FlyOnTheWall said:

There would be no "turning a blind eye" to anything. Prince would be able to he honest with this person right up front.

FlyOnTheWall said:

Lala is refreshingly honest. There are no games. She doesn't want anything from Prince - still. She was his true Friend.

anangellooksdown said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

I would draw the line at stating that "most African women are used to dealing with such situations." I know plenty of African women who are unwilling to share their men, under any circumstances. And, by the same token, there are women of all races who are willing to turn a blind eye to their men's indiscretions.

There would be no "turning a blind eye" to anything. Prince would be able to he honest with this person right up front.

So, angel, please make it plain: Are you suggesting that Prince would have been able to be "right up front" with his "ideal" woman about having extramarital, carnal relations with other women?

FlyOnTheWall said:

By the time there would be any marriage, it would be unlikely he would be interested sexually or romantically in other women. He would be too satisfied internally. In his heart.

At the beginning there would likely still be other relations, and yes - he could tell her everything - and she would not judge it.

anangellooksdown said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

So, angel, please make it plain: Are you suggesting that Prince would have been able to be "right up front" with his "ideal" woman about having extramarital, carnal relations with other women?

By the time there would be any marriage, it would be unlikely he would be interested sexually or romantically in other women. He would be too satisfied internally. In his heart. At the beginning there would likely still be other relations, and yes - he could tell her everything - and she would not judge it.

Wow. Alrighty, then.

anangellooksdown said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

I have always loved that Vanity Fair photo. I can't imagine how difficult it is for those who knew him. It's good that she was able to attend the memorial in LA.

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I am struck by this with regard to Lala: On the one hand, her dealings with Prince, other than music videos, were hidden, but she now feels free to share many of the allegedly intimate details of their friendship. Andy, on the other hand, traveled the globe with Prince...and he serenaded her on the world stage. Yet, she remains, for all intents and purposes, silent, leaving us to wonder, still, about the extent of their relationship. That's quite a contrast.

Lala is refreshingly honest. There are no games. She doesn't want anything from Prince - still. She was his true Friend.

Do you know her or have first-hand knowledge of her Prince accounts? If not, how can you make such categorical statements?

FlyOnTheWall said:

I just know what I see.
She can be brutally honest sometimes, but Prince admired her honesty.
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FlyOnTheWall said:

luxegolightly said:

Here we go. First, what's not to like about Lala? She seems to be a nice enough young lady. Honestly, I knew absolutely nothing about her prior to this thread. I had not seen P's videos where she is a featured dancer. Beyond the videos, other than her personal stories since his passing, it's as though she didn't exist in Prince's world. And, I'm not trying to be mean, but that's all I can verify.

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With regard to this thread, it is dedicated to Prince's collaborations with Andy Allo. There was a question about Lala, which bibirose kindly answered, but make no mistake: This thread is dedicated to Prince and Andy's prolific collaboration. So, feel free to start your own thread on Lala if you are so inclined.

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Lastly, out of respect, I will answer your question, although you apparently, you did not even read the comment to which you are responding. Let me just repeat:

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With regard to Prince's creative output during his final five years, and Andy Allo's role in it, there are FIVE albums to unpack: Superconductor (2012), Art Official Age (2014), Hitnrun Phase One (2015), and Hitnrun Phase Two (2015). There is also the very rare acoustic album, Oui Can Luv (2015). For most reasonable, objective persons, that makes AA a central figure during this era.

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And, that's not to say that he didn't work with other associates/proteges/artists during this time, most notably Judith Hill, 3rd Eye Girl, MonoNeon, Adrian Crutchfield, Nik West, Eryn Allen Kane and several others artists that he mentored during his final years, like Kandace Springs.

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In addition, it dawned on me last evening that Andy's influence is also present on a SIXTH album: Plectrumelectrum. SIX. Count 'em! Now, thank you for your continued interest.

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The PrinceVault (PV) which you consider the 'gold standard' archive regarding Mr/Dr PRN's work records Ms AA mininal influence. Moreover, the records bring into question your assertion/proclamation that Ms AA is central to Mr/Dr PRN's creative last five years. She was not central; I say that it is/was mostly Mr Joshua Welton. Check out the following links to the five albums (minus Superconductor of which Mr/Dr PRN is producer) you referenced as evidence of Ms AA's impact:

http://princevault.com/in...umelectrum (not mentioned)

http://princevault.com/in...ficial_Age (background vocals on Breakdown, co-vocals on What It Feels Like and Time)

http://princevault.com/in..._Phase_One (not mentioned)

http://princevault.com/in..._Phase_Two (Background vocals on Black Muse assumed)

http://princevault.com/in...se_archive (Ms AA's album with Mr/Dr PRN as playing acoustic guitar on her cover songs.)

