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Poorlovelycomputer said:

In the 90's every album had at least one strictly rock track(I like it there,fury,endorphinemachine) peach from the hits collection. Like the rebels project with the popularity of Rock in the 90's did prince miss the opportunity to tap into a new young audience?

Er... what's the question already?

You may not want to create threads when u're drunk in the future

databank said:

Poorlovelycomputer said:

In the 90's every album had at least one strictly rock track(I like it there,fury,endorphinemachine) peach from the hits collection. Like the rebels project with the popularity of Rock in the 90's did prince miss the opportunity to tap into a new young audience?

Er... what's the question already?

You may not want to create threads when u're drunk in the future

^^^

In response, maybe. I love when Prince does rock (Bambi is my favourite), but I never really saw him primarily as rock artist. Just how I don't primarily see him as an r&b artist, or a funk artist. He's just....Prince.

I'd of killed for a full album of Prince doing rock along the lines of Bambi, Endorphinmachine etc, but I don't think his 'kind' of rock would of fit in with the '90s seen as most of that stuff was either grunge in America or britpop/indie in England. He wouldn't of really fit in I don't think.

Poorlovelycomputer said:

Commenting after sarcasm

Sarcasm aside, I honestly have NO idea what your question was, or if u even asked any question at all

Poorlovelycomputer said:

Prince and a more ROCK oriented album in the 90's [Edited 11/2/16 4:48am]

Well, he did two of those. The Undertaker of course was only released on video so it sort of doesn't count but C&D enjoyed a proper audio release, and it was met with indifference.

Honestly I remember back then that I felt DWD was the perfect single to seduce all those Morrissey/Oasis/Suede/Pulp/etc. fans, while I Like It There would have been perfect for those Pixies/Nirvana/Dinosaur Jr. folks: one single for the UK's Brit Pop fans and another one for the US' Grunge fans. The fact that P made a video for ILIT may indicate he saw the potential this double combo offered.

But despite P doing a few TV shows, neither himself nor WB were really interested in promoting the project and it was quickly forgotten. It was, after all, their "divorce" album.

And I remember critics were poor, probably because the rest of the album didn't live-up to the expectations raised by the first three tracks. The video for DWD was played on TV for a couple of weeks in France, but I don't think the radios played it. Prince just wasn't "hot" anymore.

But certainly, in a world where Prince and WB wouldn't have been at odds with each other, heavy promotion of DWD and ILIT as a second single could have done the trick.

Poorlovelycomputer said:

Precisely what I was getting at with rock being so popular in the 90's he produced some great rock tracks here and there but other groups and singers were in the spotlight where he once was

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But... hasn't rock been pretty popular in every decade beginning with the '50s?

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databank said:

Poorlovelycomputer said:

Commenting after sarcasm

Sarcasm aside, I honestly have NO idea what your question was, or if u even asked any question at all

The question was clearly asked in the initial post.

Like the rebels project with the popularity of Rock in the 90's did prince miss the opportunity to tap into a new young audience?

I think he did. I would've loved for him to do an all rock album. With his guitar and drum skills, he would've killed it! Would've an acoustic album from him too.

Bambi is my favorite rock out track, too

"i knew from the start/That I loved u with All My Heart. . ."

Poorlovelycomputer said:

In the 90's every album had at least one strictly rock track(I like it there,fury,endorphinemachine) peach from the hits collection. Like the rebels project with the popularity of Rock in the 90's did prince miss the opportunity to tap into a new young audience?

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Prince missed many opportunities to expand his audience. I'm not so sure that not doing more rock-oriented music was really one of them.

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Staying with Warner Bros. in the '90s would've helped him tap into a wider audience. Leaving a major label and subsequently mismanaging most aspects of his promotion/marketing from that point on effectively wiped him off the mainstream map for the rest of his life ("greatest hits" tours being the notable exception).

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More rock would've been cool though, just from a listening standpoint!

endiadj said:

databank said:

Sarcasm aside, I honestly have NO idea what your question was, or if u even asked any question at all

The question was clearly asked in the initial post.

Like the rebels project with the popularity of Rock in the 90's did prince miss the opportunity to tap into a new young audience?

Er... I'm sorry but this isn't proper English. This sentence is totally ununderstable, the Rebels being a project from 1979 and there being no punctuation whatsoever, we do not know where a sentence ends and where one begins, and we do not understand what The Rebels have to do with the 90's either.

databank said:

endiadj said:

The question was clearly asked in the initial post.

Like the rebels project with the popularity of Rock in the 90's did prince miss the opportunity to tap into a new young audience?

Er... I'm sorry but this isn't proper English. This sentence is totally ununderstable, the Rebels being a project from 1979 and there being no punctuation whatsoever, we do not know where a sentence ends and where one begins, and we do not understand what The Rebels have to do with the 90's either.

I don't think "ununderstandable" is proper English either, in fact I'm sure it's not even a real word.

Baduizm said:

databank said:

Er... I'm sorry but this isn't proper English. This sentence is totally ununderstable, the Rebels being a project from 1979 and there being no punctuation whatsoever, we do not know where a sentence ends and where one begins, and we do not understand what The Rebels have to do with the 90's either.

I don't think "ununderstandable" is proper English either, in fact I'm sure it's not even a real word.

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Come to think of it, "Ununderstandable" would make a cool band name!

Poorlovelycomputer said:

Prince and a more ROCK oriented album in the 90's

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Dig it. C&D is also very guitar-orientated.

