It's pretty much all in the title.

While they both have some of the best songs he has ever done, something about the configurations just don't work for me.

Rave is probably a bit harder to judge, given that we don't know exactly the versions ofsongs used on any configurations. Camile, however, it seems almost certain that next-t-nothing- had actually differed from their released versions.

Have any of you listened to the various boots of these albums and felt the same?

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In recent months I compiled a Camille playlist in iTunes. I've found it to be quite a fun album to listen to. It doesn't necessarily have a story to it, but the voice alteration gives it a cohesive vibe throughout. I think it would have done quite well as a public release because it's short, focused, and the songs are well done.

It always pained me that "Strange Relationship" was never a single. I think from the Camille album, it would have been a great lead single. Same with "Shockadelica" and "If I Was Your Girlfriend", in that order. IIWYG sorta stalled as an early release from SOTT (we know Prince often had shitty picks in lead singles), but as a 3rd single (often relegated to the ballad release), it could have done better on radio. "Good Love" and "Housequake" could have served as singles as well.

Rave is a whole other monster.

The conceit of having a parallel career in film greatly skewed his album output circa 1985-1991. It either delayed material during an especially rapidly evolving time in popular music, occupied critical release spots, created nervousness amongst his management and WB people (potentially affecting the schedule and selection process of the final product), diverted attention during his most energetically creative period, etc.

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Consider how much more commercially and creatively interesting the period would have been without energies misdirected (and the attendant consequences) with the involvement in the proposed and actual film projects.

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No idea about Rave but i find Camille a solid album.

214 said:

No idea about Rave but i find Camille a solid album.

The songs are beyond amazing. But they just don't flow together for me.

bluegangsta said:

It's pretty much all in the title.

While they both have some of the best songs he has ever done, something about the configurations just don't work for me.

Rave is probably a bit harder to judge, given that we don't know exactly the versions ofsongs used on any configurations. Camile, however, it seems almost certain that next-t-nothing- had actually differed from their released versions.

Have any of you listened to the various boots of these albums and felt the same?

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It's so funny - I consider Camille really really well flowing together. The songs are all pretty upbeat so I find that I have to be in the zone but when I am it's so consistent to me. Def. a top 10 P album for me. Rave 89 I'm not sure about - I'm missing a few songs from it I think so my playlist is incomplete.

I think Camille is a stunning album. It flows perfectly for me. But it's hard to imagine what that would have meant for what was to follow, i.e. SOTT. I think we might have lost more than we would have gained by having Camille out there.

I can't judge Rave at all. My version plays like a hot mess with songs in various stages of development and uneven sound quality. I'm doubtful it would have amounted to anything like his other work of the period, but I'd really need to hear something closer to the vision he had in mind.

From the tracks that we do have, Rave would have been an extremely poor album. I think Prince was going through his own version of writers block between 88 and 90. He was churning out songs, but the melody quality was thin.

He has alway dipped back to older material, but for Rave, that dip back (the likes of Moonbeams) would have ended up the highlight. Batman was rushed, and again, relying on stonger songs he had already written, and weaker new ones. By the time he got to GB, it was nearly all earlier vault material.

Camille on the other hand is top notch. We have to remember that back in 86, it would have been very alternative. I think each track is first rate. I can get why some people might see the lack of musical diversity, but remembering that it would have been a vinyl release, with an intermission as such, both sides are well balanced.

I would love both to get released as a 'concept' series.

I think Camille would have been a wonderful fun album to release
No real religious drive, the Camille concept (someone who was a hermaphrodite) would have been interesting...

I would have prefered Rave 89 to Batman & Graffiti Bridge(even though a lot of Prince tracks were extremely post 1990 and great 81 86 outtakes) as well as the Time music

TrivialPursuit post originally posted the photos of the album artwork on the Org

Awful cover.

214 said:

Awful cover.

I'm sure Steve Parke would disagree. Besides, it's a sketch. Colored it and tweaked, it'd probably be as surreal as ATWIAD. I'm quite happy that Parke shared that with us in the past few months, among other goodies.

I think it would have been a darn sight better than the Rave that was released in 99!

It's a shame that it had to be shelved for Batman as I think judging by the tracklist if released it would have probably been one of his greatest works.

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Are these for real?!?! They're so cool! Oh my god I love these!

OldFriends4Sale said:

TrivialPursuit post originally posted the photos of the album artwork on the Org