I recently got my first boot of the Lovesexy tour since it was so legendary. I am still trying to decide what I think about it. I never heard Prince go so long with 1 minute versions of so many songs in the first half played at a much speeded up tempo. If the music wasn't so organized and brilliant, you would think everyone was on speed! At the halfway point, when he finally got to the Lovesexy songs, he did give tender care to many of these and they came off well in concert. I finally concluded that the speeded part may have been an artistic decision in that many of them were his dirtiest songs and they were a prelude of all his vices to set up for the Lovesexy conflict that was to come in the second half of the concert. When I think of it that way, I really admire his audacity as it certainly wasn't a commercial decision. Perhaps that is why it has been widely noted that European audiences loved the tour in contrast to the American crowds who just wanted the hits.

gandorb said:

not my favorite era, but I went to the concert. I was okay with the feminine stuff but kinda thought he went too far dressing like a woman. Anyone agree?

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bigtimefan said:

I have yet to listen the whole album, only know Anna, I Wish U and Alphabet, in regard to the tour, it seems like a wonderful live concert; he seems in his creative peak, although you can make your case for Sign O' The Times Tour.

bigtimefan said:

Latin said:

Latin said:

bigtimefan said:

not my favorite era, but I went to the concert. I was okay with the feminine stuff but kinda thought he went too far dressing like a woman. Anyone agree?

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Let us all discuss this topic as well regarding Prince and his expression related to what "bigtimefan" stated. Recently, a thread was posted that was supportive of Prince's unique gender fluid expression and moderator "Luv4U" removed it from this forum. There are some here that embrace this unique contribution that Prince made to society as he dismantled social norms. Unfortunately, there are others who are against this. Let's discuss why Prince fans/fams may or may not agree on Prince's bold choice to break down gender rules. A new thread would be ideal, but it may be removed...

It's interesting... but sometimes it came across as a little to much for my taste.

214 said:

Latin said:

Latin said:

Let us all discuss this topic as well regarding Prince and his expression related to what "bigtimefan" stated. [If you have an issue, take it up with the mod in question snip - luv4u] There are some here that embrace this unique contribution that Prince made to society as he dismantled social norms. Unfortunately, there are others who are against this. Let's discuss why Prince fans/fams may or may not agree on Prince's bold choice to break down gender rules. [Snip - luv4u]

Please send an org note if you think this new topic related to Prince's bold statement throughout the years regarding gender expression deserves its own thread. Thank u!

Hey Latin. I'm not looking for a fight...I am the most liberal chick in the world and have NO issues with homophobia, etc.

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I bought the Lovesexy tour program with the above image on the cover. Everyone who's seen is, says the same thing: "oh, is Prince gay?"

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IMO there's a fine line between gender expression and just wanting to be outrageous for attention. Way back then even, I never got the vibe Prince was gay or transgender, and for ME he pushed the envelope too far since he was just playing a "role". It certainly wasn't a big deal though, I understand the value of "shock and awe" with publicity, etc. and continued being a bigtimefan!

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However, if the same photo was of Freddie Mercury I would have loved it as that was HIS persona.

bigtimefan said:

IMO there's a fine line between gender expression and just wanting to be outrageous for attention. Way back then even, I never got the vibe Prince was gay or transgender, and for ME he pushed the envelope too far since he was just playing a "role". It certainly wasn't a big deal though, I understand the value of "shock and awe" with publicity, etc. and continued being a bigtimefan!

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However, if the same photo was of Freddie Mercury I would have loved it as that was HIS persona.

But, what if he wasn't "just playing a 'role'"?

FlyOnTheWall said:

bigtimefan said:

IMO there's a fine line between gender expression and just wanting to be outrageous for attention. Way back then even, I never got the vibe Prince was gay or transgender, and for ME he pushed the envelope too far since he was just playing a "role". It certainly wasn't a big deal though, I understand the value of "shock and awe" with publicity, etc. and continued being a bigtimefan!

