ChanGirl said:

I can't get past the idea that Prince would have anything more than a professional relationship with these girls at least - Andy and Judith - given the short amount of time he mentored them. Yeah, he was hot even at 57. But to actually sleep with a girl 30+ years younger than he was ? That would make anyone feel like a perv, even Prince. Don't you think he deserves a little more credit, as well as respect ? Could be he wanted a woman, not a girl - and that's why Appolonia was on her way to see him.

ChanGirl, if Prince wanted Appolonia, he had over three decades to make that happen. That's my first thought. Next, human beings over the age of 18 in America are considered men and women. So, if Prince was romantically involved with a twenty-something, it was a relationship between a man and a woman.

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Then, there's the fact that all we ever knew P to date was much younger women. That was apparently his preference. Prince himself was the product of a May-December marriage, as his father was his mother's senior by 16 years. That might have had something to do with shaping his view of such unions.

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Lastly, you are certainly entitled to your opinion on the matter, but I don't find his relationship with AA in any way perverted, nor do I find it disrespectful to explore its possibilities. In fact, I think judgemental comments such as yours might have caused him, at some point, to second-guess what they shared (which, if the photos are to be believed, made him blissfully happy). Indeed, he referred to trying to "fight it" in the lyrics to a couple of his later ballads on his flurry of albums during what I call the Andy Allo era, 2011-2016.

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The first such song that comes to mind is "Look at Me, Look at U" from 2015's HNRP2. One other song escapes my memory presently, but I will post it when it comes to me.

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"Look at Me, Look at U"

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...Fight it, yes, my soul has tried
When you look at me
All other women just roll their eyes
But even Ray Charles can see you
Stevie Wonder can too
Thoughts well up and wonder
Thinking about me and you
A dozen fantasies you
Call me won and done
When you look at me
Look at you, look at me

[Edited 1/9/17 2:54am]

He wasn't interested in Apollonia romantically or sexually. It appears he did become physically intimate with Andy Allo at least once that we know of, based on what she herself has implied in a recent Facebook livestream.

I don't know that I'd go as far as attributing the entire last 5 years of Prince's life as being the "era" of another human being as was introduced above, like the "Lovesexy Era" or the "Purple Rain Era", but in my opinion Andy Allo was a large inspiration for much of his later music. I believe that other people and events were, too.

I would also like to respond to the issue of age and maturity as discussed above. Most people don't understand this, but a man or a woman becomes a man or a woman not only because of his or her natural age, but because they have matured into a man or a woman - spiritually, mentally and emotionally. This is a spiritual principle. And it does take time. And also experience.

Regarding Prince's relationships, he was never one to allow others' opinions of him to stop him from being with whom he wanted to be with. He didn't care about such things; he was spiritually above this. If he was trying to "fight" his desire for someone, I believe it would be about other things. As I have stated before, there is the possibility that this was an obsession. I also believe that Andy was more concerned with her career or just not interested/as interested and was playing games (as he says in "This Could B Us"). If she wanted to be with him in that way, she was probably too inexperienced at life to know that situations do not always remain available forever.

Music was really Prince's only close, intimate, consistent, day-to-day connection to people because of the very private life he found he had to live. He also found he had to give back some of the enormous amount of love he received from us. It was too much love for one heart to hold. He found that one way he could do that - his favorite way - was to mentor young people in music. The young women he mentored shared a love for music/dance/the arts with him, which made this very fulfilling, and I can see how some of these relationships would become intimate. This was the case back to his very beginnings. One of the things that made me initially so sad after April was that before I "studied" or "researched" his life, I already knew in my heart that he hadn't met a woman such as I described earlier in this thread. I think it would've made all the difference in his life if he had someone he could grow with. This would be an already-matured but still fairly young woman who he didn't even know existed, because she was so special and unique that there are as few of her as there are Princes. This would have been a healthy, matured, equally-yoked relationship.

That doesn't mean he didn't love Andy, in fact I believe he was not only very happy during the time she was around (mostly 2011 - 2012), but he still loves her from where he is now. I have also seen very clearly what I have said about the woman he didn't meet. It just didn't happen, and there is a reason for that.

It is unlikely that my viewpoints, which I hope will offset some of the extremism that has existed in this thread, will be allowed to stand freely for people's consideration as so many other posts have. I will probably be dealt with very harshly - or at the least, others will validate each other in opposition to what I've said.

And that is okay.

I think a balanced, healthy, perspective ought to be expressed nonetheless.
[Edited 1/9/17 7:15am]

anangellooksdown said:

He wasn't interested in Apollonia romantically or sexually. It appears he did become physically intimate with Andy Allo at least once that we know of, based on what she herself has implied in a recent Facebook livestream. I don't know that I'd go as far as attributing the entire last 5 years of Prince's life as being the "era" of another human being as was introduced above, like the "Lovesexy Era" or the "Purple Rain Era", but in my opinion Andy Allo was a large inspiration for much of his later music. I believe that other people and events were, too. I would also like to respond to the issue of age and maturity as discussed above. Most people don't understand this, but a man or a woman becomes a man or a woman not only because of his or her natural age, but because they have matured into a man or a woman - spiritually, mentally and emotionally. This is a spiritual principle. And it does take time. And also experience. Regarding Prince's relationships, he was never one to allow others' opinions of him to stop him from being with whom he wanted to be with. He didn't care about such things; he was spiritually above this. If he was trying to "fight" his desire for someone, I believe it would be about other things. As I have stated before, there is the possibility that this was an obsession. I also believe that Andy was more concerned with her career or just not interested/as interested and was playing games (as he says in "This Could B Us"). If she wanted to be with him in that way, she was probably too inexperienced at life to know that situations do not always remain available forever. Music was really Prince's only close, intimate, consistent, day-to-day connection to people because of the very private life he found he had to live. He also found he had to give back some of the enormous amount of love he received from us. It was too much love for one heart to hold. He found that one way he could do that - his favorite way - was to mentor young people in music. The young women he mentored shared a love for music/dance/the arts with him, which made this very fulfilling, and I can see how some of these relationships would become intimate. This was the case back to his very beginnings. One of the things that made me initially so sad after April was that before I "studied" or "researched" his life, I already knew in my heart that he hadn't met a woman such as I described earlier in this thread. I think it would've made all the difference in his life if he had someone he could grow with. This would be an already-matured but still fairly young woman who he didn't even know existed, because she was so special and unique that there are as few of her as there are Princes. This would have been a healthy, matured, equally-yoked relationship. That doesn't mean he didn't love Andy, in fact I believe he was not only very happy during the time she was around (mostly 2011 - 2012), but he still loves her from where he is now. I have also seen very clearly what I have said about the woman he didn't meet. It just didn't happen, and there is a reason for that. It is unlikely that my viewpoints, which I hope will offset some of the extremism that has existed in this thread, will be allowed to stand freely for people's consideration as so many other posts have. I will probably be dealt with very harshly - or at the least, others will validate each other in opposition to what I've said. And that is okay. I think a balanced, healthy, perspective ought to be expressed nonetheless. [Edited 1/9/17 7:15am]

As I said to you on that other thread where you were stalking me, Angel, "maturity" is relative. There are young people who are mature beyond their years...and there are also immature older persons. Also, only two people can determine if they are "equally yoked," not external, distant personalities.

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In the end, I think many of Prince's fans were mentally dating him while he was alive and now that he has passed on, they are his widows, in their minds...or only they could have understood and made the Purple Yoda happy, if only they could have met him. And, that's okay.

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The only woman for Prince was Vanity. She was his kindred spirit. He was a grown man and he loved a real woman. He and Vanity had a bond that marriages, and lovers could not break.

Andy was PR people. Nothing but a fill in publicly. You can post a million pictures, adn try to place songs on Andy. She was not the woman he was begging God to bring back to him just a few months ago. THAT was Vanity -

Reciprocity said:

The only woman for Prince was Vanity. She was his kindred spirit. He was a grown man and he loved a real woman. He and Vanity had a bond that marriages, and lovers could not break.

Andy was PR people. Nothing but a fill in publicly. You can post a million pictures, adn try to place songs on Andy. She was not the woman he was begging God to bring back to him just a few months ago. THAT was Vanity -

Well...alrighty, then.

Reciprocity said:

The only woman for Prince was Vanity. She was his kindred spirit. He was a grown man and he loved a real woman. He and Vanity had a bond that marriages, and lovers could not break.

Andy was PR people. Nothing but a fill in publicly. You can post a million pictures, adn try to place songs on Andy. She was not the woman he was begging God to bring back to him just a few months ago. THAT was Vanity -

Uhhh...not buying this so much. Yes FOTW, it's a well alrighty then moment.

joytotheworld said:

Reciprocity said:

The only woman for Prince was Vanity. She was his kindred spirit. He was a grown man and he loved a real woman. He and Vanity had a bond that marriages, and lovers could not break.