It is just not there. I am not missing anything. Fact-check or be checked.

anangellooksdown said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

Do you know her or have first-hand knowledge of her Prince accounts? If not, how can you make such categorical statements?

I just know what I see. She can be brutally honest sometimes, but Prince admired her honesty. [Edited 12/27/16 10:26am]

And, you've seen a statement from Prince professing his admiration for her honesty, right? Never mind. Why don't you start a thread dedicated to her and show/tell us all about it and what you "see" in this regard? Lest this thread gets run totally off the tracks, which some would absolutely love to see happen.

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Did anyone get a chance yesterday to listen to Andy Allo's Music Monday performance?

If so, did she perform any of her Prince collaborations as she has done in the past?

Thanks

FlyOnTheWall said:

I was simply giving my perspective about her as well, during your posts about her with someone else.
How long has it been since you slept?

I saw Prince and Andy together on stage a couple of times and I've seen plenty of videoes. I don't think there was much chemistry between them. Prince prentended to flirt with her and she looked awkward and uncomfortable, a bit like a young person would react seeing their old uncle at the disco.
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Latin said:

Did anyone get a chance yesterday to listen to Andy Allo's Music Monday performance? If so, did she perform any of her Prince collaborations as she has done in the past? Thanks

Funny you should ask. I watched it. I'll share my thoughts shortly.

A friendly reminder: This thread is about Prince and Andy Allo's collaborations.

Please help keep the focus of this thread on Prince and Andy Allo's collaborations to prevent the thread from being derailed.

Thank you. It's appreciated.

amimissinsumthin said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

The PrinceVault (PV) which you consider the 'gold standard' archive regarding Mr/Dr PRN's work records Ms AA mininal influence. Moreover, the records bring into question your assertion/proclamation that Ms AA is central to Mr/Dr PRN's creative last five years. She was not central; I say that it is/was mostly Mr Joshua Welton. Check out the following links to the five albums (minus Superconductor of which Mr/Dr PRN is producer) you referenced as evidence of Ms AA's impact:

http://princevault.com/in...umelectrum (not mentioned)

http://princevault.com/in...ficial_Age (background vocals on Breakdown, co-vocals on What It Feels Like and Time)

http://princevault.com/in..._Phase_One (not mentioned)

http://princevault.com/in..._Phase_Two (Background vocals on Black Muse assumed)

http://princevault.com/in...se_archive (Ms AA's album with Mr/Dr PRN as playing acoustic guitar on her cover songs.)

It is just not there. I am not missing anything. Fact-check or be checked.

Okay. Thanks for sharing.

FlyOnTheWall said:

anangellooksdown said:

FlyOnTheWall said: Lala is refreshingly honest. There are no games. She doesn't want anything from Prince - still. She was his true Friend.

Do you know her or have first-hand knowledge of her Prince accounts? If not, how can you make such categorical statements?

Angel is probably basing her statements off of social media investigations and the lyrics to Girl Thang Or are you the only one allowed to string together theories because of IG posts and song lyrics? Do you know Andy or Prince or have first hand knowledge of their relationship? If so you further prove my theory that you have an ulterior motive. No one is interested in starting threads about any other women that P was dealing with because we would need a separate forum. Also no one else is trying to prove anything but you and you absolutely knew about Lala prior to this thread. She's smoking hot though right? A blind man wouldn't miss her

anangellooksdown said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

I tend to agree. The more I learn about Prince, I really think he would have been an ideal candidate for polygamy. If it were legal in this country, I wonder if he would have partaken? He could certainly afford that family type. Some already refer to his many proteges and lovers as "sister wives." And I am dead serious.

It's something a bit different than that, I think. We use these words to describe what we know and understand, but Prince was truly more than that. Anyone wanting to have a lasting relationship with Prince would have had to have the same inner confidence. Not in an egotistical way; in a sweet way. She would have to possess certain traits like honesty, sincerity, kindness and compassion. This person would not be bothered by his loving other people. She would know she stood apart from the rest and was the one he wanted to be with more than anyone else. If she was jilted she would not be very affected. She would be steady and consistent. He would be able to trust her and be most intimate with her. She would have to be someone who was supportive and encouraging of him, and her true dependence would have to be on a Source other than him. Together but separate. Mutual respect and equally yoked. She would be able to give to him and any problems could be worked through. This person would've also needed to be helping others in her own right by the time she met him. I see her as having a different role than a protege. This person would have been his Queen. She did not get to him on this earth and that is the saddest part of their journeys so far. But life is never-ending. Remember?