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However, if the same photo was of Freddie Mercury I would have loved it as that was HIS persona.

But, what if he wasn't "just playing a 'role'"?

What are you saying? You think in private Prince was transgender, homosexual, bisexual, or wore women's clothes?

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I guess it wouldn't have mattered to me, but IMO a lot of his lyrics wouldn't make the same sense.

bigtimefan said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

But, what if he wasn't "just playing a 'role'"?

What are you saying? You think in private Prince was transgender, homosexual, bisexual, or wore women's clothes?

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I guess it wouldn't have mattered to me, but IMO a lot of his lyrics wouldn't make the same sense.

What I'm saying is that I really don't care what Prince was doing in the privacy of his bedroom. As you said, it wouldn't have mattered to me. Personally, I LOVED his over-the-top costumes during the LoveSexy era. I especially loved his affinity for polka dots. His hair was to DIE for. His Mozart outfit was too stinking cute!! And, he and Cat were SIZZLING HOT. BTW: I will NEVER believe that they were not lovers, but that's another Oprah Winfrey show.

214 said:

This is one of the best era's of Prince, to me! I miss Prince!

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I LOVED the Lovesexy Band. I always felt it was one of Prince's best bands!

And I loved Cat. She is still my favorite Prince dancer. Her presence on stage and in the videos brought something raw and gave that "sista" vibe to Prince's band and persona around that time (SOTT/Lovesexy) era.

all7even said:

This era fell into the right timing based off SOTT, I think the album holds its own and aged well, and oh yeah Dortmund

I mean it really was the same band. With the exception of a couple of people. SOTT/Lovesexy kinda blended together. Just a costume change, LOL!

GhostChick said:

Lovesexy was my first concert , the reason it means so much to me Lovesexy is the one till my day is done. The album is in my top 5 and i don't skip a song. Even thought on the CD its one song

GhostChick said:

I LOVED the Lovesexy Band. I always felt it was one of Prince's best bands!

And I loved Cat. She is still my favorite Prince dancer. Her presence on stage and in the videos brought something raw and gave that "sista" vibe to Prince's band and persona around that time (SOTT/Lovesexy) era.

YES!!!!!! Cat was THE BOMB. She and Prince were HAWT!!!! None of his subsequent dancers ever came close to Cat. A lot of people try to write Cat out of P's legacy, but she WAS LoveSexy and SOTT. I believe he wrote "Hot Thang" for her. And, I think he had a MAJOR thing for Cat, but for some reason, they never went public.

FlyOnTheWall said:

bigtimefan said:

What are you saying? You think in private Prince was transgender, homosexual, bisexual, or wore women's clothes?

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I guess it wouldn't have mattered to me, but IMO a lot of his lyrics wouldn't make the same sense.

What I'm saying is that I really don't care what Prince was doing in the privacy of his bedroom. As you said, it wouldn't have mattered to me. Personally, I LOVED his over-the-top costumes during the LoveSexy era. I especially loved his affinity for polka dots. His hair was to DIE for. His Mozart outfit was too stinking cute!! And, he and Cat were SIZZLING HOT. BTW: I will NEVER believe that they were not lovers, but that's another Oprah Winfrey show.

Men in Rock and Funk had been doing that for years. Over the top costumes and looking like ladies sometimes, LOL! I mean they did it ALOT in the late 60's and 70's.

And wearing out of the world costumes was very prevalent in the Funk Culture, which Prince was a product of.

FlyOnTheWall said:

Latin said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

YES!!!!!! Cat was THE BOMB. She and Prince were HAWT!!!! None of his subsequent dancers ever came close to Cat. A lot of people try to write Cat out of P's legacy, but she WAS LoveSexy and SOTT. I believe he wrote "Hot Thang" for her. And, I think he had a MAJOR thing for Cat, but for some reason, they never went public.

Cat, Boni Boyer & Sheila E. were awesome as part of the Lovesexy band! Full of energy & talent.

I love all of them and miss Boni bless her.

Guitarhero said: