agirl said:

Been reading the posts and because of that I discovered Lala some of you r talking about.... Never heard of her before. Where does she come from?? Her posts on Instagram suggest quite a lot.... And what about Judith Hill and her posts on FB after his passing... I think he still loved quite lot of women at the same time.... Just my thoughts on the subject.

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To answer your question, agirl, I will repeat my thoughts shared in Reply #1342:

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FlyOnTheWall said:

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In terms of his intimate relations, none of us can know with absolute certainty what was going on with P. All we can do is read the tea leaves and examine clues that he left behind.

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That said, based on my reading of the tea leaves and examination of numerous clues, I have concluded that he and Andy Allo shared what she, herself, called "a great love." That was a very profound statement from her. Now, did he have other lovers during their time together? Perhaps he did have what he referred to as "candy girl[s]" in his last known song, "Stay Cool." Andy, however, was the one. The last one.

[Edited 12/26/16 16:53pm]

agirl said:

Been reading the posts and because of that I discovered Lala some of you r talking about.... Never heard of her before. Where does she come from?? Her posts on Instagram suggest quite a lot.... And what about Judith Hill and her posts on FB after his passing... I think he still loved quite lot of women at the same time.... Just my thoughts on the subject.

THIS !

Anyone that was around him had to "accept" that his LOVE was NON EXCLUSIVE

"He loves You and he loves ME TOO "

Did he love any one person MORE than another ?

That is the question that we will be left to specualte upon for all time.

Judith has said Prince told her "I will always be there for you,

He said the Same to Tamron, Nik, and no doubt he said that to Andy too...

I think WE have to spend more time Contemplating what LOVE really is,

because it seems Prince knew and lived it on a whole other level than we mere Mortals understand as is evidenced by the profound internal affect his departure has had on all of us...

[Edited 12/26/16 17:09pm]

Fly on the Wall..

What do you make of this ?

http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/6415102/prince-another-love-lyric-video-exclusive-premiere

"ANOTHERLOVE" grabs your attention immediately by starting with an accusation:

"U said I was what U wanted -- Liar."

After the potent opening line, Prince and co. play the track as a soul ballad swathed in heavy, distorted guitars. Halfway through, the song opens up and pounds forward, and Prince adds some classic adlibs which don't appear in the original:

"Everything we used 2 share/ our clothes and even our hair."

Lovejunky said:

agirl said:

Been reading the posts and because of that I discovered Lala some of you r talking about.... Never heard of her before. Where does she come from?? Her posts on Instagram suggest quite a lot.... And what about Judith Hill and her posts on FB after his passing... I think he still loved quite lot of women at the same time.... Just my thoughts on the subject.

THIS !

Anyone that was around him had to "accept" that his LOVE was NON EXCLUSIVE

"He loves You and he loves ME TOO "

Did he love any one person MORE than another ?

That is the question that we will be left to specualte upon for all time.

Judith has said Prince told her "I will always be there for you,

He said the Same to Tamron, Nik, and no doubt he said that to Andy too...

I think WE have to spend more time Contemplating what LOVE really is,

because it seems Prince knew and lived it on a whole other level than we mere Mortals understand as is evidenced by the profound internal affect his departure has had on all of us...

[Edited 12/26/16 17:09pm]

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Lovejunky, I think Prince's lyrics give us more insight into the inner workings of his mind than anything else. He seems to address the question of loving more than one woman "at the same time" in his last known song, "Stay Cool," the handwritten lyrics to which are on display in the Control Room of his beloved Studio A at Paisley Park.

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In his mind, if we are to believe his words, he has "the only one that matters in [his] world" and "the candy girl." We can only hope that he actually recorded the song!!!

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Here is the relevant portion.

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Stay Cool

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Ain’t no reason 2 get uptight
When everybody else is feelin a groove
Alright, alright?!
Stay cool, Baby
Don’t b no tool?
Don’t worry what’s happenin wit the candy girl
U’re the only one that matters in my world
Alright?….Alright?
Alright
Stay Cool Stay Cool Baby Baby
” ”

Lovejunky said:

Fly on the Wall..

What do you make of this ?

http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/6415102/prince-another-love-lyric-video-exclusive-premiere

"ANOTHERLOVE" grabs your attention immediately by starting with an accusation:

"U said I was what U wanted -- Liar."

After the potent opening line, Prince and co. play the track as a soul ballad swathed in heavy, distorted guitars. Halfway through, the song opens up and pounds forward, and Prince adds some classic adlibs which don't appear in the original:

"Everything we used 2 share/ our clothes and even our hair."

Lovejunky, I think you already know what I think: This was all about Andy.

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As I stated in Reply #1334, "I do believe that Andy's absence weighed heavily on Prince during his performances after she left. He was often very, very emotional...and sometimes visibly angry." The video "Anotherlove" is one of those times when P was visibly angry, which probably means that 3RDEYEGIRL's, PLECTRUMELECTRUM, is a SIXTH album on which Andy Allo's presence (or absence) is felt.

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But, if you read Andy's poetry from 2013, which is when she walked away from Prince, he was the guilty party, or as Prince sings in "ANOTHERLOVE," "behind [his] back, [he was] a "so and so."

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Really, their story strikes me as a classic, tragic "he said/she said" story of star-crossed lovers. And it is an epic story, one that is yet to be fully told.

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Be that as it may, the record indicates that, until the very end, Prince was still trying to find his way back to Andy, but for whatever reason, it never happened, perhaps because, like Vanity, she was unwilling to share him. And...she wanted marriage.

