I think its kind of sad, what made tidal so bad? Prince was happy with the set up. No way would he have let them have all those albums if he wasnt.

Do you know when it was taken off the service. I imagine it is related to the legal dispute between Tidal and estate that was publicized a few days ago, and the estate's desire to have his music on the more subscrbed to services.

I've still got what's been up the last few weeks. What do you have left?

Hmm. I still have access to a lot of Prince on Tidal.

Here are the albums that have been removed from mine:

Crystal Ball

Emancipation

Musicology

3121

One Night Alone

One Night Alone...Live

I'm going to do this everytime somebody starts one of these threads...


Just checked my shelf, ALL of my CDs & LPs are still there.

Just checked my iPod, ALL of my rips of my CDS are still there.

I just can't feel sorry for anyone that trusts a streaming service and the whims of copyright holders with their "collection" of music. If you don't at least have digital backups then what do you expect.

I'm not trying to be an ass and make fun of anyone. I'd much rather help awaken people to the reality that trusting a streaming service is not the way to build a collection. Buy CDs & LPS and make digital backups or buy downloads and back them up. You never know when music, especially Prince's music, will not be available to stream.

Just sayin'...

Nobody uses Tidal.

I'm excited for people to discover Prince on Spotify.

djThunderfunk said:

I'm going to do this everytime somebody starts one of these threads...


Just checked my shelf, ALL of my CDs & LPs are still there.

Just checked my iPod, ALL of my rips of my CDS are still there.

I just can't feel sorry for anyone that trusts a streaming service and the whims of copyright holders with their "collection" of music. If you don't at least have digital backups then what do you expect.

I'm not trying to be an ass and make fun of anyone. I'd much rather help awaken people to the reality that trusting a streaming service is not the way to build a collection. Buy CDs & LPS and make digital backups or buy downloads and back them up. You never know when music, especially Prince's music, will not be available to stream.

Just sayin'...

That's not the point of this thread though. It's relevant in today's market where his music is available to stream, and the removal of albums also throws up interesting questions as to what is going on behind the scenes.

brassneck said:

Hmm. I still have access to a lot of Prince on Tidal.

Here are the albums that have been removed from mine:

Crystal Ball

Emancipation

Musicology

3121

One Night Alone

One Night Alone...Live

I find it strange that The Truth would be on there and not Crystal Ball.

djThunderfunk said:

I'm going to do this everytime somebody starts one of these threads...


Just checked my shelf, ALL of my CDs & LPs are still there.

Just checked my iPod, ALL of my rips of my CDS are still there.

I just can't feel sorry for anyone that trusts a streaming service and the whims of copyright holders with their "collection" of music. If you don't at least have digital backups then what do you expect.

I'm not trying to be an ass and make fun of anyone. I'd much rather help awaken people to the reality that trusting a streaming service is not the way to build a collection. Buy CDs & LPS and make digital backups or buy downloads and back them up. You never know when music, especially Prince's music, will not be available to stream.

Just sayin'...

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It's not a matter of trust or collection building for most people. That's a wrongheaded, anachronistic attitude. It's a matter of convenience. Also, newer more casual fans don't instantly have "everything," so it's a bummer for them when the streaming access disappears.

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You still use an iPod? Hahahahahahaha. What's up, 2007? I have everything uploaded to Google Music for streaming access from any device at my discretion, which is free. I also have Tidal (because I get the premium version for $5 a month as a member of Jack White's Vault). Tidal is just easier to access Prince for now. But I always have a backup plan.

leecaldon said:

djThunderfunk said:

I'm going to do this everytime somebody starts one of these threads...


Just checked my shelf, ALL of my CDs & LPs are still there.

Just checked my iPod, ALL of my rips of my CDS are still there.

I just can't feel sorry for anyone that trusts a streaming service and the whims of copyright holders with their "collection" of music. If you don't at least have digital backups then what do you expect.

I'm not trying to be an ass and make fun of anyone. I'd much rather help awaken people to the reality that trusting a streaming service is not the way to build a collection. Buy CDs & LPS and make digital backups or buy downloads and back them up. You never know when music, especially Prince's music, will not be available to stream.

Just sayin'...

That's not the point of this thread though. It's relevant in today's market where his music is available to stream, and the removal of albums also throws up interesting questions as to what is going on behind the scenes.

Fair enough. It IS indeed relevant. However there are always some in these threads that depend entirely on Tidal for their Prince fix, and it is not unusual for them to fuss over not having access to certain music anymore. To them I will continue to argue: never trust a streaming service. If you want to use one, great, just don't depend on them as your only source for Prince music.

