That's incredibly kind and encouraging. If you are up for buying the book, it will make us feel good. We are very fortunate to have other jobs -- if only we could spend more time doing them! Soon. Best to you.
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Thanks very much for these comments. Having the support of people like SqurrelMeat who are so knowledgeable has been a source of humbling pride in this endeavor. | |
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Yes, I'm up to buying the book(s)! Best to u as well!! Welcome home class. We've come a long way. - RIP Prince | |
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Thank you, SquirrelMeat, for these insights into rigor of research and far easier paths not taken.
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The prologue sounds very interesting. Looking forward to reading it. Already pre-ordered... | |
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Hello Laura. I just pre-ordered the book and look forward to reading it upon its release. | |
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. Nobody's going to buy a book about the post-WBR era except a handful of hardcore fans -- unless there is some major dish in there. Nobody cares. © Bart Van Hemelen
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. All of which had already been said by Alex and Laura here and on the Facebook page dedicated to the book. © Bart Van Hemelen
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"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato
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Make the house shake Awesome! Love the tittle. | |
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BartVanHemelen said:
. Nobody's going to buy a book about the post-WBR era except a handful of hardcore fans -- unless there is some major dish in there. Nobody cares. I strongly disagree with that statement.I believe only hardcore fans would even buy a Prince book. That being said I do plan on pre ordering this book very soon.I use to own the original "Possessed" book but it got misplaced. | |
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dance4me3121 said: BartVanHemelen said:
. Nobody's going to buy a book about the post-WBR era except a handful of hardcore fans -- unless there is some major dish in there. Nobody cares. I strongly disagree with that statement.I believe only hardcore fans would even buy a Prince book. That being said I do plan on pre ordering this book very soon.I use to own the original "Possessed" book but it got misplaced. I agree. I'm not a fan of the 90's music, but very little is really known about his life in this era. There seemed to be a lot of behind the scenes drama. And since it's a book with words instead of sound, it's all about reading it. I feel there is a lot to chew on. Sure it wouldn't be a feel good book, but there is a lot there. All the books so far have been basically to exploit the success of Purple Rain, so for the 90's era, there is a lot for agood writer to dig his teeth into. Mayte would be vital to getting this era told right. I always thought of the Prince story is in three acts. The rise (been told many times..) The 90's, like I said, a lot of heavy stuff to chew on emotionally and business wise. 2000- The redemption and reclaim of the tittle of the greatest live act and legend of our time. ...and it'll happen. Of course it will happen. Right now they are just exploiting the cream, but there is more underneath the cream. [Edited 1/28/17 12:26pm] | |
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How annoying that you've had to self publish considering some of the second rate dreck that's come out in recent months. I'm a little disappointed it ends where it does considering just how good DMSR covers that period but I'll pre-order this one anyway. Looking forward to it! | |
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I'm sure Alex can get more inside info now. All you others say Hell Yea!! | |
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EVERYBODY can. | |
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Hey guys, thanks again for your support and comments. We are now wrapping it up. I've been invitied to participate in a chat on the org on Wed the 8th at 7 pm. I look forward to speaking to anyone who can stop by.
Over at our Facebook group, https://www.facebook.com/...ofprince/, we now have images of the cover.
I am very appreciative of anyone who was pre-ordered the book. We are dependent on fan support as self-publishers. It's only the price of a sandwich for the book ($8.99 for the kindle edition). Anyone who orders by February 13 can have their name placed on a list of thank yous in the book. Just email us by that date letting us know you pre-ordered at theriseofprince@gmail.com.
I want to again thank SquirrelMeat (who has a passage or two of his writing in the book) and so many others who have volunteered analysis, information, and so much more. I really feel like this has been a group effort by fans. it started with a fellow orger and passionate Prince fan LauraTiebert approached me, along with SquirrelMeat and others, and moved forward from there.
I'm so exhausted finishing this up, but we're almost there.
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Alright, I've been holding my tongue on this since May... . Actions speak louder than words and I don't think I'll ever be rid of the bad taste left in my mouth from Alex Hahn crashing our mourning period two weeks in from Prince's death in an elevator, to start selling greiving fans on a new Prince book (a book that was being formulated on the fly, so it clearly did not appear to be an idea he had been working on prior to prince's death) in multiple volumes and extended books and however many literary vehicles he could squeeze out of the tragedy of our loved one and slap a price tag on. And had the nerve to deflect the obvious and warranted criticism of profiting off of Prince's death by throwing his own deceased family members (may they rest in peace) out there as human sheilds--feeling like a preemptive guilt trip. . Months ago he said in a post there really wasn't any new information, and now we hear there will be new info. Like I would pay a dime to someone who showed such massive and obvious disrespect to my loved one, and then come at me like I should pay them for plundering Prince's life to sell back to me information I already have been reading in books and mags over these many years. Post 1988 years would have been great for us--for fans--to have been explored in a book, but really, where's the money to be made on Prince's more obscure years when his music fell from the charts and he was essentially rendered invisible to the massess? Who other than the fringe die-hards would clambor to pay for a 1990's on up Prince bio? Hahn's latest book in no way appears to reflect the author's desire to do justice to Prince's musical legacy, but instead takes on the appearance of being designed with maximizing profit as its primary goal, and for that you need to cover the 80's period of his career that the far more substantial numbers of Purple Rain fans would potentially buy. . I can better appreciate now why Prince railed throughout his life against people profiting off of him and his image. . I'm sure Hahn's a fine writer and researcher. Had he gone about this book(s) a different way, I would buy it in good conscience. But since day one the process has come off as so in-your-face disingenuous and opportunistic. That's honestly how it feels to me and I can't shake it. So I have no desire or intention to buy any of his books. I get pissed off I get every time I see another thread on here about this book, drumming up pre-orders and priming us to get our wallets ready. I've not seen such an agressive post-4/21 push on fans to buy a product from any other writer. It's been bothering me for 10 damn months. If I don't get this off my chest I'm gonna get a stress headache and that'll really make me start cussing, and U know Prince don't like salty talk on holy days.