I concur with this beautiful literal description of THE ONE. She is sympatico and flow for his energies. I would also add that she possesses the gravitas to balance his tempestuous proclivities and gravity to keep him in her orbit.

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Amimissinsumthin,
This is what I believed Prince wanted to/tried to make other women be, hence some of his lyrics in those last albums. He wanted this so badly.
Doesn't every man?
But especially someone as free as Prince.

luxegolightly said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

Do you know her or have first-hand knowledge of her Prince accounts? If not, how can you make such categorical statements?

Angel is probably basing her statements off of social media investigations and the lyrics to Girl Thang Or are you the only one allowed to string together theories because of IG posts and song lyrics? Do you know Andy or Prince or have first hand knowledge of their relationship? If so you further prove my theory that you have an ulterior motive. No one is interested in starting threads about any other women that P was dealing with because we would need a separate forum. Also no one else is trying to prove anything but you and you absolutely knew about Lala prior to this thread. She's smoking hot though right? A blind man wouldn't miss her

So, now you're trying to tell me about my prior knowledge of a Prince video dancer/friend? Seriously? I'm starting to get that psych ward vibe again.

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And for the record, the social media posts that I have shared from Andy and Prince's social media are photographs and musical recordings. The only thing similar on LE's social media is her music video(s), a silhouette of her and Prince from a video, and a screen shot from a video. That's the totality of her "receipts." Everything else is "Prince told me." or "I told Prince," or "Prince wanted me to," etc. And don't get me wrong, ALL of it might be true, but NONE of it is verifiable. Prince is certainly not here to vouch for her. In fact, if he were here, P would probably be appalled.

[Edited 12/27/16 12:18pm]

anangellooksdown said:

Amimissinsumthin, This is what I believed Prince wanted to/tried to make other women be, hence some of his lyrics in those last albums. He wanted this so badly. Doesn't every man? But especially someone as free as Prince.

Anangellooksdown, I believe this too. He could not find her, maybe because he himself was not yet prepared or free to meet her. WayBackHome.

Andy switched things up on this week's Magic Monday, December 26. Not only did she sing a few songs (by request), but she also had a pretty extensive question and answer session. For starters, she sang "If I Was a King" from Superconductor and confirmed that she originally wrote it for Prince.

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Additionally, she sang a gorgeous snippet of Fleetwood Mac's "Landslide." There were many requests for a George Michael song, but she said that she wasn't prepared to sing anything tonight. She promised to work on a GM song so that she "can do it justice," perhaps "Father Figure."

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When asked, she revealed that "The Grand Progression" is her favorite Prince song, which he beautifully played for her. In answer to a random question, she shared that, although Prince did not make her pancakes, he would make breakfast for her, when it was 'just [her] and him."

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Prince continues to inspire her she said, especially when a memory or something that he taught her comes to mind and influences her songwriting.

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The question of "U Will B" came up, and just the mention of the title brought the biggest smile/blush to her face. When asked if the song will ever be released, she answered that there is no official recording of the song, except the GarageBand version that she and Prince did when they...and then she seemed to catch herself and she stopped talking. She then gave this very conspiratorial laugh and continued, "when we did it together."

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They were never quite able to recapture that, well, energy when they tried recording in the studio, she stated; however, they did lay down the musical tracks, but no studio vocals.

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As it stands, the only version of "U Will B" that exists is the one on her Facebook, which she said, "captured a very beautiful moment in time" for her and Prince (followed by a deep, wistful sigh and then her raucous laughter). When she could compose herself (and stop blushing), she said that "it was awesome."

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Rounding out the set were Superconductor's "Nothing More" and a very emotional rendition of "Don't Ever Say," from her Hello EP. Lastly, she announced a Stageit concert, from her living room to ours, to be held at noon on Saturday, January 21. More details will follow. For now, like most of us, she is just counting the days until this godforsaken year is over.

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I think Prince would be extremely proud of Miss Andy's initiative.

