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Thread started 11/22/16 4:49pm

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YOUR Review of Prince 4Ever

I wasn't planning on buying this but, I, along with others would like to know from those who bought the CD:

Do the songs sound better than in previously released versions?

How's the flow?

Your opinion of it as a collection?

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Reply #1 posted 11/22/16 4:55pm

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I bought it mostly for an officially released version of "Moonbeam levels", plus I'm a completest. It is nice to have some of the radio edits on CD for the first time too. That being said, I like the extended versions and album versions of the songs a lot more. This is a nice collection for a casual fan who may not have all his albums.

[Edited 11/22/16 17:30pm]

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Reply #2 posted 11/22/16 5:02pm

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sro100 said:

I wasn't planning on buying this but, I, along with others would like to know from those who bought the CD:



Do the songs sound better than in previously released versions?



How's the flow?



Your opinion of it as a collection?



Imma wondering on the this cd of all the songs i already have just for one new release Moonbeamlevezs to experience my music heart for Prince His love of it to share with us for our remaining of our lives n generations n generations etcetera so to beyond to enjoy Prince4ever is the right name title so Touche #PRN FAMILY I Love U 4ever....
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Reply #3 posted 11/22/16 5:03pm

radicalrojo

The booklet cover should have been the overall cover. Very cool picture with subdued colors. I think it's decent as a hits collection, it's the first one I've bought so I don't feel as gipped as others might. The sound quality of 4ever is very meh besides Moonbeam Levels. The sequencing is fine but nothing will beat the Head to Do Me, Baby transition from The Hits/The B-Sides.

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Reply #4 posted 11/22/16 6:40pm

donnyenglish

Older songs sound a lot better like the Parade and SOTT stuff. Having a pristine copy of Moonbeam Levels alone makes it worth it. I do not like short versions of songs so that is very disappointing. Also, why give us the same version of Nothing Compares 2 U as The Hits? The booklet and photos are very disappointing. Rehashed stuff from The Hits. Dissapointing liner notes also, which makes me think this was not in the can and approved by Prince prior to his passing. He talked about a greatest hits package with liner notes written by him that provided some detail about songs.
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Reply #5 posted 11/22/16 8:59pm

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I wasn't planning to get it either. I don't have any of the hits albums since I already have all those songs in one format or another. But I just went out in a snowstorm to buy it. I wanted Moonbeams but I also wanted to support this record hoping it will help spur future releases. And it's a good record to play for company or when you're entertaining people who aren't huge Prince fans as its pretty chock full of his best stuff. I agree tho about the disappointment over the short versions. I'm not sorry I bought it tho even after sliding in the ditch on my way home Lol
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Reply #6 posted 11/23/16 4:45am

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It is great to have an official release that includes a lot of the 45 edits. However, it seems like it was put together a little too quickly. Lots of mistakes. Let's Work is rather odd that it doesn't fade out, yet it has the edits of the 45. Mountains does not fully fade out (like it was taken straight from Parade where Do You Lie comes in at the end of the fade). Head should have been segued into the next song instead of just stopping and sounding clipped off. And I have the opinion that like Purple Rain, there should never be an edit of When Doves Cry.

The positives for me: it is great to have some of these 45 edits on CD. And it is a nice surprise to have the U.K. Single mix of Gett Off. The track list order is kind of cool: not totally chronological, but still not totally random.
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Reply #7 posted 11/23/16 5:19am

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I'm a completist so anything with Prince's name on it I will have. I bought two copies of the uncessored version, and I also pre-ordered the digital download on itunes.

Moonbeam leves it nice crisp and clear- Glad it hasn't been altered in anway.

My problem stems from Gett Off, Now it's a nice suprise with the additional lyrics that we have hear on some remix's and on the Gett Off VHS video release. However, it is censored (although this is the UNSCENSORED Version), In the lyric " Now move your big ASS round this way so I can work on that zipper baby" ASS is omitted / censored out by a DJ record scratch. This absolutely ruins the song IMO. Especially Later on on SEXY MF, it says "SExy Mother Fucker" Plain as day unedited/ uncensored. Then In my name is Prince Shit, Dick, and Ass are censored again by the "dj scratch" sound. WTH? Why? It makes no sense. I'd think FUCKER is more offensive than dick, ass and shit. :O( It was very dissapointing. So then I checked the Itunes version, and yep it's censored as well :O(

I honeslty am starting to think that Prince did pick out the album cover, however I think maybe it was going to be for "BLACK IS THE NEW BLACK" and not a "greatist hits" package. I'm starting to think there are in fact Theives in the temple $$$$$$$.

This leaves me dissapointed as well as unsure of the future of Prince's legacy.

However, I'm an extremely thankful for the release, and appreciative of the efforts. I think that maybe the powers that be that are making these decisions, should consult with the FAMS, I actually think we could do a better job at this.

The hits/ the b-sides is the best hits package by far Hands down. Moonbeam levels is definately the highlight of this release.

[Edited 11/23/16 5:20am]

[Edited 11/23/16 5:25am]

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Reply #8 posted 11/23/16 6:16am

airth

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one2vibe said:

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My problem stems from Gett Off, Now it's a nice suprise with the additional lyrics that we have hear on some remix's and on the Gett Off VHS video release. However, it is censored (although this is the UNSCENSORED Version), In the lyric " Now move your big ASS round this way so I can work on that zipper baby" ASS is omitted / censored out by a DJ record scratch. This absolutely ruins the song IMO. Especially Later on on SEXY MF, it says "SExy Mother Fucker" Plain as day unedited/ uncensored. Then In my name is Prince Shit, Dick, and Ass are censored again by the "dj scratch" sound. WTH? Why? It makes no sense. I'd think FUCKER is more offensive than dick, ass and shit. :O( It was very dissapointing. So then I checked the Itunes version, and yep it's censored as well :O(

...

This leaves me dissapointed as well as unsure of the future of Prince's legacy.

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This is either a serious fuck up or a serious worry for future releases. I hope we get clarification from someone at Warner's about what's happened here.

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Reply #9 posted 11/23/16 6:29am

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It's going to be very hard to ever top The Hits/B-Sides. That is such a complete package (albeit with Batdance missing).

Ultimate was a very nice package too, bundled with a lot of the 12" mixes.

The Very Best Of was a waste (I never bought it).

4Ever is really just a delivery method for Moonbeam Levels. IMO, that could've been a single release but I get that they were trying to get a hits package out this year for the masses.

"Moonbeam Levels" is looking to be Prince's Lazarus, with talk of dying throughout (even though it was recorded well over 30 years ago).

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Reply #10 posted 11/23/16 6:37am

E319

I bought it for "Moonbeam Levels" but I gotta say, I'm very impressed. It does a good job of covering many of Prince's essential tracks.

The "flow" of the tracklist is excellent and works surprisingly well. I was just listening to it this morning and yes, as a hardcore fan, I notice the bits and pieces that are edited out of many songs that made me disappointed (like the "Don't worry, I won't hurt you..." intro to 1999 or the "Cat, we need you to rap..." part in Alphabet St.)... And with an artist like Prince, it is impossible to fit all of his essential songs onto 2 cd's... You would need a 4 or 5 cd anthology box set to truly include all his essentials, and even then that might be enough.

But for what this is, a greatest hits for the casual fan, I think it does an excellent job with the tracks it included (love that they included "Batdance") and having a high quality version of "Moonbeam Levels" is a real blessing. I'm glad I bought it and I'm looking forward to future releases from the vault!

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Reply #11 posted 11/23/16 6:42am

E319

Forgot to add... I love the remixed version of "Gett Off" that's included with some different lyrics. Yeah I realize it was probably previously released on the "Gett Off" EP or something (which I've hardly ever listened to) but it sounded new to me and it's awesome.

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Reply #12 posted 11/23/16 7:38pm

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E319 said:

Forgot to add... I love the remixed version of "Gett Off" that's included with some different lyrics. Yeah I realize it was probably previously released on the "Gett Off" EP or something (which I've hardly ever listened to) but it sounded new to me and it's awesome.



It is the U.K. Single mix. It was not on the EP.
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Reply #13 posted 11/23/16 10:03pm

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I never loved "The hits 1&2". I think the Prince pre-revolution and post-revolution is quite different and put a mix of those different sounds does not work. So, I like the 2cd of 4ever: there is space for Parade and Lovesexy era, Moonbeam Levels is a precious addition, the Gett Off single is a good choice, and yes, Batdance reminds the Prince extravaganza. I think the 2cd shows the range of creativity of Prince, from the Kiss falsetto to the funky-rap of Sexy MF. I'm not in love with the Nothing Compare 2U live rendition, maybe The Most Beautiful Girl in The World could be a better track to end.

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Reply #14 posted 11/24/16 7:24am

jdcxc

Disappointed by all the single edits...and there could've been a better choice for the first vault release.
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Reply #15 posted 11/24/16 7:49am

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Se7en said:

It's going to be very hard to ever top The Hits/B-Sides. That is such a complete package (albeit with Batdance missing).