NouveauDance said:

Poorlovelycomputer said:

Prince and a more ROCK oriented album in the 90's

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Dig it. C&D is also very guitar-orientated.

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Re: "Undertaker" - I'm thinking the OP meant an album that was commercially available.

I guess I know what you mean.Yes, I wished he would dive even more into rock... I always dreamed of seeing him doing something with P.J.Harvey.

[Edited 11/2/16 10:19am]

endiadj said:

databank said:

Sarcasm aside, I honestly have NO idea what your question was, or if u even asked any question at all

The question was clearly asked in the initial post.

Like the rebels project with the popularity of Rock in the 90's did prince miss the opportunity to tap into a new young audience?

I think he did. I would've loved for him to do an all rock album. With his guitar and drum skills, he would've killed it! Would've an acoustic album from him too.

But he did - both of those things!!! haha

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Chaos and Disorder is a straight rock album with only a few songs not being in that genre

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The Truth is an almost totally acoustic album that he did only a few years after Chaos and Disorder.

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They're both pretty freaking good too.

Baduizm said:

databank said:

Er... I'm sorry but this isn't proper English. This sentence is totally ununderstable, the Rebels being a project from 1979 and there being no punctuation whatsoever, we do not know where a sentence ends and where one begins, and we do not understand what The Rebels have to do with the 90's either.

I don't think "ununderstandable" is proper English either, in fact I'm sure it's not even a real word.

Indeed, my bad, but anyone can understand this word I've invented by mistake, though. Few among us are native English speakers so my point really wasn't about talking proper academic English. My point is making yourself understood by paying attention to:

- Punctuation

- The global intelligibility of your sentences

People who just. makesentences Like this, are making ithard? for undersant For others peoples and do u understand. Whyitisthatso?

Whether the language is academically correct or not, one shouldn't have to frown and think, trying to figure out what the person means. It is quite often that I open a thread and read an affirmative sentence ending with a question mark, making me wonder whether it's a statement or a question. And I also often find OP's writing sentences that merge totally unrelated concepts in such a way that I do not know for sure what the topic is. It's a waste of my time.

I can possibly find this acceptable if it's a reply because one can easily skip in meaningless reply, but if you're gonna create a thread and launch a whole topic all by yourself, solliciting people's attention, you can at the very least take a minute to reread yourself and ask yourself whether what you've written makes complete sense or not.

Poorlovelycomputer said:

A blues and rock album with pj would have been nice:)

With whom?

Poorlovelycomputer said:

Prince simply lost some of the black audience he had with Purple Rain after releasing the 85&86 releases.SPACE AFTER PERIOD + CAPITAL LETTER AT BEGINNING OF SENTENCEsure everyone knows the hits off those albums but other acts begin to tap into the spot he once held exampleUNDERLINED SENTENCE MAKES NO SENSE AT ALL: the whole new jack swing movement,SPACE AFTER COMMAgansta rap)PERIOD AT END OF SENTENCE + CAPITAL LETTER AT BEGINNING OF NEXTthe rebels were brought up because that concept obviously was something he was considering doing in 1979, which is totally unrelated to a) the 90's and b) Prince doing rock (given that it was not specifically a rock project: it clearly was a post-punk sort of thing, merging glam rock, punk, new wave and disco)

Genesia said:

Poorlovelycomputer said:

A blues and rock album with pj would have been nice:)

With whom?

PJ Harvey I guess. Oddest idea ever, though

Poorlovelycomputer said:

In the 90's every album had at least one strictly rock track(I like it there,fury,endorphinemachine) peach from the hits collection. Like the rebels project with the popularity of Rock in the 90's did prince miss the opportunity to tap into a new young audience?

I think that´s a very interesting question and thread topic, and yes, I agree with you, to some extent.

I remember the transition of Prince from Funk artist to a more Rock and Pop oriented phenomenon, to the point of being accused of neglecting his black Funk roots but that is a whole different topic. What I found surprising in the 90s is that someone as talented as Prince, with his guitar skills and whatnot, did not manage to catch the interest of the younger audience , like the generation x youngsters and beyond, and I think it had partly to do with him being this squeaky clean person as far as attire and sound goes....the way he dressed, the way he´d mix his sound, the clean , almost sterile sound of the early to mid 90s..I mean I liked it , don´t get me wrong, but in the era of Nirvana, Soundgarden, Smashing Pumpkins and later Queen of the Stone Age and Foo Fighters, his music probably sounded a bit too clean.

Some of my friends who were into rougher, rawer rock were very surprised when I made them listen to The Undertaker for the first time. They were blown away by the sound and the guitar skills and the minimalistic approach of just one drummer, a bassist and Prince on guitar.

Sure, every album he released had at least one rock track on it but they often sounded very clean and sterile compared to the raw energy of , say, Let´s Go Crazy , which was recorded in a warehouse in Minnesota, not in some big fancy studio.

But then again, I´m not a musician and can´t really comment on the technical details.

Poorlovelycomputer said:

In the 90's every album had at least one strictly rock track(I like it there,fury,endorphinemachine) peach from the hits collection. Like the rebels project with the popularity of Rock in the 90's did prince miss the opportunity to tap into a new young audience?

I wouldn't consider anything on Symbol, Come or Newpower Soul to be strictly rock.

"Fury" is from the 3121 album released in 2006.

novabrkr said:

"Fury" is from the 3121 album released in 2006.

Oh, yeah, and that, too.