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Plus, anything having to do with promoting Paisley Park events and merchandise is buried on other forums, like the marketplace or Fan Gatherings. Lastly, I have not read the book, but I've read some reviews that indicate that Possessed presented Prince in a very unfavorable light, while glorifying the Revolution. Will this book be more of the same? | |
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Speak for yourself, jackass. As hard as it may seem, there is an audience that would read about Prince's life and career after Prince got out of his contract with Warner Bros in 1996. Particularly, how he pioneered direct-to-consumer marketing of his music, organizing the public appearances that would lead to his resurgence of popularity in the mainstream in 2004, his legendary halftime show at the Super Bowl in 2007 that was the culmination of the most people he would perform for. 3121 #1 THIS YEAR | |
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bashraka said:
Speak for yourself, jackass. As hard as it may seem, there is an audience that would read about Prince's life and career after Prince got out of his contract with Warner Bros in 1996. Particularly, how he pioneered direct-to-consumer marketing of his music, organizing the public appearances that would lead to his resurgence of popularity in the mainstream in 2004, his legendary halftime show at the Super Bowl in 2007 that was the culmination of the most people he would perform for. Thank you!!! I couldn't have said it better | |
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dance4me3121 said: bashraka said:
Speak for yourself, jackass. As hard as it may seem, there is an audience that would read about Prince's life and career after Prince got out of his contract with Warner Bros in 1996. Particularly, how he pioneered direct-to-consumer marketing of his music, organizing the public appearances that would lead to his resurgence of popularity in the mainstream in 2004, his legendary halftime show at the Super Bowl in 2007 that was the culmination of the most people he would perform for. Thank you!!! I couldn't have said it better [Edited 2/7/17 20:17pm] | |
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Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise. | |
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AMEN!!!! This book project has no sense of decency.
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No one has said it better than you, Bluu.
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. Well, you clearly wasted a lot of time holding your tongue. The guy is not going to make any money off this book. Don't be naive. Your rant is uncalled for and silly and, frankly, tacky. I'm sure Prince's death affected him deeply and reignited his interest in a subject he OBVIOUSLY had previously invested considerable time and effort (having already written a book on the man). He has no hidden agenda. He just wants to play a part - however small - in the sustainability of Prince's legacy. To think otherwise is utterly daft. And everyone giving you an "attaboy" for your turgid post is just as clueless and offbase as you are.
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Ouch. To have it thrown back in my face that I mentioned the passing of my mother as inspiration for doing this hurts, to say I have used her as "a human shield," wow, it's amazing that someone would say something like that. As for the money/profit thing....sorry, there isn't any. It's a hobby, a labor of love. This is a self-published book. The record will reflect that I haven't said a mean word about anyone. I've had some of the most longstanding, serious Prince fans on the planet -- and there are tons who know more than me -- come forth with ideas, drafting assistance, introductions, encouragement, and friendship. I've shared ideas with other folks writing books, and they with me. If I hadn't come on the org again, I never would have met LauraTiebert, who is one of the kindest, most genuine people I could imagine working with, and who has enriched this project beyond anything I could have imagined. Bluu, if you want a free copy of the ebook, I will send it to you. Just give me an email address. But please try to be just a tiny bit nicer, especially about my mother. I'm dedicating the book to her, by the way. | |
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I bought (pre-ordered) the e-book and I thank you for your hard work sincerely. | |
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For the record, you were not the only one taken to task either. People much closer to Prince than yourself were looked upon as insensitive at best for the poor timing of their various projects. Perhaps your not so flattering portrayal of him the first time around had something to do with it as well? Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise. | |
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brassneck said:
. Well, you clearly wasted a lot of time holding your tongue. The guy is not going to make any money off this book. Don't be naive. Your rant is uncalled for and silly and, frankly, tacky. I'm sure Prince's death affected him deeply and reignited his interest in a subject he OBVIOUSLY had previously invested considerable time and effort (having already written a book on the man). He has no hidden agenda. He just wants to play a part - however small - in the sustainability of Prince's legacy. To think otherwise is utterly daft. And everyone giving you an "attaboy" for your turgid post is just as clueless and offbase as you are.
If he has no hidden agenda why was the third thing out his mouth in the Mike Dean podcast about drugs? Why don't you try to find out about P's health issues which may have caused him to use drugs in the first place was he a victim of a quack doctor or big Pharma. I do not expect compassion from this guy just the same old vultures. I understand why Prince wanted to be buried face down so the world could kiss his ass. [Edited 2/9/17 18:53pm] | |
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The way I see it... After Prince passed, all of his albums and anything Prince related, including books, were being sold on Ebay for ridiculous prices. Many fans, both old and new, or even just the curious, wanted to buy a Prince biography.
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