[Edited 12/26/16 18:27pm]

FlyOnTheWall said:

lemoncrush19 said:

FlyOnTheWall said: oh I always expect the best of ppl and there is nothing wrong with photoshopping pictures in general. yes I think all of those hearts are photoshopped. it seems 2 be his personal style (talking about the photographer of course not prince): black n white pics with blue or red guitars, golden earcuffs, colored cuff links and ... black and red painted hearts on his finger. maybe u want 2 look at those pics in detail ... u will find those hearts not reflecting light and dephts of the pictures ...

I agree that the photographer uses color on black and white or sepia photos for effect. But he doesn't add the actual guitars, ear cuffs, or cuff links, just the color. I would tend to agree that he probably added the red to the hearts on Prince's ring finger in the two photos from 2011.

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But I want to be clear: Are you suggesting that the photographer--who, from all that we know, is a reputable artist--just flat-out photoshopped the hearts themselves onto Prince's finger? If so, do you have anything to substantiate that very serious claim?

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well ... 2 be perfectly honest I didn't want 2 suggest anything. I just shared what I thought by looking at those pictures. and i don't consider a photographer committing a crime by photoshopping a tiny heart on someones finger. "very serious claim"? that's not what I ment and I still can't see anything that serious in that "case"

counter question: have u ever seen painted hearts on princes fingers in pictures taken by other photographers? I don't. or have u seen hearts on princes fingers in the questioned shows where those pictures were taken? live or on video? I don't. i.g. the pic from montreux night 3 ... I can't see any heart on his finger at any time of the entire show ... neither in any 2011 show I know.

but still I may be wrong of course!

Lovejunky said:

I truly believe that P was polyamorous. I saw a tv program about it a while ago, it was so interesting and makes so much sense when you realise that their brains are actually wired up differently. So rather than believing he was some kind of player I now prefer to think he just couldn't help but love several women at the same time.

lemoncrush19 said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

I agree that the photographer uses color on black and white or sepia photos for effect. But he doesn't add the actual guitars, ear cuffs, or cuff links, just the color. I would tend to agree that he probably added the red to the hearts on Prince's ring finger in the two photos from 2011.

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But I want to be clear: Are you suggesting that the photographer--who, from all that we know, is a reputable artist--just flat-out photoshopped the hearts themselves onto Prince's finger? If so, do you have anything to substantiate that very serious claim?

[Edited 12/26/16 16:42pm]

well ... 2 be perfectly honest I didn't want 2 suggest anything. I just shared what I thought by looking at those pictures. and i don't consider a photographer committing a crime by photoshopping a tiny heart on someones finger. "very serious claim"? that's not what I ment and I still can't see anything that serious in that "case"

counter question: have u ever seen painted hearts on princes fingers in pictures taken by other photographers? I don't. or have u seen hearts on princes fingers in the questioned shows where those pictures were taken? live or on video? I don't. i.g. the pic from montreux night 3 ... I can't see any heart on his finger at any time of the entire show ... neither in any 2011 show I know.

but still I may be wrong of course!

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You might not think it is serious for a photographer to doctor a photo, especially of a megastar like Prince, but many, including myself, would consider it unethical. Besides which, why would someone risk their professional reputation (and career) in such a nonsensical way? And, more importantly, if he were going to doctor ONE image from Montreax, why didn't he just doctor them ALL?

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In any case, these are the photos I had previously seen of Prince and Andy with Sharpie hearts. Trust me, I am not actively seeking such photos. Remember, you noticed (and mentioned) the heart on his finger before I even saw it in the photo that started this discussion. And, it was only after anangellooksdown prompted me to look at the photo more closely that I made the discovery. Before that, the only thing that stood out to me was his afro.

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This photo was taken by Prince.

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I'm not sure who took this photo of Prince, but it is all over the internet.

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petalthecat said:

Lovejunky said:

THIS !

Anyone that was around him had to "accept" that his LOVE was NON EXCLUSIVE

"He loves You and he loves ME TOO "

Did he love any one person MORE than another ?

That is the question that we will be left to specualte upon for all time.

Judith has said Prince told her "I will always be there for you,

He said the Same to Tamron, Nik, and no doubt he said that to Andy too...

I think WE have to spend more time Contemplating what LOVE really is,

because it seems Prince knew and lived it on a whole other level than we mere Mortals understand as is evidenced by the profound internal affect his departure has had on all of us...

[Edited 12/26/16 17:09pm]

I truly believe that P was polyamorous. I saw a tv program about it a while ago, it was so interesting and makes so much sense when you realise that their brains are actually wired up differently. So rather than believing he was some kind of player I now prefer to think he just couldn't help but love several women at the same time.

I tend to agree. The more I learn about Prince, I really think he would have been an ideal candidate for polygamy. If it were legal in this country, I wonder if he would have partaken? He could certainly afford that family type. Some already refer to his many proteges and lovers as "sister wives." And I am dead serious.

FlyOnTheWall said:

lemoncrush19 said:

well ... 2 be perfectly honest I didn't want 2 suggest anything. I just shared what I thought by looking at those pictures. and i don't consider a photographer committing a crime by photoshopping a tiny heart on someones finger. "very serious claim"? that's not what I ment and I still can't see anything that serious in that "case"

counter question: have u ever seen painted hearts on princes fingers in pictures taken by other photographers? I don't. or have u seen hearts on princes fingers in the questioned shows where those pictures were taken? live or on video? I don't. i.g. the pic from montreux night 3 ... I can't see any heart on his finger at any time of the entire show ... neither in any 2011 show I know.

but still I may be wrong of course!

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You might not think it is serious for a photographer to doctor a photo, especially of a megastar like Prince, but many, including myself, would consider it unethical. Besides which, why would someone risk their professional reputation (and career) in such a nonsensical way? And, more importantly, if he were going to doctor ONE image from Montreax, why didn't he just doctor them ALL?