Andy was PR people. Nothing but a fill in publicly. You can post a million pictures, adn try to place songs on Andy. She was not the woman he was begging God to bring back to him just a few months ago. THAT was Vanity -

UhhIfh...not buying this so much. Yes FOTW, it's a well alrighty then moment.

I have lurked for a little while and just wanted to say this for a long time and if you listen to the Piano and Mic concerts Prince they were times when he pleaded to God to bring Vanity back to him. I am sure you both have heard those concerts since you seem to be all about Prince. I do not see what is so "alrighty " about it. It is what stands as public record from his own mouth yet you want to belittle and make fun of it? It is what is- not I want it to be.

Reciprocity said:

joytotheworld said:

I have lurked for a little while and just wanted to say this for a long time and if you listen to the Piano and Mic concerts Prince they were times when he pleaded to God to bring Vanity back to him. I am sure you both have heard those concerts since you seem to be all about Prince. I do not see what is so "alrighty " about it. It is what stands as public record from his own mouth yet you want to belittle and make fun of it? It is what is- not I want it to be.

Not belittling or making fun, just don't agree that Vanity was the one and only for him. Never have and never will. I have a bond/connection with my ex and he has remarried....doesnt mean anything, People can still love each other, move on and go about their life. It would seem that he had the opportunity to pursue Vanity again after his last divorce had that been the case. Prince loved many people throughout his life. There were also many women; I have never been convinced he was a one woman man...not sure it was in his makeup. We all have own opinions and won't always agree with each other such as in this case is all. Peace

You never know. Many times when I think I understand something about Prince I have been completely wrong, and my instincts are pretty clear.

I believe that it is possible that Prince never really got over losing Vanity. After all, many protégés after her including Andy and Tamar resembled Vanity, and if they didn't, they soon would, donning the same heavy black makeup extending beyond the outer edges of their eyes, during the time they were working with him.

There is an old magazine article from 1997 that I can't find again right now in which Prince is being interviewed about his new marriage (to Mayte Garcia). He talks about his marriage quite freely, and then suddenly, out of nowhere, he mentions Vanity. I thought this was unexpected and I remember thinking, "I wonder how Mayte felt about that." There are some who even say that Prince married Mayte to "get back at" Vanity for marrying someone else. He was sending Vanity flowers as late as the early 1990s trying to rekindle their very passionate, intense relationship.

Another article that came to mind today was the (below) 2014 RS one, in which he is still offering to talk about Vanity. He says, "And Vanity? Nobody could talk like her." When I re-read this article again today, where The Breakdown is discussed I realize it's just as possible that song was written for Vanity as it was for Andy. And I have always felt that "Revelation" was a song about a more mature or requited love that happened long ago.

He is also talking to Delilah in this interview, who most people don't focus on because she's been so quiet. She said on an Instagram post after 4/21 (her entire Instagram has since been taken down) that she and Prince spent his 2014 birthday together in what sounded like a very intimate evening, watching the sun come up as they had in so many places around the world, as she told him, "Prince Rogers Nelson, I'm so glad you were born."

http://www.rollingstone.c...y-20160502

Yes, he was a very special and unique being. And he had intense relationships with women. This is why it is difficult to know which one he's talkin' 'bout sometimes. I think the romance must've been fantastic and I think he was also a great friend.

Prince was well known for writing music of which the intent was often misunderstood. He discussed that in an 2015 Ebony article where he says, "I just let people talk. I was talking to somebody about 'The Beautiful Ones.' They were speculating as to who I was singing about. But they were completely wrong."
He implies that it was for Vanity, saying "Vanity had just quit the movie. To then speculate, 'Well, he wrote that song about me'? Afterwards you go, 'Who are you? Why do you think that you’re part of the script that way? And why would you go around saying stuff like that?'"
The article is posted publicly on Housequake's Facebook page on 6/13/16. It's a good read.

Finally, he was sending Vanity letters probably up to her death. In one he says this: "When Forever is perfect…
Being physical will Return to being nothing.
Being nothing shall return too feeling pleasure."

What a beautiful gift to say to someone who was struggling to stay alive. He comforted her so much through letters and it made her very happy. It is discussed on this Org thread but somehow the photos of the letters have disappeared. I saw them when they were posted and they definitely looked valid.

http://prince.org/msg/5/431812

He sent her another letters when she was in the hospital saying, "Don't worry darling. You'll be cool." This reminds me of what some of us think could have been his last song, "Stay Cool." It was said on this thread that perhaps Prince wrote that for Andy Allo to have after his passing - and I like that idea. But it is also possible that he had begun writing the song earlier (as in before Vanity's death). It is also possible that he was writing it to Vanity asking her to "wait" for him after he lost her in February. Or, perhaps he was writing it to himself "from someone else". Lastly, he even might've been writing it for us.

