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Reply #1140 posted 12/10/16 3:09pm

206Michelle

cloveringold85 said:

206Michelle said:

FlyOnTheWall, I've seen the photo of her wearing a ring on her left finger, but who are the many that believe he secretly wed. I read Andy Allo's letter to Prince on Instagram 4/24/2016, and that letter makes it clear to me that their was some romantic involvement between the two of them. But secretly wed, seriously? Where is your source?

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Wasn't this a long time ago? I mean, Prince was with several other women after Andy, right? I know he broke her heart, as he broke so many other's. Personally, I think Prince enjoyed many different types of women because maybe each one gave him something that the one before couldn't. On a personal note, I always wondered why Prince couldn't be with one woman. I just don't know how he did it. Did he ever find true love? Was there ever one woman who could fulfill all his needs & desires? Probably not. confused

Good questions, cloveringold85. I ask myself the same questions about Perhaps the "one woman" in his life was music and the human women were just sidepeices. On the other hand, he was with Mani for about 5 years and did not want the divorce. Who knows how long they would have stayed together if she had not divorced him. I don't know why I think about such things. He's dead, so it's useless mental gymnastics, really. But talking about these questions can create an interesting conversation.

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Reply #1141 posted 12/10/16 4:13pm

FlyOnTheWall

206Michelle said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

Of course, Prince was a Jehovah's Witness, so his return to sexually charged lyrics, after more than a decade's absence, caused quite a stir. Many even believed that, for him to sing such songs, he must have secretly wed Andy Allo. Raising even more eyebrows, AA was, for a time, reportedly wearing a ring on her left ring finger.

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FlyOnTheWall, I've seen the photo of her wearing a ring on her left finger, but who are the many that believe he secretly wed. I read Andy Allo's letter to Prince on Instagram 4/24/2016, and that letter makes it clear to me that their was some romantic involvement between the two of them. But secretly wed, seriously? Where is your source?

They were only rumors, 206Michelle, but there was quite a bit of speculation during the time that P and AA were almost inseparable. I hope that didn't read like I'm suggesting that they actually married. If that were the case, I think we would know that by now. Some just couldn't believe that Prince, the Jehovah's Witness, was singing about (and apparently having) premarital sex. There were many threads about it right here on the org. Here's just one of them. There's another one that I'm going to try to find, as well.

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http://prince.org/msg/7/3...?&pg=1

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Reply #1142 posted 12/10/16 4:26pm

FlyOnTheWall

cloveringold85 said:

206Michelle said:

FlyOnTheWall, I've seen the photo of her wearing a ring on her left finger, but who are the many that believe he secretly wed. I read Andy Allo's letter to Prince on Instagram 4/24/2016, and that letter makes it clear to me that their was some romantic involvement between the two of them. But secretly wed, seriously? Where is your source?

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Wasn't this a long time ago? I mean, Prince was with several other women after Andy, right? I know he broke her heart, as he broke so many other's. Personally, I think Prince enjoyed many different types of women because maybe each one gave him something that the one before couldn't. On a personal note, I always wondered why Prince couldn't be with one woman. I just don't know how he did it. Did he ever find true love? Was there ever one woman who could fulfill all his needs & desires? Probably not. confused

They were not married, even though their apparent...well, closeness, and P's sublimely sexual music (and hers) made many speculate, because of Prince's JW faith, that they had to be married. Yes, he was known to be in the company of several women after Andy, cloveringold85, but it has been established that Prince was still publicly seeking Andy out, as late as November of 2015, when he announced a European tour to coincide with hers. Not to mention his Instagram post with the "Time" GIF that I shared. Did you happen to see that? If not, I can repost it.

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Reply #1143 posted 12/10/16 4:40pm

FlyOnTheWall

206Michelle said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Wasn't this a long time ago? I mean, Prince was with several other women after Andy, right? I know he broke her heart, as he broke so many other's. Personally, I think Prince enjoyed many different types of women because maybe each one gave him something that the one before couldn't. On a personal note, I always wondered why Prince couldn't be with one woman. I just don't know how he did it. Did he ever find true love? Was there ever one woman who could fulfill all his needs & desires? Probably not. confused

Good questions, cloveringold85. I ask myself the same questions about Perhaps the "one woman" in his life was music and the human women were just sidepeices. On the other hand, he was with Mani for about 5 years and did not want the divorce. Who knows how long they would have stayed together if she had not divorced him. I don't know why I think about such things. He's dead, so it's useless mental gymnastics, really. But talking about these questions can create an interesting conversation.