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In any case, these are the photos I had previously seen of Prince and Andy with Sharpie hearts. Trust me, I am not actively seeking such photos. Remember, you noticed (and mentioned) the heart on his finger before I even saw it in the photo that started this discussion. And, it was only after anangellooksdown prompted me to look at the photo more closely that I made the discovery. Before that, the only thing that stood out to me was his afro.

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This photo was taken by Prince.

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I agree with u considering it unethical to doctor a picture in a way that changes the persons look, personality or the message of the picture in any kind. but we were talking about a tiny painted and obviously washable heart on a finger. I don't think something like that would seriously endanger someones reputation.

but since u found another picture with heart on his finger (and no that one does not look photoshopped 2 me) the discussion is obsolete.

FlyOnTheWall said:

petalthecat said:

Lovejunky said: I truly believe that P was polyamorous. I saw a tv program about it a while ago, it was so interesting and makes so much sense when you realise that their brains are actually wired up differently. So rather than believing he was some kind of player I now prefer to think he just couldn't help but love several women at the same time.

I tend to agree. The more I learn about Prince, I really think he would have been an ideal candidate for polygamy. If it were legal in this country, I wonder if he would have partaken? He could certainly afford that family type. Some already refer to his many proteges and lovers as "sister wives." And I am dead serious.

I believe that P wanted an exclusive relationship with AA but he also had committed himself to helping a bevy of proteges and muses all of whom had a vested interest in having his undivided attention. A number of them have dropped hints about him being interested in them or making advances that they rejected, with one outright sugggesting that she had a relationship with him --and then claimed she was misquoted. I have no idea what the working environment at PP was like. Shameless Maya disclosed on her video blog that there was a daily parade of beautiful women in and out of PP. She also said in the GQ article that none of the women were P's widow. P said in an interview that he could not be played. Unfortunately, he made himself vulnerable to being played by women who most likely dropped hints through the PP grapevine that he was interested in them or had a relationship with them. We know that women intentionally do such stuff. Such hints and gossip would most likely have reached AA who would then be reticent about attaching herself to a known player. Once he decided to have a relationship with AA, he should have drawn a line and dealt with the other women (his bevy of curly haired babes) on an arms length and business basis. If he had married AA and had a child with her, he would have slowed down and taken time off to be with his family. That scenario would not have served the interests of most of the associates, muses and proteges. In the long run, it would have served everyone's interest for P to be here. If he was married, and had a wife living with him there is a good chance that he would still be with us today. Unfortunately, most people put their own self interest first.

FlyOnTheWall said:

It's something a bit different than that, I think. We use these words to describe what we know and understand, but Prince was truly more than that.

Anyone wanting to have a lasting relationship with Prince would have had to have the same inner confidence. Not in an egotistical way; in a sweet way. She would have to possess certain traits like honesty, sincerity, kindness and compassion.

This person would not be bothered by his loving other people. She
would know she stood apart from the rest and was the one he wanted to be with more than anyone else.

If she was jilted she would not be very affected. She would be steady and consistent. He would be able to trust her and be most intimate with her.

She would have to be someone who was supportive and encouraging of him, and her true dependence would have to be on a Source other than him.

Together but separate.
Mutual respect and equally yoked.

She would be able to give to him and
any problems could be worked through.

This person would've also needed to be helping others in her own right by the time she met him. I see her as having a different role than a protege.


This person would have been his Queen.


She did not get to him on this earth and that is the saddest part of their journeys so far.

But life is never-ending. Remember?

Purpleone4Eva said:

I always assumed that Andy and Prince were musical collaborators and nothing more. I'm wondering if they were an item, where Lala fit into all of this? From her posts, it seems she was a love interest... Her instagram post recently implied the song "That Girl Thang" was written for her, with references that she would understand, and that song implies sexual intimacy. She also seems rather deeply hurt by his death.

All of this is speculation of course... but if he and Andy were an item, then it seems there would have been some overlap.

LE says she was introduced to Prince in December 2008 by a friend. There are no photos of LE and Prince as a couple. Perhaps, she has a private collection. She posted a photo taken at a concert on December 30, 2014, before P passed. There were several people in the photo.

https://www.facebook.com/...2258519963

https://twitter.com/Baron...3459645442

There are no further posts from her about Prince until he passed away and then she posted the following:

https://www.instagram.com...fPys7yWNR/

https://www.facebook.com/...7251903797

She helped to dispell the rumor at P dying from AIDS.

She appeared in the videos for Extraloveable and Chocolate Box. According to Prince Vault, Prince completed Extraloveable in 1982. He remix and completed in 2011, and Andy Allo rapped on it.

https://www.instagram.com...XAtIVyWHT/

http://princevault.com/in...raloveable

Prince recorded Chocolate Box in 2008 or early 2009 and LE appeared in the video.

http://princevault.com/in...colate_Box

http://www.princevault.co...colate_Box

https://vimeo.com/160661926

She said P recorded "That Girl Thang" for her and gave her the instrumental recording. Prince Vault quotes her as the source of this information.

http://princevault.com/in...Girl_Thang

She indicates that she was not liked in PP circles. Here is an extract from one of her posts:

http://princevault.com/in...Girl_Thang

"We had so much fun together. But we also argued, as those who are close, inevitably do. During December of 2015, we hadn't spoke in a few weeks. We were distant.

I got very very sick in January of this year and when he found out I was in the hospital, he reached out to me immediately. That was Prince's way of demonstrating his love for me.
No matter the distance between us.