I am reminded today once again, that we don't always know who every song is about. not knowing is part of Prince's mystique - and I don't think he even always intended it to be so.

anangellooksdown said:

You never know. Many times when I think I understand something about Prince I have been completely wrong, and my instincts are pretty clear. I believe that it is possible that Prince never really got over losing Vanity. After all, many protégés after her including Andy and Tamar resembled Vanity, and if they didn't, they soon would, donning the same heavy black makeup extending beyond the outer edges of their eyes, during the time they were working with him. There is an old magazine article from 1997 that I can't find again right now in which Prince is being interviewed about his new marriage (to Mayte Garcia). He talks about his marriage quite freely, and then suddenly, out of nowhere, he mentions Vanity. I thought this was unexpected and I remember thinking, "I wonder how Mayte felt about that." There are some who even say that Prince married Mayte to "get back at" Vanity for marrying someone else. He was sending Vanity flowers as late as the early 1990s trying to rekindle their very passionate, intense relationship. Another article that came to mind today was the (below) 2014 RS one, in which he is still offering to talk about Vanity. He says, "And Vanity? Nobody could talk like her." When I re-read this article again today, where The Breakdown is discussed I realize it's just as possible that song was written for Vanity as it was for Andy. And I have always felt that "Revelation" was a song about a more mature or requited love that happened long ago. He is also talking to Delilah in this interview, who most people don't focus on because she's been so quiet. She said on an Instagram post after 4/21 (her entire Instagram has since been taken down) that she and Prince spent his 2014 birthday together in what sounded like a very intimate evening, watching the sun come up as they had in so many places around the world, as she told him, "Prince Rogers Nelson, I'm so glad you were born." http://www.rollingstone.c...y-20160502 Yes, he was a very special and unique being. And he had intense relationships with women. This is why it is difficult to know which one he's talkin' 'bout sometimes. I think the romance must've been fantastic and I think he was also a great friend. Prince was well known for writing music of which the intent was often misunderstood. He discussed that in an 2015 Ebony article where he says, "I just let people talk. I was talking to somebody about 'The Beautiful Ones.' They were speculating as to who I was singing about. But they were completely wrong." He implies that it was for Vanity, saying "Vanity had just quit the movie. To then speculate, 'Well, he wrote that song about me'? Afterwards you go, 'Who are you? Why do you think that you’re part of the script that way? And why would you go around saying stuff like that?'" The article is posted publicly on Housequake's Facebook page on 6/13/16. It's a good read. Finally, he was sending Vanity letters probably up to her death. In one he says this: "When Forever is perfect… Being physical will Return to being nothing. Being nothing shall return too feeling pleasure." What a beautiful gift to say to someone who was struggling to stay alive. He comforted her so much through letters and it made her very happy. It is discussed on this Org thread but somehow the photos of the letters have disappeared. I saw them when they were posted and they definitely looked valid. http://prince.org/msg/5/431812 He sent her another letters when she was in the hospital saying, "Don't worry darling. You'll be cool." This reminds me of what some of us think could have been his last song, "Stay Cool." It was said on this thread that perhaps Prince wrote that for Andy Allo to have after his passing - and I like that idea. But it is also possible that he had begun writing the song earlier (as in before Vanity's death). It is also possible that he was writing it to Vanity asking her to "wait" for him after he lost her in February. Or, perhaps he was writing it to himself "from someone else". Lastly, he even might've been writing it for us. I am reminded today once again, that we don't always know who every song is about. not knowing is part of Prince's mystique - and I don't think he even always intended it to be so.

I reead it all. I just don't believe they were soul mates and cannot be convinced...nor that he pined for her or died from a broken heart. So as not to derail this Andy Allo and Prince thread will let that suffice.

joytotheworld said:

anangellooksdown said:

You never know. Many times when I think I understand something about Prince I have been completely wrong, and my instincts are pretty clear. I believe that it is possible that Prince never really got over losing Vanity. After all, many protégés after her including Andy and Tamar resembled Vanity, and if they didn't, they soon would, donning the same heavy black makeup extending beyond the outer edges of their eyes, during the time they were working with him. There is an old magazine article from 1997 that I can't find again right now in which Prince is being interviewed about his new marriage (to Mayte Garcia). He talks about his marriage quite freely, and then suddenly, out of nowhere, he mentions Vanity. I thought this was unexpected and I remember thinking, "I wonder how Mayte felt about that." There are some who even say that Prince married Mayte to "get back at" Vanity for marrying someone else. He was sending Vanity flowers as late as the early 1990s trying to rekindle their very passionate, intense relationship. Another article that came to mind today was the (below) 2014 RS one, in which he is still offering to talk about Vanity. He says, "And Vanity? Nobody could talk like her." When I re-read this article again today, where The Breakdown is discussed I realize it's just as possible that song was written for Vanity as it was for Andy. And I have always felt that "Revelation" was a song about a more mature or requited love that happened long ago. He is also talking to Delilah in this interview, who most people don't focus on because she's been so quiet. She said on an Instagram post after 4/21 (her entire Instagram has since been taken down) that she and Prince spent his 2014 birthday together in what sounded like a very intimate evening, watching the sun come up as they had in so many places around the world, as she told him, "Prince Rogers Nelson, I'm so glad you were born." http://www.rollingstone.c...y-20160502 Yes, he was a very special and unique being. And he had intense relationships with women. This is why it is difficult to know which one he's talkin' 'bout sometimes. I think the romance must've been fantastic and I think he was also a great friend. Prince was well known for writing music of which the intent was often misunderstood. He discussed that in an 2015 Ebony article where he says, "I just let people talk. I was talking to somebody about 'The Beautiful Ones.' They were speculating as to who I was singing about. But they were completely wrong." He implies that it was for Vanity, saying "Vanity had just quit the movie. To then speculate, 'Well, he wrote that song about me'? Afterwards you go, 'Who are you? Why do you think that you’re part of the script that way? And why would you go around saying stuff like that?'" The article is posted publicly on Housequake's Facebook page on 6/13/16. It's a good read. Finally, he was sending Vanity letters probably up to her death. In one he says this: "When Forever is perfect… Being physical will Return to being nothing. Being nothing shall return too feeling pleasure." What a beautiful gift to say to someone who was struggling to stay alive. He comforted her so much through letters and it made her very happy. It is discussed on this Org thread but somehow the photos of the letters have disappeared. I saw them when they were posted and they definitely looked valid. http://prince.org/msg/5/431812 He sent her another letters when she was in the hospital saying, "Don't worry darling. You'll be cool." This reminds me of what some of us think could have been his last song, "Stay Cool." It was said on this thread that perhaps Prince wrote that for Andy Allo to have after his passing - and I like that idea. But it is also possible that he had begun writing the song earlier (as in before Vanity's death). It is also possible that he was writing it to Vanity asking her to "wait" for him after he lost her in February. Or, perhaps he was writing it to himself "from someone else". Lastly, he even might've been writing it for us. I am reminded today once again, that we don't always know who every song is about. not knowing is part of Prince's mystique - and I don't think he even always intended it to be so.

I reead it all. I just don't believe they were soul mates and cannot be convinced...nor that he pined for her or died from a broken heart. So as not to derail this Andy Allo and Prince thread will let that suffice.

You're better than I if you read it all, joy. I skimmed it enough to know that someone has been reading that Vanity and Morris Day thread too much. It is filled with quite a bit of unverifiable information.

FlyOnTheWall said:

joytotheworld said:

I reead it all. I just don't believe they were soul mates and cannot be convinced...nor that he pined for her or died from a broken heart. So as not to derail this Andy Allo and Prince thread will let that suffice.

You're better than I if you read it all, joy. I skimmed it enough to know that someone has been reading that Vanity and Morris Day thread too much. It is filled with quite a bit of unverifiable information.

Isn't that what this thread is filled with?

I did see the title of the Vanity and Morris thread but am not all that interested so I skipped it. I as well never said that Prince "died of a broken heart" because of Vanity's passing, although now that you bring it up, I have wondered more than once if when she died, he wondered for a fleeting moment perhaps, if he would be soon afterwards. I also believe that she welcomed him when he first crossed over. It is a comforting thought.
Anyway, good to be here for a while today. Have a nice evening

MoDrawersMoDrawers said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

You're better than I if you read it all, joy. I skimmed it enough to know that someone has been reading that Vanity and Morris Day thread too much. It is filled with quite a bit of unverifiable information.

Isn't that what this thread is filled with?

No, it's not. This thread has photographic and social media evidence. Not to mention lyrics and TWO albums that are arguably inspired by Andy Allo.

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The unverifiable information to which I am referring is supposed letters from Prince to Denise, provided by an in-law who seems to be testing the waters for a book. The authenticity of the said letters has not been established. Just have a look at the thread anangellooksdown posted. There is a reason that photos of that letter with a thread dedicated to it disappeared. That same in-law is quite active on the Vanity and Morris Day thread.

Although I am not a fan of her music, i do wish her success on her career and personal life. I do respect that she stays true to who she is and continues to grow as an artist.

With that being said, I don't think this is any different or extraordinary to Prince & (insert female name) threads. Just for kicks, my theories are these:

*Whatever "platonically or romantically" happened between them probably ended before it could have even started

* If there was a reason of parting ways, I believe it had to with her. Maybe it had to do with control over music career and creative/artistic differences. What if she was originally suppose to be part of 3rd Eye Girl? Maybe she didn't want to be in a band and prefered to be a solo independent artist

She is the not the first nor last female artist to have an enchanting experience with Prince

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FlyOnTheWall said:

MoDrawersMoDrawers said:

Isn't that what this thread is filled with?

No, it's not. This thread has photographic and social media evidence. Not to mention lyrics and TWO albums that are arguably inspired by Andy Allo.

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The unverifiable information to which I am referring is supposed letters from Prince to Denise, provided by an in-law who seems to be testing the waters for a book. The authenticity of the said letters has not been established. Just have a look at the thread anangellooksdown posted. There is a reason that photos of that letter with a thread dedicated to it disappeared. That same in-law is quite active on the Vanity and Morris Day thread.

"Arguably" being the key word. This is what you believe and I respect that, but other than your beliefs, there isn't proof. You state you have photographic and social media evidence, but the only evidence you've given is that they worked together. I don't dislike AA in any way and I have no opinion as to a romantic relationship between Andy and P. I just thought it was funny that you were calling someone out on speculating which is all you're doing.

MoDrawersMoDrawers said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

No, it's not. This thread has photographic and social media evidence. Not to mention lyrics and TWO albums that are arguably inspired by Andy Allo.

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The unverifiable information to which I am referring is supposed letters from Prince to Denise, provided by an in-law who seems to be testing the waters for a book. The authenticity of the said letters has not been established. Just have a look at the thread anangellooksdown posted. There is a reason that photos of that letter with a thread dedicated to it disappeared. That same in-law is quite active on the Vanity and Morris Day thread.

"Arguably" being the key word. This is what you believe and I respect that, but other than your beliefs, there isn't proof. You state you have photographic and social media evidence, but the only evidence you've given is that they worked together. I don't dislike AA in any way and I have no opinion as to a romantic relationship between Andy and P. I just thought it was funny that you were calling someone out on speculating which is all you're doing.

I pointed out unverified letters purported to be from Prince to Denise. See for yourself.

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http://prince.org/msg/5/431812

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With regard to my research findings, if you don't agree with them, that's fine. My theories are presented as such. That is totally different from unverified "love letters," supposedly from Prince to Denise. That said, I have nothing more to say on the Prince and Vanity tip. Peace.

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Well, look-a-here!!! If it's not Prince and Andy Allo at his special table at the Dakota Jazz Club. Reportedly, he took her there quite often during her stay in Minneapolis. I guess that shoots down the notion that all they did was work together, as some try to maintain.

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But, wait...is that a ring on her left hand on that finger, or is there some sort of reflection creating the illusion of bling? Or...could it be a rear-facing camera making it look like there's a ring on her engagement ring finger? Hmmm...

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MoDrawersMoDrawers said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

You're better than I if you read it all, joy. I skimmed it enough to know that someone has been reading that Vanity and Morris Day thread too much. It is filled with quite a bit of unverifiable information.

Isn't that what this thread is filled with?

YES THIS! The Ms AA hagiographic fest continues.

FlyOnTheWall said:

Well, look-a-here!!! If it's not Prince and Andy Allo at his special table at the Dakota Jazz Club. Reportedly, he took her there quite often during her stay in Minneapolis. I guess that shoots down the notion that all they did was work together, as some try to maintain.

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But, wait...is that a ring on her left hand on that finger, or is there some sort of reflection creating the illusion of bling? Or...could it be a rear-facing camera making it look like there's a ring on her engagement ring finger? Hmmm...

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Hmmm. The ring. Let us look into that. Research results are forthcoming to bring light and truth to the posted falsities and fairytales. What is the source/provenance of this image? Is it is readily available/accessible on a search engine eg Google? Awfully large pixelation here too. (I noticed that your posted images are so large that they crowd out the minutiae of "research" and analysis of this collaboration.) Love and light.

FlyOnTheWall said:

Well, look-a-here!!! If it's not Prince and Andy Allo at his special table at the Dakota Jazz Club. Reportedly, he took her there quite often during her stay in Minneapolis. I guess that shoots down the notion that all they did was work together, as some try to maintain.

