malbena said:

rogifan said:

BillieBalloon said:

Mumio said:

babynoz said:

I seriously hope that people will calm down. This article explains the reason why divorces and other court proceedings are usually a matter of public record in a open society such as we have in the US. This is how our system works...there is nothing unusual about it.

Lol, people need to get a grip in my opinion, life is what it is. Every time something comes up, there seems to be this big freakout over it. People need to stop looking for reasons to be angry, upset, overwrought and so on and so on. And of course this news comes on the anniversary. It's interesting how every month something is released that usually causes upset.

Good point. It does seem that a lot of over reaction and manufactured drama keeps happening.

It is what is it. Why allow the divorce to be sealed in the first place and then 8 years later opening it. what is for reason? If Prince was alive this would not be on the table.

FlyOnTheWall said:

babynoz said:

Mumio said:

Lol, people need to get a grip in my opinion, life is what it is. Every time something comes up, there seems to be this big freakout over it. People need to stop looking for reasons to be angry, upset, overwrought and so on and so on. And of course this news comes on the anniversary. It's interesting how every month something is released that usually causes upset.

Good point. It does seem that a lot of over reaction and manufactured drama keeps happening.

It applies for any public figure. People feel a certain need to discuss private details concerning some they highly admire. There are so many reasons why they want to know...but I personally will advocate for safety first.

babynoz said:

BillieBalloon said:

BillieBalloon said:

malbena said:

Harassment is scary especially when you have two little ones you try and protect. There has been instances of dangerous incidents caused by hardcore fans. We need to take into consideration that even though we dislike someone, we also have a duty to protect them and their family as human beings. Judges should consider the safety of all stakeholders and I really hope he has thought of the consequences the release of the divorce could bring about.

The judge will have taken into consideration any impact on her and her family. Anyone who harrasses her is an idiot. If divorces are a public document how did Prince manage to keep them sealed?

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Sometimes, a Judge will grant the files to be sealed for whatever reason or for the protection of a child, etc.

rogifan said:

laurarichardson said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

According to the StarTrib, the file really doesn't contain much information, other than financials. We will probably learn just how big a settlement Mani walked away with in the divorce. My sources tell me that it is much more than has been widely believed. Perhaps there is even information about other potential heirs.

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http://www.startribune.co...407814536/

[Edited 12/21/16 16:11pm]

--Just makes the Star Tribune the assholes of the year. We know Prince made a boat load of money from that Musicolgy tour would not surprise me if she tried to clean him out. What need did the public have to know this? Just embarrassing for a major America newspaper to do this.

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Yes, it is indeed stupid what they are doing, not to mention disrespectful to Prince, as he is not here to defend himself. Prince and Mani had their divorce records sealed, and it should remain that way. A lot of high-profile & wealthy people do this, for obvious reasons.

laurarichardson said:

i feel sorry for ms. testolini and this is a shame. we don't have to read the contents of the file if we choose not to.

In the US most court proceedings are public record with few exceptions. Did you guys know that you can literally go down to the courthouse and see your neighbor's divorce file or criminal record. You can even find out how much they paid for their house.

We had government classes in school.

The judge is following the law without regard to a person's social status, which is what a judge is supposed to do. He already wrote in the legal opinion that he released that there was no sufficient grounds for the file to remain sealed. He specifically cited pertinient case law and the fact that the Ex put herself in the public eye as the reasons for his ruling. Have people forgotten that already?

When the American system works the way it's supposed to everybody is supposed to be treated equally and celebrities should not get special privileges except in rare circumstances.

God. I already want to send Manuela a ltter of support.

Really, what we need to do you guys is vow not give her any shit, no matter what the records say.

babynoz said:

In the US most court proceedings are public record with few exceptions. Did you guys know that you can literally go down to the courthouse and see your neighbor's divorce file or criminal record. You can even find out how much they paid for their house.

We had government classes in school.

The judge is following the law without regard to a person's social status, which is what a judge is supposed to do. He already wrote in the legal opinion that he released that there was no sufficient grounds for the file to remain sealed. He specifically cited pertinient case law and the fact that the Ex put herself in the public eye as the reasons for his ruling. Have people forgotten that already?

When the American system works the way it's supposed to everybody is supposed to be treated equally and celebrities should not get special privileges except in rare circumstances.

true that. a lot of this is even online now

laurarichardson said:

babynoz said:

I seriously hope that people will calm down. This article explains the reason why divorces and other court proceedings are usually a matter of public record in a open society such as we have in the US. This is how our system works...there is nothing unusual about it.



http://m.startribune.com/judge-orders-prince-s-divorce-records-unsealed/407814536/


Judge orders unsealing of Prince's divorce records

By EMMA NELSON , STAR TRIBUNE December 21, 2016 - 5:14 PM
+ Prince's 2006 divorce from Manuela Testolini will soon be open for public inspection, after a Hennepin County District Judge issued an order Wednesday unsealing nearly the entire file.