Which for Prince, if you know him... He can ignore you for a long time if he wants to. And he had... Up until when he found out I was sick.
It makes me sad, that I could not do more to save him. It breaks me inside & makes me angry.

I had just spoken to him a few days before he transcended, (after his plane scare), and told him how much I missed him & how badly it had scared me when I heard of an emergency landing.

He told me he was ok & with a smile. He told me not to worry.

We both talked about meeting soon. (Cont. below)
lalaescarzega(Continued)... I wish I had've gone to see him sooner.
During the memorial, one thing that stuck with me was Tavis' speech and a speech by the pastor... Tavis spoke on how he had been re-evaluating his own life and how he kept asking himself "why". That resonated with me because I did the very same.
Then the pastor spoke later to answer Tavis. He said, "Do not question God" nor his timing. We do not know Gods plan and to ask "why", is too limited for Gods knowledge.
So I will try not to ask "why"... Although, with my ungodly abilities and reasoning and limited human understanding, it will be difficult. I will try to have Faith instead... and on days where it hurts the most.. I will remember how much he lived life to the fullest, how he loved me, our good times and I will demonstrate in my life your profound effect on me through my creativity. I will see you in all my art, and in all my love... I know you will be with me, always."

There's a lovely photo of LE at the link below:

http://prince.org/msg/7/425714?&pg=1

She sounds like a kind and loyal friend who deeply care about P. I don't get the sense that she was in a relationship with P at the time of his passing. So yes, P knew her before Andy Allo came into the picture. We have to remember that Bria Valente was also there before AA. So where did LE fit in? Not too sure.

This magazine posted such a cool picture of him http://stapico.com/pibemagazine . Recently I've been looking a lot for his concert pictures and if you guys can help with more will be much appreciated

temperance said:

This magazine posted such a cool picture of him http://stapico.com/pibemagazine . Recently I've been looking a lot for his concert pictures and if you guys can help with more will be much appreciated

THIS Picture .?? .if you are finding it difficult you can just copy and paste...

bibrose said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

I tend to agree. The more I learn about Prince, I really think he would have been an ideal candidate for polygamy. If it were legal in this country, I wonder if he would have partaken? He could certainly afford that family type. Some already refer to his many proteges and lovers as "sister wives." And I am dead serious.

I believe that P wanted an exclusive relationship with AA but he also had committed himself to helping a bevy of proteges and muses all of whom had a vested interest in having his undivided attention. A number of them have dropped hints about him being interested in them or making advances that they rejected, with one outright sugggesting that she had a relationship with him --and then claimed she was misquoted. I have no idea what the working environment at PP was like. Shameless Maya disclosed on her video blog that there was a daily parade of beautiful women in and out of PP. She also said in the GQ article that none of the women were P's widow. P said in an interview that he could not be played. Unfortunately, he made himself vulnerable to being played by women who most likely dropped hints through the PP grapevine that he was interested in them or had a relationship with them. We know that women intentionally do such stuff. Such hints and gossip would most likely have reached AA who would then be reticent about attaching herself to a known player. Once he decided to have a relationship with AA, he should have drawn a line and dealt with the other women (his bevy of curly haired babes) on an arms length and business basis. If he had married AA and had a child with her, he would have slowed down and taken time off to be with his family. That scenario would not have served the interests of most of the associates, muses and proteges. In the long run, it would have served everyone's interest for P to be here. If he was married, and had a wife living with him there is a good chance that he would still be with us today. Unfortunately, most people put their own self interest first.

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The thing is, many, if not most, of P's "bevy of curly haired babes" came onto the scene after Andy walked. In hindsight, I think leaving Prince alone, after perhaps ending his celibacy and reawakening his legendary libido, was a dreadful mistake. I think he alluded to this vacuum in his haunting Hitnrun Phase One ballad, "June."

...You're off somewhere being free
While I starve, in the lonesome cold
Our bodies got used to each other
Now they are used to the sound of Richie Havens
Voice on the vinyl spinnin' round and round
Round and round...

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She was gone...and he was virtually living on social media trying to find her clone (perhaps listening to Richie Havens singing Bob Dylan's classic "All Along the Watchtower," that P famously sang at the Super Bowl). But, she was doing what she felt she needed to do to get him to honor his promise of marrying her, of which her poetry hints. It was what her integrity demanded.

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I tell you, P and AA really made a mess of things. As she reminisces in her upcoming song "Dandelion," "Oh, the mistakes we made." In essence, she played right into the "bevy's" hands by taking the hardest of lines with her beloved Prince.

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Also, bibrose, I think you are right that P let friends (and perhaps orgers) get into his head and make him second-guess his relationship with Andy...AND his plans to marry her. Then, there is the matter of his health issues. In the end, sadly, I think they just ran out of time.

FlyOnTheWall said:

Purpleone4Eva said:

I always assumed that Andy and Prince were musical collaborators and nothing more. I'm wondering if they were an item, where Lala fit into all of this? From her posts, it seems she was a love interest... Her instagram post recently implied the song "That Girl Thang" was written for her, with references that she would understand, and that song implies sexual intimacy. She also seems rather deeply hurt by his death.

All of this is speculation of course... but if he and Andy were an item, then it seems there would have been some overlap.

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I don't have all the answers, Purpleone4Eva, but Lala's name came up earlier in this thread. Some even speculated that Prince's dealings with her might have been the catalyst for Andy leaving Minneapolis. (I have read that she was living at Paisley Park, but I have no firsthand knowledge of this.) In spite of that, she and Prince were still in contact and he made many overt efforts to reunite with Allo.