That is a good question, cloveringold85. I don't know if Prince was capable of true monogamy, but I do believe that he sincerely tried, on occasion; however, it's believed that he routinely cheated during both of his marriages. And, he might have been married to Mani for five years, but there were rumors that she was living apart from him in their final years. To be sure, it takes a special kind of woman to stay with a man with "wanderlust" in his genetic make-up. Apparently, Manuela is not one of them. And, from all indications, nor is Andy Allo, as it is believed that she walked away from Prince for this very reason (or at least the appearance of his infidelity), leaving a huge vacuum that a man like P will almost always fill.

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Reply #1144 posted 12/10/16 5:23pm

FlyOnTheWall

This show at the 2011 Rotterdam North Sea Jazz Festival is now the stuff of legends. The onstage chemistry between Prince and Andy Allo was impossible to ignore.

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Another Promo...

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Reply #1145 posted 12/10/16 7:32pm

FlyOnTheWall

FlyOnTheWall said:

206Michelle said:

They were only rumors, 206Michelle, but there was quite a bit of speculation during the time that P and AA were almost inseparable. I hope that didn't read like I'm suggesting that they actually married. If that were the case, I think we would know that by now. Some just couldn't believe that Prince, the Jehovah's Witness, was singing about (and apparently having) premarital sex. There were many threads about it right here on the org. Here's just one of them. There's another one that I'm going to try to find, as well.

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http://prince.org/msg/7/3...?&pg=1

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Here is the other thread to which I referred earlier where an orger thought that--because of Prince's JW faith and because their actions and music suggested they were lovers--he and Andy must have been secretly married. I have also cited the comment that stuck out in my mind"

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http://prince.org/msg/5/3...?&pg=2

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I think they are married, because Prince makes it publicly known that he is one of JW and I know he wouldn't be lusting /flirting after a woman and talking about their body, body parts or what they would do in bed, if they were not husband & wife. no no no! I think there's more to the story and they are being hush shhh hush about the whole situation.

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Reply #1146 posted 12/11/16 7:03am

FlyOnTheWall

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Reply #1147 posted 12/11/16 12:04pm

cloveringold85

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206Michelle said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Wasn't this a long time ago? I mean, Prince was with several other women after Andy, right? I know he broke her heart, as he broke so many other's. Personally, I think Prince enjoyed many different types of women because maybe each one gave him something that the one before couldn't. On a personal note, I always wondered why Prince couldn't be with one woman. I just don't know how he did it. Did he ever find true love? Was there ever one woman who could fulfill all his needs & desires? Probably not. confused

Good questions, cloveringold85. I ask myself the same questions about Perhaps the "one woman" in his life was music and the human women were just sidepeices. On the other hand, he was with Mani for about 5 years and did not want the divorce. Who knows how long they would have stayed together if she had not divorced him. I don't know why I think about such things. He's dead, so it's useless mental gymnastics, really. But talking about these questions can create an interesting conversation.

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Well, Prince was a very complex person, so we will probably never know! lol

"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016)
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Reply #1148 posted 12/11/16 12:09pm

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FlyOnTheWall said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Wasn't this a long time ago? I mean, Prince was with several other women after Andy, right? I know he broke her heart, as he broke so many other's. Personally, I think Prince enjoyed many different types of women because maybe each one gave him something that the one before couldn't. On a personal note, I always wondered why Prince couldn't be with one woman. I just don't know how he did it. Did he ever find true love? Was there ever one woman who could fulfill all his needs & desires? Probably not. confused

They were not married, even though their apparent...well, closeness, and P's sublimely sexual music (and hers) made many speculate, because of Prince's JW faith, that they had to be married. Yes, he was known to be in the company of several women after Andy, cloveringold85, but it has been established that Prince was still publicly seeking Andy out, as late as November of 2015, when he announced a European tour to coincide with hers. Not to mention his Instagram post with the "Time" GIF that I shared. Did you happen to see that? If not, I can repost it.

