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Thread started 12/11/16 12:22am

thebanishedone

Guitar playing during 3rd Eye era

3rd Eye was supposed to be ultimate rock show something like Funkadelic meets Black Sabbath.

Rock is about epic guitar solos so did Prince deliver?

In my opinion he didnt.I have heard and seen many performances by Prince and his

3rd Eye band

and his guitar playing was ofte sloppy and unispired and he let Donna

take over on many guitar solos like I Could Never Take the place and others,and she always played the same pentatonic solo over and over again.

Princes guitar playing from 3rd Eye era is far bellow guitar pyro

he did during the 2009 Montreux concerts or 2011,2012 concerts.and i dont know why.was Prince having arthritis and had trouble playing or he lost interest in guitar after so many years focusing on guitar.

Or maybe he just couldnt play that awful Vox guitar .

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Reply #1 posted 12/11/16 1:29am

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Respectfully, bollocks. He was playing with textures and runs I've never heard him do before, check out the chaos and disorder video from London, one of my favourite solos of his. Agree with Donna's uninspiring playing though!
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Reply #2 posted 12/11/16 3:06am

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Donna Grantis was well below par, but I'm guessing that's kind of the point. Prince is hardly going to invite some guitar virtuoso like Buckethead to join his band and show him up, so he hires somebody who is just about competant enough to sound half decent, to make Prince look even better.

Harsh but true.

[Edited 12/11/16 3:07am]

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Reply #3 posted 12/11/16 3:14am

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Reply #4 posted 12/11/16 3:20am

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wickyb said:

Respectfully, bollocks. He was playing with textures and runs I've never heard him do before, check out the chaos and disorder video from London, one of my favourite solos of his. Agree with Donna's uninspiring playing though!

Yes. Google or search twitter for reviews of his U.K. Shows in 2014 and you'll see a lot of best concert I've ever been to remarks. I have video from several of these shows and I think he was playing as well as he ever did.
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Reply #5 posted 12/11/16 3:36am

Marco81

MattyJam said:

Donna Grantis was well below par, but I'm guessing that's kind of the point. Prince is hardly going to invite some guitar virtuoso like Buckethead to join his band and show him up, so he hires somebody who is just about competant enough to sound half decent, to make Prince look even better.

Harsh but true.

[Edited 12/11/16 3:07am]


this must be one of the stupidest posts I've ever seen on here...get a life!
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Reply #6 posted 12/11/16 3:55am

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I couldn't disagree more.

At the London gigs with 3RDEYEGIRL in 2014, particularly Shepherds Bush, he played the best guitar I'd ever witnessed from him with plenty of 'epic' solos.

Shepherds Bush remains the greatest concert I've ever seen by Prince or any other artist. And I've seen Prince live himself about 30 times starting from 1993.
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Reply #7 posted 12/11/16 4:16am

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Marco81 said:

MattyJam said:

Donna Grantis was well below par, but I'm guessing that's kind of the point. Prince is hardly going to invite some guitar virtuoso like Buckethead to join his band and show him up, so he hires somebody who is just about competant enough to sound half decent, to make Prince look even better.

Harsh but true.

[Edited 12/11/16 3:07am]

this must be one of the stupidest posts I've ever seen on here...get a life! [Edited 12/11/16 3:49am]


Hahaha... what are you, like 12 years old or something? Did I upset you by making critical remarks about your favourite popstar???

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Reply #8 posted 12/11/16 4:50am

Guitarhero

Another BS bait thread. biggrin

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Reply #9 posted 12/11/16 4:51am

Guitarhero

MattyJam said:

Marco81 said:

MattyJam said: this must be one of the stupidest posts I've ever seen on here...get a life! [Edited 12/11/16 3:49am]


Hahaha... what are you, like 12 years old or something? Did I upset you by making critical remarks about your favourite popstar???

falloff LOL when people are critical of your fav MJ ya'll get very salty as well. You do realise calling Prince a crap guitar player on a Prince fan site you might expect a response right.

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Reply #10 posted 12/11/16 5:09am

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rogifan said:

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yeahthat

So much disdain for this man Prince even after his death. sigh

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Reply #11 posted 12/11/16 5:27am

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Guitarhero said:

MattyJam said:


Hahaha... what are you, like 12 years old or something? Did I upset you by making critical remarks about your favourite popstar???

falloff LOL when people are critical of your fav MJ ya'll get very salty as well. You do realise calling Prince a crap guitar player on a Prince fan site you might expect a response right.

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I never said Prince was a crap guitar player. I said Donna was below par.

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Reply #12 posted 12/11/16 5:48am

rogifan

Guitarhero said:


yeahthat


So much disdain for this man Prince even after his death. sigh


Sorry I took the bait but damn sometimes it's hard not to. sigh
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Reply #13 posted 12/11/16 6:13am

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rogifan said:

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Damn skippy. WE CAME TO SHUT THIS DOWN! smile

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Reply #14 posted 12/11/16 6:35am

SPYZFAN1

I enjoyed what P did in 3EG. It was nice to see his guitar up front for once and hear him rock out....Was it my favorite project he ever did?..No. But I still enjoyed it.

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Reply #15 posted 12/11/16 8:31am

Noodled24

MattyJam said:

Donna Grantis was well below par, but I'm guessing that's kind of the point. Prince is hardly going to invite some guitar virtuoso like Buckethead to join his band and show him up, so he hires somebody who is just about competant enough to sound half decent, to make Prince look even better.