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As to the question of this apparent overlap, perhaps the lyrics to what is reportedly Prince's last song give us some insight into the complex mind of one Prince Rogers Nelson. His words suggest that, like many men, he compartmentalized relationships.

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Here are the lyrics to "Look at U, Look at Me," from Prince's final album Hit N Run Phase 2.

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Look at U, Look at Me

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Look at me

Tell me what you see
The back and forth of an earthquake
Goes strong and sturdy tree
I ask myself this question, but it's still a mystery
How I'm gonna keep my balance when I
Look at you?

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How can you not know
Standing over there like a Nefertiti, or the queen, Dido
Please don't think too ill of me
It's all that I can do
Got to feel myself when I
Look at you

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Modesty aside, whoever made you should be praised. Yes!
Ain't no need to hide
Every glass should be raised
Brandy or martini
Kudos overdue
What else is there really when I
Look at you?

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Fight it, yes, my soul has tried
When you look at me
All other women just roll their eyes
But even Ray Charles can see you
Stevie Wonder can too
Thoughts well up and wonder
Thinking about me and you
A dozen fantasies you
Call me won and done
When you look at me
Look at you, look at me

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Prince Vault shows that Prince recorded "Look at Me, Look at U" in Summer 2014 or 2015. The reference to the Egyptian Queen Nefertiti is most likely in relation to AA. P had a fixation with Egypt with M1 being referred to as an "Egyptian Princess", and M2 actually being half Egyptian.

bibrose said:

Purpleone4Eva said:

I always assumed that Andy and Prince were musical collaborators and nothing more. I'm wondering if they were an item, where Lala fit into all of this? From her posts, it seems she was a love interest... Her instagram post recently implied the song "That Girl Thang" was written for her, with references that she would understand, and that song implies sexual intimacy. She also seems rather deeply hurt by his death.

All of this is speculation of course... but if he and Andy were an item, then it seems there would have been some overlap.

LE says she was introduced to Prince in December 2008 by a friend. There are no photos of LE and Prince as a couple. Perhaps, she has a private collection. She posted a photo taken at a concert on December 30, 2014, before P passed. There were several people in the photo.

https://www.facebook.com/...2258519963

https://twitter.com/Baron...3459645442

There are no further posts from her about Prince until he passed away and then she posted the following:

https://www.instagram.com...fPys7yWNR/

https://www.facebook.com/...7251903797

She helped to dispell the rumor at P dying from AIDS.

She appeared in the videos for Extraloveable and Chocolate Box. According to Prince Vault, Prince completed Extraloveable in 1982. He remix and completed in 2011, and Andy Allo rapped on it.

https://www.instagram.com...XAtIVyWHT/

http://princevault.com/in...raloveable

Prince recorded Chocolate Box in 2008 or early 2009 and LE appeared in the video.

http://princevault.com/in...colate_Box

http://www.princevault.co...colate_Box

https://vimeo.com/160661926

She said P recorded "That Girl Thang" for her and gave her the instrumental recording. Prince Vault quotes her as the source of this information.

http://princevault.com/in...Girl_Thang

She indicates that she was not liked in PP circles. Here is an extract from one of her posts:

http://princevault.com/in...Girl_Thang

"We had so much fun together. But we also argued, as those who are close, inevitably do. During December of 2015, we hadn't spoke in a few weeks. We were distant.

I got very very sick in January of this year and when he found out I was in the hospital, he reached out to me immediately. That was Prince's way of demonstrating his love for me.
No matter the distance between us.

Which for Prince, if you know him... He can ignore you for a long time if he wants to. And he had... Up until when he found out I was sick.
It makes me sad, that I could not do more to save him. It breaks me inside & makes me angry.

I had just spoken to him a few days before he transcended, (after his plane scare), and told him how much I missed him & how badly it had scared me when I heard of an emergency landing.

He told me he was ok & with a smile. He told me not to worry.

We both talked about meeting soon. (Cont. below)
lalaescarzega(Continued)... I wish I had've gone to see him sooner.
During the memorial, one thing that stuck with me was Tavis' speech and a speech by the pastor... Tavis spoke on how he had been re-evaluating his own life and how he kept asking himself "why". That resonated with me because I did the very same.
Then the pastor spoke later to answer Tavis. He said, "Do not question God" nor his timing. We do not know Gods plan and to ask "why", is too limited for Gods knowledge.
So I will try not to ask "why"... Although, with my ungodly abilities and reasoning and limited human understanding, it will be difficult. I will try to have Faith instead... and on days where it hurts the most.. I will remember how much he lived life to the fullest, how he loved me, our good times and I will demonstrate in my life your profound effect on me through my creativity. I will see you in all my art, and in all my love... I know you will be with me, always."

There's a lovely photo of LE at the link below:

http://prince.org/msg/7/425714?&pg=1

She sounds like a kind and loyal friend who deeply care about P. I don't get the sense that she was in a relationship with P at the time of his passing. So yes, P knew her before Andy Allo came into the picture. We have to remember that Bria Valente was also there before AA. So where did LE fit in? Not too sure.

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Wow. Thanks for the background info on Lala. It seems that, other than music videos, we are left with nothing but her personal accounts to tell us the extent of her relations with Prince. Some commenters here have referred to the "ones that Prince kept in the coup," while "he paraded" Andy around. Perhaps this is an example of the kind of such relationships they reference. Could she be the "candy girl" that P writes about in "Stay Cool"?

bibrose said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

[Edited 12/25/16 14:54pm]

Prince Vault shows that Prince recorded "Look at Me, Look at U" in Summer 2014 or 2015. The reference to the Egyptian Queen Nefertiti is most likely in relation to AA. P had a fixation with Egypt with M1 being referred to as an "Egyptian Princess", and M2 actually being half Egyptian.