Still, whether tranquil or not, court records in Minnesota are typically public — and celebrity divorces are no exception.
"While most parties to a divorce would prefer that the details be kept private, the divorce process is a public one, requiring public courts and resources to manage the proceeding and either determine or approve the result as a just and equitable one," Fraser wrote. "The public has an interest in monitoring courts and their enforcement of divorce decrees."

No one really gives a fuck about divorce decrees unless it is their own. No sane person with P's wealth would have left the file open. You don't put your personal business out in the street.

What you fail to understand is that it is not up to Prince or me what gets sealed and what doesn't. It is up to the judge and he has ruled in favor of the Strib. It isn't a matter of sanity, it's a matter of law.

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babynoz said:

XxAxX said:

babynoz said:

In the US most court proceedings are public record with few exceptions. Did you guys know that you can literally go down to the courthouse and see your neighbor's divorce file or criminal record. You can even find out how much they paid for their house.

We had government classes in school.

The judge is following the law without regard to a person's social status, which is what a judge is supposed to do. He already wrote in the legal opinion that he released that there was no sufficient grounds for the file to remain sealed. He specifically cited pertinient case law and the fact that the Ex put herself in the public eye as the reasons for his ruling. Have people forgotten that already?

When the American system works the way it's supposed to everybody is supposed to be treated equally and celebrities should not get special privileges except in rare circumstances.

true that. a lot of this is even online now

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laurarichardson said:

babynoz said:

What you fail to understand is that it is not up to Prince or me what gets sealed and what doesn't. It is up to the judge and he has ruled in favor of the Strib. It isn't a matter of sanity, it's a matter of law.

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--You deserve a good cuss out for that response but instead I will educate you. I fucking know that divorce are public record. Prince or his attorney asked to have the records sealed. The request to have these docs sealed can be made as this was discussed on this board with links. He asked and he got it. Nothing to do with violating the law. You maybe the only person who gives a shit about his divorce because most people do not care about strangers divorce file.

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anangellooksdown said:

I've never cared about other people's finances one tiny bit. As for the rest of it, I believe it'll be uneventful.

Exactly.

malbena said:

babynoz said:

Good point. It does seem that a lot of over reaction and manufactured drama keeps happening.

It applies for any public figure. People feel a certain need to discuss private details concerning some they highly admire. There are so many reasons why they want to know...but I personally will advocate for safety first.

Perhaps, but people also discuss private details of the guy across the street, co-workers, church members, etc. It's what people do and it's not panic worthy. People have been discussing Prince's private business on the org since forever. I don't understand the selective outrage? (Generally speaking, not you personally).

Wasn't Mayte already threatened and had a bottle thrown at her? It doesn't seem that their safety is related to court records.

Prince died 'owing $600,000 in legal fees' following 2006 divorce from second wife Manuela Testolini

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It's possible Manuela was using the safety argument when her concern was really that the financial details in there would embarrass her in some way.

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Generally, I agree that any legal records that are public for "regular" people should also be public for celebrities. At the time of the divorce, the court allowed an exception to the law here (by allowing the documents to stay private) but that doesn't mean that the reasons for that exception should go on indefinitely.

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And it is a little funny to see some folks so upset by a 10-year-old divorce file being made public when I've read months of posts by some orgers who are incredulous that the full autopsy report -- a document that is both typically legally private as well as full of extremely intimate details -- isn't being revealed to all of us. C'est la vie...

babynoz said:

malbena said:

It applies for any public figure. People feel a certain need to discuss private details concerning some they highly admire. There are so many reasons why they want to know...but I personally will advocate for safety first.

Perhaps, but people also discuss private details of the guy across the street, co-workers, church members, etc. It's what people do and it's not panic worthy. People have been discussing Prince's private business on the org since forever. I don't understand the selective outrage? (Generally speaking, not you personally).

Wasn't Mayte already threatened and had a bottle thrown at her? It doesn't seem that their safety is related to court records.

rap said:

Prince died 'owing $600,000 in legal fees' following 2006 divorce from second wife Manuela Testolini

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.u...z4TXCQVi4y
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Shady ass Patrick Cousins creeping out of the woodwork now that the jailbird's case has been shut down and he's out of a client now.