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Wow. That is awesome. Thanks for sharing.

amimissinsumthin said:

I think he would've been ready enough if she appeared in his life. From what I'm told, that is the case.

anangellooksdown said:

amimissinsumthin said:

Anangellooksdown, I believe this too. He could not find her, maybe because he himself was not yet prepared or free to meet her. WayBackHome.

I think he would've been ready enough if she appeared in his life. From what I'm told, that is the case.

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paulludvig said:

I saw Prince and Andy together on stage a couple of times and I've seen plenty of videoes. I don't think there was much chemistry between them. Prince prentended to flirt with her and she looked awkward and uncomfortable, a bit like a young person would react seeing their old uncle at the disco. [Edited 12/27/16 10:53am]

paulludvig ur too much. that was how i read their onstage interactions too but i think they were both trying too hard when performinit seemedprince was trying too hard to boost her up and she was trying not to drown and be what he wanted her to be simoultenously. <><> still, after reading her poem the sceintist, i think they were fucking at some point and she was sprung.

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prince was never going to have a mature partner, he couldn't handle it. too threatening. had he lived another 57yrs he would have just found more young hens to take hostage. and yeah that would make most anyone lonely.

FlyOnTheWall said:

Andy switched things up on this week's Magic Monday, December 26. Not only did she sing a few songs (by request), but she also had a pretty extensive question and answer session. For starters, she sang "If I Was a King" from Superconductor and confirmed that she originally wrote it for Prince.

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Additionally, she sang a gorgeous snippet of Fleetwood Mac's "Landslide." There were many requests for a George Michael song, but she said that she wasn't prepared to sing anything tonight. She promised to work on a GM song so that she "can do it justice," perhaps "Father Figure."

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When asked, she revealed that "The Grand Progression" is her favorite Prince song, which he beautifully played for her. In answer to a random question, she shared that, although Prince did not make her pancakes, he would make breakfast for her, when it was 'just [her] and him."

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Prince continues to inspire her she said, especially when a memory or something that he taught her comes to mind and influences her songwriting.

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The question of "U Will B" came up, and just the mention of the title brought the biggest smile/blush to her face. When asked if the song will ever be released, she answered that there is no official recording of the song, except the GarageBand version that she and Prince did when they...and then she seemed to catch herself and she stopped talking. She then gave this very conspiratorial laugh and continued, "when we did it together."

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They were never quite able to recapture that, well, energy when they tried recording in the studio, she stated; however, they did lay down the musical tracks, but no studio vocals.

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As it stands, the only version of "U Will B" that exists is the one on her Facebook, which she said, "captured a very beautiful moment in time" for her and Prince (followed by a deep, wistful sigh and then her raucous laughter). When she could compose herself (and stop blushing), she said that "it was awesome."

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Rounding out the set were Superconductor's "Nothing More" and a very emotional rendition of "Don't Ever Say," from her Hello EP. Lastly, she announced a Stageit concert, from her living room to ours, to be held at noon on Saturday, January 21. More details will follow. For now, like most of us, she is just counting the days until this godforsaken year is over.

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I think Prince would be extremely proud of Miss Andy's initiative.

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Here is that demo of Prince and Andy singing "U Will B." It was released on January 25, 2013.**

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The song's lyrics, however, have been performed live by Prince since 5 May 2011, performed over the music of The Question Of U (along with lyrics from The One), later more commonly over the music of Shhh. And from 2014 onwards as part of Little Red Corvette. [He met Andy Allo in April 2011.]

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Latin said:

A friendly reminder: This thread is about Prince and Andy Allo's collaborations. Please help keep the focus of this thread on Prince and Andy Allo's collaborations to prevent the thread from being derailed. Thank you. It's appreciated.

I see your name on starting lots of threads in the Prince Musci and More Forum....While your reminder is appreciated....unless you are a mod...if someone wants to make a one-off....it should be ok. Thanks

Heres an ORG THread with the Lyrics to We will B

http://prince.org/msg/7/358562?&pg=1

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Lovejunky said:

Thanks for the lyrics to this wonderful song Lovejunky!

Lovejunky said:

Heres an ORG THread with the Lyrics to We will B

http://prince.org/msg/7/3...?&pg=1

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Thanks, Lovejunky!! I've been reading through the thread. It is very interesting, as is often the case on the org. Prince first sang this song publicly on May 5, 2011, just two-three weeks removed from the night he met Andy Allo after one of his residency shows at the Forum in LA. I'm not sure exactly which night it was; however, I do know that she went, as part of the Africa Channel entourage, to an afterparty at his Bel Air mansion. I believe it was in late April.