming it, even if a court later confirms Tidal's exclusive rights.
It's in one way sad that his work is in an apparent limbo with nobody showing definitive ownership.

Contrarily, this may lead to huge profile for Prince.
It matters not to him, obviously.
But Tidal is now going to be wishing it had used its erstwhile rights much more sensationally.
I think Spotify will cash in, the accounting for that will be typically 'record-business with added digital' (meaning that the old 'out the backdoor' techniques are used and then some) and a judge deciding later that they shouldn't have done it will be the definition of 'academic'

XSX said:

Seems to me that Spotify and/or others will attempt a grab of income from Prince's catalogue by streaming it, even if a court later confirms Tidal's exclusive rights.
It's in one way sad that his work is in an apparent limbo with nobody showing definitive ownership.

Contrarily, this may lead to huge profile for Prince.
It matters not to him, obviously.
But Tidal is now going to be wishing it had used its erstwhile rights much more sensationally.
I think Spotify will cash in, the accounting for that will be typically 'record-business with added digital' (meaning that the old 'out the backdoor' techniques are used and then some) and a judge deciding later that they shouldn't have done it will be the definition of 'academic'

Mebbe the attention that will come from all the streaming sites jockeying for position will be good for sales?

I dunno.

^ Yes, I thought Tidal/Jay Z claimed they already had an exclusive streaming deal with Prince?

Is the estate taking the position that somehow the agreement no longer applies?

Actually, weren't they arguing there was no documentation of an agreement, and/or that Tidal never made the payment they were supposed to?

Or maybe all this was settled and I missed it? Seems unlikely that Spotify, Apple Music, etc. would get involved unless they thought all the legal issues were sorted out.

TBH, all I really want to know is when previously unreleased material will be available, however they choose to release it. #openthevault

Ugot2shakesumthin said:

Prince’s catalog to hit all streaming services on February 12th

http://consequenceofsound...uary-12th/

I'll be interested to see if the cover versions by other artists reappear at the same time, trying to listen to albums with tracks missing is very frustrating, I love Alicia Key's version of How Come U Don't Call My Anymore. Yes I have the original CD but the convenience of streaming sometimes makes it easier to listen to what I want to listen to

rogifan said:

The New York Post claims streaming deal will go live on Feb 12. Will only cover WB releases at this point. That sucks because he has plenty of good music not released by WB.

It is only the Warner Brothers music. That kind of sucks. They are going to have to expand it to the later music if he is going to continue to get younger fans. Younger fans might like you as a nostalgic act. When I was young, everyone was loving on the Beatles(early 90s) but for him to continue to be relevent, people are going to need to see that he was capable of good work past his prime. That it wasn't just a fluke.

tab32792 said: