thedance said:

teach49 said:

Purple Rain Deluxe? What is this of which you speak? I didn't know more was on the way...

NEW RELEASES : Hits compilation (+ Moonbeam Levels) in November, PR Deluxe in 2017


^ see the prince.org frontpage.

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Aaah, thank you. I must confess...I never actually look at the front page anymore.

But thank you for answering. I hope that there is something new in this deluxe version, something to make it worth purchasing.

EuanH91 said:

Alright, weighing in here...

Not too sure about these shows, personally. There are some great moments no doubt, and some of those horn arrangements are are real slick, but the shows seemed generally kinda tame and lackluster compared to the Prince I'm used to.. even of recent years. Nowhere near as "flat" as the 3EG shows (that SNL performance? Ugh) but definitely dull compared to the NPG shows of 2010/2011.

Did anyone else spot the sloppiness?! The start of Old Friends 4 Sale was weak (Prince shot the hornz a look) and the intro to Mutiny in Show 2 was just a complete shambles, as the 3EG and the hornz started playing completely different things. There were also a number of moments where P had to give the band multiple cues before he got what he wanted (Let's Work, notably) - and what was Donna playing in Cool?! Sounded completely wrong.

I know this sounds really nitpicky but it's the first time I've ever noticed such glaringly obvious horrible mistakes from any of Prince's bands.



Also, you guys arguing about whether P cried during The Breakdown? Just because it looked like he did doesn't mean he was actually crying. Prince is a consummate performer. His performances of the more "powerful" ballad type songs always lean heavily towards the theatrical/acting. His voice breaking, breath faltering, and him wiping under his eye is proof of nothing. This is what he's always done, it's all part of the show.

Exactly, I personally never cared for the theatrics. I found it really corny and beneath him but I always accepted the good with the bad when it came to P. That said I did see him tear up during the Celebration performance in 2001 when he played I Love U I don't Trust U Anymore

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Farfunknugin said:

EuanH91 said:

Alright, weighing in here...

Not too sure about these shows, personally. There are some great moments no doubt, and some of those horn arrangements are are real slick, but the shows seemed generally kinda tame and lackluster compared to the Prince I'm used to.. even of recent years. Nowhere near as "flat" as the 3EG shows (that SNL performance? Ugh) but definitely dull compared to the NPG shows of 2010/2011.

Did anyone else spot the sloppiness?! The start of Old Friends 4 Sale was weak (Prince shot the hornz a look) and the intro to Mutiny in Show 2 was just a complete shambles, as the 3EG and the hornz started playing completely different things. There were also a number of moments where P had to give the band multiple cues before he got what he wanted (Let's Work, notably) - and what was Donna playing in Cool?! Sounded completely wrong.

I know this sounds really nitpicky but it's the first time I've ever noticed such glaringly obvious horrible mistakes from any of Prince's bands.



Also, you guys arguing about whether P cried during The Breakdown? Just because it looked like he did doesn't mean he was actually crying. Prince is a consummate performer. His performances of the more "powerful" ballad type songs always lean heavily towards the theatrical/acting. His voice breaking, breath faltering, and him wiping under his eye is proof of nothing. This is what he's always done, it's all part of the show.

Exactly, I personally never cared for the theatrics. I found it really corny and beneath him but I always accepted the good with the bad when it came to P. That said I did see him tear up during the Celebration performance in 2001 when he played I Love U I don't Trust U Anymore

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That was crying not theatrics and he was not that theatical in a emotional manner. He joked around a lot more than any crying.

Farfunknugin said:

EuanH91 said:

Kara said:

EuanH91 said:

Also, you guys arguing about whether P cried during The Breakdown? Just because it looked like he did doesn't mean he was actually crying. Prince is a consummate performer. His performances of the more "powerful" ballad type songs always lean heavily towards the theatrical/acting. His voice breaking, breath faltering, and him wiping under his eye is proof of nothing. This is what he's always done, it's all part of the show.

Not during, but after. The song/performance was over and Prince was just sitting there pushing buttons on the keyboard in preparation for the sampler set that came next. There's no reason to be theatrical at that point. Also, if he was just acting, he'd want to keep attention on himself. Instead, he directed the audience's attention to the horn players while he got himself together. He appeared to possibly be blinking back tears, was wiping his eyes, contorting his face, breathing heavy, and continued to do so even after the spotlight was off him. When the spotlight hit him again at the beginning of "When Doves Cry", he yanked his hat down in front of his face and kept yelling for the lights to be turned off. It was an awkward few moments. Now, I don't believe this was evidence that he knew he was going to die, or anything of the sort, but he appeared to be upset about something. Apparently, "The Breakdown" was an especially poignant song for him...

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/features/a-final-visit-with-prince-rolling-stones-lost-cover-story-20160502 He ends by previewing a couple of songs from what will become Art Official Age, excusing himself from the room when he gets to the wailing ballad "Breakdown." The breakup-themed lyrics seem particularly personal: "I used to throw the party every New Year's Eve/First one intoxicated, last one to leave/Waking up in places that you would never believe/Give me back the time, you can keep the memories." Afterward, he confirms that the song comes from a "sensitive ... nude" place: "You could touch it and it would just hurt instantly."

Thank you I remember reading this he actually left the room when the song was played. That song was coming from a deep place and that give me back the time line shows deep regret about something.

The Breakdown - I shall have to watch it again as I only saw the clip on YT.

I have only watched show 1 in full so far. But I did notice in Show 1 he was wiping his eyes a fair bit too and I think because it was hot and sweaty - I actually noticed him sweating which you never see much with Prince - and he was having to dab his eyes I think because of the heavy makeup. The ladies would know what eyeliner and mascara feels like when you sweat. It is horrible and gets in your eyes and in show 1 I noticed often that his eyes were irriated and he would dab at them. So on watching the Breakdown from Show 3 I kind of wonder was it in fact makeup / sweat causing him to be irriated and wearing the hat just compounded it as it made his head more sweaty???????

Kara said:

anangellooksdown said:

Kara said: Nope. He was intentionally inserting emotion for show during the concert. During the interview you described below, yes, I believe he was emotional then. Maybe. Sometimes you can't recreate or hold onto the moment you wrote the song.

Why would the writer say he left the room if he did not and why would he make those statements about the song if the did not have some emotion over it? Just think about that for a moment.

The links that some of you will go to not see what I belive 24k people have viewed on YOUTUBE and many have commented on.

I saw him dabbing his eyes earlier in the concerts as well. But it just looked like sweat or eye makeup. This clip was different. He wasn't just dabbing. He was wiping and he looked stressed out. Also, keep in mind that crying would get makeup in one's eyes even more so than sweat would.

BTW,if you watch other clips like some of closeups during DMSR during the Musicology tour, he is sweating as well. Prince did sweat...LOL.

gollygirl said:

The Breakdown - I shall have to watch it again as I only saw the clip on YT.

I have only watched show 1 in full so far. But I did notice in Show 1 he was wiping his eyes a fair bit too and I think because it was hot and sweaty - I actually noticed him sweating which you never see much with Prince - and he was having to dab his eyes I think because of the heavy makeup. The ladies would know what eyeliner and mascara feels like when you sweat. It is horrible and gets in your eyes and in show 1 I noticed often that his eyes were irriated and he would dab at them. So on watching the Breakdown from Show 3 I kind of wonder was it in fact makeup / sweat causing him to be irriated and wearing the hat just compounded it as it made his head more sweaty???????

purplerabbithole said:

purplerabbithole said:

I saw him dabbing his eyes earlier in the concerts as well. But it just looked like sweat or eye makeup. This clip was different. He wasn't just dabbing. He was wiping and he looked stressed out. Also, keep in mind that crying would get makeup in one's eyes even more so than sweat would.

BTW,if you watch other clips like some of closeups during DMSR during the Musicology tour, he is sweating as well. Prince did sweat...LOL.

Prince did'nt sweat, he glittered...

anangellooksdown said:

Was at the Montreux 2013 shows and the first one was by far my favourite one. But I saw quite a few better Prince shows in my life over the years.

still the same ol story? after 9 pages? oh wow that's dull.

Kara said:

The YouTube video that I've seen posted elsewhere on the board is poor quality, and cuts off before the scene we're describing is over. People need to get the proper download. anangellooksdown said:

Ah Ok - I have only watched show 1 & 2 and only looked at the YT link shared here and you say it was cut off, so maybe that is why I thought sweat. LOL - but yes, he really does sweat diamonds. I can see now I will have to reserve my opinion to watch the whole performance.