Prince Vault link:
http://www.princevault.co..._Look_At_U

anangellooksdown said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

I tend to agree. The more I learn about Prince, I really think he would have been an ideal candidate for polygamy. If it were legal in this country, I wonder if he would have partaken? He could certainly afford that family type. Some already refer to his many proteges and lovers as "sister wives." And I am dead serious.

It's something a bit different than that, I think. We use these words to describe what we know and understand, but Prince was truly more than that. Anyone wanting to have a lasting relationship with Prince would have had to have the same inner confidence. Not in an egotistical way; in a sweet way. She would have to possess certain traits like honesty, sincerity, kindness and compassion. This person would not be bothered by his loving other people. She would know she stood apart from the rest and was the one he wanted to be with more than anyone else. If she was jilted she would not be very affected. She would be steady and consistent. He would be able to trust her and be most intimate with her. She would have to be someone who was supportive and encouraging of him, and her true dependence would have to be on a Source other than him. Together but separate. Mutual respect and equally yoked. She would be able to give to him and any problems could be worked through. This person would've also needed to be helping others in her own right by the time she met him. I see her as having a different role than a protege. This person would have been his Queen. She did not get to him on this earth and that is the saddest part of their journeys so far. But life is never-ending. Remember?

Wow. So, you think Prince needed a saint, angel? Cause that sure sounds like what you're describing, some otherworldly being willing to share freely her man. Then again, I guess I do know of women who turn a blind eye to their men's dalliances.

FlyOnTheWall said:

bibrose said:

LE says she was introduced to Prince in December 2008 by a friend. There are no photos of LE and Prince as a couple. Perhaps, she has a private collection. She posted a photo taken at a concert on December 30, 2014, before P passed. There were several people in the photo.

https://www.facebook.com/...2258519963

https://twitter.com/Baron...3459645442

There are no further posts from her about Prince until he passed away and then she posted the following:

https://www.instagram.com...fPys7yWNR/

https://www.facebook.com/...7251903797

She helped to dispell the rumor about P dying from AIDS.

She appeared in the videos for Extraloveable and Chocolate Box. According to Prince Vault, Prince completed Extraloveable in 1982. He remixed and completed it in 2011, and Andy Allo rapped on it.

https://www.instagram.com...XAtIVyWHT/

http://princevault.com/in...raloveable

Prince recorded Chocolate Box in 2008 or early 2009 and LE appeared in the video.

http://princevault.com/in...colate_Box

http://www.princevault.co...colate_Box

https://vimeo.com/160661926

She said P recorded "That Girl Thang" for her and gave her the instrumental recording. Prince Vault quotes her as the source of this information.

http://princevault.com/in...Girl_Thang

She indicates that she was not liked in PP circles. Here is an extract from one of her posts:

http://princevault.com/in...Girl_Thang

"We had so much fun together. But we also argued, as those who are close, inevitably do. During December of 2015, we hadn't spoke in a few weeks. We were distant.

I got very very sick in January of this year and when he found out I was in the hospital, he reached out to me immediately. That was Prince's way of demonstrating his love for me.
No matter the distance between us.

Which for Prince, if you know him... He can ignore you for a long time if he wants to. And he had... Up until when he found out I was sick.
It makes me sad, that I could not do more to save him. It breaks me inside & makes me angry.

I had just spoken to him a few days before he transcended, (after his plane scare), and told him how much I missed him & how badly it had scared me when I heard of an emergency landing.

He told me he was ok & with a smile. He told me not to worry.

We both talked about meeting soon. (Cont. below)
lalaescarzega(Continued)... I wish I had've gone to see him sooner.
During the memorial, one thing that stuck with me was Tavis' speech and a speech by the pastor... Tavis spoke on how he had been re-evaluating his own life and how he kept asking himself "why". That resonated with me because I did the very same.
Then the pastor spoke later to answer Tavis. He said, "Do not question God" nor his timing. We do not know Gods plan and to ask "why", is too limited for Gods knowledge.
So I will try not to ask "why"... Although, with my ungodly abilities and reasoning and limited human understanding, it will be difficult. I will try to have Faith instead... and on days where it hurts the most.. I will remember how much he lived life to the fullest, how he loved me, our good times and I will demonstrate in my life your profound effect on me through my creativity. I will see you in all my art, and in all my love... I know you will be with me, always."

There's a lovely photo of LE at the link below:

http://prince.org/msg/7/425714?&pg=1

She sounds like a kind and loyal friend who deeply care about P. I don't get the sense that she was in a relationship with P at the time of his passing. So yes, P knew her before Andy Allo came into the picture. We have to remember that Bria Valente was also there before AA. So where did LE fit in? Not too sure.

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Wow. Thanks for the background info on Lala. It seems that, other than music videos, we are left with nothing but her personal accounts to tell us the extent of her relations with Prince. Some commenters here have referred to the "ones that Prince kept in the coup," while "he paraded" Andy around. Perhaps this is an example of the kind of such relationships they reference. Could she be the "candy girl" that P writes about in "Stay Cool"?

She provided information about the Vanity Fair photo shoot. She indicated that she styled P for the photo shoot and purchased the jewelry he wore. She seems like a very sweet person who is also hurting from her loss, and has had to deal with haters. If we the fans are having such a hard time coping with P's passing, then how much more difficult is it for the people who actually knew him? I think P would be saddened, if he were around and his close friends are being subject to abuse on his account. She was able to attend the LA Memorial event so she was able to get some closure.

https://www.facebook.com/...mp;theater

BTW, pardon my typos above. I am not used this prince.org technology.