Ultimate was a very nice package too, bundled with a lot of the 12" mixes.

The Very Best Of was a waste (I never bought it).

4Ever is really just a delivery method for Moonbeam Levels. IMO, that could've been a single release but I get that they were trying to get a hits package out this year for the masses.

"Moonbeam Levels" is looking to be Prince's Lazarus, with talk of dying throughout (even though it was recorded well over 30 years ago).




I second all of this. Well said. The Hits & B-Sides is stellar. Ultimate had some cool extended mixes. Very Best Of is a waste. 4ever is a nice compilation but can't touch the 3-disc awesomeness of The Hits & B-Sides.
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Reply #16 posted 11/24/16 7:51am

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one2vibe said:

I'm a completist so anything with Prince's name on it I will have. I bought two copies of the uncessored version, and I also pre-ordered the digital download on itunes.






Moonbeam leves it nice crisp and clear- Glad it hasn't been altered in anway.







My problem stems from Gett Off, Now it's a nice suprise with the additional lyrics that we have hear on some remix's and on the Gett Off VHS video release. However, it is censored (although this is the UNSCENSORED Version), In the lyric " Now move your big ASS round this way so I can work on that zipper baby" ASS is omitted / censored out by a DJ record scratch. This absolutely ruins the song IMO. Especially Later on on SEXY MF, it says "SExy Mother Fucker" Plain as day unedited/ uncensored. Then In my name is Prince Shit, Dick, and Ass are censored again by the "dj scratch" sound. WTH? Why? It makes no sense. I'd think FUCKER is more offensive than dick, ass and shit. :O( It was very dissapointing. So then I checked the Itunes version, and yep it's censored as well :O(








I honeslty am starting to think that Prince did pick out the album cover, however I think maybe it was going to be for "BLACK IS THE NEW BLACK" and not a "greatist hits" package. I'm starting to think there are in fact Theives in the temple $$$$$.







This leaves me dissapointed as well as unsure of the future of Prince's legacy.






However, I'm an extremely thankful for the release, and appreciative of the efforts. I think that maybe the powers that be that are making these decisions, should consult with the FAMS, I actually think we could do a better job at this.



The hits/ the b-sides is the best hits package by far Hands down. Moonbeam levels is definately the highlight of this release.




[Edited 11/23/16 5:20am]

[Edited 11/23/16 5:25am]




Why would you buy 2 CDs AND iTunes downloads? Seems like a waste to pay for downloads if you own the CD. Plus, Amazon gives you MP3s if you buy the CDs from them.
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Reply #17 posted 11/24/16 9:55am

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one2vibe said:

I'm a completist so anything with Prince's name on it I will have. I bought two copies of the uncessored version, and I also pre-ordered the digital download on itunes.






Moonbeam leves it nice crisp and clear- Glad it hasn't been altered in anway.







My problem stems from Gett Off, Now it's a nice suprise with the additional lyrics that we have hear on some remix's and on the Gett Off VHS video release. However, it is censored (although this is the UNSCENSORED Version), In the lyric " Now move your big ASS round this way so I can work on that zipper baby" ASS is omitted / censored out by a DJ record scratch. This absolutely ruins the song IMO. Especially Later on on SEXY MF, it says "SExy Mother Fucker" Plain as day unedited/ uncensored. Then In my name is Prince Shit, Dick, and Ass are censored again by the "dj scratch" sound. WTH? Why? It makes no sense. I'd think FUCKER is more offensive than dick, ass and shit. :O( It was very dissapointing. So then I checked the Itunes version, and yep it's censored as well :O(








I honeslty am starting to think that Prince did pick out the album cover, however I think maybe it was going to be for "BLACK IS THE NEW BLACK" and not a "greatist hits" package. I'm starting to think there are in fact Theives in the temple $$$$$.







This leaves me dissapointed as well as unsure of the future of Prince's legacy.






However, I'm an extremely thankful for the release, and appreciative of the efforts. I think that maybe the powers that be that are making these decisions, should consult with the FAMS, I actually think we could do a better job at this.



The hits/ the b-sides is the best hits package by far Hands down. Moonbeam levels is definately the highlight of this release.




[Edited 11/23/16 5:20am]

[Edited 11/23/16 5:25am]



You think that Prince would use an old photo for the cover of a new album?

Why do you think that? I can't think of one example of this in any previous album. All the ones he appears on are very contemporary photos.
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Reply #18 posted 11/24/16 11:28am

SoulAlive

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And I have the opinion that like Purple Rain, there should never be an edit of When Doves Cry.