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Well, that is very interesting. I did not know Prince was still in contact with Andy. He was hanging around Judith Hill, Kandace Springs and Tamron Hall too. He always had beautiful women around him! LOL lol

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I think he was inspired by their talents and their beauty, of course! And, perhaps he saw something in them that he could relate to? He was obviously very inspired by them, because it couldn't just all be about sexual attraction, ya know?

"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016)
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Reply #1149 posted 12/11/16 12:14pm

cloveringold85

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FlyOnTheWall said:

206Michelle said:

Good questions, cloveringold85. I ask myself the same questions about Perhaps the "one woman" in his life was music and the human women were just sidepeices. On the other hand, he was with Mani for about 5 years and did not want the divorce. Who knows how long they would have stayed together if she had not divorced him. I don't know why I think about such things. He's dead, so it's useless mental gymnastics, really. But talking about these questions can create an interesting conversation.

That is a good question, cloveringold85. I don't know if Prince was capable of true monogamy, but I do believe that he sincerely tried, on occasion; however, it's believed that he routinely cheated during both of his marriages. And, he might have been married to Mani for five years, but there were rumors that she was living apart from him in their final years. To be sure, it takes a special kind of woman to stay with a man with "wanderlust" in his genetic make-up. Apparently, Manuela is not one of them. And, from all indications, nor is Andy Allo, as it is believed that she walked away from Prince for this very reason (or at least the appearance of his infidelity), leaving a huge vacuum that a man like P will almost always fill.

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Yes, I heard about his infidelity in both marriages. The bottom line is, if he wanted a monogamous marriage/relationship, he could have easily had one. He made his choices. I just wish he could have settled-down with someone and been happy. At least he did try with Manuela. But like you said, it would be difficult for any woman to have a lasting romantic relationship with him, because of his cheating tendencies.

"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016)
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Reply #1150 posted 12/11/16 12:42pm

FlyOnTheWall

cloveringold85 said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

That is a good question, cloveringold85. I don't know if Prince was capable of true monogamy, but I do believe that he sincerely tried, on occasion; however, it's believed that he routinely cheated during both of his marriages. And, he might have been married to Mani for five years, but there were rumors that she was living apart from him in their final years. To be sure, it takes a special kind of woman to stay with a man with "wanderlust" in his genetic make-up. Apparently, Manuela is not one of them. And, from all indications, nor is Andy Allo, as it is believed that she walked away from Prince for this very reason (or at least the appearance of his infidelity), leaving a huge vacuum that a man like P will almost always fill.

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Yes, I heard about his infidelity in both marriages. The bottom line is, if he wanted a monogamous marriage/relationship, he could have easily had one. He made his choices. I just wish he could have settled-down with someone and been happy. At least he did try with Manuela. But like you said, it would be difficult for any woman to have a lasting romantic relationship with him, because of his cheating tendencies.

I wish he had allowed himself to have a happy, loving relationship, as well. Some think that it was just not in Prince's DNA for him to be monogamous. Who knows?

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I do not, however, think he tried any harder with M2 than he did with M1 to be faithful. After all, Mani's relationship with Prince reportedly began while he was still married to Mayte...and reeling over the death of his son, a second child lost in a miscarriage, not to mention, his father's passing. My point being this: If a woman is willing to cheat with a man while he is married, what would make that man think that woman (now his new wife) deserves better treatment than the previous wife?

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But, I don't want this thread to go off the rails, I just wanted to address your point(s). Thanks for your input.

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Reply #1151 posted 12/11/16 12:46pm

wavesofbliss

cloveringold85 said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

That is a good question, cloveringold85. I don't know if Prince was capable of true monogamy, but I do believe that he sincerely tried, on occasion; however, it's believed that he routinely cheated during both of his marriages. And, he might have been married to Mani for five years, but there were rumors that she was living apart from him in their final years. To be sure, it takes a special kind of woman to stay with a man with "wanderlust" in his genetic make-up. Apparently, Manuela is not one of them. And, from all indications, nor is Andy Allo, as it is believed that she walked away from Prince for this very reason (or at least the appearance of his infidelity), leaving a huge vacuum that a man like P will almost always fill.

