I found this article interesting and wanted to share. I hope it's not fortelling, but fear it might be....

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BY TROY ANTONUCCI | NOVEMBER 15, 2016

Prince is the most influential artist in today’s music culture. Unfortunately for him, however, his legacy may not last.

http://utmost.us/keeping-...e-mistake/

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Depressing article and unfortunately a fear I share.

Hopefully, his family is greedy enough to just release his music.

As long as people make the choice to PAY for their music and education,they'll have access to Prince's music and have a chance to appreciate his legacy. And if they don't then they won't. I have a problem with people outside of the sphere of Prince's business endeavors crying to "free the music."

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There are good-and-plenty people who would look to profit from Prince's music and legacy and that is what I see in these type of pronouncements. Given protective caretakers the art will be curated and filtered to those who wish to discover Prince's contributions.

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Yes, I do believe that that Troy Antonucci's article on Prince sucks and I wish he would move over and let more enlightened people speak on it. As far as the comments on technological limitations of the music is concerned, Prince was a pioneer who embraced new technology from his beginning, and even when he set parameters to the amount of technology he would apply to a live band structure for his sound and his distribution of music would always search for ways to enhance both traditional musicianship and his relationship to the public with technology. Prince was a technology adapter and not a slave to it.

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End rant for now.

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GimmeThat said:

Nothing lasts forever but Prince will always mean a lot to some of us and that's important. My professional opinion is that the guy who wrote this article sucks.

Anyone who thinks his music not being available on spotify, youtube, apple, is not hurting his legacy is delusional.

bigtimefan said:

I found this article interesting and wanted to share. I hope it's not fortelling, but fear it might be....

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BY TROY ANTONUCCI | NOVEMBER 15, 2016

Prince is the most influential artist in today’s music culture. Unfortunately for him, however, his legacy may not last.

http://utmost.us/keeping-...e-mistake/

[Article is copyrighted. You do not have permission from the source to reproduce it in its entirety. Just post 1st paragraph with a link to the article. Thread edit - luv4u]

Thank you! I have been saying for the longest Prince did a disservice until the last two years of his life of not expose more of his music over the internet to reach out to younger listeners. I swear if it weren't for me my siblings wouldnt know who Prince is. And their peers don't know Prince but they know who Michael Jackson is. Another thing is Prince is very hard to market because he did many genres.

It is up to the family/estate to continue with his legacy and they have some work cut out as his fanbase are getting older or dying off. Maybe licensing his music to commericals and other advertising forms might help him attract younger audience so I wouldn't give up hope yet.

Goddess4Real said:

Personally I've always thought Price had a lackadaisical approach to his legacy throughout his career, especially post-Purple Rain. He made many decisions that a more thoughtful artist of his gifts just wouldn't have considered. The fact that he has a legacy at all is a testament to his gifts as opposed to his choices.

TKO said:

Anyone who thinks his music not being available on spotify, youtube, apple, is not hurting his legacy is delusional.

The way I feel, some people love Prince, appreicate his contributions but can also give less than about the talented brother's musical legacy and will not lose sleep over the fact of its fading in history. Maybe it will & maybe it won't, but its destiny belongs to The Fates. Beethoven? Elvis? Beatles? Hendrix? Vandross? Daft Punk? Taylor Swift? Katie Perry? KRS-1? Jazz? Salsa? Regge and ska?

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Spotify, Youtube, and Apple are forever, though, and essential to the promotion of musics in perpetuity? Are those The Fates?

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Who will really appreciate, and what will the price of tea in China be tomorrow?

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I hope the curators take care with where they place his music for sale. For now I may be flippant about the music-history-preservation angle of things. My point is that I've no investment in those sales & promotion games. You ain't got no CDs & want to hear some Prince? Why not give Tidal a try for a while!

TKO said:

Anyone who thinks his music not being available on spotify, youtube, apple, is not hurting his legacy is delusional.

how old r u?

because it's not delusion... it's the reality now a days...

