OldFriends4Sale said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Cat Glover
People often ask me if I ever dated Prince. The answer is no. A lot of women that get with Prince mistake his friendship and his affection as them being his girlfriend.
friendship and his affection as them being his "girlfriend."
Let's put it like this: if you're his girlfriend, you'll know it. I was never his girlfriend. it was strictly professional. Although, we were both attracted to each other.

All Cat says is that they never "dated" and that she wasn't his "girlfriend." That still doesn't mean that they weren't an item. In any event, my friend, let us just agree to disagree. Okay? PEACE.

She also talked about it on her FB before, that there was nothing romantic or sexual between them.

I guess Sheila E was the more 'visible' main item, then Anna Fantastic came into the picture etc

We are just talking, no static. Peace

rob1965 said:

SoulJones said:

September 9th 1988.

Hey did anyone on here go to the Westfalenhalle show in Dortmund? The one broadcast on TV across Europe. West German venue, read somewhere it was full of dutch fans for some reason.

Yes, because P wanted an audience that 'knew how to party' because the show was about to be aired across Europe simultaneously. He had good experience with the Dutch audiences. There were no venues available in the Netherlands for that particular date. So he brought in a Dutch director to shoot the show ans an audience to match accordingly. The sales for the tickets went to the Netherlands which led to some minor issues. But that had nothing to do with P, that was just another opportunity for some people in Germany and the Netherlands to fight over totally different and older issues. Some people never learn. As it all is on tape, everyone can see that P had a good point to arrange things the way he wanted it: I was at another show in the Westfalenhalle in 1990 during the Nude Tour. Although there were -again- lots of Dutch people present, this time the majority of the audience was German. And there was a big difference in the way Dutch and German attendants reacted to his music and his calling and answering. So I must say that I fully understood P's choice from two years earlier. Although on the other hand: people in Germany can sct a lot cooler than the sometimes frantic reactions from some Dutch people. I remember almost being trampled upon during concerts in the Netherlands while in Germany the atmosphere was totally relaxed. So it has two sides. [Edited 10/9/16 3:16am]

I didn t even know that he was playing in Dortmund at the time even though I was a hardcore fan. I saw the Sign of the times Tour in Dortmund (the first concert i went to) and would have loved to see him again in Dortmund. Instead I travelled to the Lovesexy Tour in Frankfurt which was a show in stadium. Being a stadium show it was good but not as great as the show in Dortmund in a concert hall with that round stage would have been. Also travelling to Frankfurt took four times as long as Dortmund because I live quite close to Dortmund.

OldFriends4Sale said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

All Cat says is that they never "dated" and that she wasn't his "girlfriend." That still doesn't mean that they weren't an item. In any event, my friend, let us just agree to disagree. Okay? PEACE.

She also talked about it on her FB before, that there was nothing romantic or sexual between them.

I guess Sheila E was the more 'visible' main item, then Anna Fantastic came into the picture etc

We are just talking, no static. Peace

Ok...but I think perhaps Cat keeps it on the low because she doesn't want to be seen as just "one of P's girls," all of whom he was reportedly "doing" at the same time. There are lots of stories of how jealous Sheila E. was of Cat. And if you look at the band photos during that era, Cat was almost always nearest to him, and Sheila would sometimes be standing on the edge of the group or in the background. I don't think that's accidental. Just my take...

FlyOnTheWall said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

She also talked about it on her FB before, that there was nothing romantic or sexual between them.

I guess Sheila E was the more 'visible' main item, then Anna Fantastic came into the picture etc

We are just talking, no static. Peace

Ok...but I think perhaps Cat keeps it on the low because she doesn't want to be seen as just "one of P's girls," all of whom he was reportedly "doing" at the same time. There are lots of stories of how jealous Sheila E. was of Cat. And if you look at the band photos during that era, Cat was almost always nearest to him, and Sheila would sometimes be standing on the edge of the group or in the background. I don't think that's accidental. Just my take...

http://prince.org/msg/5/201789

FlyOnTheWall said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

Ok...but I think perhaps Cat keeps it on the low because she doesn't want to be seen as just "one of P's girls," all of whom he was reportedly "doing" at the same time. There are lots of stories of how jealous Sheila E. was of Cat. And if you look at the band photos during that era, Cat was almost always nearest to him, and Sheila would sometimes be standing on the edge of the group or in the background. I don't think that's accidental. Just my take...

http://prince.org/msg/5/201789

But anytime a woman is seen with Prince they are assumed to be 'one of Prince's girls' even if there is nothing going on. Cat wouldn't be able to avoid that. If there was something between them, keeping it secret wasn't going to avoid that, because people automatically assumed back then that they were having sex or something.

Yep I noticed that too, but I do believe it was her part to play the on stage lover.
Remember she and Gregory appeared on I believe Video Soul to promote the SOTT movie and Gregory was acting Morris Day-ish, and they insinuated they were lovers or the it was a mystery whether or not she and Prince were lover... it was all an act. They didn't do that so well though, but it went along with the SOTT movie theme.

Then the same thing translated over to Lovesexy, with the whole good vs evil light vs dark love vs lust, Boni Boyer singing to Cat 'Girl he's no good for you' etc etc But on the Lovesexy tour since he removed Gregory & Wally, Miko Weaver took the place of the possible lover of Cat, that Prince was competing with.

And Sheila E being very competitive, and in an actualy 'romantic' relationship with Prince, and used to being out there on the floor with Prince, we definately feeling conflicted. Especially knowing who things could be with Prince.

I agree it is not accidental, but it was planned for the energy of the show.

I do believe Prince did a lot of stuff like that to garner energy for the shows and the culture.

Not just women but with the protege bands too.

I'm glad to see Boni getting some love in here, she deserves it she had a remarkable voice!!!

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Cat IMO was his best dancer and P and her had a real chemistry dancing together on stage which i'm not sure translated into a relationship off stage. Prince's fashion at the time was a little too contrived and theatrical for me but the music was 10 out of 10. That picture ^ of him in the polka dot outfit, gloves and hat is all about him pushing the boundaries of the norm and making a statement that he can do whatever he wants. I remember all the controversy at the time when it was published. Friends of mine who were not P fans and I wondered what the hell he was doing?

Starrdust505 said:

I'm glad to see Boni getting some love in here, she deserves it she had a remarkable voice!!!

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Cat IMO was his best dancer and P and her had a real chemistry dancing together on stage which i'm not sure translated into a relationship off stage. Prince's fashion at the time was a little too contrived and theatrical for me but the music was 10 out of 10. That picture ^ of him in the polka dot outfit, gloves and hat is all about him pushing the boundaries of the norm and making a statement that he can do whatever he wants. I remember all the controversy at the time when it was published. Friends of mine who were not P fans and I wondered what the hell he was doing?

I loved to see him in the polka dot outfits. The halter was a bit much, IMHO, but hey, Prince always pushed the envelope.

FlyOnTheWall said:

Starrdust505 said:

I'm glad to see Boni getting some love in here, she deserves it she had a remarkable voice!!!

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Cat IMO was his best dancer and P and her had a real chemistry dancing together on stage which i'm not sure translated into a relationship off stage. Prince's fashion at the time was a little too contrived and theatrical for me but the music was 10 out of 10. That picture ^ of him in the polka dot outfit, gloves and hat is all about him pushing the boundaries of the norm and making a statement that he can do whatever he wants. I remember all the controversy at the time when it was published. Friends of mine who were not P fans and I wondered what the hell he was doing?

I loved to see him in the polka dot outfits. The halter was a bit much, IMHO, but hey, Prince always pushed the envelope.

He certainly did. Looking back I don't know why we were so shocked as this was nothing new but I think all that rouge make up on his face took the biscuit!

Starrdust505 said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

I loved to see him in the polka dot outfits. The halter was a bit much, IMHO, but hey, Prince always pushed the envelope.

He certainly did. Looking back I don't know why we were so shocked as this was nothing new but I think all that rouge make up on his face took the biscuit!

Love Life, L♥vesexy -- the feeling
u get when u fall in love, not with a girl or boy but with the
heavens above. L♥vesexy -- endorphin. Camille figured out
what 2 feel. Glam Slam Escape -- the Sexuality Real.
Tonight we make love with only words. Girls first. This
feeling's so good in every single way.