Harsh but true.

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Prince, the man who prides himself on having "the best band in the world", suddenly thought "hmm I better hire a 'just competant' guitar player otherwise they'll outshine me? There is no reason for that given the guitarists he's had in the past.

Donna is a solid guitarist. In some shows it sounds like her guitar is turned down too low. When I saw them in the UK she was on fire, playing her solos with her guitar behind her head. The only bad thing that could be said about Donna is that she isn't Prince.

The thing that bugs me about these kind of threads is that you can search youtube for any member of 3EG and find videos of them playing... Anyone got a video to back up this theory?

In fairness, the official live version of "Always in my hair" - you can barely hear her guitar, but during something in the water it's another story.

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Reply #16 posted 12/11/16 9:05am

thebanishedone

i never said that 3rd eye girls cant play

i said that Donna played the same solo every time.

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Reply #17 posted 12/11/16 9:15am

GustavoRibas

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I always dreamed about a rock guitar project and was excited when 3rd Eye project came out. But, after a while, I wasnt too excited about his playing. I prefer a lot more his Musicology-Lotus era, with the Fender.

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Reply #18 posted 12/11/16 9:16am

Noodled24

thebanishedone said:

i never said that 3rd eye girls cant play

i said that Donna played the same solo every time.

The solos she played would depend on the song.

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Reply #19 posted 12/11/16 9:17am

SomeSoldier

Watching Montreux 3 as I type. This thread is pointless...
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Reply #20 posted 12/11/16 9:45am

rogifan

Noodled24 said:



MattyJam said:


Donna Grantis was well below par, but I'm guessing that's kind of the point. Prince is hardly going to invite some guitar virtuoso like Buckethead to join his band and show him up, so he hires somebody who is just about competant enough to sound half decent, to make Prince look even better.

Harsh but true.


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Prince, the man who prides himself on having "the best band in the world", suddenly thought "hmm I better hire a 'just competant' guitar player otherwise they'll outshine me?

Donna is a solid guitarist. In some shows it sounds like her guitar is turned down too low. When I saw them in the UK she was on fire, playing her solos with her guitar behind her head. The only bad thing that could be said about Donna is that she isn't Prince.

As for Ida... you can search YouTube for "Ida Prince Bass Battle" and watch her kick Prince's ass.

The thing that bugs me about these kind of threads is that you can search youtube for any member of 3EG and find videos of them playing... Anyone got a video to back up this theory?


There's certainly video to disprove it.





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Reply #21 posted 12/11/16 10:12am

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I couldn't disagree more. At the London gigs with 3RDEYEGIRL in 2014, particularly Shepherds Bush, he played the best guitar I'd ever witnessed from him with plenty of 'epic' solos. Shepherds Bush remains the greatest concert I've ever seen by Prince or any other artist. And I've seen Prince live himself about 30 times starting from 1993.

This.

That Shep Bush show was insane.

Also the best concert I've ever been to - not just of Prince, but overall.

rogifan said:

There's certainly video to disprove it.

See the quote at the end of this video? I wrote that!!!!!! biggrin Originally posted on a now-defunct blog but archived here.






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Reply #22 posted 12/11/16 10:43am

rogifan

Militant said:



OperatingThetan said:


I couldn't disagree more. At the London gigs with 3RDEYEGIRL in 2014, particularly Shepherds Bush, he played the best guitar I'd ever witnessed from him with plenty of 'epic' solos. Shepherds Bush remains the greatest concert I've ever seen by Prince or any other artist. And I've seen Prince live himself about 30 times starting from 1993.


This.

That Shep Bush show was insane.

Also the best concert I've ever been to - not just of Prince, but overall.




rogifan said:


There's certainly video to disprove it.



See the quote at the end of this video? I wrote that!!!!! biggrin Originally posted on a now-defunct blog but archived here.







Oh cool. Damn I wish I could have been at this show. And it only cost a tenner to get in!
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Reply #23 posted 12/11/16 11:24am

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Look up the "Something In The Water" solo from the Mohegan Sun show. Will disprove this thread in only 2 1/2 minutes.
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Reply #24 posted 12/11/16 11:29am

Latin

Prince & 3rdEyeGirl were an amazing band.
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Reply #25 posted 12/11/16 11:31am

Noodled24

I hope full versions of these shows see the light of day.

When 3EG came onto the scene Prince changed. The Vegas-lounge arrangements went out the window and 30 year old songs started sounding fresh. Something in the water indeed.

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Reply #26 posted 12/11/16 11:33am

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MattyJam said:

Marco81 said:

MattyJam said: this must be one of the stupidest posts I've ever seen on here...get a life! [Edited 12/11/16 3:49am]


Hahaha... what are you, like 12 years old or something? Did I upset you by making critical remarks about your favourite popstar???

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Reply #27 posted 12/11/16 11:36am

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Reply #28 posted 12/11/16 11:39am

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Could the original poster point us to a specific song that they say was played well before 3EG and played badly by 3EG?


Donna's guitar playing was a specific kind of pentatonic rock guitarring alright, it wasn't Eddie Hazel stuff but neither was it meant to be. Did Prince ever state they were supposed to be Funkadelic meets Black Sabbath or did people just take that from "black man on guitar plays a riff lifted from Iron Man"?

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Reply #29 posted 12/11/16 12:06pm

Kara

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What everybody else said. The 3rdEyeGirl era was among my favorites because of Prince's guitar-playing.
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