I agree.On a compilation like this,they should always use the full-length album version of "When Doves Cry".It should be a crime to edit this song smile

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Reply #19 posted 11/24/16 2:25pm

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floralelephants said:

And I have the opinion that like Purple Rain, there should never be an edit of When Doves Cry.

I agree.On a compilation like this,they should always use the full-length album version of "When Doves Cry".It should be a crime to edit this song smile

It's a crime actually, here in Mexico they give you 5 years just for thinking about it.

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Reply #20 posted 11/24/16 2:27pm

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Se7en said:

It's going to be very hard to ever top The Hits/B-Sides. That is such a complete package (albeit with Batdance missing).

Ultimate was a very nice package too, bundled with a lot of the 12" mixes.

The Very Best Of was a waste (I never bought it).

4Ever is really just a delivery method for Moonbeam Levels. IMO, that could've been a single release but I get that they were trying to get a hits package out this year for the masses.

"Moonbeam Levels" is looking to be Prince's Lazarus, with talk of dying throughout (even though it was recorded well over 30 years ago).

I second all of this. Well said. The Hits & B-Sides is stellar. Ultimate had some cool extended mixes. Very Best Of is a waste. 4ever is a nice compilation but can't touch the 3-disc awesomeness of The Hits & B-Sides.

Nothing can, especially when it comes to the B-Sides disc.

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Reply #21 posted 11/24/16 3:42pm

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I won't buy this album although i am a completist as well.
This compilation is not for his fams, just to make some money for wb and his sister.
I bought Monbeam levels on itunes although i have it on bootleg.
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Reply #22 posted 11/24/16 4:42pm

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I'm a little confused by the reports above: is any version unreleased, as in a slightly different fade out or lyrics censorship, or were they all out already?

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Reply #23 posted 11/24/16 7:56pm

luvgirl

I'm happy I bought it. It had a few surprise tracks that I wanted to bog down apart from the hits. Nothing Compares to you with Rosie Gaines, Gotta Stop Messin About, and of course MoonBeam Levels. The sequencing wasn't bad either... Sound and fade out could have been a little crisper but overall I'm pleased.
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Reply #24 posted 11/25/16 6:57am

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luvgirl said:

I'm happy I bought it. It had a few surprise tracks that I wanted to bog down apart from the hits. Nothing Compares to you with Rosie Gaines, Gotta Stop Messin About, and of course MoonBeam Levels. The sequencing wasn't bad either... Sound and fade out could have been a little crisper but overall I'm pleased.
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Listening to it right (received the cd an hour ago) and so far, I have to agree with you. But I bought the cd for one reason only and that's a clean version of ML. So far, I'm pleased with the cd.
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Reply #25 posted 11/25/16 7:13am

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Its decent. But as others said it doesn't top the hits/ b sides.. even ultimate. No 12 in singles? Some the songs are a single edit. Why would you do that for a "greatest hits" album or whatever this us supposed to be? Why include Glam Slam and not I Wish U Heaven? She's always in My Hair & Erotic City should have been included as well. As far as sound quality It sounds like it's been remastered.
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Reply #26 posted 11/25/16 7:56am

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just spinning it as we speak. And to be honest, I am enjoying it. I think i am so used to the full or long versions that all these singles edits seem fresh and to the point! I think it will go down well with the casual Christmas shoppers and newbies. And hopefully bring in some new young fans. Imagine becoming a fan now! A whole new world opening up. I think am jealous! Its the perfect Cd for curious people who might wonder what all the fuss was about. So it that vein, its a success.

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Reply #27 posted 11/25/16 9:08am

BoraBora

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Mountains does not fully fade out (like it was taken straight from Parade where Do You Lie comes in at the end of the fade). Head should have been segued into the next song instead of just stopping and sounding clipped off.


I'm fine with the end of "Head", but the truncated fade out of "Mountains" is a great fault for a compilation like this.

I was expecting this release was curated by someone knowing P's music, at last.
Not a deaf "cut and paste" engineer.

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Reply #28 posted 11/25/16 10:04am

luvsexy4all

so whats the sales so far??

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Reply #29 posted 11/25/16 11:36am

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so whats the sales so far??

Apparently poor. No one can find it easily in the stores per the report of orgers, not in the top 100 itunes downloads as of yesterday, and doing best at Amazon CD and Records charts (#8 yesterday). Don't think this chart includes downloads so this will be a minor factor in the Billboard charts.
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