TKO said:

bigtimefan said:

CynicKill said:

It depends what's ment by the term "Legacy"

His musical legacy will go on forever. He has too many great songs that will be covered and sampled until the end of time. "When Doves Cry" is going nowhere. People could releate to the song 35 years ago... the lyrics will still ring true in another 30 years.

Teenagers of today might not know who Prince is. That means nothing. Are teenagers listening to the Rolling Stones? Miles Davis? When was Stevie Wonders last hit? Hendix didn't have many hit singles.

All it takes is the right song in the right Movie/Game and the world takes notice.

As a black musician who signed a 360 deal to one of the biggest record labels in the world at the ripe age of 18, Prince had little to no control over his work when he started.

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This is such bullshit. There was no 360 deal, and Prince had a fuckton of control.

My mom (who likes all eras and types of music except rap) only knows two prince songs and she is 61 (I am 41).. It is not just a youth thing; its an accessibility thing.

It may take today's teenagers until they reach their adult years to discover/appreciate older music, but if it is unaccessible how are they even going to get exposed to it.

I am annoyed as the next person on this board with the dominance of the youth over record sales. The youth movement used to be a great way to keep music fresh but there was a balance between mature artists and younger artists. Today there is no balance. Music for adults is ignored by the industry unless its country music (which I can't stand).

And I admit that a lot of music today I am not crazy about. (I like some artists like Bruno Marz but none of it really lights my fire especially in the genre of rock.) But they are an important demographic that will chart the course of things for years to come. They need to be educated on what's out there beyond their bubble of synthetic pop. Prince's inaccessibility is not helping matters. He did make a mistake but it is fixable. And maybe his mistake will eventually look like a calculated move to create a mystery that later generations are able to more easily solve. But that will only happen if his music is accessible to anyone who might accidentally stumble on it. These people are not going to jump through hoops to get his music especially if they don't know how good he is or what hoops to jump through. Not just the under 20 crowd but anyone who slept on his music throughout the years.

Noodled24 said:

It depends what's ment by the term "Legacy"

His musical legacy will go on forever. He has too many great songs that will be covered and sampled until the end of time. "When Doves Cry" is going nowhere. People could releate to the song 35 years ago... the lyrics will still ring true in another 30 years.

Teenagers of today might not know who Prince is. That means nothing. Are teenagers listening to the Rolling Stones? Miles Davis? When was Stevie Wonders last hit? Hendix didn't have many hit singles.

All it takes is the right song in the right Movie/Game and the world takes notice.

I used to be a sinatra fanatic. Difference here is that Sinatra's music is super easy to get. NOne of his lesser known music is buried in bootlegs. The thousands of songs that Frank sang are easy to purchase and accessible everywhere and always have been. His albums were remastered when he was still alive. His music is constantly in movies and Italian restaurants.

I became a fan of Frank Sinatra ironically right before he died. Ironically, I was driving home from the airport after flying back from Las Vegas (I am not kidding) when I heard on the radio that Frank had died. That previous week in Vegas I purchased Frank Sinatra's "Only the Lonely" album at a record store. After he died I bought quite a few Sinatra albums. Within a couple years, I owned 30 Sinatra CD's and I didn't use the internet to find the music. pLus, the dude's movies were everywhere. He is on I-tunes in abundance. Sinatra clips are not removed from the internet. His family did a spectacular job of keeping his legacy alive but not coming off as exploitative.

anangellooksdown said:

I believe it's doubtful after everything that has happened this year, that Prince will be forgotten in the eyes of the public. And musically, it's interesting how the real big successful talented musicians who had great songs...how future generations bring it alive again. I remember always liking the Frank Sinatra my father played in our house or on the radio when I was a teen. Then in my 20s I was lying on a blanket at the beach when sudddnly I heard a young group of people on a blanket near me BLARE a Frank Sinatra tune. I thought that was interesting and wanted to acknowledge that I knew that music too! And really like it! And that year Sinatra music made a huge comeback with the whole catalogue - and it stuck around for decades...is probably my still here a bit in my opinion. These next generations have ears too, and as music perhaps becomes less and less melodic, I highly doubt Prince's music will disappear.

purplerabbithole said:

My mom (who likes all eras and types of music except rap) only knows two prince songs and she is 61 (I am 41).. It is not just a youth thing; its an accessibility thing.

