He was a kook and a hoot

I've never felt P was weird, but I do think he was quirky. Lol

I've always felt that whatever he was doing was, for the most part, done with a wink and the general public was taking things waaay too seriously.

LBrent said:

I have to say that a lot of what he did bewildered me..though I put it down to his being highly creative, many things I just didnt understand..

slaVe on his face...I just didnt get it at the time....

Its only now after he has passed that Im starting to understand the depth of his character and the Genius that flowed through him...not only as a Musician

30 years ago, I might have thought him a little wierd...20 years ago quirky perhaps..

but now I simply see that he was more free than possibly anyone else I can think of...

The fact that he lived his life and continued his creativity without the use of Intoxicants which are another kind of enslavement, has made me see him with Awe and at times some reverence...

In a world filled with Drugs and Alcohol, he stayed Clean...

Now Thats QUIRKY....

Lovejunky said:

Quirky and weird are synonyms.

Genesia said:

Quirky and weird are synonyms.

Truth.

Not "So true" — according to a lot of peoples' differing opinions on that “fact”…

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Actually, Hendrix was doing the ejaculating guitar thing back in the 60s.

Both Keith Richards and Dave Davies have both been given credit for starting the seminal, "Dude Looks Like A Lady" schtick that so many others after them — {Bowie and Prince included} — eventually elaborated on.

Prince also aped quite a few of Jagger's moves in his very early performances. He out-Micked Mick himself in a lot of ways. The animal print BVDs was one of those ways.

I'd always suspected that Prince's uncanny Mick-mimickery was one of the many reasons that the Stones invited them to open for them back then.

Of course, Prince gave his schtick his own quirky twist. But there is something to the saying — "There's nothing new under the Sun".

I love how Prince felt so comfortable in expressing himself. That help me, as a person to be able to do the same thing. I'm not any where near "outrageous" as he was, however. He wasn't afraid of what people would think of him. He did what he did and he didn't give a f about it. People I know have said things about him that he's weird, queer, odd...but I loved it. He wouldn't have been Prince without being...Prince lol. I do not think he was weird. He was quirky, he was unique, he was open to express himself, but mainly he was Prince.

His weirdness with entertaining to watch, but to me, the fact that a lot of the weirdness (maybe not all of it) had some serious validity to it made him interesting. And the fact the weirdness wasn't through and through, it had moments. He was bold, it's how I see it.

phatphuk said:

khill95 said:

Lovejunky said:

Ignore d'Ignint™

So true about the drugs and alcohol thing. I'm a musician myself, I go to music school, and alcohol is almost like water to some of these guys. And the fact that there was an artist that lived without those unhealthy vices, is probably one of the MOST inspiring parts about him. You don't need to go on a billion drug trips to "get hip", or drink booze to "feel loose".

Not "So true" — according to a lot of peoples' differing opinions on that “fact”…

laurarichardson said:

TrevorAyer said:

hey now .. this is a PRINCE site after all .. the "dude" from smashing pumpkins was Jonathan Melvoin .. Wendy and Susannahs brother. He also played on PARADE (a prince record for all you non prince listeners posting)

and lets not forget the biggest hollywood phamacutical murder of them all .... MJ

i kinda think prince has some alchohal issues more so than any harder drugs .. and probably some prescription pills too .. i think it took hold when he changed to the artist

I have said for years sometimes he looks drunk in some photos and people in his circles have talked about his drinking and even P mentioned once when talkiing about how Larry G helped him with his alcohol issues but no one on this board will hear such a thing. P must be coke head

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Can we talk about this? I've never seen Prince look or act drunk, but maybe, that's just me wearing rose-tinted glasses.

What did Prince specfically say about Larry Graham helping him?

He was a pop star, so of course

I love his weirderness, what i can't get my head around is why the press said that Michael was weird when Prince was weirder, and even in his private life, unlike Jackson.

Sorry. I think the site's post editor mangled my post and made it hard to tell who was saying what.

I would like to know myself, exactly what Prince said to Larry Graham. Except I'm not the original poster of neither of those two posts..

I was only quoting them

One of the original posters is still active though. I'm sure they won't mind you nudging them for an answer.

I really don't see him as weird.


Of course everytime I say that, something does pop into my head he's done that makes absolutely no sense to me, so I guess my statement is a moot point.


But honestly, I think he was pretty stable, I think that about all you can wish for.




As far as MJ is concern, I just found out some of the earlier "weird" antics in the media, he planted himself, he didn't realize one day it would get really out of hand in the media. Which makes me give P the side-eye and leads me back to I don't think he was really weird, which then I think of something and the whole process starts again.