God is alive! Let Him touch u and He will quench
every thirst. Let him touch u and an aura of peace will adorn u.
God is alive!
Let Him touch u and your own L♥vesexy will be born.
Let Him touch u, let Him touch u, and Heaven is yours.
Welcome 2 the New Power Generation.

Put your love down
Talk 2 me lover, come and tell me what U taste
Didn't your mama tell U life is 2 good 2 waste?
Did she tell U L♥vesexy was the glam of them all?
U can hang, U can trip on it, U surely won't fall
No side effects, the feeling last 4ever
Straight up, it tastes good, it makes U feel clever
U kiss your enemies like U know U should
And then U jerk your body like a horny pony would
U jerk your body like a horny pony would
Now run and tell your mama about that!

Prince's resurrection
Prince opens his Lovesexy '88 Tour in Paris and proves he can still rock hard. But is His Purple Highness hearing the call of a higher consciousness?

BY DAVID WILD

"I DIG YOU, and you dig me," Prince told a cheering crowd of 17,000 Parisians at the Palais Omnisport Bercy toward the end of one of the extraordinary shows that opened his Lovesexy '88 Tour. "And together we'll dig him to death. Thank you, Jesus." Pointing his guitar meaningfully toward the heavens, or at least toward the painted clouds that hung overhead, Prince then ripped into "Purple Rain," offering one of his most divinely inspired solos of the evening.

As the shows went on, Prince became increasingly direct about his intentions. "The first half, I gave it to you because you were expecting it," he said during the third night in Paris. "The second half is what it's all about. It's about how we all dig each other and him."

ROLLING STONE, AUGUST 25TH, 1988

theplejades said:

rob1965 said:

SoulJones said: Yes, because P wanted an audience that 'knew how to party' because the show was about to be aired across Europe simultaneously. He had good experience with the Dutch audiences. There were no venues available in the Netherlands for that particular date. So he brought in a Dutch director to shoot the show ans an audience to match accordingly. The sales for the tickets went to the Netherlands which led to some minor issues. But that had nothing to do with P, that was just another opportunity for some people in Germany and the Netherlands to fight over totally different and older issues. Some people never learn. As it all is on tape, everyone can see that P had a good point to arrange things the way he wanted it: I was at another show in the Westfalenhalle in 1990 during the Nude Tour. Although there were -again- lots of Dutch people present, this time the majority of the audience was German. And there was a big difference in the way Dutch and German attendants reacted to his music and his calling and answering. So I must say that I fully understood P's choice from two years earlier. Although on the other hand: people in Germany can sct a lot cooler than the sometimes frantic reactions from some Dutch people. I remember almost being trampled upon during concerts in the Netherlands while in Germany the atmosphere was totally relaxed. So it has two sides. [Edited 10/9/16 3:16am]

I didn t even know that he was playing in Dortmund at the time even though I was a hardcore fan. I saw the Sign of the times Tour in Dortmund (the first concert i went to) and would have loved to see him again in Dortmund. Instead I travelled to the Lovesexy Tour in Frankfurt which was a show in stadium. Being a stadium show it was good but not as great as the show in Dortmund in a concert hall with that round stage would have been. Also travelling to Frankfurt took four times as long as Dortmund because I live quite close to Dortmund.

I've been to both Lovesexy Shows in Dortmund and yes it is true that the second one which is aired had the better audience but the first nicgt was loneger. At the time of the shows i lived in Dortmund and there were only tickets avaible for the first night but when i noticed that there will a second night i drive to the Westfalen Halle at had the luck to get a second row ticket for the second evening. Both evenings were great and i enjoy the video and think about what a luck i had

rob1965 said:

SoulJones said:

September 9th 1988.

Hey did anyone on here go to the Westfalenhalle show in Dortmund? The one broadcast on TV across Europe. West German venue, read somewhere it was full of dutch fans for some reason.