FlyOnTheWall said:

What would have calmed and grounded Prince would've been a spiritually matured female who was unlike anyone he had ever met. That would be the person who would "suck him in" without trying to or needing to - and without playing all the games typical human beings do. She would have to be very unique.

Such a person is not really describable. It is a matter of personal power and energy; not sainthood.

Chances are he wouldn't want anyone other than her after not too long a time. They would've helped a lot of people together. She would have satisfied everything in him effortlessly.

These are things he sang about wanting, but even he couldn't have known exactly what she would be like until and if she appeared, which she did not. I have always believed that this was one of the things that made him sad. He was tired.

FlyOnTheWall said:

anangellooksdown said:

FlyOnTheWall said: It's something a bit different than that, I think. We use these words to describe what we know and understand, but Prince was truly more than that. Anyone wanting to have a lasting relationship with Prince would have had to have the same inner confidence. Not in an egotistical way; in a sweet way. She would have to possess certain traits like honesty, sincerity, kindness and compassion. This person would not be bothered by his loving other people. She would know she stood apart from the rest and was the one he wanted to be with more than anyone else. If she was jilted she would not be very affected. She would be steady and consistent. He would be able to trust her and be most intimate with her. She would have to be someone who was supportive and encouraging of him, and her true dependence would have to be on a Source other than him. Together but separate. Mutual respect and equally yoked. She would be able to give to him and any problems could be worked through. This person would've also needed to be helping others in her own right by the time she met him. I see her as having a different role than a protege. This person would have been his Queen. She did not get to him on this earth and that is the saddest part of their journeys so far. But life is never-ending. Remember?

Wow. So, you think Prince needed a saint, angel? Cause that sure sounds like what you're describing, some otherworldly being willing to share freely her man. Then again, I guess I do know of women who turn a blind eye to their men's dalliances.

I understand precisely what she is describing. The only scenario in which P could have had a successful relationship would have been a situation where his wife would have been willing to turn a blind eye to his extra-marital relationships, and focused on raising a family while supporting his career. Most African women are used to dealing with such situations, but AA was most likely not willing to compromise at all.

bibrose said:

Oh ho...this woman would not have been a doormat.
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bibrose said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

Wow. So, you think Prince needed a saint, angel? Cause that sure sounds like what you're describing, some otherworldly being willing to share freely her man. Then again, I guess I do know of women who turn a blind eye to their men's dalliances.

I understand precisely what she is describing. The only scenario in which P could have had a successful relationship would have been a situation where his wife would have been willing to turn a blind eye to his extra-marital relationships, and focused on raising a family while supporting his career. Most African women are used to dealing with such situations, but AA was most likely not willing to compromise at all.

I agree. But, in order for a wife/girlfriend to turn a blind eye, the husband/boyfriend would have to be discreet and not publicly humiliate his wife/girlfriend. Having one of his known "candy girls" in his music video is impossible to ignore...and it is demoralizing for the wife/girlfriend. P was known to be on that harem tip, though. And, Miss Andy was not having it.

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Besides which, most women in their early twenties, Prince's target market, have not yet reached the level of "maturity" or pragmatism needed to navigate (and negotiate) such a relationship. Whatever the case, such a man would need to ensure that his woman's dignity and integrity are intact.

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But a man like Prince, with almost unlimited power and means--AND fine as the day is long, during daylight savings time, at that...AND known to have that good good--was used to doing whatever the eff he wanted. After which, he'd be like : "Who gon' check me, boo?"

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bibrose said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

Wow. So, you think Prince needed a saint, angel? Cause that sure sounds like what you're describing, some otherworldly being willing to share freely her man. Then again, I guess I do know of women who turn a blind eye to their men's dalliances.

I understand precisely what she is describing. The only scenario in which P could have had a successful relationship would have been a situation where his wife would have been willing to turn a blind eye to his extra-marital relationships, and focused on raising a family while supporting his career. Most African women are used to dealing with such situations, but AA was most likely not willing to compromise at all.

I would draw the line at stating that "most African women are used to dealing with such situations." I know plenty of African women who are unwilling to share their men, under any circumstances. And, by the same token, there are women of all races who are willing to turn a blind eye to their men's indiscretions.

bibrose said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

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Wow. Thanks for the background info on Lala. It seems that, other than music videos, we are left with nothing but her personal accounts to tell us the extent of her relations with Prince. Some commenters here have referred to the "ones that Prince kept in the coup," while "he paraded" Andy around. Perhaps this is an example of the kind of such relationships they reference. Could she be the "candy girl" that P writes about in "Stay Cool"?

She provided information about the Vanity Fair photo shoot. She indicated that she styled P for the photo shoot and purchased the jewelry he wore. She seems like a very sweet person who is also hurting from her loss, and has had to deal with haters. If we the fans are having such a hard time coping with P's passing, then how much more difficult is it for the people who actually knew him? I think P would be saddened, if he were around and his close friends are being subject to abuse on his account. She was able to attend the LA Memorial event so she was able to get some closure.

https://www.facebook.com/...mp;theater

BTW, pardon my typos above. I am not used this prince.org technology.

I have always loved that Vanity Fair photo. I can't imagine how difficult it is for those who knew him. It's good that she was able to attend the memorial in LA.

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I am struck by this with regard to Lala: On the one hand, her dealings with Prince, other than music videos, were hidden, but she now feels free to share many of the allegedly intimate details of their friendship. Andy, on the other hand, traveled the globe with Prince...and he serenaded her on the world stage. Yet, she remains, for all intents and purposes, silent, leaving us to wonder, still, about the extent of their relationship. That's quite a contrast.