Quirkiness and weirdness are attractive to me, so if he was, I never saw it as something negative. I did, however, live through most of his career as a fan and can say that in my experience, especially during the 90s, a lot of people left Prince because of his behavior. And yes, I do recall the word "weird" being used, usually preceded by "too". But I think a lot of that was misunderstood by the general public. And it had an effect on the record reviews he was getting at the time, too. Anybody recall the Rolling Stone review of Chaos and Disorder? Doesn't matter, we have links for that:

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/albumreviews/chaos-and-disorder-19960822

Tell me that these few opening lines don't come with some pre-conceived notions about P. No way in hell is this person going to give the music a chance:

His ongoing war of protest and whining against his record label is also reflected in the photos adorning the pages of the Chaos and Disorder booklet: a syringe with a dollar bill rolled up inside, a toilet with a heart floating in the water, and the master-tape vault inside Paisley Park Studios, framed by gold records. Before you hear a single note, you're prepped for a halfhearted transaction from a self-pitying celebrity.

That's from the opening paragraph.

Prince was unique and unafraid to be himself. I think a lot of people who did not know or understand him would say he is "weird". Prince was bullied as a child, so I think with his musical success, he was able to be himself and express himself, which he probably would not have been able to do if he was not famous, imo.

I dunno about the alcohol thing. In Rick James memoirs he wrote about how "straight" Prince was and he said that one time he walked over to Prince and poured some liquor down his throat, and Prince did not like that. I believe Rick James, he did not BS about stuff like that. You never saw Prince doing the "party scene" and drinking and smoking. If he did, he sure hid it from all of us. Wendy even said that one time, she brought along a beer to rehearsal and Prince got so mad, he fined her!! LMAO!! Now, only Prince would do that!

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morningsong said:

rogifan said:

morningsong said:

I really don't see him as weird.


Of course everytime I say that, something does pop into my head he's done that makes absolutely no sense to me, so I guess my statement is a moot point.


But honestly, I think he was pretty stable, I think that about all you can wish for.




As far as MJ is concern, I just found out some of the earlier "weird" antics in the media, he planted himself, he didn't realize one day it would get really out of hand in the media. Which makes me give P the side-eye and leads me back to I don't think he was really weird, which then I think of something and the whole process starts again.

As quirky or odd as P might have been was there ever any real scandal or drama around him? Certainly nothing to the level of MJ or even Madonna or plenty of other celebrities.

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Yes! I've said the very same thing! You never saw Prince involved in any scandal, and with all the people he worked with and was acquainted with, that is pretty darn amazing!! He was a very private man. I don't know how he managed to do it, but he did. He wanted to be famous for his music, not for his personal life.

rogifan said:

morningsong said:

I really don't see him as weird.


Of course everytime I say that, something does pop into my head he's done that makes absolutely no sense to me, so I guess my statement is a moot point.


But honestly, I think he was pretty stable, I think that about all you can wish for.




As far as MJ is concern, I just found out some of the earlier "weird" antics in the media, he planted himself, he didn't realize one day it would get really out of hand in the media. Which makes me give P the side-eye and leads me back to I don't think he was really weird, which then I think of something and the whole process starts again.

As quirky or odd as P might have been was there ever any real scandal or drama around him? Certainly nothing to the level of MJ or even Madonna or plenty of other celebrities.

I think the only "weird" thing about Prince was his NEED to make music and perform. Outside of that he was just a quiet private neat guy.

cloveringold85 said:

morningsong said:

rogifan said:

morningsong said:

I think the only "weird" thing about Prince was his NEED to make music and perform. Outside of that he was just a quiet private neat guy.

Which fits in with his lack of sleep. I think he once told Mavis Staples that sleeping was a waste of time. Not for me. I need my sleep.

A whole lot of high profile people seem to say the same thing. Hence I'm not a high profile person.

rogifan said:

morningsong said:

I think the only "weird" thing about Prince was his NEED to make music and perform. Outside of that he was just a quiet private neat guy.

Which fits in with his lack of sleep. I think he once told Mavis Staples that sleeping was a waste of time. Not for me. I need my sleep

Confirmation that Prince was SUPER HUMAN .............http://www.businessinsider.com.au/sleepless-elite-2011-4

LMAO!! Yes, how could we forget Madonna's buns?

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It was cool when Prince did it, but people need to try something new! LOL

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rogifan said:

cloveringold85 said:

One of the reasons I'm a fan. Plus I think he just grew up and got wiser with age. This is what he told Entertainment Weekly in 2004:

“Look at this situation with the FCC after Janet: We’ve gone too far now. We’ve pushed the envelope off the table and forgotten there was a table. You can’t push the envelope any further than I pushed it. So stop! What’s the point?”

This is one reason I've never been much of a Madonna fan. At some point constantly trying to shock people is no longer interesting, or shocking. I see her in an outfit like this at the 2015 Grammys and just roll my eyes.