Yes, because P wanted an audience that 'knew how to party' because the show was about to be aired across Europe simultaneously. He had good experience with the Dutch audiences. There were no venues available in the Netherlands for that particular date. [Edited 10/9/16 3:16am]

There was no venue big enough to put the wole set up in, and still have some room left for a crowd. I thought that is allso the reason the three shows in Holland were in the Feijenoord stadium. Front end, but then on the longer side of the field...

LOVE this era. It's one that I unfortunately only experienced looking back on it and not while it was happening. Alphabet Street aside, I was not tuned in during this time, living in a Jr. High bubble focused on other things and acts. The album, the tour, the looks, the supporting musicians, the aftershows. . .amazing. The album is in my top 3. Wish I could go back in time and live through this era again and pay attention this time!

FlyOnTheWall said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

She also talked about it on her FB before, that there was nothing romantic or sexual between them.

I guess Sheila E was the more 'visible' main item, then Anna Fantastic came into the picture etc

We are just talking, no static. Peace

Ok...but I think perhaps Cat keeps it on the low because she doesn't want to be seen as just "one of P's girls," all of whom he was reportedly "doing" at the same time. There are lots of stories of how jealous Sheila E. was of Cat. And if you look at the band photos during that era, Cat was almost always nearest to him, and Sheila would sometimes be standing on the edge of the group or in the background. I don't think that's accidental. Just my take...

As much as this is acting, seeing this would probably be hard on any lover

FlyOnTheWall said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

This must have been one of Cat's (and Prince's) favorite parts of the show. In later years, after he was more settled, P admitted that, back in the day, he would script intimate scenes with women that he wanted. And he scripted A LOT of scenes, ENTIRE TOURS, EVEN, where he was ALL OVER Cat. And, I'm not mad at them. They were both young, hot, and gorgeous.

[Edited 10/10/16 15:36pm]

OldFriends4Sale said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

Ok...but I think perhaps Cat keeps it on the low because she doesn't want to be seen as just "one of P's girls," all of whom he was reportedly "doing" at the same time. There are lots of stories of how jealous Sheila E. was of Cat. And if you look at the band photos during that era, Cat was almost always nearest to him, and Sheila would sometimes be standing on the edge of the group or in the background. I don't think that's accidental. Just my take...

As much as this is acting, seeing this would probably be hard on any lover

This comment disappeared the first time, so I'll try again. Believe what you want, but Cat and Prince were going AT it. Alls I know is this: Cat went from meeting Prince through a mutual friend (who he was at the time dating) to dancing with him at a club...to travelling the world with him AND headlining TWO of his tours. Why is it so hard for some to believe that Cat simply PUT IT ON Prince?!? Remember, before Cat, there WERE no dancers, but P made a spot for her. Cat came in and TOOK OVER...and SHEILA. WAS. NOT. WELL.

[Edited 10/10/16 15:46pm]

OldFriends4Sale said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

As much as this is acting, seeing this would probably be hard on any lover

This comment disappeared the first time, so I'll try again. Believe what you want, but Cat and Prince were going AT it. Alls I know is this: Cat went from meeting Prince through a mutual friend (who he was at the time dating) to dancing with him at a club...to travelling the world with him AND headlining TWO of his tours. Why is it so hard for some to believe that Cat simply PUT IT ON Prince?!? Remember, before Cat, there WERE no dancers, but P made a spot for her. Cat came in and TOOK OVER...and SHEILA. WAS. NOT. WELL.

[Edited 10/10/16 15:46pm]

lol

Prince was testing the waters of a dancer from the Raspberry Beret video, to the ballet dancer from Under the Cherry Moon to having Jerome Benton Wally & Gregory as dancers for the Family then pulled them as extensions of the Revolution live after the Family break. So technically he's had dancers before and Jerome who was the valet/dancer for the Time, was fired by Prince for working with Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis, met Cat at a late 1986 Dinner party with Devin DeVasquez John L. Nelson Steve Fargnoli (I think Miles Davis & Eric Leeds were here too) and put her into Jeromes spot.

Troy Beyer (the actress/director) was dating Prince at the time and she lived in my (apartment) building. I said "Troy, Prince has called and Bowie just called. I don't know what to do." I was so confused. She said "Cat, do what your heart says." I said "Prince!"

melody maker or was it New music express said it best......"best show on earth"