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But, wait...is that a ring on her left hand on that finger, or is there some sort of reflection creating the illusion of bling? Or...could it be a rear-facing camera making it look like there's a ring on her engagement ring finger? Hmmm...

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As time goes on, I'm sure even more photos will emerge.

FlyOnTheWall said:

Well, look-a-here!!! If it's not Prince and Andy Allo at his special table at the Dakota Jazz Club. Reportedly, he took her there quite often during her stay in Minneapolis. I guess that shoots down the notion that all they did was work together, as some try to maintain.

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But, wait...is that a ring on her left hand on that finger, or is there some sort of reflection creating the illusion of bling? Or...could it be a rear-facing camera making it look like there's a ring on her engagement ring finger? Hmmm...

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[Edited 1/9/17 17:47pm]

How does THIS picture display any type of romantic relationship? I would understand your conclusions if they were in any sort of romantic embrace or even if either of them were touching each other at all much less in any kind of affectionate display, but they are not. Take away the faces on these 2 individuals and you can easily have a picture of 2 friends, 2 relatives or even 2 strangers seated next to each other enjoying a show. Again, I'm not saying they weren't romatincally involved. I'm not a fan of him and any woman in particular. I just find it very amusing how you see anything and everything regarding AA as a romantic indication yet when the same type of information is presented of other women, you dismiss it and refuse to discuss the topic any further.

In fact, I think judgemental comments such as yours might have caused him, at some point, to second-guess what they shared.

We're talking about Prince here, I doubt he ever second-guessed himself. A 30 year difference in age is not a gap, it's a gulf. I'm the same age as Prince, and no way could I sleep with a 25 y/o man and feel right about it. Really? Everyone here should have their own opinion, and mine is that he stopped sleeping with women much younger years ago, way before AA. And nowhere did I judge him, rather I defended him. I've loved this man for 38 years, and I simply believe he had a higher spiritual and moral compass than a lot of people believe.

I'll leave you with a quote from Appolonia's FB post :

(On June 28th, 2014, at your home at Paisley Park)

"I have a surprise for you", you say with a huge grin. We walk into a soundstage so gigantic it needs it's own zip code. Third Eye Girl is waiting for me, suited up and stage ready. So talented and beautiful! I was honored. You sat me right next to your mike on the stage. Close. So close. Thisclose. You sang our songs. You stared at me and I stared right back at you. It was beautiful. I fell more in love with you. Imagine that. You filmed us. You then posted it. That entire night you made me feel like Charlie Bucket. Prince and The Music Factory. It was like a romantic sequel to our movie. You made me feel like a Princess.

We spoke about family, love, music, and the future. Deep discussions. How we are family. 33 years now. You wrote another song about us, you proudly tell me. You show me the meme "This Could Be Us." Your happy face lit up. I gushed as always. I kiss you again. The plans you share with me take my breath away. You are so gracious. "

Is she lying ?

ChanGirl said:

In fact, I think judgemental comments such as yours might have caused him, at some point, to second-guess what they shared.

We're talking about Prince here, I doubt he ever second-guessed himself. A 30 year difference in age is not a gap, it's a gulf. I'm the same age as Prince, and no way could I sleep with a 25 y/o man and feel right about it. Really? Everyone here should have their own opinion, and mine is that he stopped sleeping with women much younger years ago, way before AA. And nowhere did I judge him, rather I defended him. I've loved this man for 38 years, and I simply believe he had a higher spiritual and moral compass than a lot of people believe.

I'll leave you with a quote from Appolonia's FB post :

(On June 28th, 2014, at your home at Paisley Park)

"I have a surprise for you", you say with a huge grin. We walk into a soundstage so gigantic it needs it's own zip code. Third Eye Girl is waiting for me, suited up and stage ready. So talented and beautiful! I was honored. You sat me right next to your mike on the stage. Close. So close. Thisclose. You sang our songs. You stared at me and I stared right back at you. It was beautiful. I fell more in love with you. Imagine that. You filmed us. You then posted it. That entire night you made me feel like Charlie Bucket. Prince and The Music Factory. It was like a romantic sequel to our movie. You made me feel like a Princess.

We spoke about family, love, music, and the future. Deep discussions. How we are family. 33 years now. You wrote another song about us, you proudly tell me. You show me the meme "This Could Be Us." Your happy face lit up. I gushed as always. I kiss you again. The plans you share with me take my breath away. You are so gracious. "

Is she lying ?