As for behind the scenes stuff about the estate & Tidal, there's already a thread for that.

brassneck said:

djThunderfunk said:

I'm going to do this everytime somebody starts one of these threads...


Just checked my shelf, ALL of my CDs & LPs are still there.

Just checked my iPod, ALL of my rips of my CDS are still there.

I just can't feel sorry for anyone that trusts a streaming service and the whims of copyright holders with their "collection" of music. If you don't at least have digital backups then what do you expect.

I'm not trying to be an ass and make fun of anyone. I'd much rather help awaken people to the reality that trusting a streaming service is not the way to build a collection. Buy CDs & LPS and make digital backups or buy downloads and back them up. You never know when music, especially Prince's music, will not be available to stream.

Just sayin'...

.

It's not a matter of trust or collection building for most people. That's a wrongheaded, anachronistic attitude. It's a matter of convenience. Also, newer more casual fans don't instantly have "everything," so it's a bummer for them when the streaming access disappears.

.

You still use an iPod? Hahahahahahaha. What's up, 2007? I have everything uploaded to Google Music for streaming access from any device at my discretion, which is free. I also have Tidal (because I get the premium version for $5 a month as a member of Jack White's Vault). Tidal is just easier to access Prince for now. But I always have a backup plan.

See, you are laughing, but my music is still on there.

I don't use ANY streaming service, it's like radio or renting music to me. I have everything I want on the shelf and/or ripped to the iPod.

I don't depend on a connection, or changing copyrights, or anything else. It's all on the iPod. And backed up. And on the shelf.

As for newer fans, they can START collecting CDs, or vinyl, or at least START buying downloads of out of print albums. The more they collect the less they risk losing.

djThunderfunk said:

djThunderfunk said:

brassneck said:

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It's not a matter of trust or collection building for most people. That's a wrongheaded, anachronistic attitude. It's a matter of convenience. Also, newer more casual fans don't instantly have "everything," so it's a bummer for them when the streaming access disappears.

.

You still use an iPod? Hahahahahahaha. What's up, 2007? I have everything uploaded to Google Music for streaming access from any device at my discretion, which is free. I also have Tidal (because I get the premium version for $5 a month as a member of Jack White's Vault). Tidal is just easier to access Prince for now. But I always have a backup plan.

See, you are laughing, but my music is still on there.

I don't use ANY streaming service, it's like radio or renting music to me. I have everything I want on the shelf and/or ripped to the iPod.

I don't depend on a connection, or changing copyrights, or anything else. It's all on the iPod. And backed up. And on the shelf.

As for newer fans, they can START collecting CDs, or vinyl, or at least START buying downloads of out of print albums. The more they collect the less they risk losing.

.

It's not "like renting" it is IS renting. But it's also the future. Owning things is the attitude of the olds. You can have a "get off my lawn" attitude, but the kids do not care about ownership. At the end of the day, lack of streaming access hurts Prince.

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I have obsessive, expansive Prince collections on cassette, vinyl, and cd, but I am not normal, nor am I the future.

djThunderfunk said:

brassneck said:

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It's not a matter of trust or collection building for most people. That's a wrongheaded, anachronistic attitude. It's a matter of convenience. Also, newer more casual fans don't instantly have "everything," so it's a bummer for them when the streaming access disappears.

.

You still use an iPod? Hahahahahahaha. What's up, 2007? I have everything uploaded to Google Music for streaming access from any device at my discretion, which is free. I also have Tidal (because I get the premium version for $5 a month as a member of Jack White's Vault). Tidal is just easier to access Prince for now. But I always have a backup plan.

See, you are laughing, but my music is still on there.

I don't use ANY streaming service, it's like radio or renting music to me. I have everything I want on the shelf and/or ripped to the iPod.

I don't depend on a connection, or changing copyrights, or anything else. It's all on the iPod. And backed up. And on the shelf.

As for newer fans, they can START collecting CDs, or vinyl, or at least START buying downloads of out of print albums. The more they collect the less they risk losing.

Yes, djThunderfunk. You forgot to add that you're saving yourself from the constant payment of streaming fees that more than overtake the cost of a one-time item purchase over time. You really do pay for that convenience of having everything at your fingertips all the time (that you are in reach of a wifi signal). And you may REALLY need your Prince tunes when you are out of reach of wifi!

I hope that Tidal puts the Prince music that they're licensed to stream back on ASAP.

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I wonder whether the takedowns are a result of legal contestations, however.

djThunderfunk said:

brassneck said:

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You still use an iPod? Hahahahahahaha. What's up, 2007?