It may take today's teenagers until they reach their adult years to discover/appreciate older music, but if it is unaccessible how are they even going to get exposed to it.

I am annoyed as the next person on this board with the dominance of the youth over record sales. The youth movement used to be a great way to keep music fresh but there was a balance between mature artists and younger artists. Today there is no balance. Music for adults is ignored by the industry unless its country music (which I can't stand).

And I admit that a lot of music today I am not crazy about. (I like some artists like Bruno Marz but none of it really lights my fire especially in the genre of rock.) But they are an important demographic that will chart the course of things for years to come. They need to be educated on what's out there beyond their bubble of synthetic pop. Prince's inaccessibility is not helping matters. He did make a mistake but it is fixable. And maybe his mistake will eventually look like a calculated move to create a mystery that later generations are able to more easily solve. But that will only happen if his music is accessible to anyone who might accidentally stumble on it. These people are not going to jump through hoops to get his music especially if they don't know how good he is or what hoops to jump through. Not just the under 20 crowd but anyone who slept on his music throughout the years.

Well, I suppose what I'm saying is that you can't have your cake and eat it (in general, I'm not aiming that at you personally)

His music can't be easily accessible AND generate millions of dollars a year.

If his music is on streaming sites then you sacrifice the big money to be made from albums.

Likewise, if the intent is to make money from the catalog, it can't be so easily accessible on streaming sites... because you'd need 100 million streams to net half a million dollars. Paisley needs $100 million ideally in the next 6 months.

Maybe you can if you do this... Give everyone a taste for his music by making it super accessible and highly promoted for a short period of time. And once they get a taste for it, then make it only accessible by paying for it. Even if people do rip off his music in that short period of time, at least a fan base might be built up.

Kind of like how Disney puts out limited edition DVD's of classic movies that used to be easily accessible (like Bambi). The fan base was already there.

Noodled24 said:

purplerabbithole said:

My mom (who likes all eras and types of music except rap) only knows two prince songs and she is 61 (I am 41).. It is not just a youth thing; its an accessibility thing.

It may take today's teenagers until they reach their adult years to discover/appreciate older music, but if it is unaccessible how are they even going to get exposed to it.

I am annoyed as the next person on this board with the dominance of the youth over record sales. The youth movement used to be a great way to keep music fresh but there was a balance between mature artists and younger artists. Today there is no balance. Music for adults is ignored by the industry unless its country music (which I can't stand).

And I admit that a lot of music today I am not crazy about. (I like some artists like Bruno Marz but none of it really lights my fire especially in the genre of rock.) But they are an important demographic that will chart the course of things for years to come. They need to be educated on what's out there beyond their bubble of synthetic pop. Prince's inaccessibility is not helping matters. He did make a mistake but it is fixable. And maybe his mistake will eventually look like a calculated move to create a mystery that later generations are able to more easily solve. But that will only happen if his music is accessible to anyone who might accidentally stumble on it. These people are not going to jump through hoops to get his music especially if they don't know how good he is or what hoops to jump through. Not just the under 20 crowd but anyone who slept on his music throughout the years.

Well, I suppose what I'm saying is that you can't have your cake and eat it (in general, I'm not aiming that at you personally)

His music can't be easily accessible AND generate millions of dollars a year.

If his music is on streaming sites then you sacrifice the big money to be made from albums.

Likewise, if the intent is to make money from the catalog, it can't be so easily accessible on streaming sites... because you'd need 100 million streams to net half a million dollars. Paisley needs $100 million ideally in the next 6 months.