FlyOnTheWall said:

amimissinsumthin said:

Now the operative word here is 'curate'? What a deft shift in your modus since a previous poster first used this word. What I have garnered from perusing the previous pages of this thread is that there is no research - just rehash of photos ad nauseam and subjective revising of a standard collaboration. Does the state of Ms AA's post-collaboration career warrant this much cut-and-paste PR on the org? Furthermore, to say that "Andy Allo is at the center of that historic period of his life and career" is hyperbolic. I say that Mr/Dr PRN took her under his wing as any master-expert would of any neophyte. Lastly, for you to exalt Ms AA to the center of Mr/Dr PRN's creative universe not only discounts and negates God (the source of his creativity), but also the bands, artists, associates, proteges, and humanitarians whom he graciously touched and nurtured during the last four to five years of his life - on his own - as himself. There are plenty of evidence and verifiable facts to prove this. Truth is the light. Come into it.

Wow, amimissinsumthin. The word "curate," operative or otherwise, simply means to collect. And, as bibrose astutely pointed out, that's exactly what I am doing. [S]he encouraged me to remain tenacious in documenting Prince's final years, and I intend to do just that, in spite of disparaging comments like yours.

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With regard to Prince's creative output during his final five years, and Andy Allo's role in it, there are FIVE albums to unpack: Superconductor (2012), Art Official Age (2014), Hitnrun Phase One (2015), and Hitnrun Phase Two (2015). There is also the very rare acoustic album, Oui Can Luv (2015). For most reasonable, objective persons, that makes AA a central figure during this era.

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And, that's not to say that he didn't work with other associates/proteges/artists during this time, most notably Judith Hill, 3rd Eye Girl, MonoNeon, Adrian Crutchfield, Nik West, Eryn Allen Kane and several others artists that he mentored during his final years, like Kandace Springs.

So despite the other artists that Prince worked with you want us to believe that 2011-2014 was only historic because of Andy Allo? I like Andy and I dig Superconductor but lets keep it real, that album hasn't gone double wood and most of us only became aware of her music through being Prince fans. I do like how you and Latin will dig up anything and I do mean ANYTHING to keep this thread alive though because I don't think very many people over here are looking for their daily Andy update.

I however just checked into this thread again to see if you told us yet why you don't like Lala. This thread is for Lala right? From what I can tell thru my own social media research, it looks like Andy disappeared around the same time Lala came back on the scene.

luxegolightly said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

Wow, amimissinsumthin. The word "curate," operative or otherwise, simply means to collect. And, as bibrose astutely pointed out, that's exactly what I am doing. [S]he encouraged me to remain tenacious in documenting Prince's final years, and I intend to do just that, in spite of disparaging comments like yours.

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With regard to Prince's creative output during his final five years, and Andy Allo's role in it, there are FIVE albums to unpack: Superconductor (2012), Art Official Age (2014), Hitnrun Phase One (2015), and Hitnrun Phase Two (2015). There is also the very rare acoustic album, Oui Can Luv (2015). For most reasonable, objective persons, that makes AA a central figure during this era.

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And, that's not to say that he didn't work with other associates/proteges/artists during this time, most notably Judith Hill, 3rd Eye Girl, MonoNeon, Adrian Crutchfield, Nik West, Eryn Allen Kane and several others artists that he mentored during his final years, like Kandace Springs.

So despite the other artists that Prince worked with you want us to believe that 2011-2014 was only historic because of Andy Allo? I like Andy and I dig Superconductor but lets keep it real, that album hasn't gone double wood and most of us only became aware of her music through being Prince fans. I do like how you and Latin will dig up anything and I do mean ANYTHING to keep this thread alive though because I don't think very many people over here are looking for their daily Andy update.

I however just checked into this thread again to see if you told us yet why you don't like Lala. This thread is for Lala right? From what I can tell thru my own social media research, it looks like Andy disappeared around the same time Lala came back on the scene.

Here we go. First, what's not to like about Lala? She seems to be a nice enough young lady. Honestly, I knew absolutely nothing about her prior to this thread. I had not seen P's videos where she is a featured dancer. Beyond the videos, other than her personal stories since his passing, it's as though she didn't exist in Prince's world. And, I'm not trying to be mean, but that's all I can verify.

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With regard to this thread, it is dedicated to Prince's collaborations with Andy Allo. There was a question about Lala, which bibirose kindly answered, but make no mistake: This thread is dedicated to Prince and Andy's prolific collaboration. So, feel free to start your own thread on Lala if you are so inclined.

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Lastly, out of respect, I will answer your question, although you apparently, you did not even read the comment to which you are responding. Let me just repeat:

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With regard to Prince's creative output during his final five years, and Andy Allo's role in it, there are FIVE albums to unpack: Superconductor (2012), Art Official Age (2014), Hitnrun Phase One (2015), and Hitnrun Phase Two (2015). There is also the very rare acoustic album, Oui Can Luv (2015). For most reasonable, objective persons, that makes AA a central figure during this era.

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And, that's not to say that he didn't work with other associates/proteges/artists during this time, most notably Judith Hill, 3rd Eye Girl, MonoNeon, Adrian Crutchfield, Nik West, Eryn Allen Kane and several others artists that he mentored during his final years, like Kandace Springs.

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In addition, it dawned on me last evening that Andy's influence is also present on a SIXTH album: Plectrumelectrum. SIX. Count 'em! Now, thank you for your continued interest.

[Edited 12/27/16 9:22am]

FlyOnTheWall said:

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Such a woman would already know who she is. She could not "be" humiliated by others' actions or behavior. Her dignity and integrity would be only a result of her own actions, not others'.
She would also not be concerned with how others see her.