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CalhounSq said:

You mfs make me CRAZY I believe he was truly emotional at the end of Breakdown - he was wiping tears, not sweat. I've seen him perform too many ballads - there's winky showmanship, & there's heartfelt emotion. This was the latter. Let's not forget he wrote it from a clearly vulnerable place, & when you access those feelings it can hit you hard, even in a room full of people. Dude was feeling that, beautiful performance (falsetto was a little gritty, but I dug it)

Co-sign

I finally finished watching all three shows and was disappointed in the first two since he does not play any instruments and they are slick, revue-like performances. Have to admit though the horns are impressive and it is a festive party atmosphere. Definitely agree it is a throwback to the Parade tour, only not as good. I did enjoy how uptempo the second show is though.

Now the third show is more my thing, lots of Prince playing, cool eclectic set list, plenty of guitar, vocals, and then plenty of funk heaped on the end to round it out. I agree Donna's playing is repetitive but overall I love this show, pro shot with great video/sound and he seems to really enjoy himself there and connect with the crowd. What more could you want? To me, considering performance, quality, etc., easily one of his best I have seen this century.

Stop hating on it haters. We are so lucky to have it available to us.

Peace and here's to a much less cruel New Year.

HardcoreJollies said:

...Stop hating on it haters. We are so lucky to have it available to us.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ THIS!!!!!!!!!!

HardcoreJollies said:

I finally finished watching all three shows and was disappointed in the first two since he does not play any instruments and they are slick, revue-like performances. Have to admit though the horns are impressive and it is a festive party atmosphere. Definitely agree it is a throwback to the Parade tour, only not as good. I did enjoy how uptempo the second show is though.

Now the third show is more my thing, lots of Prince playing, cool eclectic set list, plenty of guitar, vocals, and then plenty of funk heaped on the end to round it out. I agree Donna's playing is repetitive but overall I love this show, pro shot with great video/sound and he seems to really enjoy himself there and connect with the crowd. What more could you want? To me, considering performance, quality, etc., easily one of his best I have seen this century.

Stop hating on it haters. We are so lucky to have it available to us.

Peace and here's to a much less cruel New Year.

I remember a lot of the fans overthere felt like that after the first 2 days and were very happy when he picked up the guitar for the 3rd night. I personally preferred the first show though.

Serious said:

HardcoreJollies said:

I finally finished watching all three shows and was disappointed in the first two since he does not play any instruments and they are slick, revue-like performances. Have to admit though the horns are impressive and it is a festive party atmosphere. Definitely agree it is a throwback to the Parade tour, only not as good. I did enjoy how uptempo the second show is though.

Now the third show is more my thing, lots of Prince playing, cool eclectic set list, plenty of guitar, vocals, and then plenty of funk heaped on the end to round it out. I agree Donna's playing is repetitive but overall I love this show, pro shot with great video/sound and he seems to really enjoy himself there and connect with the crowd. What more could you want? To me, considering performance, quality, etc., easily one of his best I have seen this century.

Stop hating on it haters. We are so lucky to have it available to us.

Peace and here's to a much less cruel New Year.

I remember a lot of the fans overthere felt like that after the first 2 days and were very happy when he picked up the guitar for the 3rd night. I personally preferred the first show though.

So someone took a poll of the audience?

laurarichardson said:

Serious said:

I remember a lot of the fans overthere felt like that after the first 2 days and were very happy when he picked up the guitar for the 3rd night. I personally preferred the first show though.

So someone took a poll of the audience?

No but I was talking to many people at the shows and after the shows and nearly everybody I talked to felt like that.

Serious said:

laurarichardson said:

So someone took a poll of the audience?

No but I was talking to many people at the shows and after the shows and nearly everybody I talked to felt like that.

Okay so a few people told you.

OperatingThetan said:

Can someone explain to me where this comes from? It can clearly be seen on all three nights,

but I have never seen this behavior before on a concert, or on video.

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EG

ElGorillos said:

Show 3 is epic and along with 2009 Montreux is among the best circulating live performances available. The energy from Show 1 is great and I love the arrangements. Show 2 is similar to Show 1 and I was disappointed with a few of the repeated songs, but there are some gems like Shades of Umber that distinguish the show. The way he directs the band in the first two shows is admirable. I know some people are critical of Show 1 and Show 2, but I would also say that those shows are amongst the best circulating shows as well, but they do pale in comparison with Show 3 or 2009 Montreux.