[Edited 12/3/16 9:17am]

purplerabbithole said:

Maybe you can if you do this... Give everyone a taste for his music by making it super accessible, cheap (streaming), and highly promoted for a short period of time. And once they get a taste for it, then make it only accessible by paying for it via CD's and I-tunes.. Even if people do rip off his music in that short period of time, at least a fan base might be built up.

Plus, Prince's massive catalogue would help in this department. Even if people stole 20 of his songs, there are still several left to purchase legitimately.

Kind of like how Disney puts out limited edition DVD's of classic movies that used to be easily accessible (like Bambi). The fan base was already there.

Noodled24 said:

Well, I suppose what I'm saying is that you can't have your cake and eat it (in general, I'm not aiming that at you personally)

His music can't be easily accessible AND generate millions of dollars a year.

If his music is on streaming sites then you sacrifice the big money to be made from albums.

Likewise, if the intent is to make money from the catalog, it can't be so easily accessible on streaming sites... because you'd need 100 million streams to net half a million dollars. Paisley needs $100 million ideally in the next 6 months.

[Edited 12/3/16 9:17am]

purplerabbithole said:

Maybe you can if you do this... Give everyone a taste for his music by making it super accessible and highly promoted for a short period of time. And once they get a taste for it, then make it only accessible by paying for it. Even if people do rip off his music in that short period of time, at least a fan base might be built up.

Kind of like how Disney puts out limited edition DVD's of classic movies that used to be easily accessible (like Bambi). The fan base was already there.

Maybe, but it'd be impossible (not to mention annoying) if they put it all out there. Then retracted it all... peoples playlists going missing etc. They'd have to do it every couple of years.

I do think his music videos should be on Youtube/Vevo etc. He has many more than people realise and they're never going to generate any real cash. I can't think of a reason not to have them available.

Amen, about the music videos. I never understood why those were pulled. People have never bought music videos unless they are obsessive fans.

Noodled24 said:

purplerabbithole said:

Maybe you can if you do this... Give everyone a taste for his music by making it super accessible and highly promoted for a short period of time. And once they get a taste for it, then make it only accessible by paying for it. Even if people do rip off his music in that short period of time, at least a fan base might be built up.

Kind of like how Disney puts out limited edition DVD's of classic movies that used to be easily accessible (like Bambi). The fan base was already there.

Maybe, but it'd be impossible (not to mention annoying) if they put it all out there. Then retracted it all... peoples playlists going missing etc. They'd have to do it every couple of years.

I do think his music videos should be on Youtube/Vevo etc. He has many more than people realise and they're never going to generate any real cash. I can't think of a reason not to have them available.

But how many comments and how many people are actually watching the clips on youtube of Prince. When Beyonce has 300 million hits on quite a few of her songs, and Prince has less than 100,000 on most of his, that's a problem. His highest number of hits is approximately 40 million for the While my guitar gently weeps solo. To me, that is a red flag. I talked to a man my age (41) recently and we were talking about Prince. He respected his guitar playing and liked Purple Rain but knew very very little about his music. I recommended Prince's funky music (this dude and my brother were listening to quasi-funk bands from today) and he acted as if he didn't know Prince did funk music.

Ingela said:

I highly doubt his legacy will fade. Quite the opposite. There will be mainstream docs and movies. Will be included in contemporary music music sites, top 100 lists for the foreseeable future. There is just so much to explore and study. He's a deep subject for inquiry on a lot of levels. So I wouldn't worry about his legacy. He did just fine. Actually all his supposed "mistakes" he made while he was alive in dealing with contemporary audiences make him even more fascinating now. On Youtube i came along across a Madouse 8 post and sat there listening and reading what people were saying. And it just made me think how even on a side-project that contemporary audiences sat on, is hugely interesting. The Madhouse project alone a great eye opener. It's great music and even while he was alive undervalued and underappreciated by his contemporaries. And it's all held up so well. A lot of stuff for people to discover. For new generations to appreciate. He's only going to grow larger. Its like when Obi-Wan fights Darth Vader, he says: You can't win, Vader. If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine. That's Prince's legacy [Edited 12/3/16 9:33am]