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Yes, I heard about his infidelity in both marriages. The bottom line is, if he wanted a monogamous marriage/relationship, he could have easily had one. He made his choices. I just wish he could have settled-down with someone and been happy. At least he did try with Manuela. But like you said, it would be difficult for any woman to have a lasting romantic relationship with him, because of his cheating tendencies.

some one from the org facebookd manuela and asked, in a round about way, if she divorced prince bcos in his affairs. manuela said no- and that people were going off of too many assumptions.

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not that the truth and 1st person accounts matter much in this thread. but you know me, i'm a wet blanket of reason around here. geek

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Reply #1152 posted 12/11/16 12:47pm

1Sasha

There are so many variables here. A young girl/woman, maybe she wants children, maybe he doesn't or won't because of past losses, a history of womanizing ... throw in possible illness (all of these things none of us have personal knowledge of), and it's a recipe for heartbreak. Too bad. I do think it all goes back to how his mother treated him, because during the recent shows he mentioned his father, but I never heard he talked about his mother.

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Reply #1153 posted 12/11/16 12:52pm

FlyOnTheWall

cloveringold85 said:

206Michelle said:

Good questions, cloveringold85. I ask myself the same questions about Perhaps the "one woman" in his life was music and the human women were just sidepeices. On the other hand, he was with Mani for about 5 years and did not want the divorce. Who knows how long they would have stayed together if she had not divorced him. I don't know why I think about such things. He's dead, so it's useless mental gymnastics, really. But talking about these questions can create an interesting conversation.

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Well, Prince was a very complex person, so we will probably never know! lol

nod I don't think "complex" even begins to capture the man that was Prince Rogers Nelson.

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It's likely that Prince's JW faith led him to try to avoid a second divorce with Manuela, even though they had reportedly already been living apart for some time. At any rate, they divorced and, from all indications, he severed all ties with her thereafter.

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Reply #1154 posted 12/11/16 1:00pm

Latin

Andy posted this rehearsal footage yesterday on Instagram:


https://www.instagram.com...2wlJZhbFl/

Enjoy!
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Reply #1155 posted 12/11/16 1:12pm

FlyOnTheWall

If I'm not mistaken, this was a promo for Prince and Andy's appearance on the Jimmy Kimmel Live show in October 2012. It references a line in "Rocknroll Loveaffair," the second track on Hitnrun Phase Two.

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Rocknroll Loveaffair

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He gave up women for the stripes of the road,
And learned the meaning of grace,
Thats when his cup overflowed.
And she said: Hello!
He said: my faith keeps me from willing
But you know that Im able
And if there's some room I'd like to sit at your table.
She says: it's tight, but I think I can fit you in.

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This kind of love dont come from a prayer
Aint talking rebound, born of despair.
Yellow sun rising on their bodies in bed
Two people in love, with nothing but the road ahead...


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Reply #1156 posted 12/11/16 1:34pm

FlyOnTheWall

1Sasha said:

There are so many variables here. A young girl/woman, maybe she wants children, maybe he doesn't or won't because of past losses, a history of womanizing ... throw in possible illness (all of these things none of us have personal knowledge of), and it's a recipe for heartbreak. Too bad. I do think it all goes back to how his mother treated him, because during the recent shows he mentioned his father, but I never heard he talked about his mother.

Great points, 1Sasha! Based on her social media, I definitely think that Andy wants to be a mother. On one of her social media accounts, she once even threw out the option of adopting a child.

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Also, I've often wondered about his relationship with his parents. Even though he didn't mention his mother much, he reportedly still had a very good, loving relationship with her. I believe Jill Jones describes his treatment of her as "tender" in a recent interview. But, perhaps, that speaks more to the man that Prince was, rather than any unresolved feelings he might have had toward his mom.

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Reply #1157 posted 12/11/16 1:51pm

cloveringold85

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FlyOnTheWall said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Yes, I heard about his infidelity in both marriages. The bottom line is, if he wanted a monogamous marriage/relationship, he could have easily had one. He made his choices. I just wish he could have settled-down with someone and been happy. At least he did try with Manuela. But like you said, it would be difficult for any woman to have a lasting romantic relationship with him, because of his cheating tendencies.

I wish he had allowed himself to have a happy, loving relationship, as well. Some think that it was just not in Prince's DNA for him to be monogamous. Who knows?

