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Thread started 11/04/16 11:27pm

kewlschool

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What album should they release from the vault?

We know about Prince 4ever and Purple Rain remaster.

The question is what should they release after that?

I would say that they release a new album with more current songs or newer songs that may play better to radio.

Then they should release Roadhouse Garden as a Prince and the Revolution album (Perhaps Christmas next year).

What do you think would be the best release of Prince's music?

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Reply #1 posted 11/04/16 11:50pm

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Roadhouse Garden: Prince & the Revolution
[Edited 11/4/16 23:51pm]
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Reply #2 posted 11/05/16 1:52am

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All of the "finished" unreleased projects ....
Camille LP, dream factory, crystal ball, roadhouse garden, 1989's rave, madhouse 24, etc etc
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Reply #3 posted 11/05/16 2:50am

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I'd like to see those finished projects 'wrapped' for release.
As to the rest, I'd love to see it opened, as per Paisley Park, as a resource, a research centre so one can go into it and listen to things, see notes attached from the period and from the archivists.

A kind of version of what happens to literary drafts and papers when authors die or when living authors donate their papers to a museum for researchers to access.

The format of posthumous 'Letters and Papers' is well established historically and, with Dylan having recently sold his version of the vault, prior to being elevated to Nobel Poet Laureate, his demos, notes, versions, whatever, are now part of this form of documentation.
While Prince's work may take decades to earn the same acclaim, it ultimately will and it seems to me that since PP is already a museum, that this kind of development is an appropriate 'shortcut' to that kind of positioning of his legacy.
It might be good to offer it as an online resource which would accord with his own pioneering of such in the 90's (Interactive etc) and it *might* be good to hold the unfinished vault stuff permanently and irrevocably away from 'release' by record companies in order to differentiate it, keep its integrity as unfinished activity. All of this would probably appeal to The Artist (sic) because no artist wants to have what was unfinished presented as 'product' and, indeed, the history of estates allowing this to happen with unfinished work has not resulted in praise or indeed even the reward of sales.

I'm sure this is among the options being considered and even if it isn't yet, I've no doubt that there will be approaches from universities and museums in due course which will result in PP thinking in that direction with at least some of the archive.

The term 'The Vault' has tended so far to place Prince's work in the metaphors of the music industry but as appreciation of themes and threads in his work grows in culture beyond fandom, I expect to see Prince's lyrical themes examined, for example as this is one of the very underrated aspects of his works, being as the musical/musicianship aspect is so energetically acclaimed.

He was a great writer.


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Reply #4 posted 11/05/16 4:32am

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Roadhouse Garden was eventually retitled All My Dreams, wasn't it?

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Reply #5 posted 11/05/16 5:48am

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No I think it still will be titled Roadhouse Garden.
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Reply #6 posted 11/05/16 6:43am

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todesm said:

All of the "finished" unreleased projects ....
Camille LP, dream factory, crystal ball, roadhouse garden, 1989's rave, madhouse 24, etc etc


Exactly these!
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Reply #7 posted 11/05/16 6:50am

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I think a large expansive box set of unreleased (but finished) albums would be the best way to go. that way you can 'sneak in' things like the Flesh and Madhouse stuff as i doubt these type of recordings would find a commercial audience anywhere else. as well as the more well regarded stuff like Camille, CB, Rave.

I woulld save dream facytory and Roadhouse Garden for a unique releases

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Reply #8 posted 11/05/16 9:05am

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bluegangsta said:

Roadhouse Garden was eventually retitled All My Dreams, wasn't it?


No, that was a theory, but never conclusive. But the song was thought to be considered as a track on it later on.

To the OP: I tend to agree with the general consensus so far: Camille, DF, CB, Rave, Roadhouse, Madhouse 24. Get those Vanity & Time albums out. There has to be more Revolution tracks, which could be compiled into one large album, if they were just tracks never set to a tracklist for a specific project.

In 1999, prince told Larry King that he released CB to 'clean up' the bootleg market a bit. That's exactly how they should approach some of this stuff. Yes, there are full on projects sitting there. But, they could use boots like The Work as a guide as to what to pull out, compile, and release. It'd instantly negate 2nd or 3rd generation boots we've all endured and have a clean studio version. I don't care what it's called - Prince The Vault 1980-1983 is fine for all I care.

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Reply #9 posted 11/05/16 9:10am

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Don't forget: "Under the Apple Tree!" thumbs up!

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Reply #10 posted 11/05/16 12:13pm

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as long as they rleased as they r ..i dont care

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Reply #11 posted 11/05/16 6:02pm

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I totally agree with that last statement nothing should be done to the unreleased tracks.the feel of say the 83 version on Extraloveable is raw gritty but it's all Prince. The converting Paisley to a resource center for educational purposes is cool we know not before they milk the vault very slowly the upcoming Hits is a tease in the fact that like it has been said the unreleased tracks could easily been put in the proper order by the many sources that already exist a box set would be smart in the fact that basically all the Camille tracks have been released some of the DF and CB material got released on the second version of Crystal Ball between 82/83 there is a album worth of material prince talked about the time, vanity and madhouse tracks I'm sure are low on the priority list a volume set of unreleased music done in each particular year will be the only way to put all his music in some kind of sensible order.
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Reply #12 posted 11/05/16 6:36pm

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Poorlovelycomputer said:

I totally agree with that last statement nothing should be done to the unreleased tracks.the feel of say the 83 version on Extraloveable is raw gritty but it's all Prince. The converting Paisley to a resource center for educational purposes is cool we know not before they milk the vault very slowly the upcoming Hits is a tease in the fact that like it has been said the unreleased tracks could easily been put in the proper order by the many sources that already exist a box set would be smart in the fact that basically all the Camille tracks have been released some of the DF and CB material got released on the second version of Crystal Ball between 82/83 there is a album worth of material prince talked about the time, vanity and madhouse tracks I'm sure are low on the priority list a volume set of unreleased music done in each particular year will be the only way to put all his music in some kind of sensible order. [Edited 11/5/16 18:16pm] [Edited 11/5/16 18:21pm] [Edited 11/5/16 18:33pm]

yeahthat thumbs up! and live shows dating back to 1980 on cd and dvd/blu-ray would be really sweet beg

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Reply #13 posted 11/05/16 6:44pm

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Reply #14 posted 11/05/16 6:56pm

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The unreleased album I would like to hear more than any other is Welcome 2 America.

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Reply #15 posted 11/05/16 7:16pm

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All of the "finished" unreleased projects .... Camille LP, dream factory, crystal ball, roadhouse garden, 1989's rave, madhouse 24, etc etc

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Reply #16 posted 11/05/16 8:26pm

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undergroundFUNK said:

Roadhouse Garden: Prince & the Revolution [Edited 11/4/16 23:51pm]

I think it would be the next logical release because of the huge sales they are going to get for the Purple Rain remaster (huge sales relative to today standards.).

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Reply #17 posted 11/05/16 8:31pm

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TrivialPursuit said:

bluegangsta said:

Roadhouse Garden was eventually retitled All My Dreams, wasn't it?


No, that was a theory, but never conclusive. But the song was thought to be considered as a track on it later on.

To the OP: I tend to agree with the general consensus so far: Camille, DF, CB, Rave, Roadhouse, Madhouse 24. Get those Vanity & Time albums out. There has to be more Revolution tracks, which could be compiled into one large album, if they were just tracks never set to a tracklist for a specific project.

In 1999, prince told Larry King that he released CB to 'clean up' the bootleg market a bit. That's exactly how they should approach some of this stuff. Yes, there are full on projects sitting there. But, they could use boots like The Work as a guide as to what to pull out, compile, and release. It'd instantly negate 2nd or 3rd generation boots we've all endured and have a clean studio version. I don't care what it's called - Prince The Vault 1980-1983 is fine for all I care.

I think deluxe box sets are a good way to go for non album release material. However, if they release an album like Roadhouse Garden and there is more than one version of a song they could release other versions with a box set for a specific time period like Vault 80-83 etc. It's a way to "sale" the song twice in a way. But make the hardcore fans happy.

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Reply #18 posted 11/06/16 3:20am

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3rdeyeboy said:

I would love a 'Prince - Concepts' series. Projects of unreleased or original layout projects. Notably:

The Rebels


Roadhouse Garden


Dream Factory


The Flesh


Camille


Crystal Ball


Rave Un2 the Joy Fantastic (89)


The Dawn


Madhouse 24


Gold
Heart


The Undertaker


The Tora Tora Experience


Happy Tears


Madrid 2 Chicago


High


In All My Dreams


Last December


Beautiful Strange


20ten (Deluxe)


Live out Loud


Hit & Run Remixed


Free Urself


Black is the new black

Plus things like...


The Time - The Time (by Prince)


The Time - What Time is it? (By Prince)


The Time - Corporate World


The Time - Old Dogs New Tricks


Vanity 6 2nd


Jill Jones 2nd


Sheila E 4th



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Reply #19 posted 11/06/16 3:24am

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bluegangsta said:

The unreleased album I would like to hear more than any other is Welcome 2 America.


I'm curious about that one, too. Although I would love to hear any unreleased material, I'm particularly interested in what he was working on in more recent years.
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Reply #20 posted 11/06/16 5:52am

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Madrid 2 Chicago. Well obviously that ain't gonna be the first thing they release, but I want this more than anything else!

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Reply #21 posted 11/06/16 6:13am

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None of the ones that already have a large number of the tracks out there on albums he released during his lifetime. Crystal Ball, in particularily, would be something I would not be so interested in, as just about every track from it has been released.

To be honest, at this point I don't even care about getting "official" versions of the leaked outtakes that you can find in "near CD" sound quality. The more unheard content they're going to put out, the happier I am going to be.

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Reply #22 posted 11/06/16 11:25am

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Dream Factory first!
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Reply #23 posted 11/06/16 12:02pm

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as long as thet arent changed

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Reply #24 posted 11/06/16 12:08pm

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I would be interested in the follow up that Prince spoke about years ago to 1999.

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Reply #25 posted 11/06/16 12:55pm

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They should respect his wishes and release the Piano & Mic show from Atlanta after he spoke about that at the last Paisley party
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Reply #26 posted 11/06/16 2:17pm

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interrorgator said:

I would be interested in the follow up that Prince spoke about years ago to 1999.

I always wondered what were the songs on there and if he even gave it a title yet!!!

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Reply #27 posted 11/06/16 2:19pm

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todesm said:

All of the "finished" unreleased projects .... Camille LP, dream factory, crystal ball, roadhouse garden, 1989's rave, madhouse 24, etc etc



would love to hear these!!

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Reply #28 posted 11/06/16 2:20pm

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all of the above and the release of live concert series as albums

[Edited 11/6/16 14:20pm]

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seanski said:

interrorgator said:

I would be interested in the follow up that Prince spoke about years ago to 1999.

I always wondered what were the songs on there and if he even gave it a title yet!!!

2000.

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