See, you are laughing, but my music is still on there.

I still have my iPod Classic and yes, I still use it It has my entire music collection on it.I'm happy,lol.

What's new? TIDAL is the worst streaming service out there.

Prince made a huge mistake with them. Jay Z only cares about $ and it was a matter of time before Prince left Tidal too.

Anyways, i don't use streaming, only Youtube for videos, i buy physical copies (because sometimes it's even cheaper than digital ones) and rip them. So i get 2 for the price of 1.

And my music is always available.

Sorry for the Tidal lovers, but it will go nowhere. It has like 1m listeners while Spotify has 100m.

brassneck said:

djThunderfunk said:

See, you are laughing, but my music is still on there.

I don't use ANY streaming service, it's like radio or renting music to me. I have everything I want on the shelf and/or ripped to the iPod.

I don't depend on a connection, or changing copyrights, or anything else. It's all on the iPod. And backed up. And on the shelf.

As for newer fans, they can START collecting CDs, or vinyl, or at least START buying downloads of out of print albums. The more they collect the less they risk losing.

.

It's not "like renting" it is IS renting. But it's also the future. Owning things is the attitude of the olds. You can have a "get off my lawn" attitude, but the kids do not care about ownership. At the end of the day, lack of streaming access hurts Prince.

.

I have obsessive, expansive Prince collections on cassette, vinyl, and cd, but I am not normal, nor am I the future.

So sad--and of course the weakend state of our economy has given those with less achievement as their standard a reason to adopt such a stance. It's artificial, though, I think. Unfortunately, this state of mind feeds the oligarchic tendancies of our current state-of-being. Kinda like saying, "I like my poverty and servitude!"

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I guess I need to shaddup on that yap, though, because I'm not trying to hijack a thread.

Such fools, it's not April yet!

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All music on Tidal is still there.

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They have even added TTC into the store!

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Lord almighty me, what is wrong with some people.

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^^^What is TTC?

Tokyo said:

djThunderfunk said:

Germanegro said:

Germanegro said:

djThunderfunk said:

See, you are laughing, but my music is still on there.

I don't use ANY streaming service, it's like radio or renting music to me. I have everything I want on the shelf and/or ripped to the iPod.

I don't depend on a connection, or changing copyrights, or anything else. It's all on the iPod. And backed up. And on the shelf.

As for newer fans, they can START collecting CDs, or vinyl, or at least START buying downloads of out of print albums. The more they collect the less they risk losing.

Yes, djThunderfunk. You forgot to add that you're saving yourself from the constant payment of streaming fees that more than overtake the cost of a one-time item purchase over time. You really do pay for that convenience of having everything at your fingertips all the time (that you are in reach of a wifi signal). And you may REALLY need your Prince tunes when you are out of reach of wifi!

One reason the music industry is in trouble is that it is much cheaper to stream music than own it. At £10/month to stream, that budget would allow just one album to be bought per month. I used to buy considerably more than that back in the day.

djThunderfunk said:

leecaldon said:

That's not the point of this thread though. It's relevant in today's market where his music is available to stream, and the removal of albums also throws up interesting questions as to what is going on behind the scenes.

Fair enough. It IS indeed relevant. However there are always some in these threads that depend entirely on Tidal for their Prince fix, and it is not unusual for them to fuss over not having access to certain music anymore. To them I will continue to argue: never trust a streaming service. If you want to use one, great, just don't depend on them as your only source for Prince music.

As for behind the scenes stuff about the estate & Tidal, there's already a thread for that.

Absolutely.

mikeyaddict said:

djThunderfunk said:

I'm going to do this everytime somebody starts one of these threads...
Just checked my shelf, ALL of my CDs & LPs are still there.

Just checked my iPod, ALL of my rips of my CDS are still there.

I just can't feel sorry for anyone that trusts a streaming service and the whims of copyright holders with their "collection" of music. If you don't at least have digital backups then what do you expect.

I'm not trying to be an ass and make fun of anyone. I'd much rather help awaken people to the reality that trusting a streaming service is not the way to build a collection. Buy CDs & LPS and make digital backups or buy downloads and back them up. You never know when music, especially Prince's music, will not be available to stream.

Just sayin'...

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agree!

Streaming services are not going to support artists. P knew that and railed against them (he'd not be happy with Tidal right now, either -- because he didn't know that Jay Z didn't really own it all). P got rooked on that one, too.

All my CDs are ripped onto three computers and two iPods, as well as back-ups kept in the cars.
We don't have wifi in our cars so why would I want to pay to stream?

want my own control.

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