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I do not, however, think he tried any harder with M2 than he did with M1 to be faithful. After all, Mani's relationship with Prince reportedly began while he was still married to Mayte...and reeling over the death of his son, a second child lost in a miscarriage, not to mention, his father's passing. My point being this: If a woman is willing to cheat with a man while he is married, what would make that man think that woman (now his new wife) deserves better treatment than the previous wife?

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But, I don't want this thread to go off the rails, I just wanted to address your point(s). Thanks for your input.

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No problem. I think it's fair to say that monogamy wasn't in Prince's DNA! lol

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I don't want to derail this thread, so back to Andy.......(sorry guys)

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Reply #1158 posted 12/11/16 1:53pm

FlyOnTheWall

FlyOnTheWall said:

If I'm not mistaken, this was a promo for Prince and Andy's appearance on the Jimmy Kimmel Live show in October 2012. It references a line in "Rocknroll Loveaffair," the second track on Hitnrun Phase Two.

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Rocknroll Loveaffair

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He gave up women for the stripes of the road,
And learned the meaning of grace,
Thats when his cup overflowed.
And she said: Hello!
He said: my faith keeps me from willing
But you know that Im able
And if there's some room I'd like to sit at your table.
She says: it's tight, but I think I can fit you in.

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This kind of love dont come from a prayer
Aint talking rebound, born of despair.
Yellow sun rising on their bodies in bed
Two people in love, with nothing but the road ahead...

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Andy (and those FIERCE white boots) backstage at the Jimmy Kimmel Live show.

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Prince's performance on JKL.

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Reply #1159 posted 12/11/16 1:54pm

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wavesofbliss said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Yes, I heard about his infidelity in both marriages. The bottom line is, if he wanted a monogamous marriage/relationship, he could have easily had one. He made his choices. I just wish he could have settled-down with someone and been happy. At least he did try with Manuela. But like you said, it would be difficult for any woman to have a lasting romantic relationship with him, because of his cheating tendencies.

some one from the org facebookd manuela and asked, in a round about way, if she divorced prince bcos in his affairs. manuela said no- and that people were going off of too many assumptions.

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not that the truth and 1st person accounts matter much in this thread. but you know me, i'm a wet blanket of reason around here. geek

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Thanks for sharing those little tidbits! lol

"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016)
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Reply #1160 posted 12/11/16 1:56pm

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1Sasha said:

There are so many variables here. A young girl/woman, maybe she wants children, maybe he doesn't or won't because of past losses, a history of womanizing ... throw in possible illness (all of these things none of us have personal knowledge of), and it's a recipe for heartbreak. Too bad. I do think it all goes back to how his mother treated him, because during the recent shows he mentioned his father, but I never heard he talked about his mother.

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I agree! I think a lot of his issues go back to his Mom (abandonment). I think that when things would start going good for him, he would start to feel uneasy or maybe insecure? I dunno. confused

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Reply #1161 posted 12/11/16 3:22pm

joytotheworld

cloveringold85 said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

I wish he had allowed himself to have a happy, loving relationship, as well. Some think that it was just not in Prince's DNA for him to be monogamous. Who knows?

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I do not, however, think he tried any harder with M2 than he did with M1 to be faithful. After all, Mani's relationship with Prince reportedly began while he was still married to Mayte...and reeling over the death of his son, a second child lost in a miscarriage, not to mention, his father's passing. My point being this: If a woman is willing to cheat with a man while he is married, what would make that man think that woman (now his new wife) deserves better treatment than the previous wife?

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But, I don't want this thread to go off the rails, I just wanted to address your point(s). Thanks for your input.

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No problem. I think it's fair to say that monogamy wasn't in Prince's DNA! lol

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I don't want to derail this thread, so back to Andy.......(sorry guys)

I dont want to derail it either so just one quick comment. Perhaps marrying M2 was his way to deal with the grief of losing M1, two children and a parent. Change faces and places to make the hurt go away.

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Reply #1162 posted 12/11/16 3:46pm

FlyOnTheWall

joytotheworld said:

cloveringold85 said:

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No problem. I think it's fair to say that monogamy wasn't in Prince's DNA! lol

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I don't want to derail this thread, so back to Andy.......(sorry guys)

I dont want to derail it either so just one quick comment. Perhaps marrying M2 was his way to deal with the grief of losing M1, two children and a parent. Change faces and places to make the hurt go away.