I can't answer that. All I know is that she had always previously denied any romantic involvement with Prince. As long as he lived, she did. That is all.

amimissinsumthin said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

Well, look-a-here!!! If it's not Prince and Andy Allo at his special table at the Dakota Jazz Club. Reportedly, he took her there quite often during her stay in Minneapolis. I guess that shoots down the notion that all they did was work together, as some try to maintain.

.

But, wait...is that a ring on her left hand on that finger, or is there some sort of reflection creating the illusion of bling? Or...could it be a rear-facing camera making it look like there's a ring on her engagement ring finger? Hmmm...

.

[Edited 1/9/17 17:47pm]

Hmmm. The ring. Let us look into that. Research results are forthcoming to bring light and truth to the posted falsities and fairytales. What is the source/provenance of this image? Is it is readily available/accessible on a search engine eg Google? Awfully large pixelation here too. (I noticed that your posted images are so large that they crowd out the minutiae of "research" and analysis of this collaboration.) Love and light.

Let's just say that the photo fell into my lap. It seems to be from a private collection. What is your ultimate point? Do you think the image is not real?

FLYONTHEWALL:

Why are you putting down the Morris and Vanity thread and Denise's brother in law for sharing some of her memorabilia with us? Vanity has a big fan base here and we are very thankful for his contributions. He has been respectful in every way. What did anyone in the Morris and Vanity thread say other than Prince and Vanity had an intense love hate relationship and that Denise was our inspiration? I remember a few weeks ago when you started this thread I came on here rooting you on for your excitement for Andy and Prince. Didn't throw shades at all even though I'm more excited by Prince and Vanity as a couple. I thought Prince and Andy were cute together and was glad to see that Prince seemed so happy in the pictures with her, and said as much. Why do you feel the need to put down her brother in law or another thread to substantiate your claims here? As if this isn't speculation as well. So not cool...
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FlyOnTheWall said:

ChanGirl said:

In fact, I think judgemental comments such as yours might have caused him, at some point, to second-guess what they shared.

We're talking about Prince here, I doubt he ever second-guessed himself. A 30 year difference in age is not a gap, it's a gulf. I'm the same age as Prince, and no way could I sleep with a 25 y/o man and feel right about it. Really? Everyone here should have their own opinion, and mine is that he stopped sleeping with women much younger years ago, way before AA. And nowhere did I judge him, rather I defended him. I've loved this man for 38 years, and I simply believe he had a higher spiritual and moral compass than a lot of people believe.

I'll leave you with a quote from Appolonia's FB post :

(On June 28th, 2014, at your home at Paisley Park)

"I have a surprise for you", you say with a huge grin. We walk into a soundstage so gigantic it needs it's own zip code. Third Eye Girl is waiting for me, suited up and stage ready. So talented and beautiful! I was honored. You sat me right next to your mike on the stage. Close. So close. Thisclose. You sang our songs. You stared at me and I stared right back at you. It was beautiful. I fell more in love with you. Imagine that. You filmed us. You then posted it. That entire night you made me feel like Charlie Bucket. Prince and The Music Factory. It was like a romantic sequel to our movie. You made me feel like a Princess.

We spoke about family, love, music, and the future. Deep discussions. How we are family. 33 years now. You wrote another song about us, you proudly tell me. You show me the meme "This Could Be Us." Your happy face lit up. I gushed as always. I kiss you again. The plans you share with me take my breath away. You are so gracious. "

Is she lying ?

I can't answer that. All I know is that she had always previously denied any romantic involvement with Prince. As long as he lived, she did. That is all.

But didn't you say he wrote This Could Be Us about Andy ?

ChanGirl said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

I can't answer that. All I know is that she had always previously denied any romantic involvement with Prince. As long as he lived, she did. That is all.

But didn't you say he wrote This Could Be Us about Andy ?

Yes, I think that the song is about him and Andy; however, Prince reportedly said that the idea for the title came to him from a meme with his and Apple's photo from Purple Rain.

FlyOnTheWall said:

MoDrawersMoDrawers said:

Isn't that what this thread is filled with?

No, it's not. This thread has photographic and social media evidence. Not to mention lyrics and TWO albums that are arguably inspired by Andy Allo.

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The unverifiable information to which I am referring is supposed letters from Prince to Denise, provided by an in-law who seems to be testing the waters for a book. The authenticity of the said letters has not been established. Just have a look at the thread anangellooksdown posted. There is a reason that photos of that letter with a thread dedicated to it disappeared. That same in-law is quite active on the Vanity and Morris Day thread.

Quite easy to find, actually ..