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That might have had something to do with it, joy. This question makes me think of a line from "RNR Loveaffair," which is widely believed to be about Prince and Andy Allo:

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...This kind of love don't come from a prayer
Ain't talking rebound, born of despair
Yellow sun rising on their bodies in bed
Two people in love, with nothing but the road ahead...

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It's made me wonder: Are these random lyrics, or did he once have a "rebound" relationship, "born of despair"?

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Reply #1163 posted 12/11/16 3:52pm

joytotheworld

FlyOnTheWall said:

joytotheworld said:

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That might have had something to do with it, joy. This question makes me think of a line from "RNR Loveaffair," which is widely believed to be about Prince and Andy Allo:

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...This kind of love don't come from a prayer
Ain't talking rebound, born of despair
Yellow sun rising on their bodies in bed
Two people in love, with nothing but the road ahead...

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It's made me wonder: Is this a random lyric, or did he once have a "rebound" relationship, "born of despair"?

Exactly...that particular line is what prompted my response.

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Reply #1164 posted 12/11/16 3:57pm

anangellooksdo
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Some other things I've noted: When Andy cut her hair off after April, she mentioned in FB that it was scary letting go of something that was "her identity". I have read that Prince wanted her to study a black female musician from the past - I believe Betty (Mobry) Davis (Miles Davis' wife):

http://www.thewinehousema...tty-davis/

I think Andy had a real experience with Prince that she will never forget and has learned a lot from artistically and in other ways. I also see her as being more comfortable with herself as she is today.


On a different topic, I believe we are all born innocent and with the God-given desire to be monogamous and honest, but life builds up in such a way that results in different types of dishonesty - for ALL of us. And this certainly extends over into the romance department. I'm not making excuses for anyone; I'm just expressing what I've seen and experienced. Different kinds of fear is behind it.
I may be wrong about this, I don't know, but I have felt that Prince was pretty faithful in his marriages, aside from the events that happened in 1999, when I think he was traumatized into his responses (yes, Joytotheworld. Absolutely.)
And I have also noted the lyrics, "rebound relationship born of despair."
I have read that Prince was a natural flirt and from what I see his was both attracted to and shy (afraid) around women sometimes.

I believe he wanted his Dad's acceptance, approval and love. I think he worshipped his father. That might be where some of the women stuff came from too. And I read that he always went in the mornings to see both his mother and father although they lived in separate homes.
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Some other things I've noted: When Andy cut her hair off after April, she mentioned in FB that it was scary letting go of something that was "her identity". I have read that Prince wanted her to study a black female musician from the past - I believe Betty (Mobry) Davis (Miles Davis' wife): http://www.thewinehousema...tty-davis/ I think Andy had a real experience with Prince that she will never forget and has learned a lot from artistically and in other ways. I also see her as being more comfortable with herself as she is today. On a different topic, I believe we are all born innocent and with the God-given desire to be monogamous and honest, but life builds up in such a way that results in different types of dishonesty - for ALL of us. And this certainly extends over into the romance department. I'm not making excuses for anyone; I'm just expressing what I've seen and experienced. Different kinds of fear is behind it. I may be wrong about this, I don't know, but I have felt that Prince was pretty faithful in his marriages, aside from the events that happened in 1999, when I think he was traumatized into his responses (yes, Joytotheworld. Absolutely.) And I have also noted the lyrics, "rebound relationship born of despair." I have read that Prince was a natural flirt and from what I see his was both attracted to and shy (afraid) around women sometimes. I believe he wanted his Dad's acceptance, approval and love. I think he worshipped his father. That might be where some of the women stuff came from too. And I read that he always went in the mornings to see both his mother and father although they lived in separate homes.

Yes, I think with his spiritual/religious background he honored the commitment of marriage. Not going to judge him for how he choose to deal with his pain at that time of his life. Perhaps it is all he knew to do.

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Reply #1166 posted 12/11/16 4:11pm

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anangellooksdown said:

Some other things I've noted: When Andy cut her hair off after April, she mentioned in FB that it was scary letting go of something that was "her identity". I have read that Prince wanted her to study a black female musician from the past - I believe Betty (Mobry) Davis (Miles Davis' wife): http://www.thewinehousema...tty-davis/ I think Andy had a real experience with Prince that she will never forget and has learned a lot from artistically and in other ways. I also see her as being more comfortable with herself as she is today. On a different topic, I believe we are all born innocent and with the God-given desire to be monogamous and honest, but life builds up in such a way that results in different types of dishonesty - for ALL of us. And this certainly extends over into the romance department. I'm not making excuses for anyone; I'm just expressing what I've seen and experienced. Different kinds of fear is behind it. I may be wrong about this, I don't know, but I have felt that Prince was pretty faithful in his marriages, aside from the events that happened in 1999, when I think he was traumatized into his responses (yes, Joytotheworld. Absolutely.) And I have also noted the lyrics, "rebound relationship born of despair." I have read that Prince was a natural flirt and from what I see his was both attracted to and shy (afraid) around women sometimes. I believe he wanted his Dad's acceptance, approval and love. I think he worshipped his father. That might be where some of the women stuff came from too. And I read that he always went in the mornings to see both his mother and father although they lived in separate homes.

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I think it is pretty widely known that Andy was a bit of a tomboy growing up, and admittedly, Prince glammed her up, but she was already pretty glamorous, with long flowing natural tresses, when she met Prince. Here is a photo of (and interview with) Andy from 2010. Her P encounter did not happen until almost a year and a half later.

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You Need To Know....Andy Allo

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Reply #1167 posted 12/11/16 4:21pm

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joytotheworld said:

anangellooksdown said:

Some other things I've noted: When Andy cut her hair off after April, she mentioned in FB that it was scary letting go of something that was "her identity". I have read that Prince wanted her to study a black female musician from the past - I believe Betty (Mobry) Davis (Miles Davis' wife): http://www.thewinehousema...tty-davis/ I think Andy had a real experience with Prince that she will never forget and has learned a lot from artistically and in other ways. I also see her as being more comfortable with herself as she is today. On a different topic, I believe we are all born innocent and with the God-given desire to be monogamous and honest, but life builds up in such a way that results in different types of dishonesty - for ALL of us. And this certainly extends over into the romance department. I'm not making excuses for anyone; I'm just expressing what I've seen and experienced. Different kinds of fear is behind it. I may be wrong about this, I don't know, but I have felt that Prince was pretty faithful in his marriages, aside from the events that happened in 1999, when I think he was traumatized into his responses (yes, Joytotheworld. Absolutely.) And I have also noted the lyrics, "rebound relationship born of despair." I have read that Prince was a natural flirt and from what I see his was both attracted to and shy (afraid) around women sometimes. I believe he wanted his Dad's acceptance, approval and love. I think he worshipped his father. That might be where some of the women stuff came from too. And I read that he always went in the mornings to see both his mother and father although they lived in separate homes.

Yes, I think with his spiritual/religious background he honored the commitment of marriage. Not going to judge him for how he choose to deal with his pain at that time of his life. Perhaps it is all he knew to do.

I won't judge him, either, but if he and Mani were living apart, I don't know what that meant in terms of Prince and fidelity. That might have led to the rampant speculation that he was having extramarital affairs during that time. His protege relationship with Tamar, in particular, was very heavily scrutinized. They were extremely close, and Mani was nowhere to be seen during this time. But, we digress...

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Reply #1168 posted 12/11/16 4:28pm

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Reply #1169 posted 12/11/16 4:56pm

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FlyOnTheWall said:


If I'm not mistaken, this was a promo for Prince and Andy's appearance on the Jimmy Kimmel Live show in October 2012. It references a line in "Rocknroll Loveaffair," the second track on Hitnrun Phase Two.


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Rocknroll Loveaffair


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He gave up women for the stripes of the road,
And learned the meaning of grace,
Thats when his cup overflowed.
And she said: Hello!
He said: my faith keeps me from willing
But you know that Im able
And if there's some room I'd like to sit at your table.
She says: it's tight, but I think I can fit you in.


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This kind of love dont come from a prayer
Aint talking rebound, born of despair.
Yellow sun rising on their bodies in bed
Two people in love, with nothing but the road ahead...




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Andy (and those FIERCE white boots) backstage at the Jimmy Kimmel Live show.


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Prince's performance on JKL.


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Cool photos!
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